Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
Dear Barry, That was super! Thanks so much for putting up the video for those of us outside the charmed BBC circle. best wishes, Peter On 16/10/2012 8:00 AM, Barry Wainwright wrote: For the sake of those who cannot access it directly, I have uploaded the relevant section to https://www.dropbox.com/s/xavxsquc1x1plwt/sundial.m4v I will leave this file up for the next two weeks only, please do not distribute the file URL. -- -- Peter Mayer Politics Department The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA 5005 Ph : +61 8 8313 5609 Fax : +61 8 8313 3443 e-mail: peter.ma...@adelaide.edu.au CRICOS Provider Number 00123M --- This email message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains information that may be confidential and/or copyright. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender by reply email and immediately delete this email. Use, disclosure or reproduction of this email by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. No representation is made that this email or any attachments are free of viruses. Virus scanning is recommended and is the responsibility of the recipient. --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
Actually if you jump to about 27:50 you can catch Mike directly. Super stuff, Mike! John From: Tony Moss Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:55 AM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow. Hi all, I've just checked and Mike Shaw's appearance on antiques roadshow with his Pilkington Gibbs Heliochronometer and Sol Horometer is available on BBC iPlayer as follows. Google for BBC iPlayer where recent programmes are listed alphabetically. Select 'A' and then 'Antiques Roadshow' where you will have to watch the programme from the beginning. Best, Tony Moss. P.S. It doesn't always rain in Liverpool/ Port Sunlight! ;-) --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby Hi all, I've just checked and Mike Shaw's appearance on antiques roadshow with his Pilkington Gibbs Heliochronometer and Sol Horometer is available on BBC iPlayer as follows. Google for BBC iPlayer where recent programmes are listed alphabetically. Select 'A' and then 'Antiques Roadshow' where you will have to watch the programme from the beginning. Best, Tony Moss. P.S. It doesn't always rain in Liverpool/ Port Sunlight! ;-) --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
Online content that is blocked for certain regions can be viewed using a proxy service. There is a simple program called Tunnelbear, available at http://tunnelbear.com , that will allow you to view content that is restricted to the UK. You just download the program, turn it on and set it to UK and sites like BBC iPlayer will function. The service is free with a monthly data limit. Using proxy services is common and completely legal, and Tunnelbear is a trusted service. Using proxies may violate the terms of use of some websites, so be advised. On 15.10.2012 06:05, Mac Oglesby wrote: Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby Hi all, I've just checked and Mike Shaw's appearance on antiques roadshow with his Pilkington Gibbs Heliochronometer and Sol Horometer is available on BBC iPlayer as follows. Google for BBC iPlayer where recent programmes are listed alphabetically. Select 'A' and then 'Antiques Roadshow' where you will have to watch the programme from the beginning. Best, Tony Moss. P.S. It doesn't always rain in Liverpool/ Port Sunlight! ;-) --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
On 15/10/2012 10:54, John Foad wrote: Actually if you jump to about 27:50 you can catch Mike directly. Super stuff, Mike! John Yes, very knowledgeable and confident, and a great plug for the BSS. Thanks for the time stamp John, for those of us who didn't want to sit through the whole thing. Pity the sun never shines up north :-) -- -- Richard Mallett Eaton Bray, Dunstable South Beds. UK --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
On 15/10/2012 10:48 AM, brick...@62bricks.com wrote: Online content that is blocked for certain regions can be viewed using a proxy service. There is a simple program called Tunnelbear, available at http://tunnelbear.com , that will allow you to view content that is restricted to the UK. You just download the program, turn it on and set it to UK and sites like BBC iPlayer will function. The service is free with a monthly data limit. Using proxy services is common and completely legal In the context of Mac's question, the above statement seems overly simple to me, and a full answer must depend on the country you live in. In Canada, using a proxy service is indeed completely legal in itself. However, with the Copyright Moderization Act passed back in September it becomes a crimal offence to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate or impair [a] technological protection measure unless it is done with the authority of the copyright owner where a technological protection measure is defined as any effective technology, device or component that, in the ordinary course of its operation [...] controls access to a work. The new law is still waiting for Royal Assent but this is expected soon. In its ordinary course of operation the iPlayer prevents access for non-UK viewing. This control is in place specifically for copyright reasons so, to my way of thinking, in Canada use of a proxy could perhaps be contrued as an attempt to circumvent the protection measure. An analogy might be that although it's OK to posess a screwdriver, it is illegal in Canada to use that screwdriver to remove a neighbour's doorlock to get in order to use the pool while the neighbour is on vacation. I concede however, that I have no legal training, and of course there's no Case Law in place yet to guide us on how the courts would actually view the practice. Steve On 15.10.2012 06:05, Mac Oglesby wrote: Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
