Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-07 Thread Olivier Brunel
On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 16:35:37 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > >Thing is, I've always thought of anopa as a set of tools, that allow > >you to set things up however you want. I like that idea, and so > >that's why it doesn't create service(dir)s on its own, unlike >

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-07 Thread Laurent Bercot
Thing is, I've always thought of anopa as a set of tools, that allow you to set things up however you want. I like that idea, and so that's why it doesn't create service(dir)s on its own, unlike s6-rc. I totally agree with that philosophy, but all the pressure I'm getting is always in the

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-07 Thread Olivier Brunel
On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 22:44:07 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > I'm obviously partial to s6-rc since it's the one I wrote :) and I'm > especially proud of the fact that it runs oneshots with the same > reproducible launch guarantees that it runs longruns with -

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-06 Thread Laurent Bercot
Reading the abovementioned link, I still can't figure out exactly what "service management" is. The part about "bring all services up" and "bring all services down" sound to me like rc scripts. Is that correct? It would be more accurate to say that rc scripts are the old, traditional way of

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-06 Thread Jean Louis
On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 02:40:35PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > come with plenty of examples and enough redundancy that even the most > unfamiliar can understand exactly what you're talking about. If I may interfere, s6 supervision is not quite adequate for most unfamiliar, and you are also not in

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017: video

2017-02-06 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:03:00 + "Laurent Bercot" wrote: > Hello everyone! > > I'm back from FOSDEM and it was great! Lots of people to meet, lots > of interesting talks to attend. And I had my own 15 minutes of glory, > complete with French accent and mic

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-06 Thread Andy Mender
On 6 January 2017 at 11:23, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard < j.deboynepollard-newsgro...@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Casper Ti. Vector: > > resource control and [...] cgroup support can be easily implemented with >> chainloading >> >> > I pointed at the nosh Guide back in December. The sharp-eyed will

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-06 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Casper Ti. Vector: resource control and [...] cgroup support can be easily implemented with chainloading I pointed at the nosh Guide back in December. The sharp-eyed will notice the advent of a new command in the command list chapter. This is a sneak preview of 1.31.

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-05 Thread Colin Booth
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:59 AM, Laurent Bercot wrote: > > I didn't look too hard at the source code because things like this > _should_ be documented no matter what. I remember early experiments > with old RedHats or Debians where the gettys were actually started in

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-05 Thread Casper Ti. Vector
Now I see. Thanks :) On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:59:28AM +, Laurent Bercot wrote: > Please bear in mind that I did not intend these slides to be published > as is, I only linked them to show FOSDEM organizers that there was > material to work with - and they ended up on the public event

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-05 Thread Laurent Bercot
* p. 12: after skimming inittab(5), I am inclined to agree that the time to start `respawn' processes are undocumented. But I do not think they are started in parallel with `wait' processes: whether on Gentoo or Alpine, I always find gettys to be started after `openrc default'. I

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-04 Thread Casper Ti. Vector
* p. 12: after skimming inittab(5), I am inclined to agree that the time to start `respawn' processes are undocumented. But I do not think they are started in parallel with `wait' processes: whether on Gentoo or Alpine, I always find gettys to be started after `openrc default'. * pp.

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-04 Thread Laurent Bercot
Your goo.gl hyperlink on page 34 is to the old WWW site. (-: Fixed, thanks :) -- Laurent

Re: s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-04 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Your goo.gl hyperlink on page 34 is to the old WWW site. (-:

s6 talk at FOSDEM 2017

2017-01-04 Thread Laurent Bercot
Hello everyone, I will be giving a short talk at FOSDEM 2017 (in Brussels, Belgium) on February 4th, about s6 and process supervision. https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/event/s6_supervision/ If you're in the area, don't hesitate to come by and say hello! -- Laurent