Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-04 Thread Lenny
well, this is what I got: bypass the firewall (just 2 PCs connected via the switch): iperf -c server-ip -t 60 -M 500 380Mb/s iperf -c server-ip -t 60 -M 500 -d 477Mb/s 422 Mb/s comparing to the tests with bce driver: iperf -c server-ip -t 60 -M 500 300Mb/s 52 -85kpps iperf -c server-ip -t 60

FW: FW: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-04 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko
From: Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:04 AM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-03 Thread Lenny
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Tim Dressel tjdres...@gmail.com wrote: Install on both sides, not on pfsense. i.e. install on a machine on the WAN side, and on the LAN site. Or if you are testing between LAN and an OPT interface, put a machine on both subnets and test that way. iPerf on

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-03 Thread Tim Dressel
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Tim Dressel tjdres...@gmail.com wrote: Install on both sides, not on pfsense. i.e. install on a machine on the WAN side, and on the LAN site. Or if you are testing between LAN and an OPT

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-02 Thread Lenny
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 2:15 AM, David Rees dree...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the time, the real issue is that scp has to encrypt the data on one end and decrypt it on the other - that takes a lot of CPU power that could otherwise be used for tossing packets around. -Dave

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-02 Thread Tim Dressel
Install on both sides, not on pfsense. i.e. install on a machine on the WAN side, and on the LAN site. Or if you are testing between LAN and an OPT interface, put a machine on both subnets and test that way. iPerf on pfsense will not give you a throughput of the firewall (at least nothing that

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-08-02 Thread Lenny
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Tim Dressel tjdres...@gmail.com wrote: Install on both sides, not on pfsense. i.e. install on a machine on the WAN side, and on the LAN site. Or if you are testing between LAN and an OPT interface, put a machine on both subnets and test that way. iPerf on

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Paul Mansfield
Lenny wrote: So do you have any other ideas? I NEED this to work. just for a sanity check, could you boot a live linux CD and make various tests with that (iptraf, timed netcat etc)? - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Lenny
Paul Mansfield wrote: Lenny wrote: So do you have any other ideas? I NEED this to work. just for a sanity check, could you boot a live linux CD and make various tests with that (iptraf, timed netcat etc)? - To

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Paul Mansfield
Lenny wrote: But to my biggest shame I'd never made those tests. Is there a chance you'd give me some pointers? Thanks. boot a live linux disk like ubuntu try a speed test website. for network testing... set up the interfaces create a 1G test file, e.g. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Lenny
Paul Mansfield wrote: boot a live linux disk like ubuntu try a speed test website. for network testing... set up the interfaces create a 1G test file, e.g. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random bs=1024 count=1048576 then use time scp /tmp/random otherhost:/tmp/blah or use netcat -l -p 1234 on

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Rainer Duffner
Paul Mansfield schrieb: boot a live linux disk like ubuntu try a speed test website. for network testing... set up the interfaces create a 1G test file, e.g. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random bs=1024 count=1048576 then use time scp /tmp/random otherhost:/tmp/blah or use netcat -l -p

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Lenny
Rainer Duffner wrote: Paul Mansfield schrieb: boot a live linux disk like ubuntu try a speed test website. for network testing... set up the interfaces create a 1G test file, e.g. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random bs=1024 count=1048576 then use time scp /tmp/random otherhost:/tmp/blah

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Jaime Díaz
I may be wrong, but his problem is pps (packets per second). That's not the same as being able to download a large file. Unfortunately. How does one generate a large a mount of (small) packets with useful an genuine traffic? actually you're right. But I think there was a tool for that.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Paul Mansfield
Rainer Duffner wrote: I may be wrong, but his problem is pps (packets per second). That's not the same as being able to download a large file. Unfortunately. How does one generate a large a mount of (small) packets with useful and genuine traffic? set the MTU to a low value (200?) so that

