RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Aman Pervaiz
14MB...sorry about he typo :)
 
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 09:50:08PM +0500, Aman Pervaiz wrote:
 Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
 I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine
 of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
 I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
 files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in a 
couple

Uhm, do you mean 14MB?

 of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better than
 stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad, Ian 
and
 the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
 Aryan

   -Original Message-
   From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Cc:
   Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
  
  

   Toad writes:
  
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the 
last
stable builds have been really good already ..
   
They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually 
run
unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
  
   With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have 
gone away
   (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect 
due
   to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
   worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, 
it's
   not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's 
ever
   been.
  
   You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people 
don't
   need support. :)
  
   For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
- Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting 
era);
- Re-seed with the stable seeds;
- Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
- Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
- Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
   start-freenet.sh);
- Increase store size to 4 GB.
  
   Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my 
store
   size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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[freenet-support] Duplicated references

2004-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In the current unstable seednodes there are
 313 references, but only 162 unique nodes.

Of the 162, a lot are artifacts leaved by
 updating or changing port.

Can this be a problem, considering the
 current hight reseeding frequency ?

FWIW.   Marco

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Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 12:59:46AM -0500, Nicholas Sturm wrote:
 
 Would you possibly agree with this, There is no known way to meaningfully
 evaluate the performance of freenet?

No. There are several ways to evaluate it. My favourite is push/pull
tests. Insert a file on one node, and fetch it from another unrelated
node. How long does it take? How many retries? Etc. That is one
performance measure. Another one is does streaming work?. Nobody has
been crazy enough to try recently to the best of my knowledge :).
 
 
  [Original Message]
  From: Conrad Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: vinyl1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: 3/9/2004 7:28:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [freenet-support] freenet commitment settings
 
 
  On 09-Mar-2004 vinyl1 wrote:
   OK, I have the latest build (5074), the latest seed nodes, the latest
   everything I could find as of today, 3/8/2004
   
   On the Web interface, I can't load The Freedom Engine, Dolphin's Free
 Index,
   and Content of Evil.  I can load the Freenet Help Index and YoYo.  This
 is
   possibly due to unreachable, out-of-date nodes.  The stuff that does
 load
   seems to work better than before.
 
  Basing your evaluation of your node's performance on what's appearing
 and/or
  reachable via the main web interface is not a good idea.  Most of the
 gateway
  sites have been horribly unreliable for quite some time now (with the
 exception
  of DFI).  I really don't know why this is the case; I've had no trouble
 at all
  inserting DFI daily.  To ensure that the next DBR update is inserted in
 time, I
  always start the update process (an automated, scheduled job) at least 1
 1/2
  hours prior to the rollover time (12:00 am GMT).  I'm wondering if other
  gateway site maintainers are not allowing enough time in advance for their
  inserts to complete on time.
 
  DFI's insert got a little screwed up yesterday, due to the fact that I
 was in
  the process of running a portupgrade of my JDK under FreeBSD.  Probably
 due to
  the additional load on the system from running the build, FIW somehow
 ended up
  inserting DFI one day further into the future than it was supposed to.  I
 didn't
  discover this and finally get the problem corrected until about 8:30 pm
 CST
  (2:30 am GMT).
 
  I saw someone else here basing assumptions about their node's behavior on
 the
  fact that they couldn't reach YoYo!  Unfortunately, Yoyo! is one of the
 more
  unreliable sites lately (no idea why).
 
  Anyway, the gist of the idea is this: don't assume that non-functioning
 gateway
  sites mean your node is not working.
 
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: How to (REALLY) get on the NEW unstable branch

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 11:26:18PM -0500, Keith Botelho wrote:
 you could get the latest build which is 6281.  

Uhmm, no, the latest build is 60,003 :)

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 From: Martin Stone Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 10:51 PM
 Subject: [freenet-support] Re: How to (REALLY) get on the NEW unstable branch
 
 
  Nicholas Sturm wrote:
   Do I have this correct now?
   
