Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Can we put links to the upstream bugs/patches (not to the rpms)
somewhere? In a README file or something. Right now if you want to
build Write on anything else than Fedora 18, you have no idea how to
do it.

Also a gtk2 branch would be nice to have since the gtk3 version will
not work on Ubuntu, for example. I would switch sugar-build to it
until the patches are upstreamed and shipped in distros.

(For what it's worth I think this is the only case where keeping gtk2
on master and making a gtk3 branch would have made more sense, but I
suppose it's too late for that)

On 21 October 2012 19:49, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
 Part of the changes needed by touch interaction has not be reviewed yet
 upstream,
 and will not be ready for the next release. The plan is use a custom rpm
 now,
 and try to have the needed changes included asap to use a standard fedora
 rpm.

 Gonzalo

 On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?


 On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
 If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
 with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
 and you download it here
 http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046

 Gonzalo

 On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori
 coltivarefi...@connettivo.net wrote:

 Hello to everybody!


 Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've been
 compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after some
 issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).

 After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write activity
 and I get in the Write log an error

 Could not find any typelib for abi

 I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
 (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.

 What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?

 TIA

 Ernesto

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
The problem is not Write, but Abiword, because we need a few patches under
review right now.
The gtk2 branch is origin/sugar-0.94 in Write and is available.

Gonzalo

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can we put links to the upstream bugs/patches (not to the rpms)
 somewhere? In a README file or something. Right now if you want to
 build Write on anything else than Fedora 18, you have no idea how to
 do it.

 Also a gtk2 branch would be nice to have since the gtk3 version will
 not work on Ubuntu, for example. I would switch sugar-build to it
 until the patches are upstreamed and shipped in distros.

 (For what it's worth I think this is the only case where keeping gtk2
 on master and making a gtk3 branch would have made more sense, but I
 suppose it's too late for that)

 On 21 October 2012 19:49, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
  Part of the changes needed by touch interaction has not be reviewed yet
  upstream,
  and will not be ready for the next release. The plan is use a custom rpm
  now,
  and try to have the needed changes included asap to use a standard fedora
  rpm.
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?
 
 
  On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 
  Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
  If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
  with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
  and you download it here
  http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori
  coltivarefi...@connettivo.net wrote:
 
  Hello to everybody!
 
 
  Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've
 been
  compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after
 some
  issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).
 
  After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write
 activity
  and I get in the Write log an error
 
  Could not find any typelib for abi
 
  I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
  (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.
 
  What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?
 
  TIA
 
  Ernesto
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Hi,

I know it's not Write. But Write has an undocumented dependency on a
certain Abiword version plus not yet up streamed patches.That's very
developer unfriendly. How am I'm supposed to pull the sources and get it to
work? That normally doesn't require subscribing to a mailing list and
asking.

Activities has an implicit dependency on the sugar platform. But we don't
have any good definition of what that platform is. I'm going to write  a
separate proposal about that, but, until the problem is solved, I think
documenting the Abiword dependency in Write is much better than nothing.

About the branch. According to

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Porting#GIT_conventions

We've agreed that the GTK3 version should be in the master branch on
gitorious.sugarlabs.org. The GTK2 version should be in a branch called
gtk2.


Is that changed? Otherwise can we please keep as much consistency as
possible? It's a bit of pain to find the branch you want for activities
right now.

Thanks.

On Wednesday, 31 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 The problem is not Write, but Abiword, because we need a few patches under
 review right now.
 The gtk2 branch is origin/sugar-0.94 in Write and is available.

 Gonzalo

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
 dwnarv...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dwnarv...@gmail.com');
  wrote:

 Can we put links to the upstream bugs/patches (not to the rpms)
 somewhere? In a README file or something. Right now if you want to
 build Write on anything else than Fedora 18, you have no idea how to
 do it.

 Also a gtk2 branch would be nice to have since the gtk3 version will
 not work on Ubuntu, for example. I would switch sugar-build to it
 until the patches are upstreamed and shipped in distros.

 (For what it's worth I think this is the only case where keeping gtk2
 on master and making a gtk3 branch would have made more sense, but I
 suppose it's too late for that)

 On 21 October 2012 19:49, Gonzalo Odiard 
 gonz...@laptop.orgjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'gonz...@laptop.org');
 wrote:
  Part of the changes needed by touch interaction has not be reviewed yet
  upstream,
  and will not be ready for the next release. The plan is use a custom rpm
  now,
  and try to have the needed changes included asap to use a standard
 fedora
  rpm.
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez 
  dwnarv...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'dwnarv...@gmail.com');
 wrote:
 
  Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?
 
 
  On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 
  Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
  If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
  with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
  and you download it here
  http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori
  coltivarefi...@connettivo.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'coltivarefi...@connettivo.net'); wrote:
 
  Hello to everybody!
 
 
  Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've
 been
  compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after
 some
  issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).
 
  After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write
 activity
  and I get in the Write log an error
 
  Could not find any typelib for abi
 
  I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
  (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.
 
