Re: SM and FF slow!

2009-11-30 Thread Cedar

Cedar wrote:

My SM 2.0 and FF 3.0.10 are extremely slowno matter what I'm trying
to do. Like 10 to 20 minutes (dialup) to open a webpage! IE,
however, gets there lickety-split! Any ideas what might be happening?


Running SM in safe mode seems to speed things up somewhat, but still 
pretty slow.  Also, in safe mode, I noticed that when I clicked stop 
on one site that had been loading and tried to go to another site, SM 
kept on trying to load the images from the first site!  I had to hit 
stop and enter the next url several times before it went to the next 
site.  I installed prefbar a couple of days agonaw...it couldn't be 
causing these problems, could it?

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Re: SM and FF slow!

2009-11-30 Thread Cedar

Cedar wrote:

Cedar wrote:

My SM 2.0 and FF 3.0.10 are extremely slowno matter what I'm trying
to do. Like 10 to 20 minutes (dialup) to open a webpage! IE,
however, gets there lickety-split! Any ideas what might be happening?


Running SM in safe mode seems to speed things up somewhat, but still
pretty slow. Also, in safe mode, I noticed that when I clicked stop on
one site that had been loading and tried to go to another site, SM kept
on trying to load the images from the first site! I had to hit
stop and enter the next url several times before it went to the next
site. I installed prefbar a couple of days agonaw...it couldn't be
causing these problems, could it?


As well, the net connection keeps stalling (this does not seem to happen 
in ie), and the Networking tab in Windows Task Manager shows a very low 
percentage of Network Utilization.

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Re: SM and FF slow!

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Freitag

Cedar schrieb:

Cedar wrote:

My SM 2.0 and FF 3.0.10 are extremely slowno matter what I'm trying
to do. Like 10 to 20 minutes (dialup) to open a webpage! IE,
however, gets there lickety-split! Any ideas what might be happening?


Running SM in safe mode seems to speed things up somewhat, but still
pretty slow. Also, in safe mode, I noticed that when I clicked stop on
one site that had been loading and tried to go to another site, SM kept
on trying to load the images from the first site! I had to hit
stop and enter the next url several times before it went to the next
site. I installed prefbar a couple of days agonaw...it couldn't be
causing these problems, could it?



Very unlikely prefbar shouldn't interact with those kind of hings usually.
regards

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Re: Browser Doesn't email does not show Images

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Freitag

Brooke Clarke schrieb:

Hi:

I don't use the browser, but while trying to figure out the problem with
email not showing images have discovered that the browser does not show
anything.

How to get the email program to display images (.gif  .jpeg) ?


Normally under View there's an option to show inline attachments (this 
is mainly important for text mails).
If the images are not part of the message but being loaded from the 
internet (often the case with HTML email newsletters etc.), you need to 
disable the option to block external images in the preferences under 
Mail  Newsgroups, message view (freely translated by me, actual names 
may vary ;-))
But I suspect there's something else wrong if the browser fails to 
display anything. Have you tried to verify this behaviour with a new 
profile?

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Re: SM 2.0 mailnews Password issues

2009-11-30 Thread Neil

NoOp wrote:


I'm not sure how to test further.
 


Make an SMTP log?
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Session_logging_for_mail/news

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Re: SM 2.0 mailnews Password issues

2009-11-30 Thread Gabriele

NoOp ha scritto:

Ran into an interesting problem today; ATT (my isp) had issues with
their email server today. I opened up SM 2.0 (linux) and found that all
but one account (this one) were working. I couldn't send msgs, couldn't
receive msgs etc. I couldn not even log on to the ATT webmail.



[CUT]


So it appears that there is something in the 2.0 password routine that
gets stuck when it gets a refused password or error from the isp side.
I'm not sure how to test further.



Hi,

same problem here and I have my own mail server (EIMS 3.3.9).
Today I typed a wrong pw, SM 2.0 showed an alert to enter a new pw / retry 
/ cancel. Well, I did type the correct pw, but still the wrong one was sent 
to my mail server (I saw it in the log).

Then I clicked on retry and the good one was sent.


Gabriele

ps: I'm setting f/u to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey only.
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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread user
On or about 11/30/2009 12:08 AM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:


S N I P 
 
 SeaMonkey 1.1.18
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7*
 
 *Emphasis mine.*
 

S N I P 

Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*.  Why?

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Re: A bug in SMTP dialog box/prompt?

2009-11-30 Thread Jay Garcia

On 30.11.2009 00:38, Ant wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Hi.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4025/screenshotph.gif from SeaMonkey 
v2.0 in my updated Windows XP Pro. SP3. I noticed I could highlight the 
texts. I accidently clicked on it, typed my password (not shown -- 
whew), and hit enter. I was wondering why it didn't work.


Thank you in advance. :)


What texts?? If you're speaking of the error message text, it's a 
graphic, not a text as such.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Ray_Net

Phillip Jones wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Bush wrote:

Please post in this newsgroup, When a Good working version of seamonkey
2.X is available . 2.0 is real Buggy . It needs to be Marked as   BETA
  Time for me to go back to 1.1.18


The best attitude you can do is to avoid trying to use a new
version/design ... too earlier.


Problem is they drop support and updates on 1.1.8 as soon as 2 went 
gold. 


The problem is created by optimist guys putting the Gold status too 
early ... Reading the newsgroup convince me that the status should 
return to beta version.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Benoit Renard

Phillip Jones wrote:
Problem is they drop support and updates on 1.1.8 as soon as 2 went 
gold. so if there are any security problems, it won't be updated.


Please spell the version number correctly. It's 1.1.18, the 18th 
security and stability update.


SeaMonkey 1.1.x hasn't been pronounced dead yet. Sometime in December it 
will be looked at, and a decision will be made.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Benoit Renard

Bush wrote:

I'll try again after version 2.5 is released


This is SeaMonkey, not Firefox. We don't do silly .5 version number 
jumps. ;)

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Re: A bug in SMTP dialog box/prompt?

2009-11-30 Thread Ant

On 11/30/2009 12:57 AM PT, Martin Freitag typed:


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4025/screenshotph.gif from SeaMonkey
v2.0 in my updated Windows XP Pro. SP3. I noticed I could highlight the
texts. I accidently clicked on it, typed my password (not shown --
whew), and hit enter. I was wondering why it didn't work.


I guess because the focus for the cursor was at the marked text and not
in the textbox, just click in th textbox again and you should be able to
type your PW.
regards


I know that, but why did the prompt allow me to highlight that text? 
That shouldn't happen and sounds like a bug.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Jay Garcia

On 30.11.2009 08:35, Benoit Renard wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


John Boyle wrote:

My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but,
as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did
NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people,
however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS
TERRIBLY DEFICIENT IN THE EMAIL AND NEWSGROUPS DEPARTMENTS, as people
have been saying, CONSTANTLY, and the developers JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO
LISTEN TO ANY CRITICISM, EVEN IF BASED ON FACT!


Please don't confuse Robert Kaiser, the most prominent developer, with 
the developers.


I'm a developer, even if I don't contribute all that often, and I will 
tell you this: SeaMonkey 2.0's mailnews part is based on a beta version 
of Thunderbird 3.0. When Thunderbird 3.0 is done, the next release of 
SeaMonkey 2.0 will incorporate all the fixes, and hopefully be more 
reliable in that department.


Why is a release based on a beta ?

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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread Hartmut Figge
u...@domain.invalid:

Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*.  Why?

In the first case it is due to the number 7 and in the second case it is
due to the point. Try a few examples. Such with letters on both ends
will be displayed in bold.

AFAIR a very old bug.

Hartmut
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 30.11.2009 08:35, Benoit Renard wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


 John Boyle wrote:

 My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but,
 as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did
 NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people,
 however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS
 TERRIBLY DEFICIENT IN THE EMAIL AND NEWSGROUPS DEPARTMENTS, as people
 have been saying, CONSTANTLY, and the developers JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO
 LISTEN TO ANY CRITICISM, EVEN IF BASED ON FACT!


 Please don't confuse Robert Kaiser, the most prominent developer, with
 the developers.

 I'm a developer, even if I don't contribute all that often, and I will
 tell you this: SeaMonkey 2.0's mailnews part is based on a beta version
 of Thunderbird 3.0. When Thunderbird 3.0 is done, the next release of
 SeaMonkey 2.0 will incorporate all the fixes, and hopefully be more
 reliable in that department.


Why is a release based on a beta ?


Yeah - seems like a bad decision on somebody's part...  -JW
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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 11/30/2009 9:57 AM, Hartmut Figge typed the following:
 u...@domain.invalid:
 
 Neither 'Firefox/2.0.0.7' nor 'Emphasis mine.' shows in *bold*.  Why?
 
