Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Toad
One interesting point... browsers that prefetch will go straight through
the warning page, and therefore be vulnerable to web-bugs...

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 04:38:56PM -0600, tripolar wrote:
> I agree. Just last night I commented on the slow speed of freenet. After 
> reading the "README file" I found the section on tweaking mozilla. I did 
> this for both mozilla 1.5 and mozilla firebird. What a positve 
> difference it made. I am also experimenting with programs to "suck" 
> websites. For example I used one such program to download the freedom 
> engine site and its many links. Now it wasnt perfect at retrieving all 
> the links but the next time I accessed the freedom engine site through a 
> browser it was faster because many links had been pulled in already. By 
> the way, I know very little, so this really is just my 2 cents worth 
> from my experiences.
> 
> Found in README file-
> "SETTING UP A BROWSER FOR BEST PERFORMANCE
> 
> ---Mozilla and Gecko Based Browsers(ie. Netscape):
> Many browsers limit the number of simultaneous connections to something far
> too low for efficiently browsing Freenet (since Freenet pages often have
> much higher latency than web pages). This can usually be reconfigured. For
> example, for Mozilla post-1.3, go to about:config, and change the following
> settings:
> 
> network.http.max-connections  200
> network.http.max-connections-per-server   100
> network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server10
> network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy 50 
> 
> 
> 
> Tracy R Reed wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37:27PM +, Ian Clarke spake thusly:
> > 
> >
> >>So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
> >>criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be 
> >>enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >The first thing new users say is "slow". More often than ease of use or
> >installation complaints the speed is always the first thing they comment
> >on in my experience.
> >
> > 
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Re: [freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread tripolar
I agree. Just last night I commented on the slow speed of freenet. After 
reading the "README file" I found the section on tweaking mozilla. I did 
this for both mozilla 1.5 and mozilla firebird. What a positve 
difference it made. I am also experimenting with programs to "suck" 
websites. For example I used one such program to download the freedom 
engine site and its many links. Now it wasnt perfect at retrieving all 
the links but the next time I accessed the freedom engine site through a 
browser it was faster because many links had been pulled in already. By 
the way, I know very little, so this really is just my 2 cents worth 
from my experiences.

Found in README file-
"SETTING UP A BROWSER FOR BEST PERFORMANCE
---Mozilla and Gecko Based Browsers(ie. Netscape):
Many browsers limit the number of simultaneous connections to something far
too low for efficiently browsing Freenet (since Freenet pages often have
much higher latency than web pages). This can usually be reconfigured. For
example, for Mozilla post-1.3, go to about:config, and change the following
settings:
network.http.max-connections200
network.http.max-connections-per-server			100
network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server	10
network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy	50 



Tracy R Reed wrote:

On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37:27PM +, Ian Clarke spake thusly:
 

So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be 
enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.
   

The first thing new users say is "slow". More often than ease of use or
installation complaints the speed is always the first thing they comment
on in my experience.
 



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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Tracy R Reed
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 12:37:27PM +, Ian Clarke spake thusly:
> So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
> criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be 
> enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

The first thing new users say is "slow". More often than ease of use or
installation complaints the speed is always the first thing they comment
on in my experience.

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[freenet-support] Re: [freenet-dev] Usability improvement ideas

2003-10-31 Thread Tony Godshall
According to Ian Clarke,
> As the developers work hard to improve the core operation of Freenet, it 
> can be easy to forget about the more superficial, but equally important 
> aspects of Freenet, namely installation procedures, and usability for 
> newbies.
> 
> For those intimately familiar with Freenet's operation it can be 
> difficult to look at Freenet's operation from the perspective of someone 
> new to the software, and often something that seems minor and trivial to 
> a core developer, might have a significant impact on a new user's view 
> of the software.
> 
> So, this email is an invitation to anyone that has constructive 
> criticism or suggestion's for how Freenet's "first impression" can be 
> enhanced.  Topics include installation, FProxy, even the website's layout.

Installing 'freenet://' URL as a helper for popular browsers,
automatcially, with the installation of freenet.  Not as a
plug-in for every known browser, but at least the mailcap
files (that way standards-based browsers will Just Work).

Opening up the JVM requirements so it's not so complicated
to get the infrastructure needed to get freenet going.
(JGC?) 

Get Debian maintainer to update the freenet .debs (even
freenet-unstable is obsolete and broken) and fix the
dependencies it so it will Just Work (i.e. without complicated 
JVM requirements).  This would make Freenet available to the
likes of Lindows users.


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