Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-23 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Sorry, local Americanism, I guess. If is a smile that has an artificial appearance because the corner of the mouth don't seem to know where they should be. Usually carries a derogatory implication to the observer, perhaps "forced grim" would carry the idea. -- Sorry. Zenon Panoussis wrote:

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-23 Thread Zenon Panoussis
Nicholas Sturm wrote: Has anyone figured out what he had for lunch. The schmerk is almost missing in his "salute" picture in the USA Today shot by AFP. Does that stand for Air Force Photograph. I didn't say gone, just "almost" missing. What's a schmerk? Agence France Presse. Z -- Framtiden är

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Nicholas Sturm
Anyway, long live king bush Has anyone figured out what he had for lunch. The schmerk is almost missing in his "salute" picture in the USA Today shot by AFP. Does that stand for Air Force Photograph. I didn't say gone, just "almost" missing. ___

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Paul
OTOH woulden't the open proxy be an isp? The proxy is really just a router between two networks. The networks don't need to have the same lower level protocalls... The other differene would be that no one is paying him for the service. But then comes in the free ISPs of the dot com era. Given the p

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Zenon Panoussis
Toad wrote: They are not indexed by google because by default fproxy sends a robots.txt indicating that it shouldn't be spidered. Aaah, I see. That explains S' comment too. Well, current legislation does not require me to learn java, but it does not forbid me to either ;) [prosecutor's block orders

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Zenon Panoussis
Toad wrote: They are not indexed by google because by default fproxy sends a robots.txt indicating that it shouldn't be spidered. Aaah, I see. That explains S' comment too. Well, current legislation does not require me to learn java, but it does not forbid me to either ;) [prosecutor's block orders

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Toad
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 03:35:40PM +0200, Zenon Panoussis wrote: > > Toad wrote: > > >>Well, this contradics what you just wrote above. If you are right > >>on this point, then your fears about thousands of users leeching > >>and burdening freenet without giving anything back are unfounded > >>al

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Zenon Panoussis
Toad wrote: Well, this contradics what you just wrote above. If you are right on this point, then your fears about thousands of users leeching and burdening freenet without giving anything back are unfounded already because of this, even disregarding my arguments above. Or vice versa. Of course, if

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Toad
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 01:52:05PM +0200, Zenon Panoussis wrote: > >People have run public nodes before, but Google never indexed them > >beyond the main Web Interface page, so their audience consisted of > >people who a) were already Freenet users and b) knew exactly what to > >search for in Googl

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-22 Thread Zenon Panoussis
S wrote: I don't really agree with the idea that such a pr0xy would bring exposure or users to Freenet. Joe Surfer, upon finding your gatewayed content in Google, is going to click through, access the content, and move on, not realizing that he's ventured beyond the confines of the normal web. Usef

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-21 Thread David Masover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "S" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) makes some valid points. I didn't feel like quoting the whole thing, but... They are all moot if there's a big banner inserted onto every page which points to an explanation of freenet (as well as a disclaimer somewhere), and s

Re: [freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-21 Thread S
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 02:06:51 +0200 Zenon Panoussis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would really appreciate your thoughts on these issues, especially > pointers to aspects I've missed. I don't really agree with the idea that such a pr0xy would bring exposure or users to Freenet. Joe Surfer, upon fi

[freenet-support] In need of opinions and ideas

2004-07-21 Thread Zenon Panoussis
The whole load/logging/key harvesting discussion I started here a couple of days ago originated from my wish to make freenet searchable, especially to the non-freenet world. So I installed an open p r o x y in order to harvest keys, so that I could set up a search engine. What I only realised when