   If one is a window user and has been using 5028; found things weren't
   working normally and made a reinstall; that one really has little
   likelihood of getting things to work again unless one is a geek?
  no
  
   
   Should I just remove all of the freenet system I have and wait for someone
   to send us a message that we can now get started again without reading tons
   of stuff we don't understand and trying to guess what goes between the few
   snip-its that we suspect we may understand?
  no
  
   
   Could someone that is knowledgeable send an email via support to all the
   lost souls when the system
   finally has a form that a novice could use if they first went to
   freenetproject.org and tried following a simple non-user cookbook recipe?
   
   Please say check an appropriate choice:
   
   _  Yes
  check
  
   
   _  No, we don't have time nor need anyone running a node that has not
   been invited to the  inter sanctum.
  
  So anyway, i dunno... Is there something you didn't understand about my 
  post?  I thought I very nicely gave all the info you needed to get up 
  and running on the new system.
  
  If you want to remain with stable (your choice, really), then it should 
  work.  The only geeky thing you *might* have to do is re-seed.  If 
  you've recently (within the past 4 days?) installed freenet, 
  re-installed freenet, or downloaded seednodes.ref, then there's a good 
  chance you have a bad seednodes.ref, and you need to re-download it from 
  freenetproject.org/snapshots/seednodes.ref.
  
  That's not too hard is it?  Let me know if you have a specific question.
  
  -Martin
  
  
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Re: [freenet-support] A few basic questions

2004-03-11 Thread support
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 10:03:33PM -0800, Eugene Smith wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I hope someone can answer these questions for me.
 
 I've got build 6281 installed and running. This link:

Where did you get build 6281 from?

 http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodestatus/version_histogram.txt
 says nodes: 49. Does it mean that:
 - there are 49 freenet users total online at this moment,
 - or there are only 49 of them my PC knows about,
This option. There are 49 nodes that your node knows about. No one node
will normally know about the whole of the rest of the network.
 - or something entirely different?
 
 What is the expected number of users and amount of shared data
 in Freenet
 at any given moment?

Stable branch: around 10,000 nodes, I don't know what amount of data,
probably in the gigabytes range, in terms of actually reachable content;
might be more. We can't accurately count either users or content because
of freenet's anonymous nature.
 
 Is it normal that Freenet does not even attempt to saturate my
 upstream bandwidth
  like all other p2p networks do ( bandwidth usage stays around
 500 bytes/second,
 the channel is 128 kbps )?

No.
 
 How long should it take for the client to learn about the
 network, at least to the extent
 where it manages to open all links from
 http://127.0.0.1:/servlet/nodeinfo/ ?

Not all the links are inserted every day, so some of them will remain
unreachable. However I'd expect the node to saturate your uplink, or at
least, to saturate the set bandwidth limit which default to 12kB/sec,
within 24 hours or so; performance should have improved significantly in
that time.

One other thing: if you are behind a NAT or firewall, you will have to
jump through some hoops (not only forwarding the listenport, but also
telling the node what it's external IP address is in the config).
 
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Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
Unfortunately crawling freenet via HTTP will have the main effect of
DoSing your freenet node, because every web download takes up a thread,
and we therefore limit parallel HTTP downloads to 24-36. Ideally you'd
want a real FCP spider; there must be one out there somewhere.

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 05:58:54PM +1300, David McNab wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 17:11, tripolar wrote:
  Hello all
  
  I need a program to crawl links in freenet to get sites in cache before 
  I need them. I get frustrated with the speed of freenet and dead links. 
  I have used freenet on windows  linux and just installed freenet last 
  night on this winbox. I spent hours clicking on links just trying to 
  pull them in.
  Anything I can do other than manually clicking on all links?
 
 A winbox, eh?
 
 Well, there are dozens of freeware and shareware (crack available)
 windoze programs to recursively download websites. Sites like
 www.tucows.com, www.nonags.com, www.shareware.com etc list them by the
 score.
 
 You might need to try a few until you hit on one which doesn't molest
 the '//' in freenet URIs.
 
 Once you choose a site downloader program, you'd need to point it at:
 - http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/TFE//
 - http://localhost:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/YoYo//
 or, point it at whatever site(s) you need, observing the above URL
 syntax. Be sure to disable the timeout (or extend it to an hour or so),
 because these crawler progs are used to web performance.
 