 In the first case it is due to the number 7 and in the second case it is
 due to the point. Try a few examples. Such with letters on both ends
 will be displayed in bold.
 
 AFAIR a very old bug.
 
 Hartmut

Thanks Hartmut, for the explanation.  Never came across that before.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Jay Garcia

On 30.11.2009 08:58, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 30.11.2009 08:35, Benoit Renard wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


 John Boyle wrote:

 My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but,
 as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did
 NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people,
 however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS
 TERRIBLY DEFICIENT IN THE EMAIL AND NEWSGROUPS DEPARTMENTS, as people
 have been saying, CONSTANTLY, and the developers JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO
 LISTEN TO ANY CRITICISM, EVEN IF BASED ON FACT!


 Please don't confuse Robert Kaiser, the most prominent developer, 
with

 the developers.

 I'm a developer, even if I don't contribute all that often, and I will
 tell you this: SeaMonkey 2.0's mailnews part is based on a beta version
 of Thunderbird 3.0. When Thunderbird 3.0 is done, the next release of
 SeaMonkey 2.0 will incorporate all the fixes, and hopefully be more
 reliable in that department.


Why is a release based on a beta ?


Yeah - seems like a bad decision on somebody's part...  -JW


Well, I realize it was an incomplete question as ALL releases are based 
on betas but I think the meaning was transmitted - why is a SM release 
based on a TB beta where there are as yet unresolved bugs?


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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread Mark Hansen
On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 /snip/

 On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help  About SeaMonkey].
 Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at
 the top of the page, do you see the following:
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18

 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste
 it into a reply to this message.

 SeaMonkey 1.1.18

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox. That is the sole
 reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0. Spoof 2.0 as Firefox,
 and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous.

 You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep
 breathe here.

 Lee
 I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ?

 I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0 Found it
 was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18
 again . Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0.

 I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and
 Running... But 2.0 is out of my Class .

 So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ?
 
 Deep breath myself.
 
 Look at the User Agent string you posted in response to David's request. 
  Its above, but here it is again:
 
 SeaMonkey 1.1.18
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 *Firefox/2.0.0.7*
 
 *Emphasis mine.*
 
 You have your 1.1.18 profile reporting that it is Firefox 2.0.07 on 
 Windows XP, instead of SeaMonkey 1.1.18 on Windows XP.  The site's 
 browser sniffer lets you in because it thinks you are using ff 2.0.0.7.
 
 That's called UA spoofing.  The User Agent string is what is reported to 
 the web site's server as the browser and OS you are using.  At some 
 time, you changed the User Agent string in SeaMonkey 1.1.18 to spoof FF 
 2.0.0.7, probably to fix a similar problem with another web site.  You 
 may not remember doing it, but clearly you did it at some time.
 
 This can be done manually in about:config, or by an extension, such as 
 teh UA switcher.  I don't know how you did it.
 
 Installing 2.0 caused SeaMonkey to report as what it actually is, 
 SeaMonkey 2.0.  If I spoof the 2.0 UA to report as FF 3.5, it works fine 
 too.
 
 To tell users that going back to Sm 1.1.18 to *fix* this problem is 
 totally incorrect. SM 1.1.18 with its proper user agent has exactly the 
 same problem as SM 2.0.
 
 I understand your frustration over the Sm 2.0 upgrade. Still, it is 
 unwise to simply post blanket *fixes* as you have done tonight.  Its not 
 always correct, indeed often wrong, and its not helpsing users to solve 
 2.0 problems.
 
 Lee
 
   Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional...  Now How did that error 
 Happen ?
   As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the 
 method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate .
 
 Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18
 
   No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 .
 
 
 and here is your So called spoofing results again
 
 SeaMonkey 1.1.18
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
 Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Good Grief! The only way your SeaMonkey 1.1.X will report that
user agent value is if YOU put it in there at some point. The fact
that you don't remember doing it doesn't change that fact.

The spoofing goes in the Profile. The profile is not shared between
SeaMonkey 1.1.X and SeaMonkey 2.X, so the spoofing done in 1.1.X
would not have been copied to 2.0 (unless, again, you copied it).

As a result, the fact that your installation of SeaMonkey 2.0 is not
spoofing itself as FireFox is not a surprise.

 
 ps...
 
 When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm 
 Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox 
 standalones on this computer .

Installing Firefox has nothing to do with having SeaMonkey spoof itself
as firefox.

Do you still not understand what spoofing is? It was explained to you
in a previous post.


 
   I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on 
 my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via 
 that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED 
 seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 
 was released .

Where do you see that? According to your User Agent string above, you
spoofed SeaMonkey 1.1.X to report itself as Firefox 2.0.07, not SeaMonkey
2.0.

You don't seem to want any help, but rather just want to sling mud at
other SeaMonkey users. What's the point in that? Whom do you believe
you are helping?
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New Profile Solved Problem, Now What?

2009-11-30 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

The browser did not work at all and was not seeing images in email.
After creating a new profile the browser now works and the images show 
up in email.


How to migrate my old messages to the new profile?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Misak Khachatryan

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 30.11.2009 08:58, J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:

On 30.11.2009 08:35, Benoit Renard wrote:

--- Original Message ---


John Boyle wrote:

My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but,
as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did
NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people,
however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS
TERRIBLY DEFICIENT IN THE EMAIL AND NEWSGROUPS DEPARTMENTS, as people
have been saying, CONSTANTLY, and the developers JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO
LISTEN TO ANY CRITICISM, EVEN IF BASED ON FACT!


Please don't confuse Robert Kaiser, the most prominent developer,
with
the developers.

I'm a developer, even if I don't contribute all that often, and I will
tell you this: SeaMonkey 2.0's mailnews part is based on a beta version
of Thunderbird 3.0. When Thunderbird 3.0 is done, the next release of
SeaMonkey 2.0 will incorporate all the fixes, and hopefully be more
reliable in that department.


Why is a release based on a beta ?


Yeah - seems like a bad decision on somebody's part... -JW


Well, I realize it was an incomplete question as ALL releases are based
on betas but I think the meaning was transmitted - why is a SM release
based on a TB beta where there are as yet unresolved bugs?



There is not too much or no Gecko mailnews bugs, which SM and TB 
sharing. TB is beta because of it's UI bugs or parts of mailnews that SM 
not uses, so it's pretty safe to go gold. It's a good decision, some 
open source software take years in beta or even alpha, which doesn't 
prevent them to be as stable as releases.

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Fedex Page does not load

2009-11-30 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

When trying to track a fedex shipment at:
http://www.fedex.com/us/
a text only menu loads, and at the bottom of the window appears:
Read images.fedex.com, the icon in the upper right shows motion but the 
page does not load.

How to fix that?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/29/2009 8:46 PM, Bush wrote:
 Leonidas Jones wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/29/2009 5:40 PM, Bush wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 A US A site is not accessible with Seamonkey 2.0

 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/


 Here is the fix


 #1 uninstall seamonkey 2.x BETA

 #2 reinstall seamonkey 1.1.18

 And the site is Viewable

 But wait for seamonket 2.5 to be released and try again .
 I get the problem with SeaMonkey 1.1.18.

 On the SeaMonkey 1.1.18 menu bar, select [Help  About SeaMonkey].
 Under the large-type link for SeaMonkey 1.1.18 at
 the top of the page, do you see the following:
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 SeaMonkey/1.1.18

 If you see anything different, please copy the entire string and paste
 it into a reply to this message.

 SeaMonkey 1.1.18

 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
 Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7
 Okay, you spoofed your 1.1.18 profile to Firefox.  That is the sole 
 reason it works for you in 1.1.18 and not 2.0.  Spoof 2.0 as Firefox, 
 and it works too, as I have found. Your fix is ludicrous.

 You are letting your anger get the better of you. Lets take a deep 
 breathe here.

 Lee
 I spoofed Nothing ... What is Spoof ?
 
 I had seamonket 1.1.18 and uninstalled it then I installed 2.0   Found 
 it was a piece of Crap. So I uninstalled it And now I installed 1.1.18 
 again .  Copied over the files I saved to DVD's prior to installing 2.0.
 
 I am Not Angry ... I love trying to Get a piece of Crap up and 
 Running...  But 2.0 is out of my Class .
 
 So how does one Get rid of this So called SPOOF ?

Spoofing is how a user counteracts sniffing.  For an explanation of
sniffing, see my
http://www.rossde.com/internet/Webdevelopers.html#sniff.  For an
explanation of spoofing, see my
http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof.

To summarize, you told http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ that you were
using Firefox 2.0.0.7 when you were actually using SeaMonkey 1.1.18.

-- 
David E. Ross
http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote:
   Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional...  Now How did that error 
 Happen ?
   As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the 
 method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate .
 
 Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18
 
   No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 .
 
 
 and here is your So called spoofing results again
 
 SeaMonkey 1.1.18
 
 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
 Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

It's not an error.  You had to have set a preference to say that you are
using Firefox 2.0.0.7 on Windows XP (which is the meaning of Windows NT
5.1).

 ps...
 
 When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm 
 Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox 
 standalones on this computer .
 
   I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on 
 my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via 
 that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED 
 seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 
 was released .

Way back in 2002, the site had to be different.  They upgraded (??)
the site sometime in the past 7 years.  You never noticed because, when
that happened, you were already telling Web servers that you were using
Firefox.

-- 
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http://www.rossde.com/

Go to Mozdev at http://www.mozdev.org/ for quick access to
extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, and other
Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
more quickly than you can Mozilla Add-Ons.
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Re: Fedex Page does not load

2009-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/30/2009 7:50 AM, Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi:
 
 When trying to track a fedex shipment at:
 http://www.fedex.com/us/
 a text only menu loads, and at the bottom of the window appears:
 Read images.fedex.com, the icon in the upper right shows motion but the 
 page does not load.
 How to fix that?
 
 Have Fun,
 
 Brooke Clarke
 

It's working for me.  Clear your cache and try again.

To clear your cache, go to the menu bar and select [Edit  Preferences].
 On the Preferences window, select [Advanced  Cache].  On the Cache
pane, select the Clear Cache button and then the OK button.

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http://www.rossde.com/

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Re: Fedex Page does not load

2009-11-30 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi David:

Clearning the cache did not make any difference.

Note that I just make a new profile, which allowed the browser to work.
I can see images on other web pages, but not on the Fedex page.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com

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Re: Fedex Page does not load

2009-11-30 Thread Phillip Jones

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi David:

Clearning the cache did not make any difference.

Note that I just make a new profile, which allowed the browser to work.
I can see images on other web pages, but not on the Fedex page.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com

go back to original and see if View  Message Body  As Original HTML is 
set.


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Re: 2 problems

2009-11-30 Thread S. Beaulieu

scott wrote:


second... I get spam... I use the spam filter... but it only lets me
subjegate one spam out. then seamonk opens the next email
duh spamhope you understand , seamonk should not jump into the
email until I have finished killing spam.. I think the previous
version did not have this problem I can recieve over 30 emails when
I sign on... I know very well my accept list of people.. anything else I
junk period... this malfunction in seamonkey stress's me




Unselect Message (available at 
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#unselectmessage) solves 
that problem. I've been using it both in 1.1.x and 2.0 without a problem.


You need xSidebar to install it, though.

S.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread Phillip Jones

Benoit Renard wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Problem is they drop support and updates on 1.1.8 as soon as 2 went
gold. so if there are any security problems, it won't be updated.


Please spell the version number correctly. It's 1.1.18, the 18th
security and stability update.

SeaMonkey 1.1.x hasn't been pronounced dead yet. Sometime in December it
will be looked at, and a decision will be made.


Your Right it is 1.1.18. It may not be as of yet, but no new activity is 
being done to it.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread John Boyle
Benoit Renard wrote:
 John Boyle wrote:
 My evaluation of 2.0 is that it is somewhat faster as a browser, but,
 as with all the others, the email and newsgroups stink, still! I did
 NOT want to even download it, but was persuaded by a couple of people,
 however, nobody seems to want to tackle the FACT that version 2.0 IS
 TERRIBLY DEFICIENT IN THE EMAIL AND NEWSGROUPS DEPARTMENTS, as people
 have been saying, CONSTANTLY, and the developers JUST SIMPLY REFUSE TO
 LISTEN TO ANY CRITICISM, EVEN IF BASED ON FACT!

 Please don't confuse Robert Kaiser, the most prominent developer,
 with the developers.

 I'm a developer, even if I don't contribute all that often, and I will
 tell you this: SeaMonkey 2.0's mailnews part is based on a beta
 version of Thunderbird 3.0. When Thunderbird 3.0 is done, the next
 release of SeaMonkey 2.0 will incorporate all the fixes, and hopefully
 be more reliable in that department.
To Mr. Renard: Well, I look forward to seeing the change in those 2
Parts, then! I am glad to see that someone DOES listen, after all! I
hope you have taken what 1.1.18 has and just improved, if possible, on
it by removing what ever problems it has, as re-inventing the wheel when
it is NOT needed, only breaks the continuity of the product! :-\
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Re: Fedex Page does not load

2009-11-30 Thread JD

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

When trying to track a fedex shipment at:
http://www.fedex.com/us/
a text only menu loads, and at the bottom of the window appears:
Read images.fedex.com, the icon in the upper right shows motion but the
page does not load.
How to fix that?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke



Welcome to cyber Monday. I notice a few other sites are behaving like 
they're really, really busy. Just a guess on my part.


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MSOHEV.DLL keeps breaking my Seamonkey icons

2009-11-30 Thread MCBastos
I have been a loyal user of Netscape-descended products since about
1995. I went through the whole old Netscape family from 1 to 4.x, then
moved to Mozilla Application Suite when it went 1.0 and eventually to
Seamonkey, also when it went 1.0 -- and now I moved to Seamonkey 2. (By
the way, I think I should point out that I never had any significant
problems with any of them -- the opposite in fact, since the few
problems I had were *easily* solved, while similar problems with IE or
Outlook Express in my customers' machines turned out to be major
headaches.)

However, for a number of reasons, for a long time I kept Internet
Exploder as the official default browser in my Windows setup -- mainly
because it used to load faster when I clicked on a local HTML file, and
also because a few IE-dependent applications had problems if you changed
default browser. I almost never used IE for actual Internet browsing,
much less OE or even Outlook for e-mail.

Then IE7 (and later IE8) came, and Microsoft finally took steps to
separate the browser from the operating system -- a small step in the
right direction from a security standpoint. But the end result is that
IE now loads quite slower, negating the advantage of leaving it as the
default HTML file viewer. Also, with the rise of Firefox, other
applications learned how to deal with a computer where IE is not the
default browser. So, with a song in my heart, I thought I was finally
able to set Seamonkey as the default browser.

Or so I thought. Turns out that there is a Microsoft piece of crap that
insists on ruining it: the so-called Office HTML Icon Handler
(MSOHEV.DLL). It is installed (no choice about it) with Office 2003, and
modifies the standard way Explorer handles HTML files: if it finds a
line in the HTML header indicating that an Office application generated
that file, it does two things:
1. If you right-click the file and choose Edit, it will open the file
on the so-called appropriate application (usually Word, but sometimes
Excel or PowerPoint) instead of on the default HTML editor (Notetab, a
plaintext editor, in my case).
2. It will change the icon and filetype description in Explorer to
indicate the file special status as an office HTML file.

Having a different icon is (sometimes) convenient, because it makes it
plain that that file will need hand-tweaking (Word-generated HTML is so
full of crap that after I finish with it, the file has usually shrunk by
two-thirds or more). But it makes browsing a directory with lots of HTML
files very slow, since the handler will have to open each file to check.
But I could live with the lowered performance, so I let it be.

Until, that is, when it *broke*. Now all my HTML files display the
unknown file type icon (although they are listed correctly as
Seamonkey Document).

I tried all sorts of remedies. I tried unregistering the DLL, as
detailed here:
http://richardrudek.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!8B65F3DE0BE797AA!219.entry
I tried deleting the Iconhandler subkey on the Seamonkey HTML Registry
key.
I tried setting the default browser back to IE and then to Seamonkey again.
I tried uninstalling and reinstalling Office.
I tried manually choosing the correct icon.

All solutions I found were transitory at best. As soon as I use Word it
will restore the defaults and crap all over my setup again.

Has anybody managed to tame this beast?

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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread JeffM
Ray_Net wrote:
The problem is created by optimist guys
putting the Gold status too early

The KDE team had a similar problem with KDE 4.0.
To get anyone to write apps for the updated codebase,
they had to remove the Beta status.
They, however, noted that 4.0 was a
*This will eat your children* release
(though Fedora ignored that and shipped it anyway.)

With 4.1, the KDE team again stated
*This will STILL eat your children*.

The problems stem from an inadequate numbering system;
the Linux kernel has a solution to this (odd/even).

Now that there has been enough feedback
to weed out the problems,
KDE 4.2 and KDE 4.3 are getting glowing reviews.

If more folks would use and give feedback on
the _pre-release_ versions of SeaMonkey,
perhaps the point-zero release wouldn't be so traumatic.
As it is, apparently eveyone waits till the formal release
then gets their knickers in a knot and can't wait to bitch.
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Re: unable to send mail

2009-11-30 Thread user

chicagofan wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

I am unable to send e-mail with seamonkey 2.0 when I click send it pops
up an box saying:
Sending of message failed.
An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
mail.bellsouth.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but
you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password'
for that server or contact your service provider.

