Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Darren]

There was no conf file included with any of the 5.0.X releases.  I also checked the 
snapshots dir, and no conf file sitting there either.
My freenet.conf was generated by preconfig.sh, and contains only a couple simple 
settings.

I'm obviously missing something. 

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 08:14:37PM -0500, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > I am using http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CLO as my
> > freenet.conf reference...is there a better location?
> 
> Yeah.  The freenet.conf file itself.
> 
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Re: [freenet-support] freenet can't find java

[GeckoX]

Make sure that your j2re directory is in your $PATH. That's what fixed that problem 
for me.

:GeckoX

++ 02/11/02 22:40 +0100 - Kitesmurf:
>I just got freenet, but whenever I try to run start-freenet.sh I get an
>error telling me that the command "java" was not found. J2re 1.4.1 is
>installed though. Any advice please?

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[freenet-support] I figured it out (Network Error Again (more details)

[John E. Mayorga]

I swtitched the logging to debug mode and found that
the error was that I had the datastore set too small.
During the installation, it was suggested that 2500kb
(or something like that), so I typed in 2500. I
thought the number entered was in kilobytes. Looking
at the freenet.conf file, I found that it was in
bytes, not kilobytes. I set the number low to start
off, but I didn't mean for it to be THAT low.

Anyways, my suggestion to Ian: during installation,
specify the units entered when asking the question of
the storeSize.

Thanks everybody.

John


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[freenet-support] Network Error Again (more details)

[John E. Mayorga]

Hello!

I am not able to connect to freenet for some reason. I
am using Freenet 0.5.0.4 and "J2SETM v 1.4.1_01", the
most recent version of Java from Sun. Several times I
tried deleting the freenet directory and starting from
scratch by extracting it from a tarball after various
experiments in getting it to work. I have downloaded a
seednodes.ref file from
http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref to no avail (I
believe he is using version .4). Here is the error:

Network Error

Couldn't retrieve key:
CHK%40hdXaxkwZ9rA8-SidT0AN-bniQlgPAwI%2cXdCDmBuGsd-ulqbLnZ8v%7ew

Hops To Live: 15
 Error: Route not Found 

Attempts were made to contact 5 nodes.

 4 were totally unreachable. 
0 restarted. 
1 cleanly rejected. 
Route Not Found messages mean that your node, or the
rest of the network, didn't find the data or enough
nodes to send the request to. You should retry, with
the same Hops-To-Live; if it persists, there may be a
problem (check that your internet connection is
working). Try reseeding your node, and if that doesn't
work, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

... and sometimes:

Network Error

Couldn't retrieve key:
CHK%40hdXaxkwZ9rA8-SidT0AN-bniQlgPAwI%2cXdCDmBuGsd-ulqbLnZ8v%7ew

Hops To Live: 15
 Error: Route not Found 

Attempts were made to contact 0 nodes.

 0 were totally unreachable. 
0 restarted. 
0 cleanly rejected. 

The request couldn't even make it off of your node.
Try again, perhaps with the GPL to help your node
learn about others. The publicly available seed nodes
have been very busy lately. If possible try to get a
friend to give you a reference to their node instead. 
Route Not Found messages mean that your node, or the
rest of the network, didn't find the data or enough
nodes to send the request to. You should retry, with
the same Hops-To-Live; if it persists, there may be a
problem (check that your internet connection is
working). Try reseeding your node, and if that doesn't
work, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

...hmm. The request couldn't make it off my node?

All of the Freenet network links give these errors.
The numbers for "totally unreachable" and "cleanly
rejected" always vary.

I am running on RedHat Linux 7.3, attached by
cablemodem, protected by firewall. I have opened the
"listenPort" (5) on my firewall and verified it by
running "nmap -P0 -p 5 MyIPAddress" from a remote
system. nmap reports that there is an unknown service
available on the port.

Does anyone have any ideas as to what I should do or
what I can try?

Here is are the contents of my freenet.conf file:

[Freenet node]
# Freenet configuration file
# Note that all properties may be overridden from the
command line,
# so for example, java freenet.node.Main --listenPort
1 will cause
# the setting in this file to be ignored

# Lines that start with "%" are settings that have
been unchanged from
# default, and that are thus ignored by the node (so
they don't linger
# when we want to change the default settings). If you
change these
# settings you should remove the "%".

