Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-07-08 Thread johncarmichael
Great idea Gianni! Will have to try it. Thanks John C. On Fri, 5 Jul 2002 18:39:57 +0200 Gianni Ferrari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read with a lot of interest the numerous and very interesting messages that concern the Shadow Sharpener and I would like to make a little observation.

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-07-08 Thread William S. Maddux
Gianni and John, A good front face mirror for the sun can be made from a scrap of ordinary window glass. Mark it with a glass cutter (or a carbide scribe) and make controlled breaks along the pre-scribed lines to obtain the size you want. Soften the sharp edges and corners with wet or dry

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-07 Thread john . davis
Hi Dialling colleagues, Patrick Powers asked if anyone had practical experience of the bead-in-a-hole (pinspeck) shadow sharpener. I used one experimentally o my Isaac Newton mean-time equatorial dial (see www.flowton-dials.co.uk). It consisted of a 3mm dia phosphor bronze bead suspended in

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-07 Thread John Carmichael
- From: Patrick Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 3:14 PM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again Message text written by INTERNET:sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de John said: ...but do you think your formula could help determine the optimum size

RE: Shadow Sharpener Again, and sunrise and sunset elsewhere

2002-06-07 Thread Andrew James
Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2002 16:50 To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again It seems as though the only practical use for a bead-in-hole is on the alidade of an equatorial heliochronometer Since for it to work properly, as John Davis pointed out, it must

AW: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-06 Thread Arthur Carlson
Patrick Powers wrote ... The basic formula is actually f=(s^2)/(L), where f is the focal length, s is the radius of the (infinitely thin!) hole and L is the wavelength of the light. I would express this a bit differently, since a pinhole does not form an image in the sense that a lens

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-06 Thread John Carmichael
PROTECTED] To: sundial sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 4:30 PM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again John, I clicked 'send' on my last message without adding the detail of the formula! The basic formula is actually f=(s^2)/(L), where f is the focal length, s is the radius

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-06 Thread Patrick Powers
Message text written by INTERNET:sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de John said: ...but do you think your formula could help determine the optimum size of the gap between the bead and hole of a bead-in-hole sharpener? Yes it can help but it's not the same! Strictly the process is different but the

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-05 Thread John Carmichael
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:23 AM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again John wrote: I just tested a bead-in-hole shadow sharpener and five pinhole sharpeners ranging in diameter from 2mm to 6mm. I used the shadow edge of my house's roof (which

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-05 Thread Patrick Powers
Message text written by INTERNET:sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de That's a very useful formula! Not that it would be of practical value, because I'm just using visible light, but does that mean that the pinhole size would change with different wavelenght of light? Yes, the pinhole effect is driven by

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-05 Thread Patrick Powers
John, I clicked 'send' on my last message without adding the detail of the formula! The basic formula is actually f=(s^2)/(L), where f is the focal length, s is the radius of the (infinitely thin!) hole and L is the wavelength of the light. Sunshine has a representative wavelength of 550

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-03 Thread John Carmichael
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again In a message dated 05/30/2002 9:25:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I apologize for my original explanation

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-03 Thread Wuwalton
To determine offset of the perceived shadow edge, I built a simple device consisting of a cardboard test pattern, a white cardboard screen, and a stick to separate them about 36". The test pattern was two parallel strips each exactly 1" wide with a 1" gap between them. Over a three month period

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-06-03 Thread Wuwalton
I think my best bet will be to use the 2 mm pinhole. But I will take all of them to the mountain because I want to test all the sizes using the telescope's shadow edge. Maybe the larger holes will work better if the distance to the style is increased? Whadya think? John, I agree, the larger

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-31 Thread Pete Swanstrom
oeln.de Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again Pete, Thanks for clearing this up. Amazing how our fingers do not type what we think we have said! I think your results are in good agreement with mine. Your difference in degrees between the center of the Sun's ima

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-30 Thread Pete Swanstrom
a double-edged gnomon such as a rod, cable, pinhole, slit, etc. Thanks. Pete S. - Original Message - From: Pete Swanstrom To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again On a brightday with clear skies, the perceived edge

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-30 Thread John Carmichael
- Original Message - From: Pete Swanstrom To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:12 AM Subject: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again I apologize for my original explanationregardingthe perceived edge of a shadow, it was wrong. The corrected first

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-30 Thread Wuwalton
I apologize for my original explanation regarding the perceived edge of a shadow, it was wrong. The corrected first paragraph should read as follows: On a bright day with clear skies, the perceived edge of a shadow appears near the inner edge of the penumbra (near the umbra). With increasing

Re: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-28 Thread Pete Swanstrom
Title: Re: Shadow Sharpener Again blockquote, dl, ul, ol, li { margin-top: 0 ; margin-bottom: 0 } --> On a brightday with clear skies, the perceived edge of a shadow appearsnear the outer edge of the penumbra. With increasing haze or whenever the edge of a cloud passes by, the perceived e

RE: Shadow Sharpener Again

2002-05-24 Thread JاE LUI� TUTANJAM�N