I don't have the authenticate box checked.
Anyone know whats going on?


Under your user account's Mail/Newsgroup Menu, have you checked your
settings under Outgoing Server [SMTP]?

If not, click EDIT from your toolbar/Click Mail  Newsgroups Account
Settings/ Click Outgoing Server (SMTP)/then CLICK... EDIT on the
default settings for your server. Make sure the box is NOT checked to
authenticate... in that pop up box.

I apologize if you have already done this, but there is more than one
authenticate box in SM, and this is what happened to me, when I
upgraded to 2.0. That box had been checked to authenticate, although it
wasn't needed by my ISP [or in my previous settings]. When I changed
this, my problems went away. HTH someone.
bj


thanks chicagofan. the authenticate box wasn't checked but the one 
saying use name and password was and when I unchecked that I was able to 
send.

thanks
Charles
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Re: Seamonkey and U.S. Government site does not work

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/29/2009 10:07 PM, Bush wrote:
  Too bad I am Using Windows 7 professional...  Now How did that error 
Happen ?
  As stated before . I know nothing about Spoofing... Its just that the 
method Both of you think is Accurate , IS in NO WAY accurate .


Windows 7 Pro and Seamonkey 1.1.18

  No Xp on my hard drive , I did a NEW INSTALL ( No Upgrade) of win 7 .


and here is your So called spoofing results again

SeaMonkey 1.1.18

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7


It's not an error.  You had to have set a preference to say that you are
using Firefox 2.0.0.7 on Windows XP (which is the meaning of Windows NT
5.1).


ps...

When I had Xp and Seamonkey 1.1.18 I was able to get into the Blm 
Website . and prior to win7 installation I NEVER installed The Firefox 
standalones on this computer .


  I first went to Blm site Way back in 2002 when I started Research on 
my Family History . I found my Grandfathers Homesteader property via 
that site and even printed out a copy of the Deed , So I guess I SPOOFED 
seamonkey to read as seamonkey 2.0 . SEVEN years before seamonkey 2.0 
was released .


Way back in 2002, the site had to be different.  They upgraded (??)
the site sometime in the past 7 years.  You never noticed because, when
that happened, you were already telling Web servers that you were using
Firefox.

 Does not make any Sence that I could So Called SPOOF an earlier 
Version Way before the newer Version Was even Thought of ..


 What about Win 7 and Win xp thing ?  I will have to Check and see if 
win7 is running  ver 1.1.18 in Compatibility Mode .

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any way to collapse news servers......

2009-11-30 Thread sharon
so they don't show all the groups?  I have 3 servers, this morning one 
was collapsed the other 2 were not.  This afternoon they were all 
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the 
servers to get message counts.  TIA

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Re: unable to send mail

2009-11-30 Thread jim
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:28:17 -0500, chicagofan m...@privacy.net in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:
 I am unable to send e-mail with seamonkey 2.0 when I click send it pops
 up an box saying:
Sending of message failed.
 An error occurred sending mail: Unable to authenticate to SMTP server
 mail.bellsouth.net. It does not support authentication (SMTP-AUTH) but
 you have chosen to use authentication. Uncheck 'Use name and password'
 for that server or contact your service provider.

 I don't have the authenticate box checked.
 Anyone know whats going on?

Under your user account's Mail/Newsgroup Menu, have you checked your 
settings under Outgoing Server [SMTP]?

If not, click EDIT from your toolbar/Click Mail  Newsgroups Account 
Settings/ Click Outgoing Server (SMTP)/then CLICK... EDIT on the 
default settings for your server.  Make sure the box is NOT checked to 
authenticate... in that pop up box.

I apologize if you have already done this,


 but there is more than one authenticate box in SM, and this is what 
 happened to me, 


Thanks.  I am now sending email with SM2.0.

How could I miss something so obvious. 
(oh...it wasn't that obvious. :-))

jim

when I 
upgraded to 2.0.  Tht box had been checked to authenticate, although it 
wasn't needed by my ISP [or in my previous settings].  When I changed 
this, my problems went away.  HTH someone.
bj


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Re: Seamonkey 2.0 is JUNK .

2009-11-30 Thread jim
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:43:01 -0800 (PST), JeffM jef...@email.com in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:

If more folks would use and give feedback on
the _pre-release_ versions of SeaMonkey,
perhaps the point-zero release wouldn't be so traumatic.
As it is, apparently eveyone waits till the formal release
then gets their knickers in a knot and can't wait to bitch.

All well and good, Jeff, but the problem that stymied me for several days
did not appear in the last Beta release. (Or at least the Beta version of
2.0 available for download from the official Seamonkey site about two
weeks before the certified ready for prime time point-zero release.)

That beta was installed on a different machine but one running the same
operating system as the one where I installed the official 2.0 which would
not send email for several days.

jim
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Re: Wanted: 'Copy image location' on image context menu

2009-11-30 Thread jim
On Sun, 29 Nov 2009 00:03:41 +0530, Rex
rexduderemoveandreversedom...@liam.ur in mozilla.support.seamonkey
wrote:

Jens Hatlak wrote:
 Rex wrote:
 If I want to copy the link of an image in SM2, it's a rather tedious
 process- rightclick-properties, then drag to select n copy the link
 from the dialog that pops up.

 You'll find that Copy Image copies both the source URL and the image
 itself to the clipboard, except for Linux where this is currently
 broken. See Bug 469481. I tried to add Copy Image Location for all
 platforms there but it was not accepted. Once the Linux core issue is
 fixed the extra context menu item there will probably be removed again.



Cool, I didn't know that! Makes more sense actually..
Thanks for the tip.

 
Yes, it is cool.  I wonder which other email clients will do that.  I have
been using it for some time to transport images from web sites...

I discovered it by accident a coupla years ago...

Windows users should keep in mind that the 'printscreen' key sends a copy
of your entire current desktop to the clipboard and alt-printscreen sends
the current active window (such as a dialogue box) to clipboard from where
it can be pasted directly into an email or other application.  

I usually use ctrl-v to paste.

jim


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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

2009-11-30 Thread Hartmut Figge
sharon:

so they don't show all the groups?  I have 3 servers, this morning one 
was collapsed the other 2 were not.

- user.js -
user_pref(news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane, true);
---

Hartmut
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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Freitag

sharon schrieb:

so they don't show all the groups?  I have 3 servers, this morning one
was collapsed the other 2 were not. This afternoon they were all
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the
servers to get message counts. TIA


You can search for the preference 
news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane

in about:config and set it to true.
(or add it to your user.js)
regards

Martin
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Re: New Profile Solved Problem, Now What?

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Freitag

Brooke Clarke schrieb:

Hi:

The browser did not work at all and was not seeing images in email.
After creating a new profile the browser now works and the images show
up in email.

How to migrate my old messages to the new profile?


- Create the mail-account in the new profile like you had in the old one
- close SM
- copy inbox, sent, etc. from old profile to new profile
- restart SM

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Re: A bug in SMTP dialog box/prompt?

2009-11-30 Thread Martin Freitag

Ant schrieb:


I know that, but why did the prompt allow me to highlight that text?
That shouldn't happen and sounds like a bug.



feel free to file one ;-)

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Re: Enlarge/Decrease fonts sizes only on the fly?

2009-11-30 Thread David Wilkinson

Ant wrote:
I love it too, but it keeps crashing for me like on 
http://www.facebook.com/editaccount.php?notificationsmd=cGhvdG9fY29tbWVudDtm 

+cm9tPTEwMDAwMDEyMzgyOTg1Mjt1aWQ9MTAwOTEyOTE5OTtwaWQ9NTM4OTUwO3RvPTEwMDkxMjkxOTk= 

+mid=e75fadG3c2616efGb8881bG9 (doesn't even show the web page yet), 
http://bbc.co.uk/, etc. :(


No problem for me. I don't/won't use Facebook. I spend too much time on usenet 
even to consider it.


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Re: Don't get mail when I open the browser

2009-11-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Mr. Cheese wrote:

Rex wrote:

Mr. Cheese wrote:

In previous versions/editions of SM email would not be retrieved until I
started the email program. In 2.0 mail is loaded when I start the
browser. This might not seem to be a problem but let me explain.
I have a laptop that I use when I travel. This week I started it to
install new software from the web and update XP, etc.

Email was retrieved while I was browsing. Now when I returned to my base
system the email was no longer retrieved because SM thought was already
read.

Is there a setting that I couldn't find to suppress retrieval until the
email program is started?


