Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-16 Thread Toad
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 02:04:24AM -0800, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> 
> I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
> me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
> not contain an estimator fieldset.  

It should get added anyway. What is the actual behaviour of the node?
Your node cannot generate estimators for itself.

> Is there a way to generate complete
> files that have all the required information?
> 
> Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
> nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
> or so.
> 
> Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
> Im trying to have the nodes work like this
> 
>   } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> a's routes}  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
>   }{
> 
> I'm hoping this configration will help connectivity a bit and reduce the
> dreaded RNFs and DNFs.
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-15 Thread Jay Oliveri
On Sunday 14 March 2004 09:35 pm, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> I'm getting way too many RNF/DNFs so any way to expand the available
> routing would be a welcome thing either node. about 60% of the time it
> doesn't even get off the originating node.  I've tried putting each
> other's node's ref into the seedfile but the nodes don't seem to want to
> use them.  As I said earlier the windows version just complains that
> there are no estimator fieldsets for the noderef and won't import it.

RNF's and DNF's occur for various reasons.  It could be the network in 
general is overloaded, or the node holding the key is specifically 
overloaded or split from the network.

However the "no estimator fieldsets" messsage sounds like a bug.. I will 
forward the question over to the dev list.

As for the rest I couldn't say.

> On the freebsd node (at the other IP number) the only way I've gotten it
> to use the other node is by making it the only entiry in the seedfile.
> This had the disadvantage that not only was is restricted to whereever
> the windows node could get to its available freenet routes, but to my
> shock, it wasn't learning about visitors as many freenet docs have
> suggested the node should be able to.  Nodes would connect and it even
> made outbound connections but it's list of available routes under the
> node status subsection still reported only one host in the routing table.
> I've ruled out firewall issues on both sides becuase both sides can
> negotiate outbound connections and receive inbound connections.  I've
> also double check in the environment and the node are reporting the
> correct WAN-side router IP numbers and access ports.

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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack
> Yes, provided they are compatible builds.  There are two freenet's
> maintained by the freenetproject; stable and unstable.  They are seperate
> networks that do not communicate with each other.

Btoh nodes are running NV 0.5, PV STABLE-1.50, BN 5074, CVS
1.90.2.50.2.101

> When you say "Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able
> to use the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
> couple hops or so", are you saying these two nodes are on different tcp/ip
> networks, or one node is from stable and another from unstable?

different TCP/IP networks

> > > > give me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the
> > > > ref does not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to
> > > > generate complete files that have all the required information?
> > > > Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use
> > > > the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
> > > > couple hops or so.
> > > >
> > > > } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> > > > a's routes  }  =-> nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
> > > > }{

nodeA and nodeB are two different freenet nodes operating at separate IP
numbers nodeA has a set of routes, a's routes and nodeB has a set of
routes b's routes.  I would like nodeA and nodeB to have a persitent
connection between each other in order to be able to use each other's
routes.

I'm getting way too many RNF/DNFs so any way to expand the available
routing would be a welcome thing either node. about 60% of the time it
doesn't even get off the originating node.  I've tried putting each
other's node's ref into the seedfile but the nodes don't seem to want to
use them.  As I said earlier the windows version just complains that there
are no estimator fieldsets for the noderef and won't import it.

On the freebsd node (at the other IP number) the only way I've gotten it
to use the other node is by making it the only entiry in the seedfile.
This had the disadvantage that not only was is restricted to whereever the
windows node could get to its available freenet routes, but to my
shock, it wasn't learning about visitors as many freenet docs have
suggested the node should be able to.  Nodes would connect and it even
made outbound connections but it's list of available routes under the node
status subsection still reported only one host in the routing table.

