[freenet-support] how can I connec to freenet over a proxy server?

2003-12-12 Thread Martin Henke
can anyone explain me, how to connect to freenet over a proxy server?
Or if this is the wrong mailing list, where sould I ask such a question?

thanks for any help, and sorry for my bad english.
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RE: [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away...

2003-12-12 Thread Pete
Amen to that Ian, 0.4 was WAY better than 0.3 (eventually ;)

Pete

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian Clarke
>Sent: 12 December 2003 01:14
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away...
>
>
>Um, thanks for the pessimism I guess.
>
>Some of us are working very hard to figure out how to address the 
>problems we are seeing, but I guess others just want to benefit from 
>this research project without accepting the risks.  Fortunately, most 
>seem to accept that sometimes, when you are on the cutting 
>edge, and you 
>are trying new ideas all the time, somethings things need to get worse 
>so that they can get better.
>
>Ian.
>
>Art Charbonneau wrote:
>> I'm a johnny-come-lately to Freenet, and I guess I came 
>along a little
>> too late to see it in action. It's sad, but Freenet seems to 
>be fading 
>> away; fewer links work every day, and those that do have 
>little content 
>> left.
>>  
>> I've tried the boards at Frost, but other than a few 
>testers, nonsense
>> posters, and idiot flamers, there is no one there either. Reasonable 
>> questions posted to the Newbie Help board go unanswered by 
>anyone, and 
>> searches find only 'offline' stuff.
>>  
>> I think Reskill has summed it up pretty well. Ain't it a shame? I'll
>> continue to run a node and provide some storage for a while, but the 
>> time will come, shortly, to shut it down for good. Will the 
>last one out 
>> get the lights?
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away...

2003-12-12 Thread Art Charbonneau



Thanks for the note. I should not have slighted your (and Toad's) efforts. 
After all, you have accomplished an incredible thing... a world-wide net through 
which people can communicate freely.
 
Perhaps I was just having a 'down' period...  like Freenet.  
;-)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ian Clarke 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:14 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet is 
  fading away...
  Um, thanks for the pessimism I guess.Some of us are 
  working very hard to figure out how to address the problems we are seeing, 
  but I guess others just want to benefit from this research project without 
  accepting the risks.  Fortunately, most seem to accept that 
  sometimes, when you are on the cutting edge, and you are trying new ideas 
  all the time, somethings things need to get worse so that they can get 
  better.Ian.Art Charbonneau wrote:> I'm a 
  johnny-come-lately to Freenet, and I guess I came along a little > too 
  late to see it in action. It's sad, but Freenet seems to be fading > 
  away; fewer links work every day, and those that do have little content 
  > left.>  > I've tried the boards at Frost, but 
  other than a few testers, nonsense > posters, and idiot flamers, there 
  is no one there either. Reasonable > questions posted to the Newbie 
  Help board go unanswered by anyone, and > searches find only 'offline' 
  stuff.>  > I think Reskill has summed it up pretty well. 
  Ain't it a shame? I'll > continue to run a node and provide some 
  storage for a while, but the > time will come, shortly, to shut it down 
  for good. Will the last one out > get the 
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Re: [freenet-support] RE: Support Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17