Did you even look at the preferences pane before posting the question?
It's RIGHT THERE when you go to mail  newsgroups preferences - a
checkbox titled 'Only check mail when I start Mail  Newsgroups'!!

If you've enabled that option and are still seeing this problem, well
that's another matter.


-
Deliver yesterday, code today, think tomorrow.
-

Mea Culpa. I was looking in the Mail and News Group ACCOUNT settings.
Thx to all who tried to help.


You should also be able to set the mail program not to download messages 
automatically. At least in previous versions you could (under Server 
settings for EACH account). So if I have two computers both running 
SeaMonkey at the same time, I set one not to download messages and let 
the other handle mail.


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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Graham

Bush wrote:
I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems 
with Certificates


Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to 
what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made 
the best choice - for all of us.

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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

2009-11-30 Thread sharon

Martin Freitag wrote:

sharon schrieb:

so they don't show all the groups? I have 3 servers, this morning one
was collapsed the other 2 were not. This afternoon they were all
expanded, no big deal, I can get used to closing than opening the
servers to get message counts. TIA


You can search for the preference
news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane
in about:config and set it to true.
(or add it to your user.js)
regards

Martin

thank you very much!
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Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Danny Kile
Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work 
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you 
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. 
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.


The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx
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Re: any way to collapse news servers......

2009-11-30 Thread sharon

Hartmut Figge wrote:

user_pref(news.persist_server_open_state_in_folderpane, true

Thank you!
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Danny Kile wrote:
Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work 
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you 
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. 
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.


The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Works correctly here

Seamonkey 1.1.18
Win7 pro
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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No
problems with Certificates


Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to
what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've
made the best choice - for all of us.


No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0



No, NO NO!!

Its not the install of 2.0 that's reporting the wrong UA, its your 
1.1.18!!!





And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/


Totslly useless information snipped.


I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.1



You got right in because the UA string which *you* reported in another 
thread is incorrect.  Someone, either you or someone with access to your 
machine permanently changed the UA string.  SeaMonkey will not do this 
by itself.


SeaMonkey is not going to report a UA of an antiquated version of 
Firefox without user intervention. If it was not you, it was someone 
with access to your machine.


I dare you to try creating a new profile in SeaMonkey 1.1.18, and see if 
you can get in.


Create this new profile, and report it back here.  It *will* show the 
correct UA for SeaMonkey.


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA 
is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that. 
SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case.


I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for 
SeaMonkey 2.0.  When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I 
can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0.


I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to 
fix on their end.  As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either 
the UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Danny Kile

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 11/30/2009 9:35 PM, Bush typed the following:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Works correctly here

Seamonkey 1.1.18
Win7 pro


Also FAILS here.  Windows XP SP3 SM2.0
Works OK with IE Tab.


Where did you find IE Tab that works with SM2.0?

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Works correctly here

Seamonkey 1.1.18
Win7 pro


It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not 
SeaMonkey.  Heck, here it is from your headers:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7


Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey.  That is the only reason it 
works for you.


Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile.  Use that to open Profile 
Manager.  Create a new profile, call it Test.  Open 1.1.18 in that test 
profile, and try to get into the sites you say work.  You will fail. 
Click About SeaMonkey and check the string.  It will say SeaMonkey 
1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7.


Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest.

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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread NoOp
On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:
 Graham wrote:
 Bush wrote:
 I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems 
 with Certificates
 
 Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to 
 what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made 
 the best choice - for all of us.
 
 No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?
 
 
 The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems
 
 Still looking for Spoofing ...
 
 New hard drive
 New install of Win 7
 New install of Seamonkey 2.0
 
 And I guess My install SPOOFED  Mozilla's mistakes .
 
 
 And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .
 
 The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .
 
 
 As far as the other post go '
 
 http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
 
 I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.18

Yes you did - you spoofed Firefox just fine:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Now, toddle along  enjoy your ignorance.

But if you'd really like to understand what/when/where, why not try
being such an ass and work with the folks who are _trying_ to help you?

Please click 'Help|About SeaMonkey' and tell us what shows under
'SeaMonkey 1.1.18'. Don't be afraid, you can copy and paste the result
here. My guess is that it will show:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

and you'll find that Firefox/2.0.0.7 is *not* a valid/normal UA in a
standard SeaMonkey install. Somewhere along the line you, or whoever
installed SeaMonkey for you, added the Firefox/2.0.0.7 into your
profile for Firefox spoofing. That's not necessarily a bad thing
(subject to some debate), but just understand it is *not* standard and
is there for Fx spoofing.

Please tell us what you see when you enter: about:plugins
Just the header/main such as:
Default Plugin
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
etc.

Now enter: about:config
and enter: firefox
in the Filter box. What do you see?



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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Danny Kile

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA
is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that.
SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case.

I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for
SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I
can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0.

I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to
fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the
UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.

Lee


OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent 
Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the 
only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get 
this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone.

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Re: SMTP parameter in SM2 after having migrated from SM1

2009-11-30 Thread rocek

jim wrote:

On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:49:39 -0500, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


jim wrote:

On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:09:40 +0100, obones obones_g...@fds_free.fr in
mozilla.support.seamonkey wrote:


Hello all,

I'm currently reviewing SM2 and when I installed it I told it to import 
the settings from my existing SM1 installation.

All email accounts got imported, along with the SMTP server definition.
While I can send emails just fine in SM1, I always get an error when 
sending emails with SM2.

The error says this:

Unable to authenticate to SMTP server SERVER_NAME. The serer does not 
support any compatible insecure authentication mechanism but you have 
chosen insecure authentication. Try switching on secure authentication 
or contact your service provider.


I tried turning on TLS or even SSL, but none of these are provided by 
the given server.

What I find weird is that it worked and continues to work fine in SM1.
Obviously, some option has been removed/disabled in SM2, but which one?
Is there a way to reactivate it?

Thanks

My situation is that I can receive just gangbusters with SM2.  But it
refuses to send, giving the SMTP-AUTH message.  However, the server
settings show no security, no Auth.

Let me know if you get it working and most of all, how you did it.

I think that may be your problem, you have to match your settings to the server, 
if it wants auth you have to provide it. Since I don't know what your server 
wants I can't be sure, but there's a reasonable possibility that you need to 
configure auth. Not only that, but secure auth, like TLS+SSL (I forget the exact 
choice in the list), but it's not the checkbox, it's the menu about 1/3 down the 
screen.


Thanks.  I will try that one.

jim

I am experiencing similar problems, and went so far as to ask our 
systems people at the University of Delaware to check it out; they 
downloaded Seamonkey 2.0 and couldn't get it to work with our servers 
with any combination of settings (Seamonkey 1.x worked fine).  I also 
have been unable to get the SMTP settings to work with Speakeasy's SMTP 
server (my isp), which had no problem with Seamonkey 1.x; I tried 
authentication on and off, as well as playing with multiple options.  So 
far, the only SMTP server that's worked for me is google.  Are there 
some compatibility issues in the new setting options?  Thanks for any 
suggesitonsTom

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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No
problems with Certificates


Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to
what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've
made the best choice - for all of us.


No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0



No, NO NO!!

Its not the install of 2.0 that's reporting the wrong UA, its your 
1.1.18!!!





And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/


Totslly useless information snipped.


I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.1



You got right in because the UA string which *you* reported in another 
thread is incorrect.  Someone, either you or someone with access to your 
machine permanently changed the UA string.  SeaMonkey will not do this 
by itself.


SeaMonkey is not going to report a UA of an antiquated version of 
Firefox without user intervention. If it was not you, it was someone 
with access to your machine.


I dare you to try creating a new profile in SeaMonkey 1.1.18, and see if 
you can get in.


Create this new profile, and report it back here.  It *will* show the 
correct UA for SeaMonkey.


Lee
 I already created a new profile and it Reads the Same . I even 
uninstalled 1.1.18 and Deleted all files and even wiped the folders .


And dowloaded Seamonkey 1.1.18 again and installed it .
Remade the profile . and here is what it says

SeaMonkey 1.1.18

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7



Now Tell me How you Spoof it .  Where Do i type in SPOOF  ?
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

/snip/


I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to
fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the
UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.

Lee


OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent
Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the
only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get
this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone.


Okay, lets consider why sites sniff for browsers. Their plan is to serve 
different versions to users with specific browsers.  I got it work by 
spoofing Firefox.  You spoofed IE, and it did not work, probably because 
the version served was for the IE rendering engine.


SeaMonkey has the same gecko rendering engine as Firefox.  Always try 
spoofing Firefox first, that is most likely to work with SeaMonkey.


By the way, you asked earlier about a version of IE tab that would work 
with 2.0, yet you state that you hate running IE.  Using IE tab in 
SeaMonkey just converts SM to an IE shell, you might as well be running 
IE.  Not that this is a crime, but just a point to consider.


