Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Google Code In wrap up

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:41:07PM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Dave Crossland wrote: > >> Regarding a possible move from IRC to Slack, or Gitter, or something > >> else as suggested by Ignacio, I wonder that we could just upgrade > >>

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Google Code In wrap up

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:50:44PM +, D. Joe wrote: > > Our FOSS program at RIT has a Telegram bridge to its IRC channel: > > irc://chat.freenode.net/#interlock Sorry, that should be irc://chat.freenode.net/#rit-foss (and I should have sent this correction from the pr

Re: [Sugar-devel] Code In: Having trouble setting up Dev Environment

nd err on the side of more communication and detail.) -- D. Joe ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Code In: Having trouble setting up Dev Environment

ux > > Some people on IRC suggested that some Ubuntu packages may be working > incorrectly, which sounds logical as sugar-build is working perfectly in > Debian > Jessie > > > 2016-12-20 20:29 GMT-03:00 D. Joe <sugarl...@etrumeus.com>: > > > On Tue

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting error 403 while submitting PR

You most likely cloned directly from walterbender's repository, which is to say https://github.com/walterbender/musicblocks whereas the instructions at https://developer.sugarlabs.org/contributing.md.html indicate "You should first fork the repository on GitHub" It looks like you do,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] 2017 Goals for Sugar Labs

On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 10:34:44AM -0400, Mariah Noelle Villarreal wrote: > The time is better spent formulating these ideas, > documenting them and then actually doing them. Well put. Thank you. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Testing of Activities

So, is the idea here to add new git tags, for example: https://github.com/sugarlabs/write-activity/releases to keep the tags in line with the value of activity_version as changed, for instance, in this commit:

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [wiki bug] Roadmap Sugar Labs - Ambiguity detected on how to make Decisions

On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 04:04:05PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > > > > 2017-05-08 15:20 GMT-05:00 James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org>: > > > > On Mon, May 08, 2017 at 06:28:00AM -0500, Laura Vargas wrote: > > > 2017-05-07 21:59 GMT-05:00 James Cameron <[1][2]qu...@laptop.org>: > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar App Launcher

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 02:06:55PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > Also not disagreeing. I am curious as to the limitation you see in the direct > execution model and how what you are doing will improve on it. Gnome is the > desktop we get with Sugar (13.2.8) but I suspect the command line

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar App Launcher

On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 08:00:47AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > On 05/20/2017 08:32 PM, D. Joe wrote: > >On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 02:06:55PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > > > >>Also not disagreeing. I am curious as to the limitation you see in the > >>direct >

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

Open Source and Free Software are not mutually exclusive terms. Perhaps you are thinking of the distinctions between copyleft software versus permissively licensed software? For those to whom this is old news, please forgive this brief review, but it seems important at this point to get it out

Re: [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] [IAEP] MOTION: French visa for Samson Goddy to attend 10-year Anniversary Scratch Conf / 50-year Anniversary of Logo

e 1989) -- D. Joe ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Systems] [IAEP] Social Help [was Re: New Discourse version, update available]

nt. I just know that it Works For Me, that of many of the chat systems-du-jour it is one of the few that is end-to-end free software, and that it does have some current acceptance and use. -- D. Joe ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.o

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 07:25:25AM +0200, Bastien wrote: > IANAL but I seriously doubt that "porting" an idea from one language > to another language counts as a derivative work. That would be very > bad for the whole free software world. Every FLOSS clone out there > is porting ideas from a

Re: [Sugar-devel] licensing question

On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 02:27:59PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: [personal calumny and squabbling elided] > The only way Sugar users can access activities not already installed > is by ASLO (unless we have some really carefully hidden source). Open the Terminal activity if not yet installed,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch

shrug*>. This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some academic context to this discussion: https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-gardens-floss-p

Re: [Sugar-devel] New pull request reviewers; Rahul and Yash

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 08:55:12AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > Rahul and Yash, your code contributions have been consistently good for > the past month, so I've invited you to the GitHub sugarlabs organisation > so that you can review and merge pull requests.