 One last thing - these crawler progs won't be able to tell one freesite
 from another, since it will perceive all freesites as part of the same
 'site' at http://localhost:/. So take care to set a pattern match
 requirement (unless you want the crawler to suck the whole freenet).
 
 Cheers
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Re: [freenet-support] Usability improvement ideas

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 03:18:10PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Quoting Ian Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
  criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's first impression can be 
  enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.
 
 freenet:// handled by Opera, Firebird etc. If Freenet isn't installed, a 
 redirection to http://freenet.sf.net where the download links are more 
 prominently displayed. 

There's a nice flamewar :).

 There _has_ to be a question when installing asking the 
 user if he/she pays for bandwidth (esp outgoing) and set the configuration in 
 Freenet accordingly - bad press resulting from Joe Doe installing Freenet and 
 getting $1000 bills (think NZ, OZ) isn't good.

Hmm. Good idea. However, I'm not sure that you CAN run a freenet ndoe
with any reasonable performance if it's limited to 3GB/mo as is common
in oz. Technically, the solution is the average bandwidth limiter.
However this is not known to work well (it is pretty much untested since
NIO), mostly because no developers have that sort of connection. Perhaps
we should put some effort in, but I'm not sure that it's proportionate
as users with such connections won't get much out of or contribute much
to Freenet. Yes, it might be useful for the occasional content author,
so it IS worth thinking about; it's just that they'll be put off by the
dire performance implied.

 
 More advertising. Atm Diebold are shutting down sites hosting their memos 
 using the DMCA. Educate the world to the fact that Freenet can be used for the 
 public good - the memos are already available in Freenet.

The NY Times article did a lot of that for us :).
 
 Better portals. People _don't_ want links to child pornography (no, I don't want 
 a discussion, flamefest etc, I'm talking the general public who want to USE 
 Freenet) to be the first thing they see. Instead the top portal should contain 
 links like the Diebold one, the Scientology Bible etc. Advertise the fact that 
 Freedom of Speach is the central issue.

Somebody want to maintain a freesite that links to controversial
material but doesn't link to illegal material? A lot of it is a matter
of judgement and personal ethics - Thought Crime links to Mein Kampf and
an article on bestiality as well as a lot of overtly political stuff.
Anyway, YoYo's Controversy section is a good start.
 
 I just wrote a comment to an article in Sweden's largest IT-newssite where I 
 brought this up (regarding the Swedish military wanting to tap regular users' 
 Internet-connections). This is where we need to push Freenet.
 
 (http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200310/31/20031031135522_SOS/20031031135522_SOS.
 dbp.asp for the ones who can read Swedish)
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[freenet-support] Periodically restarting the node...

2004-03-11 Thread Krist van Besien
Hello,

As on my system my node reliably goes haywire after about 6 to eight 
hours I need to restart it periodically. I'm just wondering what the 
effect is on how well my node is integrated in the network.

I read on the list that a node needs to be online for a while until it 
will have gathered enough info about neighbouring nodes to server 
content with any rate of success.

So what will teh effect be if I restart my node every six hours?

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Re: [freenet-support] Periodically restarting the node...

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Thu, Mar 11, 2004 at 02:49:46PM +0100, Krist van Besien wrote:
 Hello,
 
 
 As on my system my node reliably goes haywire after about 6 to eight 
 hours I need to restart it periodically. I'm just wondering what the 
 effect is on how well my node is integrated in the network.

What happens exactly? That sounds like a bug. What build are you
running?
 
 I read on the list that a node needs to be online for a while until it 
 will have gathered enough info about neighbouring nodes to server 
 content with any rate of success.
 
 So what will teh effect be if I restart my node every six hours?
 
 Krist
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 10:37:33PM -0500, vinyl1 wrote:
 I have a similar machine with Win2K and dialup, and can't get anywhere.
 
 I'm not surprised that I can't retrieve much freesite content, although
 surprisingly I can get a fair number of Frost messages.
 
