On 5/1/2017 2:11 PM, Francisco Gómez wrote:
And during the process, someone recently told me
something like this.
"It's old software. Its last version is from 2014. If I have to
choose between a dynamic, bug-filled init like Systemd and a barely
maintained init like Runit, I'd rat
On Mon, 01 May 2017 23:11:25 +0200
Francisco Gómez wrote:
> "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014. If I have to
> choose between a dynamic, bug-filled init like Systemd and a barely
> maintained init like Runit, I'd rather use Systemd."
>
> That sounds bad, doesn't it?
Y
Hi,
2017-05-02 6:32 GMT-03:00 Francisco Gómez García:
>
> May 2, 2017 8:35 AM, "Steve Litt" wrote:
>
>> I also am surprised you could get Gnome to work without systemd. Just
>> for fun, try out LXDE, and install dmenu and have it at the ready
>> with an easy hotkey. I think you'll love the product
Francisco Gómez García:
> And the person who told me the "it is too old" thing used arguments
> such as "it will eventually not compile" - while I doubt a small codebase
> on plain C will stop compiling in the near future, it is indeed something
> to keep an eye on.
That person needs to learn f
The Debian maintainer is now Dmitry Bogatov.
* https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/runit
And unless I'm mistaken, he's not subscribed to this list, which is
a shame. It makes no sense for software to only be maintained for a
distribution (unless, of course, it's distribution-specific software);
and
Laurent Bercot:
> Lots of work have been put into s6 in the last few years, more than in any
> other supervision suite, with the possible exception of nosh;
(-:
Laurent Bercot:
> the fact that Void Linux has not yet switched to s6 is proof that runit is
> still working well enough for them and th
Laurent Bercot:
> It is also true that it would benefit from closer maintenance.
> Gerrit Pape, runit's author, is still around and still reads this list,
> but is not as active as he was a few years ago (typically during
> runit development). Fortunately, there are not many feature requests.
Hi!
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 07:16:24PM +0200, Francisco Gómez wrote:
> Besides, if you could magically do perfect small
> applications, that means you'd have to keep working with and on
> millions of small tools, right? Wouldn't that just add up complexity!?
It depends, but in general just having
Laurent Bercot:
> > "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014."
>
> Old? Let's see...
A more amusant counterexample is perhaps the Debian Almquist shell, put into
widespread use on Debian and Ubuntu a decade ago in order to speed up bootstrap.
M. Almquist first published it in May 1989.
May 2, 2017 12:00 PM, "Laurent Bercot"
wrote:
> Old? Let's see...
> The MTA used by this very mailing-list is netqmail-1.06, i.e.
> qmail (latest version released in 1996) with user-contributed
> patches, the latest of which is from 2005.
> So yeah, that's 12 years old software. It could be going
On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:34:52AM +, Laurent Bercot wrote:
> systemd, on the other hand, hasn't left the maternity hospital - but
> how could it? it's such a fragile baby, it needs constant attention,
> it can barely leave the incubator. If you ask me, it should never have
> left the womb in
"It's old software. Its last version is from 2014."
Old? Let's see...
The MTA used by this very mailing-list is netqmail-1.06, i.e.
qmail (latest version released in 1996) with user-contributed patches,
the latest of which is from 2005.
So yeah, that's 12 years old software. It could be g
May 2, 2017 8:35 AM, "Steve Litt" wrote:
> I also am surprised you could get Gnome to work without systemd. Just
> for fun, try out LXDE, and install dmenu and have it at the ready
> with an easy hotkey. I think you'll love the productivity
> enhancement, once you get used to it.
Yes, GNOME wor
May 2, 2017 12:08 AM, "Alex Efros" wrote:
> Hi!
Hey! First of all, thanks for the quick, polite reply. Didn't expect to be
written in days, actually - so that on itself is already a good-enough greeting.
> That sounds like everyone has own preference and that's ok. If you
> like complexity and
On Mon, 01 May 2017 23:11:25 +0200
Francisco Gómez wrote:
> Hello there, nice to meet you! If you don't mind, I'll be quite too
> straight and tell you what I'm coming for.
>
> So, a few days ago, I switched to Void Linux. This not only meant that
> my hipster non-mainstream levels had increased
Hi!
On Mon, May 01, 2017 at 11:11:25PM +0200, Francisco Gómez wrote:
> "It's old software. Its last version is from 2014. If I have to
> choose between a dynamic, bug-filled init like Systemd and a barely
> maintained init like Runit, I'd rather use Systemd."
>
> That sounds bad, does
Hello there, nice to meet you! If you don't mind, I'll be quite too
straight and tell you what I'm coming for.
So, a few days ago, I switched to Void Linux. This not only meant that
my hipster non-mainstream levels had increased over 9000, but that I
had switched from Systemd to Runit as well. At
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