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Bill Marquette
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Paul Mansfieldit-admin-pfse...@taptu.com wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: I may be wrong, but his problem is pps (packets per second). That's not the same as being able to download a large file. Unfortunately. How does one generate a large a mount of (small)

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Tim Dressel
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Rainer Duffnerrai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Paul Mansfield schrieb: boot a live linux disk like ubuntu try a speed test website. for network testing... set up the interfaces create a 1G test file, e.g. dd if=/dev/urandom of=/tmp/random bs=1024

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread Keenan Tims
then use time scp /tmp/random otherhost:/tmp/blah or use netcat -l -p 1234 on one to create a listen and on other time cat /tmp/random | netcat -p 1234 otherhost to see how long it takes scp doesn't perform well over fast links, it's not really a good tool for testing. I can barely get

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-31 Thread David Rees
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Keenan Timskt...@gotroot.ca wrote: then use time scp /tmp/random otherhost:/tmp/blah or use netcat -l -p 1234 on one to create a listen and on other time cat /tmp/random | netcat -p 1234 otherhost to see how long it takes scp doesn't perform well over fast

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: That's all understandable when speaking of errors and packet loss, but would it really cause the CPU hit 100% at 50kpps? both em0 and em1?

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: *From:* Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] *Sent:* July 29, 2009 3:38 PM Evgeny Yurchenko wrote: I would try to swap cables and interfaces in config and see errors. Do they go to em0?

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: 10kpps - 20% CPU 50kpps - 100% CPU looks like we have some logic here. I've looked at my graphs - there is no relation between cpu load and pps. Do you have this relation? Not talking about your

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: I have in the past, not with the recent setup. As far as I understood it doesn't help much in the latest releases of FreeBSD. It can if you're getting killed by interrupts but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Chris Buechler cbuech...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 3:25 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: I have in the past, not with the recent setup. As far as I understood it doesn't help much in the latest releases of FreeBSD. It can if

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko
From: Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] Sent: July 30, 2009 3:28 AM On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: From:

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: Weird, I do not have any relation between cpu and bandwidth/packets: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4127/bandwidth.png http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8375/cpu.png

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko
From: Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] Sent: July 30, 2009 9:16 AM On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: Weird, I do not have

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: My traffic spike is between em and bge interfaces... I have another box with two bge interfaces with load peaking at 250Mb/s and packets 24kpps and there I have cpu-bandwidth relation. If you do not mind

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:25 PM, Evgeny Yurchenko evgeny.yurche...@frontline.ca wrote: My traffic spike is between em and bge interfaces... I have another box with two bge interfaces with load peaking at 250Mb/s and packets 24kpps and there I have cpu-bandwidth relation. If you do not mind

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: bce0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2) mem 0xc800-0xc9ff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 Are things any better/different if you use the onboard Broadcom NICs instead?

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: bce0: Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 1000Base-T (B2) mem 0xc800-0xc9ff irq 18 at device 0.0 on pci4 Are things any better/different if you

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Chris Buechler
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I've never tried with this server. Only with the old one and then the interrupt was pretty high. But I remember you and the other guys advised against using Broadcom in favor of Intel. Are you suspecting the NIC

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Lenny
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I've never tried with this server. Only with the old one and then the interrupt was pretty high. But I remember you and the other guys

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-30 Thread Adam Van Ornum
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:24:27 +0300 From: five2one.le...@gmail.com To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps. On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:21 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
Hi guys, I know how sick of me you are by now, but I've had some developments here and now I'm stuck again. So, FINALLY I convinced the management to buy a new server. We bought an IBM x3550 with 2 Quad Core CPUs E5420 and 2GB RAM PC2-5300 667MHz. Not just that, we bought 2 of them ( we need the

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
I have forgotten and am too lazy to go through all my emails again to read, but have you tried standard intel server NIC's for this? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention. The NIC is the same one: Dual Intel PCI-X. Lenny. Curtis LaMasters wrote: I have forgotten and am too lazy to go through all my emails again to read, but have you tried standard intel server NIC's for this? Curtis LaMasters