 What baffled me is that I was unable to insert a small (1.9 meg) file with
 FUQID.  After configuring so that FUQID connects to my client port
 correctly, it goes ahead and opens ten threads, but all the insert attempts
 with them fail and they keep retrying and failing again.  I used to be able
 to insert easily, and I have retrieved 30 meg files running overnight.

This is odd... maybe a timeout in FUQID?
 
 I'll try with some new seed nodes.  The obvious thing to do is get a more
 modern machine and broadband.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Aman Pervaiz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:50 AM
 Subject: RE: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
 
 
  Yup you are right. Freenet is working better than ever right now.
  I have a poor 56k connection. I run a transient node on a machine
  of 650Mhz and windows xp...stable and unstable both fred versions.
  I am downloading files all the time. For example I downloaded two 14GB
  files that were inserted months ago successfully and very fastjust in
 a couple
  of  hours. Most of the free-sites are accesible. Unstable works better
 than
  stable though. But yup freenet is evolving and growing. Cheers to Toad,
 Ian and
  the rest of the team. Hope I could get broadband and contribute one day :)
  Aryan
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Joe Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed 3/10/2004 6:57 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc:
  Subject: [freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville
 
 
 
  Toad writes:
 
   On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 02:21:19PM +0100, Troed S?ngberg wrote:
   My experience is the opposite of his, but I guess you know that the
 last
   stable builds have been really good already ..
  
   They have? In what sense? All I hear are complaints... and I usually run
   unstable, because it's what gets hacked on mostly...
 
  With the the latest stable builds, my java hanging problems have gone
 away
  (I figure that they were in an infinite loop trying to garbage collect due
  to the leaks; it's a bug in the jvm, certainly, but it seems it's been
  worked around) and I'm able to fetch information fairly easily. Sure, it's
  not like surfing the web, but right now freenet is better than it's ever
  been.
 
  You're only ever going to hear complaints because the happy people don't
  need support. :)
 
  For reference, what I did to make Freenet work well:
  - Blow away my old freenet configuration (from the last slashdotting era);
  - Re-seed with the stable seeds;
  - Forward the correct port on my Linksys router;
  - Use cjb.net for IP forwarding;
  - Increase RAM allowance for the jvm to 256 MB (-Xmx256m in
  start-freenet.sh);
  - Increase store size to 4 GB.
 
  Most of this is standard configuration. The only reason I increased my
 store
  size is because I wanted to contribute more to the network.
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Re: [freenet-support] This error is showing up in my logs a LOT

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
I'd guess it was a problem with the OS, or the JVM. You can however work
around it by setting ipAddress=my ip address and ipDetectorInterval=0
in the config file (remove any preceding %'s or #'s first), and of
course restarting the node.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 07:49:20PM -0800, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
 
 How can I fix this error that's showing up in my logs very repetitively:
 
 Mar 10, 2004 2:33:00 AM (freenet.node.IPAddressDetector, QThread-89,
 ERROR): SocketException t$
 java.net.SocketException: Bad address
 at java.net.NetworkInterface.getAll(Native Method)
 at
 java.net.NetworkInterface.getNetworkInterfaces(NetworkInterface.java:204)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:95)
 at
 freenet.node.IPAddressDetector.checkpoint(IPAddressDetector.java:82)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.checkpoint(Checkpoint.java:56)
 at
 freenet.node.states.maintenance.Checkpoint.received(Checkpoint.java:49)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:168)
 at freenet.node.StateChain.received(StateChain.java:55)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.run(StandardMessageHandler.java:210)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.received(StandardMessageHandler.java:157)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler$Ticket.access$0(StandardMessageHandler.java)
 at
 freenet.node.StandardMessageHandler.handle(StandardMessageHandler.java:67)
 at freenet.Ticker$Event.run(Ticker.java:256)
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 freenet.thread.QThreadFactory$QThread.run(QThreadFactory.java:214)
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Re: [freenet-support] Just Getting Started

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Wed, Mar 10, 2004 at 11:04:29AM +, Toad wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 09, 2004 at 08:37:34PM -0800, Galen wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I think I have a relatively decent idea of how freenet works. And if I 
  had a nice broadband connection I could dedicate to freenet, I'd be 
  delighted and I don't think I'd have problems. But for now, my results 
  with freenet have been, to say the least, lackluster. I am currently on 
  dialup internet and using transient mode. Any suggestions on how to 
  make things actually work? I want to just explore and load a few pieces 
  of content...
  