  What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?
 
  TIA
 
  Ernesto
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 I know it's not Write. But Write has an undocumented dependency on a
 certain Abiword version plus not yet up streamed patches.That's very
 developer unfriendly. How am I'm supposed to pull the sources and get it to
 work? That normally doesn't require subscribing to a mailing list and
 asking.

 Activities has an implicit dependency on the sugar platform. But we don't
 have any good definition of what that platform is. I'm going to write  a
 separate proposal about that, but, until the problem is solved, I think
 documenting the Abiword dependency in Write is much better than nothing.


I agree. Just we are doing changes _right_now_ and with a lot of work to do
in a fixed schedule.
If anybody is interested in help solving bugs, I will be the first in help
him,
but sadly, nobody asked...



 About the branch. According to

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Porting#GIT_conventions

 We've agreed that the GTK3 version should be in the master branch on
 gitorious.sugarlabs.org. The GTK2 version should be in a branch called
 gtk2.


 Is that changed? Otherwise can we please keep as much consistency as
 possible? It's a bit of pain to find the branch you want for activities
 right now.


I don't know why Walter added that, when we have a previously agreed
convention in the same page:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Porting#Preparation

You know standards are so good, than everybody want own one :)

Gonzalo




 Thanks.

 On Wednesday, 31 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 The problem is not Write, but Abiword, because we need a few patches
 under review right now.
 The gtk2 branch is origin/sugar-0.94 in Write and is available.

 Gonzalo

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.comwrote:

 Can we put links to the upstream bugs/patches (not to the rpms)
 somewhere? In a README file or something. Right now if you want to
 build Write on anything else than Fedora 18, you have no idea how to
 do it.

 Also a gtk2 branch would be nice to have since the gtk3 version will
 not work on Ubuntu, for example. I would switch sugar-build to it
 until the patches are upstreamed and shipped in distros.

 (For what it's worth I think this is the only case where keeping gtk2
 on master and making a gtk3 branch would have made more sense, but I
 suppose it's too late for that)

 On 21 October 2012 19:49, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
  Part of the changes needed by touch interaction has not be reviewed yet
  upstream,
  and will not be ready for the next release. The plan is use a custom
 rpm
  now,
  and try to have the needed changes included asap to use a standard
 fedora
  rpm.
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?
 
 
  On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 
  Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
  If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
  with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched
 version
  and you download it here
  http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046
 
  Gonzalo
 
  On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori
  coltivarefi...@connettivo.net wrote:
 
  Hello to everybody!
 
 
  Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've
 been
  compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after
 some
  issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).
 
  After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write
 activity
  and I get in the Write log an error
 
  Could not find any typelib for abi
 
  I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
  (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.
 
  What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?
 
  TIA
 
  Ernesto
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Narvaez
On 31 October 2012 15:10, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:


 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 I know it's not Write. But Write has an undocumented dependency on a
 certain Abiword version plus not yet up streamed patches.That's very
 developer unfriendly. How am I'm supposed to pull the sources and get it to
 work? That normally doesn't require subscribing to a mailing list and
 asking.

 Activities has an implicit dependency on the sugar platform. But we don't
 have any good definition of what that platform is. I'm going to write  a
 separate proposal about that, but, until the problem is solved, I think
 documenting the Abiword dependency in Write is much better than nothing.


 I agree. Just we are doing changes _right_now_ and with a lot of work to do
 in a fixed schedule.
 If anybody is interested in help solving bugs, I will be the first in help
 him,
 but sadly, nobody asked...

I know you guys are busy and I don't want to keep wasting your time
(in this discussion too!). Though let me just suggest that putting
links to the upstream bugs in a text file wouldn't take much time.
Using a separate branch/repo until the dependencies went upstream,
would have taken even less time.

The more people can easily build sugar and activities without pain,
the more help we will get, imho.

 About the branch. According to

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Porting#GIT_conventions

 We've agreed that the GTK3 version should be in the master branch on
 gitorious.sugarlabs.org. The GTK2 version should be in a branch called
 gtk2.


 Is that changed? Otherwise can we please keep as much consistency as
 possible? It's a bit of pain to find the branch you want for activities
 right now.



 I don't know why Walter added that, when we have a previously agreed
 convention in the same page:

 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Features/GTK3/Porting#Preparation

 You know standards are so good, than everybody want own one :)

Haha, please let's pick a standard, it doesn't really matter which.
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Drake
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:20 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 I know you guys are busy and I don't want to keep wasting your time
 (in this discussion too!). Though let me just suggest that putting
 links to the upstream bugs in a text file wouldn't take much time.
 Using a separate branch/repo until the dependencies went upstream,
 would have taken even less time.

Probably the less painful approach both for us(abiword packagers) and
you(someone interested in the patches) would just be to grab them from
the SRPM which is published at http://rpmdropbox.laptop.org/f18/

Sorry that its not ideal; the situation will resolve itself soon.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-22 Thread Coltivare Fiori
On 22/10/2012 02:31, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Just for the record, on my i386, my rpmbuild --rebuild
 abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.src.rpm failed telling me
 ./.libs/libabiword-2.9.so http://libabiword-2.9.so: undefined
 reference to '__atomic_fetch_add_4'.
 
