Re: [freenet-support] Is client cache enabled?

2010-11-06 Thread Volodya

On 06.11.2010 17:11, listen wrote:

2010/11/6 Matthew Toseland:

Somehow Robert got his client cache disabled. Please could some people check 
that their client cache is set to salted-hash (not ram), and is of a reasonable 
size? You need to check the core settings page in advanced mode. The wizard is 
supposed to set this up but it is possible there is a bug.


my client cache was set to ram, 10MiB.


For the most cases you will need to change that. Go to the settings page 
http://localhost:/config/node and change "Client cache type?" to "salt-hash" 
and "Size of the client cache?" to the size you can give Freenet on your hard drive.


Ram should be used for testing Freenet or in some cases where you may be very 
very horribly paranoid/under attack.


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Re: [freenet-support] freenet

2010-11-06 Thread cvollet
2010/10/30 Waldemar Jablonski 

> *ciao
>
> help me.the installed software, end. .. I want to open when I get this
> strange message. What should I do? I tried reinstalling, but the same
> thing*
>*   thanks
>   Waldemar Jablonski*
>
> What installer did you use?
I thought that we didn't use service with the new one. (I may be wrong, I
don't use windows)

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Re: [freenet-support] tweaking freenet

2010-11-06 Thread cvollet
2010/10/21 Daniel Stork 

> Would someone be so kind as to offer a bit of advice about tweaking
> freenet.
>
> I seriously do not understand what it is doing.
>
> Freenet is currently averaging about 500K / sec down and 130 k /sec up.
> I limited the upload to 128 k, so the uploads make sense.
>
> However,
> I have approx. 50 downloads "downloading" in frost and they are extremely
> slow, hardly moving at all.
> So I don't understand what is it doing with this enourmous amount of data
> it downloads, besides using up my bandwidth limit.
>
> Since it's downloading approx. 4 times as much as uploading every second,
> and the files in my queue are hardly moving at all
> What happens to the 3 out of 4 units which I did not request and are not
> being relayed to someone else?
> Is it just constantly rewriting the datastore? This doesn't seem very
> efficient.
>
> I understand that this may be necessary to cover what is actually
> downloaded,
> However, it took about 10 minutes to download the latest frost (on priority
> 0) at the rate of 500 k/sec this should
> have been done in 11 seconds if it was the regular internet. In contrast
> freenet downloaded approx. 55 times the amount of data
> just to get this file. Isn't this way too excessive ? I would think 5-10
> times is more than enough to cover your tracks.
>
> Afaik,  freenet doesn't report file by file bandwidth usage. The number you
see is the total output bandwidth usage, so it may be used for other
requests. Maybe we should show bandwidth usage file by file?

> Also, I don't understand why freenet refuses to decode many files for
> minutes or hours even after it's got 100%. It's totally unpredictable
> when a file at 100% will actually decode. I'm kind of suprised this hasn't
> been fixed already.
> Any chance you could fix this?
>
> Afaik (yes, again) freenet uses FEC (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_error_correction) to create the file
that you want. Maybe it's due to a bug, but I think that's the reason why it
takes some time (and some cpu cycles).

> And also, could someone explain the system of priorities and what's the
> ideal number of threads to be concurrently downloading?
> It would be great to hear something about tweaking freenet for best
> performance.
>
> I don't heard of any ideal limit, but it sure would be great to have some
(for instance to include them in the UI: "the node is currently responding
to too may request, etc.")

> Thanks a lot and sorry about the many questions
>
> You're welcome, and sorry for the approximative answers.

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Re: [freenet-support] tweaking freenet

2010-11-06 Thread Volodya

On 22.10.2010 1:21, Daniel Stork wrote:

Would someone be so kind as to offer a bit of advice about tweaking freenet.

I seriously do not understand what it is doing.

Freenet is currently averaging about 500K / sec down and 130 k /sec up.
I limited the upload to 128 k, so the uploads make sense.


Unless you explicitely state the download limit it will use 4 times as much as 
upload, so 130 * 4 = 520. I have never seen such speeds on my node, in fact 
regardless of what i put i normally see under 100K everywhere.


Do you have some very fast connections to your friends? If not what are your 
other connection settings?



However,
I have approx. 50 downloads "downloading" in frost and they are extremely slow,
hardly moving at all.
So I don't understand what is it doing with this enourmous amount of data it
downloads, besides using up my bandwidth limit.


The downloads via freenet take time due to latency, not really due to speed. 
What that means is that Freenet takes some time to find the data on the network 
(it is improving, but still not perfect). So most of the time you are not 
actually downloading data for your files.



Since it's downloading approx. 4 times as much as uploading every second,
and the files in my queue are hardly moving at all
What happens to the 3 out of 4 units which I did not request and are not being
relayed to someone else?


What is the payload percentage? You can see that on the stats page.
But i have actually wondered something like that myself. I have the synchronous 
connection, thus my limits are the same, and i always get slightly more outgoing 
than incoming traffic, but everybody else seems to be reporting it other way around.



Is it just constantly rewriting the datastore? This doesn't seem very efficient.

I understand that this may be necessary to cover what is actually downloaded,
However, it took about 10 minutes to download the latest frost (on priority 0)
at the rate of 500 k/sec this should
have been done in 11 seconds if it was the regular internet. In contrast freenet
downloaded approx. 55 times the amount of data
just to get this file. Isn't this way too excessive ? I would think 5-10 times
is more than enough to cover your tracks.

Also, I don't understand why freenet refuses to decode many files for minutes or
hours even after it's got 100%. It's totally unpredictable
when a file at 100% will actually decode. I'm kind of suprised this hasn't been
fixed already.
Any chance you could fix this?