2003-12-12 Thread Art Charbonneau



Very thoughtful comments, J; I'll hang in there. Your view on how 
development of new capability could have been introduced re stable/unstable 
forks is cogent. I don't know about you, buy I've never made a mistake 
when developing software. Not!   ;-)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Garb 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:20 
  AM
  Subject: [freenet-support] RE: Support 
  Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17
  -Original Message-Message: 8Date: Thu, 11 Dec 
  2003 12:28:03 -0800From: "Art Charbonneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: 
  [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away...To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Message-ID: 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Content-Type: 
  text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1">I'm a johnny-come-lately to 
  Freenet, and I guess I came along a little too>late to see it in 
  action. It's sad, but Freenet seems to be fading away;>fewer links work 
  every day, and those that do have little content left.>I've tried 
  the boards at Frost, but other than a few testers, nonsense>posters, 
  and idiot flamers, there is no one there either. Reasonable>questions 
  posted to the Newbie Help board go unanswered by anyone, and>searches 
  find only 'offline' stuff.>I think Reskill has summed it up pretty 
  well. Ain't it a shame? I'll>continue to run a node and provide some 
  storage for a while, but the time>will come, shortly, to shut it down 
  for good. Will the last one out get the>lights?Gee Art, 
  that is a very pessimistic wiev of the future - overly so, I think.There 
  is no doubt that the respected founders of Freenet made a majorstrategic 
  blunder as they - in a well meaning effort to upgrade thetechnology - 
  introduced a series of "updates" that ground everything to ahalt and 
  basically stopped Freenet right in its tracks, where it has nowbeen 
  standing for the better part of a year.An approach like this is bound to 
  drive all the normal users and contentproviders away, leaving only 
  hardcore techies and strong freedom-of-speechbelievers to hold the 
  torch.The right way to do it (20/20 hindsight is so easy :-)would have 
  been, tofork out development in stable/unstable a long time ago, and keep 
  the stablerelease the last well working version (that would be from around 
  March 2003or something), and never ever introduce a new version unless it 
  was 100%sure to improve performance - or, at least, not degrade it. Surely 
  it mustbe possible to upgrade a network without shutting it down for 
  years.But all that being said, I have no doubt that the developers are 
  workinghard to bring everything back to speed and I am confident that the 
  endresult will be an even better network than the one we "lost" in 
  thebeginning of the year. And once things are running smoothly again, 
  thenormal users will return, because Freenet is more needed than ever and 
  ithas no competitors - there really isnt anything like it.So hang in 
  there Art. It is not a death you are witnessing - it is 
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Re: [freenet-support] Sometimes can't get to my own node's data

2003-12-12 Thread Art Charbonneau



My goof in my email...   Q to Y, of course. (Which is what I 
actually did.)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Roger Hayter 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:17 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Sometimes 
  can't get to my own node's data
  In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
  Art Charbonneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  writes>Thanks for the suggestion, Kevin, but I've been running 
  with>"max-connections" set to 200, and "max-connections-per-server" set 
  to>100. So that shouldn't be the problem, right?> 
  >Someone else suggested setting "threadFactory" to "Q", rather than 
  the>default. I'm trying that.If you look back I think you 
  will see they actually suggested changing it from Q (default) to Y.  
  Also, have you got "dontLimitClients=yes", this exempts connections to 
  your browser from bandwidth 
  limiting?>  - Original Message 
  ->  From: Kevin Steen>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
  Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:37 PM>  Subject: Re: 
  [freenet-support] Sometimes can't get to my own node's>  
  data>>  On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 04:49, Art Charbonneau 
  wrote:>  > I'm running 5050 on ADSL, 2.4 GHz, with Outgoing set 
  to 30,7200>  B/s,>  > CPU set to normal priority, 
  and store set to 1 gig.>  > >  > Sometimes 
  Freenet starts up quite normally (for this period in>  
  time)>  > and I can get to a few freesites (mainly using 
  bookmarks, in>  Netscape>  > 7.1), but then I'll go 
  back to the Web Interface to look at info>  and>  > 
  stats, and I can't get to my own node (like right now).>>  
  This sounds most like you're hitting the limit of connections in>  
  your>  browser. If you have one browser window open trying to 
  retrieve>  images>  for a page (e.g. The Freedom 
  Engine) then your browser will wait for>  those connections to 
  finish before trying to download the web>  interface>  
  page.>>  If you are running Opera or a Mozilla-based 
  browser, there are>  instructions in the Freenet README file on 
  how to extend the number>  of>  connections your 
  browser uses per server.>>  -Kevin>>  
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Re: [freenet-support] Novita'

2003-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry for the misdirected post.