In the US, it is my opinion that while it is probably a violation of the BBC's website terms of use, using a proxy service to access streaming content for personal use would be considered fair use from the viewpoint of copyright. Nevertheless - In the specific case of iPlayer and Canada, if you have an Apple device such as an iPhone or iPad, you can download the BBC iPlayer app and watch BBC content freely, although I do not know if Antiques Roadshow is one of the shows available. The app is also available in Australia and the EU. The sun never sets on the BBC's digital distribution rights (if you have an iPhone, that is.) [Why they are able to distribute video over iPhones but not over desktops I cannot fathom. It is also the case that you can freely access BBC radio content outside the UK on a desktop, but not over a mobile device.] Another possibility is to keep an eye on the Antiques Roadshow website at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006mj2y where they usually select a few clips from recent episodes and make them available for a time worldwide without restriction. Perhaps they will excerpt Mike Shaw's segment there. On 15.10.2012 11:02, Steve Lelievre wrote: On 15/10/2012 10:48 AM, brick...@62bricks.com wrote: Online content that is blocked for certain regions can be viewed using a proxy service. There is a simple program called Tunnelbear, available at http://tunnelbear.com , that will allow you to view content that is restricted to the UK. You just download the program, turn it on and set it to UK and sites like BBC iPlayer will function. The service is free with a monthly data limit. Using proxy services is common and completely legal In the context of Mac's question, the above statement seems overly simple to me, and a full answer must depend on the country you live in. In Canada, using a proxy service is indeed completely legal in itself. However, with the Copyright Moderization Act passed back in September it becomes a crimal offence to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate or impair [a] technological protection measure unless it is done with the authority of the copyright owner where a technological protection measure is defined as any effective technology, device or component that, in the ordinary course of its operation [...] controls access to a work. The new law is still waiting for Royal Assent but this is expected soon. In its ordinary course of operation the iPlayer prevents access for non-UK viewing. This control is in place specifically for copyright reasons so, to my way of thinking, in Canada use of a proxy could perhaps be contrued as an attempt to circumvent the protection measure. An analogy might be that although it's OK to posess a screwdriver, it is illegal in Canada to use that screwdriver to remove a neighbour's doorlock to get in order to use the pool while the neighbour is on vacation. I concede however, that I have no legal training, and of course there's no Case Law in place yet to guide us on how the courts would actually view the practice. Steve On 15.10.2012 06:05, Mac Oglesby wrote: Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
For the sake of those who cannot access it directly, I have uploaded the relevant section to https://www.dropbox.com/s/xavxsquc1x1plwt/sundial.m4v I will leave this file up for the next two weeks only, please do not distribute the file URL. -- Barry On 15 Oct 2012, at 12:05, Mac Oglesby ogle...@sover.net wrote: Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby Hi all, I've just checked and Mike Shaw's appearance on antiques roadshow with his Pilkington Gibbs Heliochronometer and Sol Horometer is available on BBC iPlayer as follows. Google for BBC iPlayer where recent programmes are listed alphabetically. Select 'A' and then 'Antiques Roadshow' where you will have to watch the programme from the beginning. Best, Tony Moss. P.S. It doesn't always rain in Liverpool/ Port Sunlight! ;-) --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial
Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow.
Thank you Mike for creating an interesting lesson on heliochronometers. Thank you, Barry for making this available along the lines of acceptable use within the copyright and intellectual property laws. I see the sundial list was included as a bcc. I will respect that. Thank you Steve for pointing out that there are laws on digital copyrights that are getting more restrictive. The free internet that we have all contributed to is rapidly becoming a restrictive business. Regards, Roger Bailey -- From: Steve Lelievre steve.lelievre.can...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 9:02 AM To: sundial@uni-koeln.de Subject: Re: BBC iPlayer - Antiques Roadshow. On 15/10/2012 10:48 AM, brick...@62bricks.com wrote: Online content that is blocked for certain regions can be viewed using a proxy service. There is a simple program called Tunnelbear, available at http://tunnelbear.com , that will allow you to view content that is restricted to the UK. You just download the program, turn it on and set it to UK and sites like BBC iPlayer will function. The service is free with a monthly data limit. Using proxy services is common and completely legal In the context of Mac's question, the above statement seems overly simple to me, and a full answer must depend on the country you live in. In Canada, using a proxy service is indeed completely legal in itself. However, with the Copyright Moderization Act passed back in September it becomes a crimal offence to avoid, bypass, remove, deactivate or impair [a] technological protection measure unless it is done with the authority of the copyright owner where a technological protection measure is defined as any effective technology, device or component that, in the ordinary course of its operation [...] controls access to a work. The new law is still waiting for Royal Assent but this is expected soon. In its ordinary course of operation the iPlayer prevents access for non-UK viewing. This control is in place specifically for copyright reasons so, to my way of thinking, in Canada use of a proxy could perhaps be contrued as an attempt to circumvent the protection measure. An analogy might be that although it's OK to posess a screwdriver, it is illegal in Canada to use that screwdriver to remove a neighbour's doorlock to get in order to use the pool while the neighbour is on vacation. I concede however, that I have no legal training, and of course there's no Case Law in place yet to guide us on how the courts would actually view the practice. Steve On 15.10.2012 06:05, Mac Oglesby wrote: Alas! I get a message saying BBC iPlayer programmes are available to play in the UK only, Any alternatives which might let those of us not in the UK see Mike? Best wishes, Mac Oglesby --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial --- https://lists.uni-koeln.de/mailman/listinfo/sundial