Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Mark Hansen wrote: On 1/31/2010 8:09 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: Just want to keep making the point not everyone desires tabs. And make sure us people that don't, have the ability to customize the way we want. I may be the only one on the groups that does, but there are most likely unspoken

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn the tab nonsense off. You

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Ray_Net wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: Funny how things change. everyone now has to emulate Internet Explorer to keep up. (Not necessarily the way it works under the hood.) Well, one difference is that many people nowdays don't use any desktop email client any more

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Phillip Jones schrieb: I have tabs turned off for now. But everything opens in new windows (which is better than tabs.) I'd like for it to re-use the current window. I know on SM 1.1.18 there were certain sites that forced new windows. but most would reuse the same window.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: ...hmmnn...newsgrouping is my biggest reason for wanting an integrated suite - best way to focus on information exchange with my hobbies. I fully agree, and a number of other SeaMonkey users probably do as well, I just wanted to explain why a large number

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread Leonidas Jones
»Q« wrote: Innews:eeidnfitt56q4vjwnz2dnuvz_gcdn...@mozilla.org, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: NoOp schrieb: Really? And early versions of Netscape were just simple browsers? I still have both Mosaic and Netscape on disk, including a version of the first Netscape w/support license. I

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread NoOp
On 01/31/2010 08:09 AM, Phillip Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jonespjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn the tab nonsense

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-31 Thread BJ
Leonidas Jones wrote: »Q« wrote: Innews:eeidnfitt56q4vjwnz2dnuvz_gcdn...@mozilla.org, Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote: NoOp schrieb: Really? And early versions of Netscape were just simple browsers? I still have both Mosaic and Netscape on disk, including a version of the first Netscape

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 1/30/2010 1:03 AM, Lou typed the following: Russell wrote: As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x,

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Robert Kaiser
Russell schrieb: I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors' decision with the Firefox crowd to justify Mozilla supporting a second browser project, and they then agreed that Seamonkey would only continue as an integrated suite, and that's the only way users will be able to use it (fatal

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rinaldi J. Montessi wrote: BeeNeR wrote: snip Absolutely. That is just one of the reasons I've used Netscape, Mozilla, and now SeaMonkey. Yes. When did the integration take place? Netscape version 3.0 or so? The first version I used was Netscape 3.0.a.Gold which I had to pay $35.00 Buck

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Benoit Renard
Russell wrote: The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but that it must be an ‘all or nothing' suite. So if you need to use another email client then it will just screw up your whole way of working. I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors'

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell schrieb: I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors' decision with the Firefox crowd to justify Mozilla supporting a second browser project, and they then agreed that Seamonkey would only continue as an integrated suite, and that's the only way users will be

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Bill Davidsen
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Russell schrieb: I'm convinced that this was a ‘behind the doors' decision with the Firefox crowd to justify Mozilla supporting a second browser project, and they then agreed that Seamonkey would only continue as an integrated suite, and that's the only way

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: I don't know that I'd call it conspiracy, but in looking at Firefox, Safari, Camino, Google Chrome, and now SM 2.x there certainly seems to be a vast amount of code sharing/swapping going on... Chrome and Safari share code with each other but don't share any code with any of

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I don't know that I'd call it conspiracy, but in looking at Firefox, Safari, Camino, Google Chrome, and now SM 2.x there certainly seems to be a vast amount of code sharing/swapping going on... Chrome and Safari share code with each other but don't share

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Robert Kaiser
Bill Davidsen schrieb: I still find it useful, but the two things I find most missing are never going to be there because they are not in the base codes of FF and TB. Unless someone comes up and writes code that implements them based on the SM2 base - and everyone is welcome to that. I am

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Robert Kaiser
Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a way I wouldn't have considered until I'd actually used it. Just

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a way I wouldn't have considered until I'd

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I don't know that I'd call it conspiracy, but in looking at Firefox, Safari, Camino, Google Chrome, and now SM 2.x there certainly seems to be a vast amount of code sharing/swapping going on... Chrome and Safari share code with each other but

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a way I wouldn't have considered until I'd

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Rufus wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I don't know that I'd call it conspiracy, but in looking at Firefox, Safari, Camino, Google Chrome, and now SM 2.x there certainly seems to be a vast amount of code sharing/swapping going on... Chrome and Safari share

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a way I wouldn't have

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread NoOp
On 01/30/2010 03:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real estate in a

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread NoOp
On 01/29/2010 03:36 PM, Russell wrote: As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Rufus
NoOp wrote: On 01/30/2010 03:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X. Saves desk real

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread Phillip Jones
Rufus wrote: NoOp wrote: On 01/30/2010 03:34 PM, Phillip Jones wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: The biggest one is opening Mail/News in a tab vice a second window of it's own - that's integrated and really slick, especially on a laptop, and in particular with Spaces in Mac OS X.

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-30 Thread »Q«
In news:7rgdnrrlobixa_nwnz2dnuvz_j6dn...@mozilla.org, Phillip Jones pjon...@kimbanet.com wrote: If they want the silly tabs. Fine. If it makes people giddy using them That's fine as well Just please keep a way to turn the tab nonsense off. You need to satisfy all the users and not everyone is

Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-29 Thread Russell
As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but that it must be

Re: Goodbye Seamonkey

2010-01-29 Thread Lou
Russell wrote: As someone who's been on the web since the beginning with Mosaic , then Netscape, then AOL Netscape (ugh) , then Netscape re-born as Seamonkey, it's a sad day to have to give up and move on, The end comes with v2.x, Seamonkey and the decision to no longer be a simple browser, but

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