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Not sure what your talking about with top posting. I just replied to the list. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Eugen Leitleu...@leitl.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:33:19AM -0500, Curtis LaMasters wrote:

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread David Burgess
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention. The NIC is the same one: Dual Intel PCI-X. Have you ruled out your switches as bottleneck? db - To unsubscribe,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Jaime Díaz
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, I checked sysctl net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops and it's 0. On the interfaces I see that em0(outside) has 0 errors, but on the em1(inside) there are 3666587/0. 6 of the CPUs(cores) are usually 100% idle, while the

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
I did it half a year ago, but yes, without the pfSense, Alteon was able to deal with all the load. David Burgess wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Oh yeah, sorry, forgot to mention. The NIC is the same one: Dual Intel PCI-X. Have you

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
Just like I answered previously, without the pfSense Alteon was able to handle the load without problems. Cisco switch also didn't have any errors on the interface. Plus, I only started to see errors, when the high load began and at that same time I also saw some packet loss on the firewall.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Lenny, Do you have commercial support on these box's? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Just like I answered previously, without the pfSense Alteon was able to handle the load

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Just like I answered previously, without the pfSense Alteon was able to handle the load without problems. Cisco switch also didn't have any errors on the interface. Plus, I only started to see errors, when the high load

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
No, it's actually automatic on both sides. But would it be the reason for the CPU to raise this high? Should I input a higher value in kthreads of em driver? Chris Buechler wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Just like I answered previously,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
Well, I believe, a standard support of NBD. Except for the NIC, which was bought on ebay. Curtis LaMasters wrote: Lenny, Do you have commercial support on these box's? Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Curtis LaMasters
Who is the guy that runs some of the Fox websites. I believe he is in this area as far as PPS. Maybe he could shed some light though he may be only available via the Forums. Curtis LaMasters http://www.curtis-lamasters.com http://www.builtnetworks.com On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:00 PM,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Jaime Díaz
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: No, it's actually automatic on both sides. But would it be the reason for the CPU to raise this high? Should I input a higher value in kthreads of em driver? Try to fix speed and duplex both on the switch and the pfsense

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko
From: Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] Sent: July 29, 2009 11:31 AM By the way, I checked sysctl net.inet.ip.intr_queue_drops and it's 0. On the interfaces I see that em0(outside) has 0 errors, but on the em1(inside) there are 3666587/0. 6 of the

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Lenny
Evgeny Yurchenko wrote: ** I would try to swap cables and interfaces in config and see errors. Do they go to em0? stay on em1? It's pointless trying to fix tcp/ip without eliminating problem on media. Eugene. That's all understandable when speaking of errors and

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Evgeny Yurchenko
From: Lenny [mailto:five2one.le...@gmail.com] Sent: July 29, 2009 3:38 PM Evgeny Yurchenko wrote: I would try to swap cables and interfaces in config and see errors. Do they go to

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-07-29 Thread Chris Buechler
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Lennyfive2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: That's all understandable when speaking of errors and packet loss, but would it really cause the CPU hit 100% at 50kpps? both em0 and em1? By the way, it worked for 3 weeks with regular load (about 10kpps) and the CPU was

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-14 Thread Lenny
Thanks for all the suggestions, guys. Anyway, I found it very interesting that the new snapshots have yandex driver in them, so I decided to try it. Of course, as I don't have the new server yet, I had to try on my old IBM x335. But here are a couple of things that wouldn't let me try it: with 2

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-14 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:47 PM, Scott Ullrich sullr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Dimitri Rodis dimit...@integritasystems.com wrote: My understanding is that Giant lock is gone from the FreeBSD network stack in 8:

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Lenny
Hi again, sorry to wake an old thread, but this is still an issue for me. I was offered a Dell R200 server today, which comes with a single Xeon x3220 2.4GHz Quad Core CPU. (I understand it's a repacked Q6600 or something). I was wondering if this would be sufficient for my needs. The better