  I'm running Mac OS X and don't seem to have problems loading up freenet 
  and whatnot, it's just actually getting it to load content that's 
  basically impossible. I'm more than reasonably terminal-comfortable.
  
  And yeah, I know I seriously need broadband. Qwest just brought DSL to 
  my neighborhood and I'll probably sign up pretty soon here, but for 
  now, dialup is where I'm at. Really, if people are trying to use 
  freenet to get sensitive information (the stuff governments want to 
  censor), it's very possible they'll be on dialup also, so I don't think 
  there's quite zero use for dialup, you know...
 
 It's a matter of what is possible. If dialup is what you have, unless
 the network is working VERY well, your node will not work well.

Having said that, some of the major freesites were inserted for years
from a modem...
  
  -Galen
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Re: [freenet-support] Build 5073 : RouteNotFound Fetching (running) freenet.exe ???

2004-03-11 Thread Toad
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 06:36:09PM +0200, notmyrealemail wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Build 5073 seems to connect very poorly and the log is filled with 
 this kind of messages :
 
 16:25:39  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],Zt29QUMcl6ozbq4MqdSOhQ as
 freenet.exe for DistributionServlet   -
 16:25:59  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mDUG92va0G8-DOMEVStbPg as
 NodeConfig.exe for DistributionServlet-
 16:25:59  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],plfo5EJ1SVj~vMHYw2PiSQ as
 freenet-webinstall.exe for DistributionServlet-
 16:25:59  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],Zt29QUMcl6ozbq4MqdSOhQ as
 freenet.exe for DistributionServlet   -
 16:26:39  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],plfo5EJ1SVj~vMHYw2PiSQ as
 freenet-webinstall.exe for DistributionServlet-
 16:26:39  RouteNotFound Fetching (running)
 freenet:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mDUG92va0G8-DOMEVStbPg as
 NodeConfig.exe for DistributionServlet-
 16:27:08  Fetched file freenet.exe
 
 Why is my Linux node fetching .exe programs? And why the connectivity 
 is so poor? I have only one peer node???

So it can give them to windows users. We download all the components,
regardless of operating system, so that we can generate the distribution
ZIP (see the Spread Freenet link on the web interface).
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Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet

2004-03-11 Thread Ian Clarke
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Toad wrote:
| Unfortunately crawling freenet via HTTP will have the main effect of
| DoSing your freenet node, because every web download takes up a thread,
| and we therefore limit parallel HTTP downloads to 24-36. Ideally you'd
| want a real FCP spider; there must be one out there somewhere.
You can download something which claims to do this from:

http://127.0.0.1:/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/spider/5//

I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum
precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an
untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely.
If you download it, and it inserts your credit card details into Freenet
and emails your mother with pictures of hard core porn, all before it
deletes your hard disk - don't blame me, you run this entirely at your
own risk.
Ian.
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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Schierl
Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 sites. Maybe because of the still very slow insert performance of fiw, which
 still takes 36 hours to successfully insert a 4 MB freesite (fuqid inserts much
 faster).

Any ideas why? I'd like to make FIW fast too ;)

mihi

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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Someone
Michael Schierl schrieb:

Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


sites. Maybe because of the still very slow insert performance of fiw, which
still takes 36 hours to successfully insert a 4 MB freesite (fuqid inserts much
faster).


