Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Edward Cherlin wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 2:15 AM, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Definitely a problem. We are thinking about having a landing page similar to the one in http://www.eclipse.org/ that hopefully will give a way for everybody to find how to better interact with us

Re: [sugar] Installing sugar on Debian lenny

2008-11-25 Thread Marco Pesenti Gritti
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Sascha Silbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Not sure if this is the correct list but I couldn't find a better match. I'm currently trying to install sugar (Sucrose) on Debian lenny (fresh install on a laptop) using sugar-jhbuild (the official packages are

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it when they subscribe to the mailing list - and find it on the wiki pages for example 'Getting

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Luke Faraone
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it when they

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Simon Schampijer
Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to know what to put as a tag, even if the tag makes sense? They read it

Re: [sugar] [IAEP] list of complaints from sugarcamp community building talk

2008-11-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 15:58, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luke Faraone wrote: On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 08:48, Simon Schampijer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carol Farlow Lerche wrote: Please DON'T introduce more sugarisms like BEET, especially for novices. How are they supposed to

[sugar] Confusing information about Design

2008-11-25 Thread Eduardo Silva
Hi Folks, I was looking for information about Desing in SugarLabs and that page recommend to the visitor to go to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs and that's confusing, also some screenshots are very old and are not according to the current design. I would suggest to modify links and

Re: [sugar] Confusing information about Design

2008-11-25 Thread Morgan Collett
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 16:41, Eduardo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, I was looking for information about Desing in SugarLabs and that page recommend to the visitor to go to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Designs and that's confusing, also some screenshots are very old and are not

[sugar] Sugar Digest 2008-11-25

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
=== Sugar Digest === 1. Sugar Camp Digest: First, I would like to thank Bernie Innocenti for organizing a great week. He was tireless in his efforts to find us meeting rooms, maintain the schedule, and help keep things together when tempers flared—as they will when people are passionate about

Re: [sugar] Fwd: Web site content

2008-11-25 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 7:00 AM, Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Christian Marc Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:12 AM Subject: Web site content To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Walter Bender [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all,

Re: [sugar] Python Zip Library

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
Hi Nolan, how is work going? Managed to get that issue solved with Emiliano's hint? Regards, Tomeu On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Emiliano Pastorino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe this helps: http://www.python.org/doc/2.5/tut/node13.html#SECTION001340 It's a multi

Re: [sugar] AbiWord 2.6.5 pushed, please test!

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Smith
Hi Marc, Can you make a .xo file that people can download and install via the browser on the XO? If you can post that, I think I can get a few Arabic speakers with Arabic XOs to try it out. Thanks, Greg S Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:14:44 +0100 From: J.M. Maurer [EMAIL

Re: [sugar] Finding cursors. Ripples in a puddle?

2008-11-25 Thread Erik Garrison
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:27:26PM -0500, Ken Ritchie wrote: Does anyone else recall recurring debates about cursor size and the effect on one's ability to visually discover the location of a cursor? Yes, there are tradeoffs between simply making cursors larger (easier to discover location)

Re: [sugar] Comments on gregdek's blog

2008-11-25 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At http://gregdek.livejournal.com/39468.html you wrote about XoIRC not having highlight notifications. That landed recently in Sugar git master and XoIRC, so if you run the crack-of-the-day or wait for a release you

Re: [sugar] Finding cursors. Ripples in a puddle?

2008-11-25 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 11:47 PM, Erik Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 08:27:26PM -0500, Ken Ritchie wrote: Does anyone else recall recurring debates about cursor size and the effect on one's ability to visually discover the location of a cursor? Yes, there are

[sugar] Fwd: Finding cursors. Ripples in a puddle?

2008-11-25 Thread Ken Ritchie
Oops! I forgot to use 'reply all' in my response to Bert... Cheers, -KR ;-) Begin forwarded message: From: Bert Freudenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 25, 2008 8:46:39 EST To: Ken Ritchie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sugar] Finding cursors. Ripples in a puddle? (Did you

Re: [sugar] Python Zip Library

2008-11-25 Thread Nolan Hughes
Tomeu, I think we're doing okay with the zipping. It turns out, the problem had to do with the UTF-8 vs UTF-16 file name encoding we passed to the zip library function. After lots of debugging we discovered that error and since then everything has been moving along! We're now playing with

Re: [sugar] AbiWord 2.6.5 pushed, please test!

2008-11-25 Thread J.M. Maurer
Hi Greg, Can you make a .xo file that people can download and install via the browser on the XO? You don't need an .xo update for this (the current Write version will work just fine), but an libabiword RPM update. I'm not sure how people with an XO would retrieve this, as I was out of the

Re: [sugar] Installing sugar on Debian lenny

2008-11-25 Thread David Farning
I am adding debian-olpc-devel to this thread. They will most likely have the most experience with debian specific issues. david On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Marco Pesenti Gritti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:27 AM, Sascha Silbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Not

Re: [sugar] Activity updates in joyride (was Re: TurtleArt-18)

2008-11-25 Thread Gary C Martin
On 24 Nov 2008, at 13:45, Walter Bender wrote: I did update the link in w.l.o/go/Activities/All but I actually was hoping for some testing on this rather major intervention before it became the defacto version for G1G1.2. I don't know the wiki magic regarding controlling which version is

Re: [sugar] Activity updates in joyride (was Re: TurtleArt-18)

2008-11-25 Thread Walter Bender
Yeah. I am not sure why rendering and caching SVG is so slow. Anyone out there have any tips on how to speed it up? -walter On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Nov 2008, at 13:45, Walter Bender wrote: I did update the link in w.l.o/go/Activities/All

Re: [sugar] Installing sugar on Debian lenny

2008-11-25 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 06:47:42AM -0500, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote: Boostrap is a jhbuild command which we don't usually use for sugar. Can you try to do a clean build without it? That did the trick, thank you very much! For the record: I removed the install and source directories and run

Re: [sugar] Comments on gregdek's blog

2008-11-25 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
On Tue, 25 Nov 2008, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Greg Dekoenigsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At http://gregdek.livejournal.com/39468.html you wrote about XoIRC not having highlight notifications. That landed recently in Sugar git master and XoIRC, so if you run the

[sugar] Deployment Team Meeting Reminder (2008-11-26 14:00 UTC)

2008-11-25 Thread Sebastian Silva
Hello We will be having our Deployment team meeting this wednesday (today) at 14:00 UTC (irc.freenode.net - channel: #sugar-meeting ) Here is the proposed agenda. http://sugarlabs.org/go/DeploymentTeam/Meetings#2008-11-19_meeting Everyone is invited to come ;). See you there. -- Sebastian