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Jostein Elvaker Haande
Lenny wrote: I was offered a Dell R200 server today, which comes with a single Xeon x3220 2.4GHz Quad Core CPU. (I understand it's a repacked Q6600 or something). I was wondering if this would be sufficient for my needs. I use a R200 at work for our pfSense, and we've had no issues with it.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Lenny
Hi, thanks for answering, but I guess you didn't read the whole thread. I don't blame you, since it's a zillion posts:) Anyway, I need it for a website, where I have about 300Mb traffic, which is around 150kpps, and I need some CPU power to spare. IBM x336 with dual Xeon 3.6GHz could only handle

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi again, sorry to wake an old thread, but this is still an issue for me. I was offered a Dell R200 server today, which comes with a single Xeon x3220 2.4GHz Quad Core CPU. (I understand it's a repacked Q6600 or

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Rainer Duffner
Bill Marquette schrieb: Ask the vendors for eval gear and make sure it supports the load before you buy. AFAIK, SUN still provides eval-systems for free. I would evaluate one of the new X2270 with the Nehalem Xeons. This should provide a 50% boost even on 5400-series Xeons. Also, they

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: AFAIK, SUN still provides eval-systems for free. I would evaluate one of the new X2270 with the Nehalem Xeons. This should provide a 50% boost even on 5400-series Xeons. Also, they use Intel NICs, IIRC. The

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Paul Mansfield
Rainer Duffner wrote: AFAIK, SUN still provides eval-systems for free. I would evaluate one of the new X2270 with the Nehalem Xeons. This should provide a 50% boost even on 5400-series Xeons. Also, they use Intel NICs, IIRC. we've got a shiny Dell R710 with twin L5520 Xeon-EPs, very nice;

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Bill McIlhargey Jr
Sounds like over kill for pfsense! :D Message sent from my iPhone Bill McIlhargey Jr COMPUTERONIX, LLC 978.500.5936 supp...@compute-ronix.com www.compute-ronix.com On May 13, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Paul Mansfield it-admin-pfse...@taptu.com wrote: Rainer Duffner wrote: AFAIK, SUN still

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Bill McIlhargey Jr b...@mcilhargey.com wrote: Sounds like over kill for pfsense!  :D Message sent from my iPhone Bill McIlhargey Jr COMPUTERONIX, LLC 978.500.5936 supp...@compute-ronix.com www.compute-ronix.com It's only overkill if you don't need the

RE: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Dimitri Rodis
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 4:13 PM To: support@pfsense.com Subject: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps. On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Bill McIlhargey Jr b...@mcilhargey.com wrote: Sounds like over kill for pfsense!  :D Message sent from my iPhone Bill

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-05-13 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Dimitri Rodis dimit...@integritasystems.com wrote: My understanding is that Giant lock is gone from the FreeBSD network stack in 8: http://unix.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/FreeBSD/arch/2009-04/msg00075.html PF is still protected by one giant lock and does not

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-14 Thread Paul Mansfield
Chris Buechler wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, first of all, thanks for all the support! Anyway, unfortunately, after all the hell I've been through with this, our CEO is not interested in buying a new server:( heh.. How about sorry,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-13 Thread Lenny
*Subject:* Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps. Well, actually, it's not the NICs that pushed me away from this server, but the expansion slots. I intend to insert my dual port Intel, and it's PCI-X, but the Sun only has PCI-e, so it was no good. Also, today, looking on ebay

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-13 Thread Rainer Duffner
Am 13.04.2009 um 12:13 schrieb Lenny: Hi guys, first of all, thanks for all the support! Anyway, unfortunately, after all the hell I've been through with this, our CEO is not interested in buying a new server:( But let's put all the smart decisions aside as I have to figure out what can I