# This file was automatically generated by
Freenet.scripts.Setup (at Nov 2, 2002 6:52:06 PM)


# The IP address of this node as seen by the public
internet.  This is
# needed in order for the node to determine its own
node reference.
# If you have a dynamic IP address, you may enter a
host name in this
# field (assuming you have a dynamic DNS service).  If
this is a
# transient node, you can leave this blank.
ipAddress=24.127.54.220

# The port to listen for incoming FNP (Freenet Node
Protocol) connections on.
listenPort=5

# The port to listen for local FCP (Freenet Client
Protocol) connections on.
clientPort=

# A comma-separated list of hosts that may connect to
the FCP port
# (clientPort).  If left blank, only the localhost
will be allowed. If you set this, make sure localhost
is included in the list or  access won't be allowed
from the local machine. 
# May be given as IP addresses or host names.
%fcpHosts=

# If this is set then users that can provide the
password can
# can have administrative access. It is recommended
that
# you do not use this without also using adminPeer
below
# in which case both are required.
%adminPassword=null

# If this is set, then users that are authenticated
owners
# of the given PK identity can have administrative
access.
# If adminPassword is also set both are required.
%adminPeer=null

# Transient nodes do not give out references to
themselves, and should
# therefore not receive any requests.  Set this to yes
if you cannot
# receive incoming connections, or cannot keep the
computer continuously
# online.
%transient=false

# If this is true, the node will automatically
announce to all nodes in
# the  file, as specified by
, etc.
%doAnnounce=true

# A file containing one or more node references which
will be incorporated
# into the node's routing table on startup.  A
reference is only added if
# there is no previously existing reference to that
node.  When this node
# announces, it will announce to the nodes lis

Re: [freenet-support] FCP Tools

[Jay Oliveri]

On Wednesday 30 October 2002 20:45 pm, Reed Hedges wrote:
> Hi, Is FCP Tools current, and if so, is there anonymous CVS (read)
> access?

In CVS there are two branches: HEAD and FCP_0_4_7.  Download the 
FCP_0_4_7 branch (anon/read is allowed) for the current 
'stable' release.  If you prefer, try the tarball at:

http://freenetproject.org/snapshots/fcptools-stable.tgz

Unstable is currently under active development (incremental commits) 
and isn't guaranteed to do much of anything for the time being.

> I want to add freenet support to typechain, a library I wrote for VOS
> to automatically decode data or to fetch data from a URL. Since
> typechain is written in C++, I need (or strongly desire) a C or C++
> library that I can use...

ezFCPlib is the library you may want.  But it is functionally broken in 
the 'stable' tree.  There will be many improvements to come with the 
release currently being worked on; until then...

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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Greg Wooledge]

Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> I am using http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CLO as my
> freenet.conf reference...is there a better location?

Yeah.  The freenet.conf file itself.

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[freenet-support] 100% CPU Usage

[Justin]

I run a perm. 24/7 node and it uses 100% of my CPU power alot of the 
time. Does anyone know how I can make it so that itw ill not go about 50%?


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Re: [freenet-support] FCPTools Compile confusion

[Jay Oliveri]

On Friday 01 November 2002 19:41 pm, Larry Kirkpatrick [cwp] wrote:
> No, I have root but haven't had to drop into it to do anything.  I
> just did the regular install back with 525.  Really, I just need to
> figure out how to create a SSK so I can inject my freesite under it.
> LK

If you run ./configure without the --prefix parameter, then the 
configure script (via Autoconf) will assume you mean /usr/local/..., 
which are all root owned by default.

Something like: "./configure --prefix=/home/user" will attempt to 
install the binaries in /home/user/bin when "make install" is later 
executed.

Hope this helps.

> On Friday, November 1, 2002, at 04:22  PM, Thomas Amm wrote:
> > Am Sam, 2002-11-02 um 00.50 schrieb Larry Kirkpatrick[cwp]:
> >> Putting this together in OS X.2.  I know this is not FCP Support,
> >> but perhaps a listender can help.  here's the problem I get at the
> >> end.
> >>
> >> /bin/sh ../mkinstalldirs /usr/local/include
> >> mkdir /usr/local/include
> >> mkdir: /usr/local/include: Permission denied
> >> make[2]: *** [install-includeHEADERS] Error 1
> >> make[1]: *** [install-am] Error 2
> >> make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
> >
> > are you trying to install as non-root user?
> > Freenet nodes should never be *run* with root permissions,
> > but you'll need to install them as root.

