Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread Caroline Meeks
I am working with a school in NH where we can get Sugar to boot and run on
some of their machines but we can't get it to connect to the internet
because the school uses a proxy server.  I am going to a NH LUG meeting
tonight to try to recruit a local linux person to help support them.

Is this likely to be a pointer to how to fix their internet connection
problems?

Thanks,
Caroline

On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.net wrote:

 This would make a nice feature for 0.90. We should use the same gconf
 settings as GNOME:

 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-vfs/tree/schemas/system_http_proxy.schemas.in

 Regards,

 Tomeu

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 #841: SoaS should support using a proxy server

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Reporter:  jdsimmons  |  Owner:  tomeu
Type:  enhancement| Status:  new
Priority:  Unspecified by Maintainer  |  Milestone:
 Unspecified by Release Team
   Component:  sugar  |Version:  Unspecified
Severity:  Unspecified|   Keywords:  proxy server
 Distribution:  SoaS   |   Status_field:  Unconfirmed

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 Changes (by sdz):

  * owner:  sdz = tomeu
  * component:  SoaS = sugar


 Comment:

  Assigning this over to sugar, as I guess it could be handled as part of a
  control panel screen or so.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi Caroline,

You might want to try setting the gnome proxy server settings as I believe
(this theory is untested) xulrunner and telepathy should recognise those
settings. you can get that by running gnome-network-properties which is part
of the control-center package (no idea off hand if that is in SoaS by
default), but you can also set it using the command line but I'm not sure
how off hand.

Peter

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:

 I am working with a school in NH where we can get Sugar to boot and run on
 some of their machines but we can't get it to connect to the internet
 because the school uses a proxy server.  I am going to a NH LUG meeting
 tonight to try to recruit a local linux person to help support them.

 Is this likely to be a pointer to how to fix their internet connection
 problems?

 Thanks,
 Caroline

 On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@tomeuvizoso.netwrote:

 This would make a nice feature for 0.90. We should use the same gconf
 settings as GNOME:

 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-vfs/tree/schemas/system_http_proxy.schemas.in

 Regards,

 Tomeu

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 Date: Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 20:07
 Subject: Re: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server
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 #841: SoaS should support using a proxy server

 --+-
Reporter:  jdsimmons  |  Owner:  tomeu
Type:  enhancement| Status:  new
Priority:  Unspecified by Maintainer  |  Milestone:
 Unspecified by Release Team
   Component:  sugar  |Version:  Unspecified
Severity:  Unspecified|   Keywords:  proxy server
 Distribution:  SoaS   |   Status_field:  Unconfirmed

 --+-
 Changes (by sdz):

  * owner:  sdz = tomeu
  * component:  SoaS = sugar


 Comment:

  Assigning this over to sugar, as I guess it could be handled as part of a
  control panel screen or so.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:59:48PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
 You might want to try setting the gnome proxy server settings as I
 believe (this theory is untested) xulrunner and telepathy should
 recognise those settings. you can get that by running
 gnome-network-properties which is part of the control-center package
 (no idea off hand if that is in SoaS by default), [...]

Tested on OLPC XO-1.5 builds ... you can run gnome-network-properties or
gnome-control-panel from Terminal, change the proxy server settings, and
then run Browse and the proxy server is used.

gnome-network-properties appears as a window over the Terminal and
includes a close button, and Sugar provides a border control to close or
stop.

gnome-control-panel doesn't include an explicit graphical close or stop
feature; it relies on the window manager, and Sugar doesn't provide that
action visually.  So to escape from it use Control/Q in the window, or
Control/C on the Terminal.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 2:32 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 09:59:48PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
  You might want to try setting the gnome proxy server settings as I
  believe (this theory is untested) xulrunner and telepathy should
  recognise those settings. you can get that by running
  gnome-network-properties which is part of the control-center package
  (no idea off hand if that is in SoaS by default), [...]

 Tested on OLPC XO-1.5 builds ... you can run gnome-network-properties or
 gnome-control-panel from Terminal, change the proxy server settings, and
 then run Browse and the proxy server is used.

 gnome-network-properties appears as a window over the Terminal and
 includes a close button, and Sugar provides a border control to close or
 stop.

 gnome-control-panel doesn't include an explicit graphical close or stop
 feature; it relies on the window manager, and Sugar doesn't provide that
 action visually.  So to escape from it use Control/Q in the window, or
 Control/C on the Terminal.


I presume this just sets gconf keys so it might be useful functionality to
add to the sugar network control panel so it can be set easier.

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread James Cameron
On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:43:55AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
 I presume this just sets gconf keys so it might be useful
 functionality to addto the sugar network control panel so it can be
 set easier.

Yes, perhaps.  There are many keys.  gnome-network-properties controls
quite a few.  The one that was changed by my test was

/system/http_proxy/host

Others at the same level include:

authentication_password
authentication_user
ignore_hosts
port
use_authentication
use_http_proxy
use_same_proxy

There's also a collection at /system/proxy, including:

autoconfig_url
ftp_host
ftp_port
mode
secure_host
secure_port
socks_host
socks_port

Network Proxy Preferences on F11 also provides multiple location
choices.

I imagine large scale deployments of Sugar would use the gconf keys
directly rather than expose all this complexity unnecessarily.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: #841 UNSP: SoaS should support using a proxy server

2010-02-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 3:04 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 09, 2010 at 02:43:55AM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
  I presume this just sets gconf keys so it might be useful
  functionality to addto the sugar network control panel so it can be
  set easier.

 Yes, perhaps.  There are many keys.  gnome-network-properties controls
 quite a few.  The one that was changed by my test was

 /system/http_proxy/host

 Others at the same level include:

 authentication_password
 authentication_user
 ignore_hosts
 port
 use_authentication
 use_http_proxy
 use_same_proxy

 There's also a collection at /system/proxy, including:

 autoconfig_url
 ftp_host
 ftp_port
 mode
 secure_host
 secure_port
 socks_host
 socks_port

 Network Proxy Preferences on F11 also provides multiple location
 choices.

 I imagine large scale deployments of Sugar would use the gconf keys
 directly rather than expose all this complexity unnecessarily.


Agreed, we can/should also document how to do this for deployements within
the kickstart file.

Peter
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