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-13 Thread Lenny
Well, I succeeded in installing m0n0wall before I saw the limitations of it. Although I did have to use the IDE drive, and not the SCSI. But would you say it would take care of the traffic I have? OpenBSD scares me a bit:) Regarding the iptables stuff, weird as it may sound - the CEO said that

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-13 Thread RB
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 06:53, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: OpenBSD scares me a bit:) It shouldn't, really. The initial installer dialog is awful, but once you get past it and get stuff running, it's about as smooth and seamless as any good BSD setup. For that matter, neither pf nor

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-04-13 Thread Chris Buechler
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, first of all, thanks for all the support! Anyway, unfortunately, after all the hell I've been through with this, our CEO is not interested in buying a new server:( heh.. How about sorry, but there is no other

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Mansfield
Lenny wrote: Also, today, looking on ebay, I realized that it's not such an easy task - to find a modern server with a dual core AMD (second generation) and at least 1 PCI-X slot. The same is with Intel. And I already have 4 PCI-X cards, so I'd rather use them. we've found the Tyan 5391

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-24 Thread Bill Marquette
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Vick Khera vi...@khera.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: I got offered a Sun Fire X2200 with Opteron Dual Core 2210(that's 1.8GHz). Will that do it? (for ~150kpps) That's a little slower than what I use in prod

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-24 Thread Lenny
Well, actually, it's not the NICs that pushed me away from this server, but the expansion slots. I intend to insert my dual port Intel, and it's PCI-X, but the Sun only has PCI-e, so it was no good. Also, today, looking on ebay, I realized that it's not such an easy task - to find a modern

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-23 Thread Bill Marquette
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: It's 530 (bytes?) (and yet for 50kpps I had around 150Mb of traffic. Is this possible?) http://www.ccievault.net/index.php/tools says it's possible --Bill

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-23 Thread Lenny
Right, sorry, forgot to multiply by 8:) Anyway, thank you for all the support, I guess I should search for the new server then. Lenny. Bill Marquette wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 12:33 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: It's 530 (bytes?) (and yet for 50kpps I had around

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-23 Thread Lenny
I got offered a Sun Fire X2200 with Opteron Dual Core 2210(that's 1.8GHz). Will that do it? (for ~150kpps) Lenny. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:59 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Right, sorry, forgot to multiply by 8:) Anyway, thank you for all the support, I guess I should

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-23 Thread Vick Khera
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: I got offered a Sun Fire X2200 with Opteron Dual Core 2210(that's 1.8GHz). Will that do it? (for ~150kpps) Double check the NICs in that box. I believe they're broadcom and nvidia (yes, Sun does a mix and match on the same

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-23 Thread Scott Ullrich
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: I got offered a Sun Fire X2200 with Opteron Dual Core 2210(that's 1.8GHz). Will that do it? (for ~150kpps) Stick with boxes that feature EM (Intel) NICS. Scott

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, snip Now, for the bad part. I got to a total of almost 50kpps, and that was via 70% CPU. Which probably means that at about 70kpps or so I'd hit 100%. Which actually was a lot like what you said about Xeons (you

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Lenny
Hi Bill, ok, thanks. So as I understand it, in my production environment I will not be able to get more than say 150-200kpps even if I had the best CPU available on the market today? Which, by the way, equals around 450-600Mb in my case. And that is for dual port NIC, of course. Also, I

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, ok, thanks. So as I understand it, in my production environment I will not be able to get more than say 150-200kpps even if I had the best CPU available on the You should be able to hit much more than that.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
BTW, whats your average packet size? --Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail: support-h...@pfsense.com Commercial support available - https://portal.pfsense.org

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Lenny
sorry, you got me there:) how do I check that? Bill Marquette wrote: BTW, whats your average packet size? --Bill - To unsubscribe, e-mail: support-unsubscr...@pfsense.com For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Lenny
here you go. Are those CPUs close to you old Xeons? Copyright (c) 1992-2008 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
I believe so. The newer Core designs have lower Ghz ratings. Any chance you know the models? I'm not seeing the VTX feature in your dmesg, which makes me think it's not a 5xxx series CPU (which would get you more throughput). --Bill On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Lenny