And also, could someone explain the system of priorities and what's the ideal
number of threads to be concurrently downloading?
It would be great to hear something about tweaking freenet for best performance.

Thanks a lot and sorry about the many questions


Tried to answer to the best of my ability. Hopefully somebody else will come 
along and fill in the rest of the blanks.


   - Volodya



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Re: [freenet-support] I Like the Idea but....

2010-11-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 00:58:19 Tim Jones wrote:
> I think you need to publish a more user friendly description of the
> product and how it works. I am a fairly experienced PC/Windows user
> for many years and I made a career of data administration using
> technology. However, reading your website just makes my head spin much
> as trying to decipher Linux and trying to understand what advantages I
> gain from deploying freenet that is more and better than something
> like PGP or using proxies. 
> Regardless of one's views of the relative merits of the software
> platforms (Windows, MacOS, Linux, etc) the fact remains that we do
> live in a MS Windows world and I think that describing your product
> relative to the Windows experience would go a long way towards
> enticing users to try your product. 
> Personally, I think this approach of keeping the description and
> explanation cryptic and mystical has been the single block that Linux
> has embedded in the public perception and has drastically limited its
> adoption on a much larger scale. I see your product headed down that
> same road, a good if not outstanding product that is hamstrung by its
> own creators for lack of a focus on explaining the product to the
> prospective end-user base in a way that base can understand.
> I think developers lose sight of their audience when promoting their
> work and forget that the target audience (end-user) is largely
> ignorant of what goes on "under the hood".
> Hopefully, you will take this message as constructive and not a nag.
> In either event it's my opinion and I hope you give it more than a
> little consideration.

If you have time could you have a look at the current What is Freenet? page, I 
believe we have rewritten it somewhat since then.

Thanks.

http://freenetproject.org/whatis.html

> Best Regards,
> Tim Jones
> Sebring, Florida
> USA


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[freenet-support] tweaking freenet

2010-11-06 Thread Daniel Stork
Would someone be so kind as to offer a bit of advice about tweaking freenet.

I seriously do not understand what it is doing.

Freenet is currently averaging about 500K / sec down and 130 k /sec up.
I limited the upload to 128 k, so the uploads make sense.

However, 
I have approx. 50 downloads "downloading" in frost and they are extremely slow, 
hardly moving at all.
So I don't understand what is it doing with this enourmous amount of data it 
downloads, besides using up my bandwidth limit.

Since it's downloading approx. 4 times as much as uploading every second, 
and the files in my queue are hardly moving at all
What happens to the 3 out of 4 units which I did not request and are not being 
relayed to someone else?
Is it just constantly rewriting the datastore? This doesn't seem very efficient.

I understand that this may be necessary to cover what is actually downloaded,
However, it took about 10 minutes to download the latest frost (on priority 0) 
at the rate of 500 k/sec this should
have been done in 11 seconds if it was the regular internet. In contrast 
freenet 
downloaded approx. 55 times the amount of data
just to get this file. Isn't this way too excessive ? I would think 5-10 times 
is more than enough to cover your tracks.

Also, I don't understand why freenet refuses to decode many files for minutes 
or 
hours even after it's got 100%. It's totally unpredictable
when a file at 100% will actually decode. I'm kind of suprised this hasn't been 
fixed already.
Any chance you could fix this?

And also, could someone  explain the system of priorities and what's the ideal 
number of threads to be concurrently downloading?
It would be great to hear something about tweaking freenet for best performance.

Thanks a lot and sorry about the many questions 



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Re: [freenet-support] Straw poll: Should Freenet require Javascript?

2010-11-06 Thread [Anon] Anon User
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In <201010151629.56896.t...@amphibian.dyndns.org> Matthew Toseland 

 wrote:
>We are considering making it impossible to use Freenet without a 

browser supporting Javascript. Yes or no answers would be useful 

(feel free to make further comments). I will post a similar poll 

to FMS. I suggest somebody does Frost, I personally don't use 
Frost.
>

I say not only "NO!", but "HELL NO!".

It's bad enough there are sites I use on the regular internet that 

require it in order to function.  One of the things I've always 

liked about Freenet is the decided lack of javascript!


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Re: [freenet-support] Is client cache enabled?

2010-11-06 Thread listen
2010/11/6 Matthew Toseland :
> Somehow Robert got his client cache disabled. Please could some people check 
> that their client cache is set to salted-hash (not ram), and is of a 
> reasonable size? You need to check the core settings page in advanced mode. 
> The wizard is supposed to set this up but it is possible there is a bug.

my client cache was set to ram, 10MiB.
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[freenet-support] Is client cache enabled?

2010-11-06 Thread Matthew Toseland
Somehow Robert got his client cache disabled. Please could some people check 
that their client cache is set to salted-hash (not ram), and is of a reasonable 
size? You need to check the core settings page in advanced mode. The wizard is 
supposed to set this up but it is possible there is a bug.
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On 2010/10/15 (Oct), at 1:00 PM, Robert Hailey wrote:

On 2010/10/15 (Oct), at 9:29 AM, Volodya wrote:
There is an option in the configuration which turns on caching of  
the 'local or nearby requests', you can turn it on to speed up such  
requests. However, you should note that it will be significantly  
easier to determine what you've been downloading/viewing while that  
setting is turnt on.


I hope this helps you.

- Volodya



Yes, that is helpful. Thanks for pointing it out.

--
Robert Hailey



btw. I've activated this on my nodes and the difference is phenomenal.  
Much happier "end user experience."


Was this option disabled by default b/c of bloom-filter sharing?

I really think the argument for sniffing your store/cache is only  
relevant if the majority of nodes have this option disabled (otherwise  
popular "sites" would be cached b/c they are popular, and unpopular  
would cache b/c the requests trying to find them, no?).


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