Re: New California DST

2001-03-27 Thread Cary Chleborad
Politicians are idiots! How absurd for them to think that because the numbers on the clock read differently, at the same (well approx.) solar angle, that the laws of physics will change for them and somehow the people will magically use less power While they're on a roll they should work

Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread harriet
Dear All, Can anyone clarify American and European time zones for me? I am trying to write instructions for setting up a dial which can be used in any location. The NASS dialist's companion gives the meridians for US time zones as: Atlantic 60° W Eastern 75° W Central 90°W

Re: New California DST

2001-03-27 Thread Fernando Cabral
Cary Chleborad wrote: Politicians are idiots! How absurd for them to think that because the numbers on the clock read differently, at the same (well approx.) solar angle, that the laws of physics will change for them and somehow the people will magically use less power I can't

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Richard Langley
The time zone boundaries in North America are quite irregular. Have a look at http://www.nrc.ca/inms/time/tze.html for the current Canadian time zone maps. -- Richard Langley Professor of Geodesy and Precision Navigation On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, harriet wrote: Dear All, Can anyone clarify

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread J.Tallman
Hello Harriet, The reference meridian is 75W for EST, and here in Cincinnati (approx 84W30) we are about 38 minutes behind the clock for local noon. At certain times of the year the difference between unadjusted dial time and watch time can be almost an hour! The official time zone lines weave

DST emotions

2001-03-27 Thread J.Tallman
Hi Fernando (and All), This time of year, when DST arrives,I always harken back to my design school days. We always seemed to have way too much work to do for the time alotted, time consuming work such as full color renderings (artwork) and product prototype models, and we wound up having

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread William P Thayer
Probably not. An indication of the historical complexity of US time zones is that bedside companion of all serious astrologers, a set of 3 books by Doris Chase Doane: Time Changes in the US Time Changes in Canada and Mexico Time Changes in the World of which the first is by far the

date of eclipse

2001-03-27 Thread John Schilke
Hello! A few days ago I sent a brief story about watching an eclipse with school children. If anyone is interested, it was on 1977 October 12. I checked my diaries. John

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Gordon Uber
Your U.S. Time Zone designations are correct, but the boundaries are determined politically, not strictly by latitude, and are subject to change. For example, time in Indiana is determined by county, and a redetermination was recently considered. However, I would think (probably too

RE: New California DST

2001-03-27 Thread Fritz Stumpges
Hi All, It seems that some states do not need Daylight Savings Time as much as some of us. This is because of their natural location in the western portion of their time zone. Arizona is in natural DST all of the year. Take Phoenix, Longitude 112deg-03min W; it is less than 1/2 degree away

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread J.Tallman
Hi Gordon (and All), I was not aware that Indiana determined time by county, and we have lots of guys from Indiana who work here at FX. They did not even know that! This discussion leads me to the next logical question for a diallist trying to design a compensated sundial for someone far away

Time at remote locations

2001-03-27 Thread J.Tallman
Hello again, I just did some checking... If you go to mapblast.com and enter the address of the place, it returns a map. Just above the map, near the global coordinates of the place,there is a small link where you can find out the weathernear that place...and along with that info it

RE: trivial pursuit

2001-03-27 Thread Roger Bailey
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Evans By the way, does anyone else still use a pocket calculator for sundial calculations? Hi Frank and all, Programmable calculators got me started in the design of sundials. Twenty years ago I wrote

Re: DST emotions

2001-03-27 Thread Sarah Edmondson-Jones
Hello All, How about following nature and just changing the hours we conduct our business in, instead of the clocks? Would people be more upset by the idea of having lunch at 10:00, than having a two hour time shift and lunching at midday? best wishes, Sarah

Re: DST emotions

2001-03-27 Thread Fernando Cabral
Sarah Edmondson-Jones wrote: How about following nature and just changing the hours we conduct our business in, instead of the clocks? Would people be more upset by the idea of having lunch at 10:00, than having a two hour time shift and lunching at midday? As a boy I used to live in a

Re: trivial pursuit

2001-03-27 Thread Frank Evans
John Schilke wrote Dear Frank (and all), You'll be amused to know that I use an astrolabe, a hand calculator (Casio), AND a slide rule to do the calculations. Much easier than programming, I think, but then I'm ancient, according to my children! Hello John (and all) Also it's comforting to know

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Robert Terwilliger
Harriet James wrote: The NASS dialist's companion gives the meridians for US time zones as: Atlantic 60° W Eastern 75° W Central 90°W Mountain 105° W Pacific 120°W Do all Americans adhere to these time zones, or are some like the French who like to be one

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Robert Terwilliger
Harriet James wrote: The NASS dialist's companion gives the meridians for US time zones as: Atlantic 60° W Eastern 75° W Central 90°W Mountain 105° W Pacific 120°W Do all Americans adhere to these time zones, or are some like the French who like to be one

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Gordon Uber
shortly after the French Revolution. If we wish a zoneless time then let's continue to use UTC, successor to GMT, with its bases 24 and 60. These have been around a lot longer than the Swatch. Gordon At 11:58 PM 3/28/01 +0100, you wrote: Hi All I just wondered what members in the group

archive

2001-03-27 Thread John Schilke
Hello! Does the List have an archive? I lost the note I sent recently by pressing the wrong button, and I'd like to retrieve it. If not, if anyone happens to have it, could he please forward it to me. It is the description of tthe camera obscura that I arranged for a partial solar eclipse

Re: trivial pursuit

2001-03-27 Thread Tony Moss
Frank Evans and John Shilke contributed: Dear Frank (and all), You'll be amused to know that I use an astrolabe, a hand calculator (Casio), AND a slide rule to do the calculations. Much easier than programming, I think, but then I'm ancient, according to my children! Hello John (and all) Also

RE: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Roger Bailey
I have a modest proposalas an alternative. Why doesn't Swatch produce a watch that shows local solar time. How often have you been frustrated trying to explain why high noon is at 1:41:30 pm clock time. Think how useful a solar watch would be in determining which direction is north for

RE: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Mac Oglesby
Hi Roger, I've just received an email from the noted sundial designer Dr. April Furst,authorizing me to purchase, on her behalf, 91 shares in your proposed company formed to manufacture and sell watches which display loco [sic] time. Please send particulars asap. Thanks, Mac Oglesby

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread Shadow Maker
standard time zones boundries were established, most localities requested to have the boundires modified from the 15 degre boundries to fit their policical regions. And several have mentioned tha Arizona (USA) does not go on Daylight Savings Time in the summer. Here is an interesting

Re: Time Zones

2001-03-27 Thread A.Brown
Hi All I just wondered what members in the group think of the latest zoneless time concept, Internet Time where the day is broken up into beats eliminating the need for geographical based time zones. Is it seen as helping to make ours one world or as cynical "commercial" exploitation? see