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 02:58:15PM +, D. Joe wrote: > > > The channels also need the +n mode set, t

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

The channels also need the +n mode set, to prevent nicks from sending direct messages into the channel even when those nicks are connected to the network but are not registered nor joined to the channel. Channel modes can be set by channel operators ephemerally, but channel services can

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 07:49:22AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > #sugar and #sugar-meeting are now +cnrt. > > New users must register with freenode. > > "meeting" 'bot is absent. > > "gcibot" 'bot is absent.

[Sugar-devel] critical vs pinned repositories, was New pull request reviewers; Rahul and Yash

On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 08:55:12AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > Information below may be of help to guide you in this task. [...] I find helpful this enumeration of critical repositories. This gives me a personal TODO list to make sure I'm following more of them than I do now. In checking

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 11:45:43AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:50:41AM +0000, D. Joe wrote: > > > > I noticed in the thread about jita you mentioning the problem with > > supybot. > > > Using the +q approach removes the need for

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 02:34:31PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > > Have you been able to organise this to happen? I don't know what your > nickname in IRC is, and I don't recall who has ops. That *was* me trying to organize this to happen. If you have suggestions as to how I might more

Re: [Sugar-devel] freenode spam measures

On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 09:57:05AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 11:20:31PM +0000, D. Joe wrote: > > > > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 07:49:22AM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > > > #sugar and #sugar-meeting are now +cnrt. > > &g

Re: [Sugar-devel] Need help with setting up development environment on ubuntu

A search of Ubuntu's packages via their package web interface https://packages.ubuntu.com/intltool shows intltool seems to be a thing. You can install it, amongst other ways, via sudo apt-get install intltool I don't know if that will be sufficient, or if you'll need to add additional

[Sugar-devel] Favorites vs List in Home View, finding Terminal activity, was Re: Steps after cloning

On Fri, Mar 01, 2019 at 08:40:40PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > I agree with Ibiam. You can see what the Home view looks like by reading > through the first few sections of the documentation at > https://help.sugarlabs.org/ > > Gaurav, when Sugar activities are installed, they are in either

Re: [Sugar-devel] IRC Channel

On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 12:06:35PM +, Ahmed Khaled wrote: > Hey dudes and girls, I was wondering if there's a fixed time where you guys > are > online on the IRC channel since I've been lurking for a week now and haven't > found any activity! Can you tell us more about how you are trying to

[Sugar-devel] site-packages vs dist-packages, was Re: ... Sugar 0.114 stable

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 05:57:57PM +0530, ANIKET MATHUR wrote: > Hello everyone, > Even after installing the toolkit for python3 I was getting the error 'No > module named sugar3' on running "sugar-activity3 ." command. After exploring a > bit > I got to know that using the native method when I

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland (Tony Anderson)

On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 09:00:24AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > Agreed. I think Sugarizer has a better immediate opportunity to attract new > users than Sugar/Python. Be that as it may, it's an odd thing to mention in a thread about promoting Sugar at a Python conference. -- Joe

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Outreach Plans 2019 - PyCon Cleveland

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 03:42:52PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote: > What Sugar Labs needs to survive is users. If our count of active users > reaches zero, there will be no need for developers (or Sugar Labs). A developer must be also a user. So, it's possible to have a user base only of

[Sugar-devel] freenode has moved to Kiwi IRC, was Re: Unable to connect to IRC

In visiting the Freenode webchat link yesterday, I noticed they had changed their webchat software stack to Kiwi IRC a little more than a month ago. Seeing this thread on review, I thought it might be relevant to mention. The change is briefly discussed in this blog post:

[Sugar-devel] lack of XO security updates, was Unable to "git clone" on Fedora 18

I knew this is the sort of thing that would befall Fedora 18-based systems as soon as Fedora 18 reached the end of its supported lifetime. In that light I decided we needed to stop using XOs in the classroom. I couldn't in good conscience promote an environment in which, for instance,

Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Sugar Live Build 20191002 with Sugar 0.116 and Python 3