Lee

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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No
problems with Certificates


Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to
what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've
made the best choice - for all of us.


No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0



No, NO NO!!

Its not the install of 2.0 that's reporting the wrong UA, its your
1.1.18!!!




And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/


Totslly useless information snipped.


I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.1



You got right in because the UA string which *you* reported in another
thread is incorrect. Someone, either you or someone with access to
your machine permanently changed the UA string. SeaMonkey will not do
this by itself.

SeaMonkey is not going to report a UA of an antiquated version of
Firefox without user intervention. If it was not you, it was someone
with access to your machine.

I dare you to try creating a new profile in SeaMonkey 1.1.18, and see
if you can get in.

Create this new profile, and report it back here. It *will* show the
correct UA for SeaMonkey.

Lee

I already created a new profile and it Reads the Same . I even
uninstalled 1.1.18 and Deleted all files and even wiped the folders .

And dowloaded Seamonkey 1.1.18 again and installed it .
Remade the profile . and here is what it says

SeaMonkey 1.1.18

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7


Now Tell me How you Spoof it . Where Do i type in SPOOF ?


Reply in full to NoOP's post.

Lee
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IMAP cleanup behavior question

2009-11-30 Thread Rex

I've configured SM2.0 to access my Gmail via IMAP.
I've seen the options for cleanup/sync, and from what I understand, it 
lets you delete messages by age or by count- but both from server and 
locally.

The sync option above lets you synchronize messages based on no. of days.
I don't want to delete my old mails- I have em dating back to 2004 when 
I first created my gmail account.

So correct me if I'm wrong, is this how it works?-
-Sync is set to last 15 days, so only mails from the last 15 days get 
downloaded.
-But if I set it to cleanup messages (either the last x no. of messages 
or by age), it will delete everything, including older mails (which may 
not have been downloaded and only have headers)


Is there a way to retain headers of older mails but not delete them- yet 
keep flushing out the downloaded mail bodies of the previous x no. of days?



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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:
I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No problems 
with Certificates
Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention to 
what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say you've made 
the best choice - for all of us.

No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0

And I guess My install SPOOFED  Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/

I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.18


Yes you did - you spoofed Firefox just fine:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Now, toddle along  enjoy your ignorance.

But if you'd really like to understand what/when/where, why not try
being such an ass and work with the folks who are _trying_ to help you?

Please click 'Help|About SeaMonkey' and tell us what shows under
'SeaMonkey 1.1.18'. Don't be afraid, you can copy and paste the result
here. My guess is that it will show:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

and you'll find that Firefox/2.0.0.7 is *not* a valid/normal UA in a
standard SeaMonkey install. Somewhere along the line you, or whoever
installed SeaMonkey for you, added the Firefox/2.0.0.7 into your
profile for Firefox spoofing. That's not necessarily a bad thing
(subject to some debate), but just understand it is *not* standard and
is there for Fx spoofing.

Please tell us what you see when you enter: about:plugins
Just the header/main such as:
Default Plugin
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
etc.




File name: npoji610.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla

MIME Type   Description SuffixesEnabled
application/x-java-vm   JavaYes
Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17

File name: npjpi160_17.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla


Now enter: about:config
and enter: firefox
in the Filter box. What do you see?


Nothing Happens . after pushing Enter Key . Bottom screen goes Blank


if I enter  Seamonkey I get


I only have one hand so hopefully I get this corect

general.useragent.extra.seamonkey  userset string firefox/2.0.0.7







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To all those claiming that SM 2.0 is 'junk'..

2009-11-30 Thread Rex

It looks like all the problems are due to migrating from 1.x.
I'm a new user of Seamonkey- I discovered it about a week before 2.0 
released and so I've used nothing but 2.0 from the start.
Aside from a few minor bugs that I've got solutions for here, I find it 
extremely stable and loads pages faster than Firefox (then again I have 
about 70 extensions on my Firefox profile).


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SM 2.0 mail is not using the default profile, even after selecting it manually HELP!

2009-11-30 Thread holsteinson
I used SM 1.1.18 and tried to upgrade to 2.0 but after downloading and
copying it to the Application folder, it only shows the new mail
profile wizard  it doesnt recognize my old SM existing default profile
with all my emails and accounts

I tried selecting manually with Manage Profile and selected it
manually but it did not workedCan anyone HELP ME get SM2.0 to use
my existing profile in Mail?
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Works correctly here

Seamonkey 1.1.18
Win7 pro


It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not 
SeaMonkey.  Heck, here it is from your headers:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23) 
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7


Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey.  That is the only reason it 
works for you.


Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile.  Use that to open Profile 
Manager.  Create a new profile, call it Test.  Open 1.1.18 in that test 
profile, and try to get into the sites you say work.  You will fail. 
Click About SeaMonkey and check the string.  It will say SeaMonkey 
1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7.


Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest.

Lee
Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters 
computer

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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No
problems with Certificates

Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention
to what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say
you've made the best choice - for all of us.

No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0

And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/

I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.18


Yes you did - you spoofed Firefox just fine:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Now, toddle along  enjoy your ignorance.

But if you'd really like to understand what/when/where, why not try
being such an ass and work with the folks who are _trying_ to help you?

Please click 'Help|About SeaMonkey' and tell us what shows under
'SeaMonkey 1.1.18'. Don't be afraid, you can copy and paste the result
here. My guess is that it will show:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

and you'll find that Firefox/2.0.0.7 is *not* a valid/normal UA in a
standard SeaMonkey install. Somewhere along the line you, or whoever
installed SeaMonkey for you, added the Firefox/2.0.0.7 into your
profile for Firefox spoofing. That's not necessarily a bad thing
(subject to some debate), but just understand it is *not* standard and
is there for Fx spoofing.

Please tell us what you see when you enter: about:plugins
Just the header/main such as:
Default Plugin
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
etc.




File name: npoji610.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-java-vm Java Yes
Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17

File name: npjpi160_17.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla


Now enter: about:config
and enter: firefox
in the Filter box. What do you see?


Nothing Happens . after pushing Enter Key . Bottom screen goes Blank


if I enter Seamonkey I get


I only have one hand so hopefully I get this corect

general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7








AHA!!


Note, *userset*!!!  Note that the pref is probably in bold.

That tells us that a user has changed the default setting.

Right click on the pref and choose reset.  That will set it back to the 
default setting.


Lee


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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you
click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 1.1.18 UA
is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that.
SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case.

I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for
SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I
can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0.

I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to
fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the
UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.

Lee


OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent 
Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the 
only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get 
this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone.

just went to my wifes computer and it Has seamonkey 1.1.14   Win xp

And it Views the Site perfectly .

SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14


http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if
you click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Works correctly here

Seamonkey 1.1.18
Win7 pro


It only works because your user agent string reports Firefox, not
SeaMonkey. Heck, here it is from your headers:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Blast it, it says Firefox, not SeaMonkey. That is the only reason it
works for you.

Open 1.1.18, click ToolsSwitch Profile. Use that to open Profile
Manager. Create a new profile, call it Test. Open 1.1.18 in that test
profile, and try to get into the sites you say work. You will fail.
Click About SeaMonkey and check the string. It will say SeaMonkey
1.1.18, not Firefox 2.0.0.7.

Try it and lets put this nonsense to rest.

Lee

Better yet I will try it on my Wifes computer , Then on my Daughters
computer


Unless someone has reset the ua on them.  Check the about:config pref to 
see if iit is also marked userset.


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Re: To all those claiming that SM 2.0 is 'junk'..

2009-11-30 Thread Stan

Rex wrote:

It looks like all the problems are due to migrating from 1.x.
I'm a new user of Seamonkey- I discovered it about a week before 2.0
released and so I've used nothing but 2.0 from the start.
Aside from a few minor bugs that I've got solutions for here, I find it
extremely stable and loads pages faster than Firefox (then again I have
about 70 extensions on my Firefox profile).

-
The problem with paradigms is that shift happens.
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I had a lot of trouble installing the last version of 1.1.xx and finally 
gave up, installed a beta of 2, transferred over some files, had to 
transfer passwords by hand. I have had no trouble with 2.0.

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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

I got ris of seamonkey 2.0 and went back to ver 1.1.18 and No
problems with Certificates

Having read your ranting in other threads, and not paying attention
to what you've been told (esp re user agent spoofing), I'd say
you've made the best choice - for all of us.

No one told me How I Spoofed ? So How Do you Spoof Seamonkey ?


The main thing is I went back to Seamonkey 1.1.18 and no problems

Still looking for Spoofing ...

New hard drive
New install of Win 7
New install of Seamonkey 2.0

And I guess My install SPOOFED Mozilla's mistakes .


And Quit Adding to the problem, By telling me thing I NEVER DID .