8(

Marco

On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 11:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Come forse molti sapranno, il gruppo di sviluppo sta
>  disabilitando alcune delle ultime modifiche della
>  versione stabile 5xxx per cercare di far ripartire
>  Freenet come strumento utilizzabile.
> 
> L'ultima modifica (dell'altro ieri) e' stata la rimozione
>  del pcaching; per favore aggiornate i vostri nodi se
>  girate la versione stable.
> 
> Se fra una settimana la situazione non sara' migliorata,
>  verra' eseguito un backport con la versione stable 692
>  che quasi certamente fara' ripartire tutto.
> 
> Vorrei dire "l'avevo detto" ma si sa che Ian ci impiega
>  qualche mese ad accettare le buone idee che non sono sue 
> 
> Ciao.   Marco
> 
> P.S. se girate la unstable, tenete presente di aggiornare
>  quotidianamente, perche la "last good" e' solo un paio
>  di unita' indietro.
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FW: RE: [freenet-support] node references

2003-12-12 Thread Robert Greenage


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> [Original Message]
> From: Robert Greenage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 12/12/03 7:03:46 AM
> Subject: RE: [freenet-support] node references
>
>  i upgraded to 5050, manually reseeded and i still cannot get any
connections. for awhile with 5048 i was able to get many connections easily
and then it stopped. iam using win98se,500 mz PIII,192 RAM and a dual HDD
master= 10 Gigs and slave = 30 GIGS, java 1.4.2_01-b06.I am running the
freeware version of Zone Alarm 3.7.202. Allowing all java apps to have
internet access. Open connections 0(0/40/0). The routing table which had
been full back in version 5037 or some such is totally empty.Number of node
references =19 ,number of nodes contacted = 0.What, if anyting, am I doing
wrong or...need to do differently?
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Niklas Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 12/11/03 10:56:19 AM
> > Subject: RE: [freenet-support] node references
> >
> > >i am updating my node references. the message says this should only
> > take a minute. It
> > >has been saying >>that for over ten minutes now . is that normal?
> >
> > Nope.. Try downloading the seednodes.ref file manually from
> > http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref
> >
> > Put it in the 'Freenet' folder on your harddrive and restart the node to
> > make use of it.
> >
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RE: [freenet-support] node references

2003-12-12 Thread Robert Greenage
 i upgraded to 5050, manually reseeded and i still cannot get any
connections. for awhile with 5048 i was able to get many connections easily
and then it stopped. iam using win98se,500 mz PIII,192 RAM and a dual HDD
master= 10 Gigs and slave = 30 GIGS, java 1.4.2_01-b06.I am running the
freeware version of Zone Alarm 3.7.202. Allowing all java apps to have
internet access. Open connections 0(0/40/0). The routing table which had
been full back in version 5037 or some such is totally empty.Number of node
references =19 ,number of nodes contacted = 0.What, if anyting, am I doing
wrong or...need to do differently?


> [Original Message]
> From: Niklas Bergh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 12/11/03 10:56:19 AM
> Subject: RE: [freenet-support] node references
>
> >i am updating my node references. the message says this should only
> take a minute. It
> >has been saying >>that for over ten minutes now . is that normal?
>
> Nope.. Try downloading the seednodes.ref file manually from
> http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref
>
> Put it in the 'Freenet' folder on your harddrive and restart the node to
> make use of it.
>
> /N
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[freenet-support] Novita'

2003-12-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Come forse molti sapranno, il gruppo di sviluppo sta
 disabilitando alcune delle ultime modifiche della
 versione stabile 5xxx per cercare di far ripartire
 Freenet come strumento utilizzabile.

L'ultima modifica (dell'altro ieri) e' stata la rimozione
 del pcaching; per favore aggiornate i vostri nodi se
 girate la versione stable.

Se fra una settimana la situazione non sara' migliorata,
 verra' eseguito un backport con la versione stable 692
 che quasi certamente fara' ripartire tutto.

Vorrei dire "l'avevo detto" ma si sa che Ian ci impiega
 qualche mese ad accettare le buone idee che non sono sue 

Ciao.   Marco

P.S. se girate la unstable, tenete presente di aggiornare
 quotidianamente, perche la "last good" e' solo un paio
 di unita' indietro.

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[freenet-support] RE: Support Digest, Vol 5, Issue 17

2003-12-12 Thread Garb


-Original Message-
Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 12:28:03 -0800
From: "Art Charbonneau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet is fading away...
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

>I'm a johnny-come-lately to Freenet, and I guess I came along a little too
>late to see it in action. It's sad, but Freenet seems to be fading away;
>fewer links work every day, and those that do have little content left.