On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 05:34:05PM +1000, James Cameron wrote: > Announcing Sugar Live Build with Sugar 0.116 and the Fructose activity > set, ported to Python 3. Wonderful news. I've booted it in kvm on Ubuntu 16.04 and Ubuntu 18.04 machines successfully yesterday and have begun to explore

[Sugar-devel] Using IRC, was Participating in Google Code-In

get started using IRC without registering, which made it *much* easier to learn to use, but attacks have necessitated registration to gain full use. -- D. Joe aka "dzho" ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding IRC channels

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 09:20:07AM -0800, Alex Perez wrote: > Garvit, > > There are hundreds of free IRC clients out there, for every operating system > under the sun. mIRC is not necessarily the best option. Here's one I know is > pretty decent: https://www.adiirc.com/ > > > > Garvit

Re: [Sugar-devel] Contributing to Open Source

I'm wondering if you can please tell us something that might be very helpful: How did you find the contact information for the Sugarlabs mailing list without finding any of the getting started documentation? Did someone give you the mailing list address, and if so, in what context was that

Re: [Sugar-devel] Guide for new developers.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 11:57:21PM +0530, Ashish Dwivedi wrote: > Can someone tell me from where to get started? https://sugarlabs.org "Join Us" has developer information links. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

[Sugar-devel] Sugar in Fedora 32? was Fwd: [Bug 1737929] sugar depends on Python 2

On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 04:02:41PM -0800, Alex Perez wrote: > Right, and the goal for Fedora 32 is to eliminate all of those activities. > They > either get patched/ported, or dropped as a packaged activity within Fedora, As I read this for where things stand as of several hours ago:

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

Please consider also using the freenode Matrix bridge to the IRC channels, which gives a lot of the advantages people seek from the locked-in, single-vendor, centralized, proprietary services. Mozilla has very recently gone through the process of re-evaluating their needs in this regard and

Re: [Sugar-devel] Proposal to move communication to other platform

On Thu, Mar 05, 2020 at 02:51:09AM +0530, Sumit Srivastava wrote: > About three years down the line, here's what I learnt: > > 1. Installed two IRC clients for mobile access: Riot.im and IRCCloud Just a point of clarification: Riot.im is a matrix client, not an IRC client. The team leading

Re: [Sugar-devel] getting the Sugar Toolkit working with python 3

OK, in the face of my unease with seeing someone doing that (modifying files in directories under package-management control) anywhere but in an isolated dev environment (container or chroot), I think I've finally grasped a second dimension to the Python path situation, particularly as it

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar for Ubuntu 20.04

Sorry, only getting around to seeing this now. Will put on my to-do list setting up a VM as outlined below and doing some testing. On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 02:57:20PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > I've packaged Sugar and several activities for Ubuntu 20.04. Is > anyone interested in joining

Re: [Sugar-devel] Getting started with my first contribution

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:06:07PM +0530, Jaikishan Brijwani wrote: > Hello there, I am Jaikishan Brijwani currently an undergrad student at Manipal > University in India, majoring in Computer & Communication Engineering. > I want to start contributing to the Music Blocks project. Can someone help

Re: [Sugar-devel] Ubuntu 20.10 test report

On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 10:32:05AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > The new gdm3 "one eyed frowning blob monster" is a bit frightening. > Very suitable for a pandemic. ;-) > > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/blob/master/src/images/gdm3-ubuntu-20.10.png Well, shucks. Now I'll never be able

Re: [Sugar-devel] Maintaining the sugar-live-build

On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 12:27:56AM +0200, Martin Guy wrote: > So, as I'm a retired Unix wizard with spare time, I'm looking at the > idea of offering to maintain SLB. > > The directions I'd like to go in are: > - to modify SLB to update metacity to a working version (3.34 instead > of Debian

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Sponsor

them somewhere (eg, accounts on sugarlabs machines to which James refers) but it's not clear to me why you'd drill all the way down to asking after that. -- D. Joe ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar Sponsor

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 08:33:18AM +1100, James Cameron wrote: > Ian hasn't made any commits to activities yet, so I > didn't think it likely he wanted a shell account.) This goes to my main point: I suspect a) the requirements Ian faces might be satisfied by making commits and successful