The SOFTWARE DIDNOT install Correctly .


As far as the other post go '

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/

I got right into it with Seamonkey 1.1.18


Yes you did - you spoofed Firefox just fine:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

Now, toddle along  enjoy your ignorance.

But if you'd really like to understand what/when/where, why not try
being such an ass and work with the folks who are _trying_ to help you?

Please click 'Help|About SeaMonkey' and tell us what shows under
'SeaMonkey 1.1.18'. Don't be afraid, you can copy and paste the result
here. My guess is that it will show:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.23)
Gecko/20090825 Firefox/2.0.0.7

and you'll find that Firefox/2.0.0.7 is *not* a valid/normal UA in a
standard SeaMonkey install. Somewhere along the line you, or whoever
installed SeaMonkey for you, added the Firefox/2.0.0.7 into your
profile for Firefox spoofing. That's not necessarily a bad thing
(subject to some debate), but just understand it is *not* standard and
is there for Fx spoofing.

Please tell us what you see when you enter: about:plugins
Just the header/main such as:
Default Plugin
Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_16
etc.




File name: npoji610.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla

MIME Type Description Suffixes Enabled
application/x-java-vm Java Yes
Java(TM) Platform SE 6 U17

File name: npjpi160_17.dll
Classic Java Plug-in 1.6.0_17 for Netscape and Mozilla


Now enter: about:config
and enter: firefox
in the Filter box. What do you see?


Nothing Happens . after pushing Enter Key . Bottom screen goes Blank


if I enter Seamonkey I get


I only have one hand so hopefully I get this corect

general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7








AHA!!


Note, *userset*!!!  Note that the pref is probably in bold.

That tells us that a user has changed the default setting.

Right click on the pref and choose reset.  That will set it back to the 
default setting.


Lee


 yes the whole line was in Bold ... Everyone in my home Has their own 
computers . I am the only one who uses this one .


Could it Be that Win 7 uninstaller left seamonker 2.0 setting in the 
Registry ?


look at my answer when I went to my wifes computer that has Seamonkey 
1.1.14


I Sent her about seamonkey to me

SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19) 
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14





http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

and the above link works on hers.  I almost got Killed for waking her 
up. Almost hat a tiger wood situation ..




You think I am a Dick or pulling your chain. But in No way did I So 
called Spoof Seamonkey .





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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work
in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if 
you

click on a show it will display a opening that show a description.
However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


Please disregard anything Bush has to say on this subject, his 
1.1.18 UA

is spoofed to Firefox 2.0.0.7, and he does not seem to understand that.
SM 1.1.18 will not do any better then Sm 2.0 in this case.

I get the same result as you when I use the correct User Agent for
SeaMonkey 2.0. When I change the UA, using the Preferences Toolbar, I
can get it to work as it should, spoofing as FF 2.0.

I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to
fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either 
the

UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.

Lee


OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent
Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the
only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get
this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone.

just went to my wifes computer and it Has seamonkey 1.1.14 Win xp

And it Views the Site perfectly .

SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19)
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14

http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx


SeaMonkey does display the site. Note the OP's post, click o one of the 
shows in the listings at the bottom.  It is supposed to give information 
on the show.  Without UA spoofing, it shows a block white box.


Nice Red colors ... as stated it works fine .


Is that working for you?  Also, try your government site on your wife's 
computer.



Yes there are no problem with the Blm site .


And by the way All my wife does on her computer is Read and Send email 
and play Games and chat on http://www.pogo.com.








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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

/snip/

general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7



AHA!!


Note, *userset*!!! Note that the pref is probably in bold.

That tells us that a user has changed the default setting.

Right click on the pref and choose reset. That will set it back to the
default setting.

Lee



yes the whole line was in Bold ... Everyone in my home Has their own
computers . I am the only one who uses this one .

Could it Be that Win 7 uninstaller left seamonker 2.0 setting in the
Registry ?

look at my answer when I went to my wifes computer that has Seamonkey
1.1.14

I Sent her about seamonkey to me

SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19)
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14

http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

and the above link works on hers. I almost got Killed for waking her up.
Almost hat a tiger wood situation ..

You think I am a Dick or pulling your chain. But in No way did I So
called Spoof Seamonkey .



I admit, I am getting frustrated, but I sense we are getting some light 
at the end of the tunnel.


The SeaMonkey UA will say SeaMonkey 2.0.  Here is mine, note I am on a Mac:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0


Your wife has SM 1.1.14.  I suggest updating that to 1.1.18, by the way.

The TVGuide page does seem to work without spoofing, but note Danny's 
original post, with the following:


When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will 
display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just 
show a blank.


So, rather then just opening the page, you have to go to the program 
listings, then click on a show to see details.  If SM has its proper UA, 
it will show a blank space.  If it is spoofed as FF, it will work.


You, or someone using your computer did change the UA.  There is no 
other way for this to happen.  I can see how SM *might* reset to its 
default on its own, but there is no way it will change the UA to an 
antiquated version of Firefox on its own.


FF 2.0.0.7 was released over two years ago. It is certainly possible 
that you had a problem viewing a site, were advised to reset the UA to 
the then current version of Firefox, and, over these more then two 
years, forgot that you had done it. I know that I can not certainly 
swear to things I did over two years ago.


Anyhow, if you reset the pref in about:config as I described elsewhere, 
you will find that reverting to 1.1.18 is not an answer to these kind of 
problems.


Lee





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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Bush

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

/snip/

general.useragent.extra.seamonkey userset string firefox/2.0.0.7



AHA!!


Note, *userset*!!! Note that the pref is probably in bold.

That tells us that a user has changed the default setting.

Right click on the pref and choose reset. That will set it back to the
default setting.

Lee



yes the whole line was in Bold ... Everyone in my home Has their own
computers . I am the only one who uses this one .

Could it Be that Win 7 uninstaller left seamonker 2.0 setting in the
Registry ?

look at my answer when I went to my wifes computer that has Seamonkey
1.1.14

I Sent her about seamonkey to me

SeaMonkey 1.1.14

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.19)
Gecko/20081204 SeaMonkey/1.1.14

http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

and the above link works on hers. I almost got Killed for waking her up.
Almost hat a tiger wood situation ..

You think I am a Dick or pulling your chain. But in No way did I So
called Spoof Seamonkey .



I admit, I am getting frustrated, but I sense we are getting some light 
at the end of the tunnel.


The SeaMonkey UA will say SeaMonkey 2.0.  Here is mine, note I am on a Mac:

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4) 
Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre Mnenhy/0.7.6.0 SeaMonkey/2.0


Your wife has SM 1.1.14.  I suggest updating that to 1.1.18, by the way.

The TVGuide page does seem to work without spoofing, but note Danny's 
original post, with the following:


When looking and the program listing if you click on a show it will 
display a opening that show a description. However, in Seamonkey if just 
show a blank.



Just tried my computer at tvguid and clicked a show showing on HBO and I 
get a  RED box with a desription of the movie .


So, rather then just opening the page, you have to go to the program 
listings, then click on a show to see details.  If SM has its proper UA, 
it will show a blank space.  If it is spoofed as FF, it will work.


I wish it were Daytime.. I would go try it on my wifes computer . But I 
do not need her Chasing me down the driveway with a Golf Club .


You, or someone using your computer did change the UA.  There is no 
other way for this to happen.  I can see how SM *might* reset to its 
default on its own, but there is no way it will change the UA to an 
antiquated version of Firefox on its own.


Sorry .. I do all the computer repair here . And no way did I mess with 
any setting other That What is in the Menu's .





FF 2.0.0.7 was released over two years ago. It is certainly possible 
that you had a problem viewing a site, were advised to reset the UA to 
the then current version of Firefox, and, over these more then two 
years, forgot that you had done it. I know that I can not certainly 
swear to things I did over two years ago.


I got interested in my Family history, After I lost my hand. on April 1, 
1998 .  And I created a cd that I gave to all my relatives ( starting 
around 2001) with the info I discovered . and a lot of that info came 
from the Blm site


I only started having problems when I installed seamonkey 2.0 ,  It 
looks suspicious to you, But I have never installed Firefox or 
thunderbird on any of the computers Here . But that is Beside the point 
Because when win 7 was released ( I bought it From microsoft ) I bought 
a new Sata Drive . installed win7 pro  and then Seamonkey 1.1.18  Then I 
saw that 2.0 was on the seamonkey site as the Current release .. 
Uninstalled 1.1.18  and installed 2.0 . Had too many problems access 
e-mail and certain sites, So I uninstalled 2.0 and reinstalled 1.1.18 
and Now u say I spoofed it ...





Anyhow, if you reset the pref in about:config as I described elsewhere, 
you will find that reverting to 1.1.18 is not an answer to these kind of 
problems.



