Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-10 Thread Ray_Net
David E. Ross wrote on 10/07/2015 02:26: -- How to feature-sniff instead of browser-sniff How to feature-sniff for IE, Chrome, Safari and Opera ? Where there is no gecko there :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-10 Thread WaltS48
On 07/10/2015 03:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 10/07/2015 02:26: -- How to feature-sniff instead of browser-sniff How to feature-sniff for IE, Chrome, Safari and Opera ? Where there is no gecko there :-) Is a UA needed if the sites feature sniff? -- Kubuntu 14.10 | KDE

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/10/2015 5:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote: On 07/10/2015 03:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 10/07/2015 02:26: -- How to feature-sniff instead of browser-sniff How to feature-sniff for IE, Chrome, Safari and Opera ? Where there is no gecko there :-) Is a UA needed if the sites

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/10/2015 12:45 AM, Ray_Net wrote: David E. Ross wrote on 10/07/2015 02:26: -- How to feature-sniff instead of browser-sniff How to feature-sniff for IE, Chrome, Safari and Opera ? Where there is no gecko there :-) Feature sniffing is independent of user agent. Whether Gecko is

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-10 Thread NFN Smith
David E. Ross wrote: The link Read More about Gecko on the Gecko is Gecko page at http://geckoisgecko.org/ is a link to a Wikipedia article about Gecko, which was updated less than two weeks ago. You can edit that Wikipedia to eliminate obsolete information. The other links at Gecko is Gecko

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread Daniel
On 9/07/2015 4:34 AM, John Duncan wrote: Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in this circumstance? Yes, you could,

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread Daniel
On 9/07/2015 7:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote on 07/07/2015 09:55: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 23:40: On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here:

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel wrote on 09/07/2015 08:30: On 9/07/2015 7:43 AM, Ray_Net wrote: Ray_Net wrote on 07/07/2015 09:55: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 23:40: On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel wrote on 09/07/2015 08:37: On 9/07/2015 4:34 AM, John Duncan wrote: Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread NFN Smith
Ray_Net wrote: Ray. now that you can get to the required site (skynet!! Are you working on Terminator or something?? ;-P ) , can you tell the Site Manager, or whomever, to start sniffing for Gecko, rather than for Firefox, and direct them to .. http://geckoisgecko.org/ Hmmm, ten different

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/9/2015 12:06 PM, NFN Smith wrote [in part]: Ray_Net wrote: Ray. now that you can get to the required site (skynet!! Are you working on Terminator or something?? ;-P ) , can you tell the Site Manager, or whomever, to start sniffing for Gecko, rather than for Firefox, and direct them to

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 6:09 AM, John Duncan wrote: EE wrote: Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum Opera uses

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Daniel
On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in this

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 6:09 AM, John Duncan wrote: EE wrote: Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread John Duncan
Daniel wrote: On 8/07/2015 5:55 AM, John Duncan wrote: Snip To fix this, couldn't we try always reporting the Firefox/x.x bit at the end of the UA string to deal with invalid sniffing? or is that not the issue in this circumstance? Yes, you could, John, but then no-one will ever know about

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-08 Thread Ray_Net
Ray_Net wrote on 07/07/2015 09:55: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 23:40: On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread Ray_Net
WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 23:40: On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread EE
Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum Opera uses Webkit, so why would a sniffer accept it by looking

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread John Duncan
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/5/2015 11:26 PM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey This is the result of invalid user-agent sniffing. See my

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread John Duncan
EE wrote: Daniel wrote: and, Jonathan and others, just FYI, it's my belief that if the sniffers sniffed for the term Gecko rather than the actual name then they would accept Firefox, SeaMonkey and Opera (and probably others), at a minimum Opera uses Webkit, so why would a sniffer accept it by

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread Daniel
On 7/07/2015 1:49 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:04:30 -0400, Jonathan N. Little lws4...@gmail.com wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:26:19 +0200, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: A site,

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-07 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel wrote on 07/07/2015 12:16: On 7/07/2015 1:49 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:04:30 -0400, Jonathan N. Little lws4...@gmail.com wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:26:19 +0200, Ray_Net

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:26:19 +0200, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey Seamonkey is not a commonly

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread WaltS48
On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey Which site directs you there? Getting it fixed to work with SeaMonkey seems like the priority. Browser Happy

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread Ray_Net
WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey Which site directs you there? http://www.skynet.be/fr

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread Jonathan N. Little
Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 09:04:30 -0400, Jonathan N. Little lws4...@gmail.com wrote: Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote: On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:26:19 +0200, Ray_Net tbrraymond.schmit...@tbrscarlet.be wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/5/2015 11:26 PM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey This is the result of invalid user-agent sniffing. See my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.shtml. --

Re: Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread WaltS48
On 07/06/2015 05:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote: WaltS48 wrote on 06/07/2015 15:53: On 07/06/2015 02:26 AM, Ray_Net wrote: A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey Which site directs you there?

Again SeaMonkey is fully unknown

2015-07-06 Thread Ray_Net
A site, telling me that my browser is not up-to-date direct me here: http://browsehappy.com/?locale=fr Where in cannot find SeaMonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org