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bill Marquette bill.marque...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, you got me there:) how do I check that? Bill Marquette wrote: BTW, whats your average packet size? Easiest way to get in the

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, you got me there:) how do I check that? Bill Marquette wrote: BTW, whats your average packet size? Easiest way to get in the ballpark should be to: tcpdump -w /tmp/pps.pcap -i WAN -c 1 substitute WAN for

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Chris Buechler
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Bill Marquette bill.marque...@gmail.com wrote: I believe so.  The newer Core designs have lower Ghz ratings.  Any chance you know the models?  I'm not seeing the VTX feature in your dmesg, which makes me think it's not a 5xxx series CPU (which would get you

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Bill Marquette
On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Chris Buechler c...@pfsense.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Bill Marquette bill.marque...@gmail.com wrote: I believe so.  The newer Core designs have lower Ghz ratings.  Any chance you know the models?  I'm not seeing the VTX feature in your dmesg,

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-22 Thread Lenny
It's 530 (bytes?) (and yet for 50kpps I had around 150Mb of traffic. Is this possible?) Bill Marquette wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Bill Marquette bill.marque...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: sorry, you got me

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-21 Thread Lenny
Hi Bill, so I followed your advise and disabled the hyperthreading in the BIOS (No APIC settings there). So here's what's happening. First of all, I realized how dumb I am, since I always looked only on the outside of the wan interface when watching the throughput, so all this time it

Re: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread five2one . lenny
Hi, ok, I'm back with some tests and results. I read a lot about the em driver settings, and this is what I did: in /etc/sysctl.conf I added: dev.em.0.rx_processing_limit=1600 dev.em.1.rx_processing_limit=1600 although I also tried -1 and some smaller values. in /boot/loader.conf I added:

Re: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread five2one . lenny
Also, while searching the net for the emX taskq solution, I read that few people are successfully running the modified em driver from Yandex. This is their README: RX queue is being processed w/more than one thread. Use sysctl dev.em.X.rx_kthreads to alter number of threads. TX interrupts has

Re: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Ermal Luçi
You would have to build a kernel yourself without the em/ixgbe modules to be able to use yandex driver. Ever checked if you have MSI enabled on your motherboard and what happens if you disable it? On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 4:27 PM, five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Also, while searching the net for

Re: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 7:32 AM, five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, ok, I'm back with some tests and results. I read a lot about the em driver settings, and this is what I did: in /etc/sysctl.conf I added: dev.em.0.rx_processing_limit=1600 dev.em.1.rx_processing_limit=1600 although I

Re: Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM, five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: So the question is, should I go for it? Will it help me in any way? I mean, if I have 2 Xeon CPUs and Hyper Threading enabled, I can actually divide it into 4 threads, right? Don't use hyperthreading. It's likely to cause you

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Lenny
Hi Bill, thanks for answering. a couple of questions: I'm gonna disable hyperthreading tomorrow, but tell me, should I do it in BIOS and just boot it up, without any change(reinstall)? or should I use this method: FreeBSD supports hyperthreading on Intel CPU's on the i386 platform.

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Lenny
Hi, ok, thanks. Regarding MSI - I never checked, but as far as I remember the BIOS settings - I never saw it there. I'll check tomorrow. thanks, Lenny. Ermal Luçi wrote: You would have to build a kernel yourself without the em/ixgbe modules to be able to use yandex driver. Ever

Re: [pfSense Support] Re: Can't get more than 15kpps.

2009-03-18 Thread Bill Marquette
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Lenny five2one.le...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Bill, thanks for answering. a couple of questions: I'm gonna disable hyperthreading tomorrow, but tell me, should I do it in BIOS and just boot it up, All our older Intel machines had it disabled in BIOS. The

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