>I've tried the boards at Frost, but other than a few testers, nonsense
>posters, and idiot flamers, there is no one there either. Reasonable
>questions posted to the Newbie Help board go unanswered by anyone, and
>searches find only 'offline' stuff.

>I think Reskill has summed it up pretty well. Ain't it a shame? I'll
>continue to run a node and provide some storage for a while, but the time
>will come, shortly, to shut it down for good. Will the last one out get the
>lights?


Gee Art, that is a very pessimistic wiev of the future - overly so, I think.
There is no doubt that the respected founders of Freenet made a major
strategic blunder as they - in a well meaning effort to upgrade the
technology - introduced a series of "updates" that ground everything to a
halt and basically stopped Freenet right in its tracks, where it has now
been standing for the better part of a year.
An approach like this is bound to drive all the normal users and content
providers away, leaving only hardcore techies and strong freedom-of-speech
believers to hold the torch.
The right way to do it (20/20 hindsight is so easy :-)would have been, to
fork out development in stable/unstable a long time ago, and keep the stable
release the last well working version (that would be from around March 2003
or something), and never ever introduce a new version unless it was 100%
sure to improve performance - or, at least, not degrade it. Surely it must
be possible to upgrade a network without shutting it down for years.
But all that being said, I have no doubt that the developers are working
hard to bring everything back to speed and I am confident that the end
result will be an even better network than the one we "lost" in the
beginning of the year. And once things are running smoothly again, the
normal users will return, because Freenet is more needed than ever and it
has no competitors - there really isnt anything like it.
So hang in there Art. It is not a death you are witnessing - it is a
(re)birth...

Regards,
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Re: [freenet-support] Sometimes can't get to my own node's data

2003-12-12 Thread Roger Hayter
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Art Charbonneau 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Thanks for the suggestion, Kevin, but I've been running with
"max-connections" set to 200, and "max-connections-per-server" set to
100. So that shouldn't be the problem, right?
 
Someone else suggested setting "threadFactory" to "Q", rather than the
default. I'm trying that.


If you look back I think you will see they actually suggested changing 
it from Q (default) to Y.  Also, have you got "dontLimitClients=yes", 
this exempts connections to your browser from bandwidth limiting?







 - Original Message -
 From: Kevin Steen
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Sometimes can't get to my own node's
 data
 On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 04:49, Art Charbonneau wrote:
 > I'm running 5050 on ADSL, 2.4 GHz, with Outgoing set to 30,7200
 B/s,
 > CPU set to normal priority, and store set to 1 gig.
 > 
 > Sometimes Freenet starts up quite normally (for this period in
 time)
 > and I can get to a few freesites (mainly using bookmarks, in
 Netscape
 > 7.1), but then I'll go back to the Web Interface to look at info
 and
 > stats, and I can't get to my own node (like right now).
 This sounds most like you're hitting the limit of connections in
 your
 browser. If you have one browser window open trying to retrieve
 images
 for a page (e.g. The Freedom Engine) then your browser will wait for
 those connections to finish before trying to download the web
 interface
 page.
 If you are running Opera or a Mozilla-based browser, there are
 instructions in the Freenet README file on how to extend the number
 of
 connections your browser uses per server.
 -Kevin

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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet under Linux issues

2003-12-12 Thread Justin The Cynical
On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 15:49:53 +0100
"Niklas Bergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Does the link take you to an URL which seems right?
> > 
> > It doesn't show me anything but that word, no links or URL's.
> 
> Bah.. I didn't ask about the page.. I asked about the URL (it can
> usually be seen in the 'Address' field of the browser).

Oops, misunderstood.  It takes me to the external IP address of the
machine, just on a different port (8891)

 
> > The windows version doesn't seem to understand that I set the 
> > ini to make it a perm node, so it refuses to even try. 
> 
> Maybe it cannot? Have you configured the Ipaddress properly if you are
> NAT:ed? Have you read what it says in the log?

Yes I have and I believe I did set it up correctly.

The XP machine is behind a NAT, but the init file does specifically
state my real world IP (per the docs).  And the log doesn't show any
startup errors after I got the init file edited correctly.

But all of this is moot since the latest stable build won't stop
throwing java errors and crashing.
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