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[freenet-support] Problem with Freenet behind a firewall on a Linux computer

[Peter Hallberg]

Hi
I have problem to run freenet behind a firewall on a Linux (RedHat 7.2) 
computer. I have open the FNP port that freenet use in my firewall. I have 
also change the ipAddress in “freenet.conf” file to the external ip-number 
of my firewall. I’m able to run freenet behind the firewall on my win98 
computer and I’m also able to run freenet on my Linux computer when it 
connected to internet without a firewall. But when I try to run freenet on 
my Linux computer when it is behind my firewall freenet seams to refuse to 
start. It seams like it complain about “InetAddress” (ip-address??) see 
error message below. What’s wrong and what can I do about it?

(I’m using freenet 0.5 built 529)



[kalle@dhc freenet]$ sh start-freenet.sh
[kalle@dhc freenet]$ Exception in thread "main" 
java.lang.ExceptionInInitializerError
   at freenet.node.Main.main(Main.java:181)
Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
   at java.net.InetAddress.cacheAddress(InetAddress.java:648)
   at java.net.InetAddress.cacheAddress(InetAddress.java:633)
   at 
java.net.InetAddress.getAddressFromNameService(InetAddress.java:1016)
at java.net.InetAddress.getLocalHost(InetAddress.java:1125)
   at freenet.support.FileLoggerHook.(FileLoggerHook.java:28)
   ... 1 more

[kalle@dhc freenet]$






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Re: [freenet-support] Bugs ate my routing table

[Mathew Ryden]

- Original Message - 
From: "Vitenka - Zen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Win 98, Java 1.4_2, Build 529

Sun?

> "Routing rtable corrupt"
> "Please delete all rt files and restart freenet"
> Do so, freenet starts - all requests cannot make it off the local node.
> Reseed node; nothing improves.
> 
> The network has lost me completely, I presume.

In the freenet directory, delete the rt_ files. Reseed. Should work then

-Mathew


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[freenet-support] Bugs ate my routing table

[Vitenka - Zen]

Win 98, Java 1.4_2, Build 529
"Routing rtable corrupt"
"Please delete all rt files and restart freenet"
Do so, freenet starts - all requests cannot make it off the local node.
Reseed node; nothing improves.

The network has lost me completely, I presume.



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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Doug Bostrom]

11/2/02 3:54:02 PM, Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>overloadlow? overloadhigh?
>Are these new/undocumented settings? 
>I am using http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CLO as my freenet.conf 
>reference...is there a 
better location?
>

overloadhigh and overloadlow are in the config file, at least in the linux version. 
Using these settings I can 
run a permanent node without losing the use of my net connection for everything else. 
Kudos to Gianni Johansson 
for tipping this...



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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Doug Bostrom]

11/2/02 4:41:37 PM, "Silver Tear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I know transient=false has to be set, thats not the problem. The problem is
>once it is set to be a 24/7 node, it won't accept any connections from me.

The reason I mention transient is that in the config file you included in your mail it 
is set "true."



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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.4

[Mike]

frost, and freenews 
those 2 addons. kill my win2k. not sure why, but i can not use them now. 
- Original Message - 
From: "Matthew Toseland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.4




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[freenet-support] freenet can't find java

[Kitesmurf]

I just got freenet, but whenever I try to run start-freenet.sh I get an
error telling me that the command "java" was not found. J2re 1.4.1 is
installed though. Any advice please?




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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Darren]

overloadlow? overloadhigh?
Are these new/undocumented settings? 
I am using http://freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/twiki/view/Main/CLO as my freenet.conf 
reference...is there a better location?