I've ruled out firewall issues on both sides becuase both sides can
negotiate outbound connections and receive inbound connections.  I've also
double check in the environment and the node are reporting the correct
WAN-side router IP numbers and access ports.
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Jay Oliveri
On Sunday 14 March 2004 07:39 pm, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:
> > After reading your emails for the last 2 days I have no clue what
> > you're trying to do.  You were first using stable, then unstable.  Then
> > a friend's node, then nodes on 2 different networks (i can only assume
> > stable & unstable).
> >
> > So what is it again you're trying to do?  (I dont' understand the A's
> > routes vs. B's routes argument either).
>
> get the two nodes to interoperate with each other.  I would suspect this
> could be done by adding each node's ref to the other node's seedfile

Yes, provided they are compatible builds.  There are two freenet's 
maintained by the freenetproject; stable and unstable.  They are seperate 
networks that do not communicate with each other.

When you say "Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able 
to use the nodes together to increase the available search path within a 
couple hops or so", are you saying these two nodes are on different tcp/ip 
networks, or one node is from stable and another from unstable?

> > > I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The
> > > give me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the
> > > ref does not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to
> > > generate complete files that have all the required information?
> > >
> > > Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use
> > > the nodes together to increase the available search path within a
> > > couple hops or so.
> > >
> > > Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
> > > Im trying to have the nodes work like this
> > >
> > >   } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> > > a's routes}  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
> > >   }{
>
> node a has one set of routes, b another set
> nodeA and nodeB run on separate networks
> but the goal is to have A and B permanently connect to each other so the
> A can take advnatage of B's nodes and A's nodes can take advantage of
> B's.
>
> Why is this so diifuclt to understand, what am I not explainging right?

Your use of the word "network" is ambiguous, since it could mean a tcp/ip 
network or a freenet, so I'm asking for more information; stop me if you 
feel you're not getting your moneys worth in this support forum.

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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack


On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Jay Oliveri wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 16:34:38 -0500
> From: Jay Oliveri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's
> routing table?
>
> After reading your emails for the last 2 days I have no clue what you're
> trying to do.  You were first using stable, then unstable.  Then a friend's
> node, then nodes on 2 different networks (i can only assume stable &
> unstable).

> So what is it again you're trying to do?  (I dont' understand the A's routes
> vs. B's routes argument either).

get the two nodes to interoperate with each other.  I would suspect this
could be done by adding each node's ref to the other node's seedfile

> > I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
> > me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
> > not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to generate complete
> > files that have all the required information?
> >
> > Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
> > nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
> > or so.
> >
> > Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
> > Im trying to have the nodes work like this
> >
> > } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> > a's routes  }  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
> > }{
> >

node a has one set of routes, b another set
nodeA and nodeB run on separate networks
but the goal is to have A and B permanently connect to each other so the A
can take advnatage of B's nodes and A's nodes can take advantage of B's.

Why is this so diifuclt to understand, what am I not explainging right?
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Re: [freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Jay Oliveri
After reading your emails for the last 2 days I have no clue what you're 
trying to do.  You were first using stable, then unstable.  Then a friend's 
node, then nodes on 2 different networks (i can only assume stable & 
unstable).

So what is it again you're trying to do?  (I dont' understand the A's routes 
vs. B's routes argument either).

On Sunday 14 March 2004 05:04 am, Christopher Brian Jack wrote:
> I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
> me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
> not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to generate complete
> files that have all the required information?
>
> Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
> nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
> or so.
>
> Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
> Im trying to have the nodes work like this
>
>   } a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
> a's routes}  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
>   }{
>
> I'm hoping this configration will help connectivity a bit and reduce the
> dreaded RNFs and DNFs.

-- 
Jay Oliveri
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www.sf.net/users/joliveri
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[freenet-support] How do I add node refs to my node's routing table?

2004-03-14 Thread Christopher Brian Jack

I am having trouble trying to interconnect friends' freenodes.  The give
me their node's reference but I keep getting complaints that the ref does
not contain an estimator fieldset.  Is there a way to generate complete
files that have all the required information?

Each node has different routing tables so I'd like to be able to use the
nodes together to increase the available search path within a couple hops
or so.

Any way to do this so that the connections stay permanent?
Im trying to have the nodes work like this

} a.b.c.dA.B.C.D {
a's routes  }  <-= nodeA <--> nodeB <-=  {  b's routes
}{

I'm hoping this configration will help connectivity a bit and reduce the
dreaded RNFs and DNFs.
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