 Right now I donot think I should mess with something that is access 
all the websites . I know u are trying to figure out WHY . and I hope 
your Conversations May help the develpers figure this out in the Future .




Thanks for the help Lee  .I may answer some more of you inquiries later. 
But typing with one hand makes the good Hand Hurt .. I already lost one 
hand and do not want to loose the remaining one .


Lee






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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/30/2009 6:35 PM, Bush wrote:
 Danny Kile wrote:
 Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work 
 in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you 
 click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. 
 However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.

 The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx
 
 Works correctly here
 
 Seamonkey 1.1.18
 Win7 pro

Yes, but you have already shown us that you spoof Firefox even though
you claim not to know what spoofing is.  If you did not spoof Firefox
in SM 1.1.18 it would not work.  And if you did spoof Firefox in SM 2.0
it would work.

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Mozilla-related applications.  You can access Mozdev much
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Re: Certificates.

2009-11-30 Thread Leonidas Jones

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Bush wrote:

NoOp wrote:

On 11/30/2009 06:33 PM, Bush wrote:

Graham wrote:

Bush wrote:

/snip/

/snip/

Just tried my computer at tvguid and clicked a show showing on HBO and I
get a RED box with a desription of the movie .


If you did not reset the about:config pref as i described, yes that is 
what would happen.  The site thinks you are using Firefox, and serves 
you a working version.


/snip/

You, or someone using your computer did change the UA. There is no
other way for this to happen. I can see how SM *might* reset to its
default on its own, but there is no way it will change the UA to an
antiquated version of Firefox on its own.


Sorry .. I do all the computer repair here . And no way did I mess with
any setting other That What is in the Menu's .


I can't say anything more then I have already said, some user reset the 
pref.  *userset* means some *user* *set* the pref.  There is no other 
way for it to happen.






/snip/


I only started having problems when I installed seamonkey 2.0 , It looks
suspicious to you, But I have never installed Firefox or thunderbird on
any of the computers Here . But that is Beside the point Because when
win 7 was released ( I bought it From microsoft ) I bought a new Sata
Drive . installed win7 pro and then Seamonkey 1.1.18 Then I saw that 2.0
was on the seamonkey site as the Current release .. Uninstalled 1.1.18
and installed 2.0 . Had too many problems access e-mail and certain
sites, So I uninstalled 2.0 and reinstalled 1.1.18 and Now u say I
spoofed it ...


You installed SeaMonkey 1.1.18 first. Did you transfer settings and 
files from your previous windows installation?  Specifically, did you 
transfer your 1.1.18 profile from your previous Windows installation?


If so, anything you did with SeaMonkey 1.1.18 was carried over. Heck, 
I've forgotten about more things I've done with computers then I 
remember. I've often switched the UA to troubleshoot an issue, then 
forgot that I did it. Fortunately the Prefbar extension reset it as the 
true UA on a restart, or all of you might be wondering how I am posting 
here in IE6 on XP  :)




Anyhow, if you reset the pref in about:config as I described
elsewhere, you will find that reverting to 1.1.18 is not an answer to
these kind of problems.



Right now I donot think I should mess with something that is access all
the websites . I know u are trying to figure out WHY . and I hope your
Conversations May help the develpers figure this out in the Future .


The problem with a permanent UA spoofing is that the web sites' logs 
will indicate that any visit you make with is with Firefox, not 
SeaMonkey. These web site developers will then have no real reason to 
update their browser sniffers to include SeaMonkey.


What I do when I encounter such a site is to spoof the UA to Firefox. 
If I am successful in getting in, I write the web developer of that site 
to tell them that SeaMonkey can in fact deliver their page accurately, 
and ask them to adjust their browser sniffer accordingly.


I'm not saying that you should go that far.  However, if you leave your 
UA permanently spoofed, you are not helping to broaden web access for 
SeaMonkey. The user does play an important part here.


I would suggest returning to the true UA.  Then, via an extension such 
as Preference Toolbar, or the UA switcher, switch the us on an as needed 
basis.  That way, at least the web logs will indicate a attempted visit 
by SeaMonkey, so an tech evangelism attempt will have more credence.






Thanks for the help Lee .I may answer some more of you inquiries later.
But typing with one hand makes the good Hand Hurt .. I already lost one
hand and do not want to loose the remaining one .




One of our valued contributors here types one handed as well.  (Hi 
Daniel)  I don't have any personal experience with one handed typing, 
but I manage to do badly enough with two hands :)  I do appreciate your 
efforts in improving this valued suite.


Lee

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Bug in text areas

2009-11-30 Thread Rex

I've noticed this when typing in a text area.

I've typed some text, and then changed focus from the textarea.
When I click back on it, nothing happens unless I click exactly where I 
was last editing. I click anywhere else, the textarea does not acquire 
focus, the mouse arrow remains an arrow (doesn't change to the text 
cursor) and the cursor does not appear.


To put it another way, if I click on a text area that has text in it, I 
expect the text cursor to appear where I clicked. This does not happen.
If I click at the last letter that I typed, then the cursor appears, and 
I have to navigate by keyboard to get back to where I want to edit.


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RE: Welcome to the support-seamonkey mailing list

2009-11-30 Thread George Chakonas

HI, 

Im making a website with the a wmv file in the website. The link won't open the 
movie from the page but if I click on the wmv final in the folder it will open 
the movie what is the correct code i need to put after the wmv file to have it 
open in windows media player? Thanks again.






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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/30/2009 6:21 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
 Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0. However, it did not work 
 in Seamonkey 1.1.18 either. When looking and the program listing if you 
 click on a show it will display a opening that show a description. 
 However, in Seamonkey if just show a blank.
 
 The link is: http://www.tvguide.com/listings/default.aspx

This is bug #330094.  It was reported to the Mozilla community about
3-1/2 years ago, for Camino 1.0.  Less than two weeks later, it was also
noted to occur in a very early alpha version of SeaMonkey 2.0 (1.5a).
About a month after this bug was reported, a duplicate bug reported the
problem against Firefox 1.5.0.2.

While the www.tvguide.com site has apparently been upgraded to work with
Firefox, bug #330094 remains open since the site still fails to work
with other Gecko browsers.  The correct fix -- to sniff for Gecko and
not for Firefox -- was never implemented.

Someone who frequently visits the site (which is not me) should report
the problem with a reference to
http://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Sardisson/Gecko_is_Gecko and to the bug
report at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330094.

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code for wmv file to play as a link

2009-11-30 Thread George Chakonas

HI, 

Im making a website with the a wmv file in the website. The
link won't open the movie from the page but if I click on the wmv final
in the folder it will open the movie what is the correct code i need to
put after the wmv file to have it open in windows media player? Thanks
again.



  
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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Danny Kile

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

/snip/


I suggest writing them to tell tem of the problem, it should be easy to
fix on their end. As a short term fix, changing the UA, using either the
UA switcher extension, or the PrefBar will get it to work.

Lee


OK by this if I spoof the UA which I did by installing (User Agent
Switcher) and spoofed IE-7. However, this did not get it to work, the
only way it works is to use Internet Explorer. Any ideas on how to get
this to work, I hate having to run IE. Thank you everyone.


Okay, lets consider why sites sniff for browsers. Their plan is to serve
different versions to users with specific browsers. I got it work by
spoofing Firefox. You spoofed IE, and it did not work, probably because
the version served was for the IE rendering engine.

SeaMonkey has the same gecko rendering engine as Firefox. Always try
spoofing Firefox first, that is most likely to work with SeaMonkey.

By the way, you asked earlier about a version of IE tab that would work
with 2.0, yet you state that you hate running IE. Using IE tab in
SeaMonkey just converts SM to an IE shell, you might as well be running
IE. Not that this is a crime, but just a point to consider.

Lee

I rather run IE in a SM tab, it is more convenient to run. I use User 
Agent Switcher to switch UA, it does not list one for Firefox. It has an 
add function put I do not know what to add, can you help me with this?

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Re: Web site work in IE but not in Seamonkey 2.0

2009-11-30 Thread Danny Kile

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

/snip/

/snip/

I rather run IE in a SM tab, it is more convenient to run. I use User
Agent Switcher to switch UA, it does not list one for Firefox. It has an
add function put I do not know what to add, can you help me with this?


I'm not saying that is wrong to do, but using IETab for a SeaMonkey tab
is basically using IE in a SeaMonkey shell.

I've never used UA switcher, but your current UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 SeaMonkey/2.0

Change that to:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 Firefox/3.5.5

Add that you your UA Switcher, and it should do the trick.

Lee


Thank you, Lee.

Adding that line to the UA Switcher and spoofing FireFox did the trick 
without having to run IE Tab. Thank you again!


Danny
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