Any ideas why? I'd like to make FIW fast too ;)
I get many of these (using FIW 0.08):

#11 02 ***RouteNF *removed* (Chunk 6) [42/42/42]

they can't be right as I only have 50 nodes in my routing table and a max
connections number of 100. I also get quite some of these:
java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream
	at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34)
	at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263)
	at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:218)
	at fiw.core.jobs.InsertJob.run(InsertJob.java:231)
	at fiw.core.jobs.Job.run0(Job.java:131)
	at 
fiw.core.jobs.PooledThreadProducer$PooledThread.run(PooledThreadProducer.java:97)

It also complains very often that it can't fetch an inserted chunk, while I
can fetch it without a problem through fproxy. This leads to continous insert
retries whitout FIW inserting the mapfile.
mihi
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Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet

2004-03-11 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Please provide reference to a good glossary.

 I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum
 precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an
 untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely.

Is sandbox just Linux term or does it have broader application?


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Re: [freenet-support] need a program to crawl links in freenet

2004-03-11 Thread Salah Coronya
Nicholas Sturm wrote:

Please provide reference to a good glossary.

I tried it (in a sandbox Linux account, which is absoltely the minimum
precaution anyone should take if running code downloaded from an
untrusted anonymous source) and it seems to work pretty nicely.


Is sandbox just Linux term or does it have broader application?


A sandbox is a area of limited functionality where one can control a 
programs behavior. Think of it more like a jail. Java applets (web 
applets, not Freenet) run a in sandbox. This way, if the program is 
malicious (or badly written), it can't do any damage outside the 
sandbox (in theory, anyway). If a Java applet tries to do something 
not allowed by the security policy (write a file, open a network 
connection, change the security policy, etc), Java will raise an 
exception. Note the ActiveX controls do NOT run in a sandbox.

For Linux, there was a project, Subterfugue, which could create a 
sandbox for a program, but its not currently maintained. There is also 
User-mode Linux (UML), which lets you run Linux in Linux - everything 
run the the UML environment is trapped and can't do any damage outside 
its environment.
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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Michael Schierl
Someone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I get many of these (using FIW 0.08):

 #11 02 ***RouteNF *removed* (Chunk 6) [42/42/42]

 they can't be right as I only have 50 nodes in my routing table and a max
 connections number of 100.

Hehe. That 42/42/42 (do you know Douglas Adam's Hitchhiker's guide to
the galaxy?) is just a code for bad things happend as any other
combination of at least twice 42.

In that case it means that an insert returned a DNF message which is
invalid according to the spec and thus treated as a RNF. (RFC1122
Robustness principle). Toad told me that he had fixed that but most
likely he hasn't...

 I also get quite some of these:

 java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream
   at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34)
   at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263)

Hmm. Why does fred close his connections prematurely? It's not because
you are restarting fred?

 It also complains very often that it can't fetch an inserted chunk, while I
 can fetch it without a problem through fproxy. This leads to continous insert
 retries whitout FIW inserting the mapfile.

set the default priority in advanced settings so that the mapfile is
inserted first. This should speed your insert up somehow. Then you
can disable to ignore local datastore. This will make your insert
much faster, but much less reliable as well. I don't know what FUQID
is doing, but if it does similar things, I understand that insert is
faster.

Greets mihi

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[freenet-support] Re: slowdom in freeville

2004-03-11 Thread Someone
Michael Schierl schrieb:
Hehe. That 42/42/42 (do you know Douglas Adam's Hitchhiker's guide to
the galaxy?) is just a code for bad things happend as any other
combination of at least twice 42.
In that case it means that an insert returned a DNF message which is
invalid according to the spec and thus treated as a RNF. (RFC1122
Robustness principle). Toad told me that he had fixed that but most
likely he hasn't...
Ok.

I also get quite some of these:

java.io.IOException: Premature end of stream
at fiw.fcp.FCPMessage.readMessage(FCPMessage.java:34)
at fiw.fcp.FCPConn.insertStream(FCPConn.java:263)


Hmm. Why does fred close his connections prematurely? It's not because
you are restarting fred?
No, I'm not restarting fred. Frost and fuqid also don't show errors like this.

set the default priority in advanced settings so that the mapfile is
inserted first. This should speed your insert up somehow. Then you
can disable to ignore local datastore. This will make your insert
much faster, but much less reliable as well. I don't know what FUQID
is doing, but if it does similar things, I understand that insert is
faster.
I'll give it try on the next insert.

Greets mihi
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