Thanks 

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 02:16:55AM -0500, Doug Bostrom wrote:
> You need to set transient=false. You may also want to set 
> overloadlow=.60 and overloadhigh=.65
> 
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> - Judge Damon Keith 
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Re: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.4

[Matthew Toseland]

On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:08:48PM -0800, Mike wrote:
> GAPING PLUGIN LEAK!1
> 
> like omg!!! since build 527, i can not use the plugins.. they drain my
WHAT plugins?
> resources to fast it kills my win2k.
> i have a gig of Ram on this thing. but it drains so fast. it does not give
> me a chance to opt out.
> 
> i went back to build 525 and this leak is not there.
> can this be fixed?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Matthew Toseland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 5:52 PM
> Subject: [freenet-support] Freenet 0.5.0.4
> 

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[freenet-support] Permanent and Transient Nodes

[Roger Hayter]

Having no understanding of the code, I have been doing some experiments 
to find out why a transient node running here works very well, soon 
acquires good connectivity, and retrieves most advertised sites:  at the 
same time, given the same references (and multiple transfusions of 
working ones from the transient node) a (usually overloaded because of 
CPU and bandwidth restrictions) permanent node dies in various painful 
ways.  The main difference seems to be in  the chance of contacting a 
node reference.  The transient node settles down to having 20 to 60 
nodes in the routeing table, each of which can be contacted more than 
50% of the *number of trials*.  It seems to me, and someone please 
correct me if I am wrong, that the difference must relate to the nature 
of a contact attempt in the two types of nodes.  It could be that a busy 
permanent node makes less of an attempt (fewer packets?) for each 
"trial" recorded on the Routing Table Status page.  I doubt this, again 
comments from those that know are welcome.  Another possibility is that 
the generality of other nodes could be more likely to reply to a contact 
attempt from a transient node:  this only seems possible if, for some 
reason, the transient node on average sends different kinds of "trial" 
contacts - is anything like this possible?  It seems most likely that 
(since the node refs are the same) the *reply* is less likely to be 
received by the overloaded permanent node, presumably as part of the 
overload managing process.

My proposal is that such replies to contact attempts be given a very 
high priority.  If it is necessary (for network health reasons [1]) to 
restrict the ability of an overloaded permanent node to give priority to 
its own contact attempts over requests from other nodes to it, then do 
this by restricting the frequency with which an overloaded  permanent 
node is allowed to attempt contacts with other nodes, but prioritise the 
replies, so it can gradually build up a routing table (not just keep 
generating futile threads until it stalls, as it does for me now).

I should find it educational if anyone could point out a fallacy in the 
above argument.



[1] Actually, a permanent node that only manages to service a small 
number of requests seems to be potentially better than one that does not 
work at all, but this may not be true!


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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Silver Tear]

I know transient=false has to be set, thats not the problem. The problem is
once it is set to be a 24/7 node, it won't accept any connections from me.
- Original Message -
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Subject: Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node


> You need to set transient=false. You may also want to set
> overloadlow=.60 and overloadhigh=.65
>
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> - Judge Damon Keith
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Re: [freenet-support] 24/7 node

[Doug Bostrom]

You need to set transient=false. You may also want to set 
overloadlow=.60 and overloadhigh=.65

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Re: [freenet-support] version - 139 - what are all thes extra ports?

[Mathew Ryden]

- Original Message -
From: "Vitenka - Zen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 02, 2002 3:32 AM
Subject: [freenet-support] version - 139 - what are all thes extra ports?


> I have listeners (blocked at firewall) on ports 135 (rpcss.exe) 137-139
> (freenet.exe) and 1025 (rpcss again)

I can't remember jwhat 135 and 1025 are, but 137-139 are lcoked normally by
ISPs to prevent people from accessing your microsoft network. Freenet has
nothing to do with those ports, unless you changed the config so it should

> What are they?  They aren't being caused by the java code, since that all
goes
> through javaw

-Mathew


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Re: [freenet-support] After the download ?

[Greg Wooledge]

joost ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> It began with the question: Enter a Freesite URI here. This was really
> Chinese for me.

Ignore that box.  Look at the "bookmarks" box that has links to
"The Freedom Engine" and "Freenet Forever" and "Cruft".  Click on
those, and be patient.

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[freenet-support] After the download ?

[joost]

As I’m very interested
in the freenet-project,  so I downloaded the program. I
have to agree that I’m not a specialist in programming and configurating, but I wasn’t able at all to run the
program. I think you have to be aware that not all internet users are real
nerds.

It began with the question:
Enter a Freesite URI here. This was really Chinese
for me.

 

Is it possible to mail me (or
to link me to) easy comprehensible explanation of the working of freenet.

 

Thanks a lot

 

Bob

Re: [freenet-support] how to get 6xy releases?