 I didn't expect my compilation to go *that* far anyway, so I'm very
 happy :-)) You Sugar developers compile on the OLPC itself, don't you?
 
 
 We use fedora infrastructure to compile the rpms.
 

I guess that Fedora Infrastructure is something like Debian
Unstable, so you mean that you compile against the latest packages.

I guess also that I can rebuild from the same sources the binaries made
for ARM architecture for my i386, and if the Sugar Developers don't
compile on the OLPC themselves, I guess that a number of them may be
cross-compiling on i686 machines.

Now, I guess that my next step would be changing the repositories
feeding my copy of Fedora 17, so to upgrade some packages to their
Fedora Infrastructure version, and then attempt rebuilding again...

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Daniel Narvaez
Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?

On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
 If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
 with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
 and you download it here
 http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046

 Gonzalo

 On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori 
 coltivarefi...@connettivo.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'coltivarefi...@connettivo.net'); wrote:

 Hello to everybody!


 Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've been
 compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after some
 issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).

 After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write activity
 and I get in the Write log an error

 Could not find any typelib for abi

 I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
 (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.

 What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?

 TIA

 Ernesto

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Chris Leonard
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?

Gonzalo (and others) have been working with the upstream, I can't say
for sure about any specific patch.

AbiWord and Sugar have a long and productive history together (their
core devs created the Write activity after all) and we host their
L10n.

AbiWord is in the midst of releasing a 2.9.4 dev release leading up to
a major 3.0 release, so response time may be a little slower than
usual.  I'm in the process of  landing a bunch of updated L10n for
them myself.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Part of the changes needed by touch interaction has not be reviewed yet
upstream,
and will not be ready for the next release. The plan is use a custom rpm
now,
and try to have the needed changes included asap to use a standard fedora
rpm.

Gonzalo

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 6:50 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote:

 Has the patch been submitted upstream yet?


 On Sunday, 21 October 2012, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:

 Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
 If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
 with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
 and you download it here
 http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046

 Gonzalo

  On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori 
 coltivarefi...@connettivo.net wrote:

 Hello to everybody!


 Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've been
 compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after some
 issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).

 After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write activity
 and I get in the Write log an error

 Could not find any typelib for abi

 I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
 (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.

 What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?

 TIA

 Ernesto

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Coltivare Fiori
 On 21/10/2012 04:53, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
 If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
 with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
 and you download it
 here http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046
 
 Gonzalo

Yes, Write activity is version 80.

I suppose that

abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm

is compiled for an ARM processor, so would it make sense for me to
compile abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.src.rpm ? Right now I'm
trying to go that way.

Thank you

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Coltivare Fiori
On 21/10/2012 21:04, Coltivare Fiori wrote:
  On 21/10/2012 04:53, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:
 Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
 If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
 with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
 and you download it
 here http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046

 Gonzalo
 
 Yes, Write activity is version 80.
 
 I suppose that
 
   abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm
 
 is compiled for an ARM processor, so would it make sense for me to
 compile abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.src.rpm ? Right now I'm
 trying to go that way.

Just for the record, on my i386, my rpmbuild --rebuild
abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.src.rpm failed telling me
./.libs/libabiword-2.9.so: undefined reference to '__atomic_fetch_add_4'.

I didn't expect my compilation to go *that* far anyway, so I'm very
happy :-)) You Sugar developers compile on the OLPC itself, don't you?

Ernesto

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-21 Thread Gonzalo Odiard

 Just for the record, on my i386, my rpmbuild --rebuild
 abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.src.rpm failed telling me
 ./.libs/libabiword-2.9.so: undefined reference to
 '__atomic_fetch_add_4'.

 I didn't expect my compilation to go *that* far anyway, so I'm very
 happy :-)) You Sugar developers compile on the OLPC itself, don't you?


We use fedora infrastructure to compile the rpms.

Gonzalo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Write bundled with Sugar 0.97.8 fails to start and tells Could not find any typelib for abi

2012-10-20 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Can you check the version of the Write activity you are using?
If the version is = 80, is a gtk3 version, and only will work
with the last abiword version, in fact, we are using a patched version
and you download it here
http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=1205046

Gonzalo

On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Coltivare Fiori 
coltivarefi...@connettivo.net wrote:

 Hello to everybody!


 Attempting to understand spellchecking in the Write Activity, I've been
 compiling Sugar 0.97.8 on a standard Fedora 17 installation (after some
 issues with the proposed updates and reverting to a clean install).

 After launching Sugar with make run, I cannot start the Write activity
 and I get in the Write log an error

 Could not find any typelib for abi

 I have been installing, besides pyabiwor, pyabiword-devel
 (0.8.0-8.fc17.i686) but to no avail.

 What am I missing? Shall I recompile Sugar?

 TIA

 Ernesto

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