[Greg Wooledge]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> i'd like to experiment a bit with the "unstable" releases. how can i reach and 
>download them?

They're on , just like the
"stable" builds.

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Re: [freenet-support] FCPTools Compile confusion

[Greg Wooledge]

Aaron Kurtz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> > Greg Wooledge  |   "Truth belongs to everybody."
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  |- The Red Hot Chili Peppers

> This email came with a bad signature, as did one other recent email. All
> of the rest of yours have checked out okay. My mailer, yours, or both?

Or maybe something in between, like the mailing list server?
Very weird.

For whatever it's worth, yours validated fine against the key that
I got from the public key servers.

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Re: [freenet-support] Network Error

[Greg Wooledge]

John E. Mayorga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

> Attempts were made to contact 5 nodes.
> 
>  5 were totally unreachable. 
> 0 restarted. 
> 0 cleanly rejected. 

> Try reseeding your node, and if that doesn't
> work, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Reseeding means to get seednodes.ref from someone else whose node is
working better than yours.  Mine are available at
http://wooledge.org/~greg/seednodes.ref is you'd like to try them.

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[freenet-support] how to get 6xy releases?

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howdy...

i'd like to experiment a bit with the "unstable" releases. how can i reach and 
download them?



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[freenet-support] Threads - too many.

[Roger Hayter]

Build 605, Sun 1.4.1_01, Linux kernel 2.4.10.  My node, after a variable 
number of hours stops doing anything, because the OS does not allow it 
to make more threads. It reports a Java out-of-memory error, but it 
seems to really be a not-allowed-to-start-a-thread error.  There seems 
to be a per-user limit of about 550 threads (SuSE 7.3).  All the threads 
in use gradually drop out of use.  Currently I have 7 threads in use, a 
thread pool of 550, and mainport works sufficiently to tell me that 
there are no open connections, and jobs due 12 hours ago have not yet 
been done.  This happens identically with maximumThreads set to 60, -60, 
120, -120.  Does maximumThreads actually do anything at all (apart from 
the - flag)?  Is there any way of discarding threads from the thread 
pool so that the node can make a new one?  Is there any way of getting 
it use a thread from the 550 in the pool rather than beg the OS for a 
new one?



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[freenet-support] version - 139 - what are all thes extra ports?

[Vitenka - Zen]

I have listeners (blocked at firewall) on ports 135 (rpcss.exe) 137-139 
(freenet.exe) and 1025 (rpcss again)

What are they?  They aren't being caused by the java code, since that all goes 
through javaw


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Re: [freenet-support] How big is freenet, right now, you think?

[Mika Hirvonen]

On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, Vitenka - Zen wrote:

> I mean, how many nodes?  Because I see a big problem.

My node sees about 145 nodes right now.

> If I upload a file with an HTL of 5 (10 being the 'max sensible' the client 
> recommends)
> 
> And you download with an HTL of 15
> 
> Then if there are at least 16 sites it becomes posisble for you to fail to 
> find my insert - and once there are 50 node it becomes likely.

True, but this would be the case only if nodes couldn't rely on their
routing tables to efficiently decide which node to forward the request to.

In the early days of version 0.4 development this was the case, because 
the developers were making changes to the FNP(Freenet Node Protocol, used 
by the nodes to talk to each other) and the routing code. To test the 
changes, they had to make the new versions incompatible with the older 
versions. In essence, they forced the new versions to create a new 
network, making most of their routing tables useless.

> If peoples routing tables are full, and there are a few thousand nodes... how 
> will new content ever be found?  The existing stuff is ok, because it's 
> already mirrored.

A key does not have to be in any node's routing table to be found. Freenet
routing works by forwarding a request for a key to the node having similar
keys. It compares the requested key to all the keys in the routing table
and sends the request to the node with the key closest to the requested
key.

> Do you have to rely upon having five or six logically distant people 
> requesting your file and going away unsatisfied each day so that everyone else 
> can see it?  Or have I misunderstood the white paper?

In an optimal situation (infinite storage space and good routing tables),
all you have to do to publish your content and have it retrievable for
everyone is to insert it once. The routing code forwards your insert to
the node most likely to be queried for the data. All subsequent requests
with a high enough HTL for that data will be forwarded to that node,
allowing anyone to retrieve it.

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  http://nightwatch.mine.nu/



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