Re: Comtacts

[F Murtz]

Daniel wrote:

On 11/03/2017 9:23 PM, F Murtz wrote:

I have just changed from telstra to an FTTP NBN provider which means no
more bigpong email address so I just want to move my address book.
when I want hotmail I just go www.hotmail and eventually starts outlook
mail and I want my address book available.

Or the best method of using web based email, (and my address book?


Are Telstra (Australia's major telco) closing down bigpond.com?? Or,
rather than using the bigpond.com web interface, do you download
everything from bigpond.com onto your computer, i.e. a POP e-mail account??

I would have thought you could still use your bigpond.com web based
email via the NBN with no more difficulty than you currently have.

Except that the bigpond email account closes when you close your ADSL2+ 
 account with telstra and go to a provider using FTTN.

I am now saddled with having web based email.
can I use the seamonkey mail system to access it.
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Re: PING akalla

[djc]

djc wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/13/17 9:03 PM, djc wrote:

TCW wrote:

Planning on building a 2.49 or waiting on 52.0.1?


If/when Adrian builds a Win 64-bit 2.52 I'll put it on this PC - it's 
currently running his 2.51a1 from mid February. Hopefully it will 
include lightning again. I'd even take an updated 2.51 with lightning.


djc



You are aware that SeaMonkey is going to release 2.49 based on Firefox 
52 ESR, as an ESR and provide updates for a year.


What Adrian does is his choice.

I do. This is a purely experimental system mainly runs grid software 
(boinc apps), so it's ideal to test the latest 64bit versions.

Hence the if/when.

Cheers, djc


Ask and ye shall receive.
Thanks Adrian, 2.52a1 64bit now installed.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:55.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/55.0 SeaMonkey/2.52a1

Build identifier: 20170315001902

Now I just have to get lightning working via google provider again.

Cheers, djc
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Re: Seamonkey Newsgroup Posts Saved For Off-Line Viewing

[Daniel]

On 15/03/2017 2:51 AM, MozUser wrote:
>
> How do I set Seamonkey Newsgroup Posts Saved For Off-Line Viewing ?

MozUser, if you want to download all the messages from a particular 
newsgroup onto your hard drive, have a look at 
File->Offline->Download/Sync Now setting. This will allow you to just 
download (I think) upto 500 messages per news group at a time, although 
that 500 number can be changed at Edit->Mail & Newsgroups Account 
Setting, then select "Server Settings" for the News Account you want to 
download and there, under "Server Settings", you can select how many 
messages you download at a time.


> When I went to look at posts before Seamonkey acquired the internet
> connection to the newsgroup I could not read posts that I looked at
> yesterday.

If you download the messages to your Hard Drive, they will be stored 
there, but, if you have SeaMonkey set up as "Online", then when you 
click on a message, SM will try to find it online, and if you are not 
online SeaMonkey will probably tell you you are not online or it cannot 
find the message or some such. So, to use the messages you have 
downloaded onto your hard drive, you need first to go off-line, either 
by File->Offline->Work Offline, or, down in the bottom right of your 
screen you should see what looks like a power lead plugged into itself. 
Click on that to go off-line.


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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[Daniel]

On 15/03/2017 2:37 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking
for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will
get 2.49
eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> > to 2.49? Or do you have some
other build
like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49
candidates
here .



User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49
Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 2.49
as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow along,
releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...


I would have thought 

2.49 ESR=   Release 2.49
2.49.1 ESR =Release 2.50
2.49.2 ESR =Release 2.51
2.49.3 ESR =Release 2.52

etc,. etc,

until we get to about ...
2.49.7 ESR =Release 2.56
2.57 ESR=   Release 2.57
2.57.1 ESR =Release 2.58

Or some such!!

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Re: email sub-folders disappeared

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Pat Connors wrote:

I figured it out by getting out my laptop and comparing settings.
Under 'View', then Show/Hide, the local folders and such were not
clicked. Wonder how that happened when I never even knew they were up
there!


F9 on the keyboard toggles that option, so you might have accidentally 
pressed that at some point. F8 does similar for the message pane.


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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 03/14/2017 03:52 PM, njoracle wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> > to 2.49? Or do you have some other build
like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 candidates
here .



I have Adrian's on two machines (not this one) so that probably explains it.



So Adrian released a 2.49 today, and m64 is probably offering that build 
as FRG indicated earlier.


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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[TCW]

On 3/14/2017 2:52 PM, njoracle wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.



Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> > to 2.49? Or do you have some other build
like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 candidates
here .



I have Adrian's on two machines (not this one) so that probably explains it.



You could always manually grab the update.
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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[njoracle]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>> On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for 
>>> updates
>>> on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
>>> eventually?
>> Got the auto update this morning.
>>
> 
> Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from   > to 2.49? Or do you have some other build
> like Adrian's?
> 
> The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 candidates
> here .
> 
> 
I have Adrian's on two machines (not this one) so that probably explains it.
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Re: Toolbar - Seamonkey Get Msgs - Get All Messages, Does NOT

[EE]

MozUser wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey really get ALL messages ?


It should get all the email messages.  It does for me, anyway.

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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 12:17 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Please do not use any build from www.m64.info site or recommend it. 
He/She/It just copies Adrians builds and is a complete unknown who 
might even distribute malware at any time.


I only recommend Official SeaMonkey builds, so I can provide limited 
support.




Adrian has his own build system. His builds are safe and recommended 
if you need the latest release. The only drawback is that, when a 
crash occurs, no symbols are available.


The current mozilla build system SeaMonkey uses is just fubar so 
expect delays for any official release. Talks are underway to change 
this but its all in peoples spare time so this problem will not be 
solved this week or the next...


FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

The third developer appears to have released a 64-bit 2.49 today.







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Re: Toolbar - Seamonkey Get Msgs - Get All Messages, Does NOT

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 12:07 PM, MozUser wrote:

I am talking about newsgroup posts not eMail.

I do not use Seamonkey for eMail.



Select the newsgroup, right click, select Properties, click the Repair 
Folder button.


A dialog box appears informing you of how many messages there are in the 
newsgroup. Select "Download all headers". If there are a lot of messages 
you may get hangs and script warnings.


If you mean get new messages at startup, select the Account in the 
Folder Pane and check the Server Settings.


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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[TCW]

On 3/14/2017 11:03 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 11:42 AM, TCW wrote:

On 3/14/2017 10:37 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried 
checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will 
get 2.49

eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from  > to 2.49? Or do you have some 
other build

like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
candidates

here .


User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49

Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 
2.49 as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow 
along, releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...




Well, hopefully the build system will be running by then so Adrian 
doesn't have to do it by hand anymore.



I didn't know Adrian was using the build system. I thought he was 
building on his own infrastructure and hosting the releases there.


The SeaMonkey Council is building on Mozilla infrastructure and hosting 
the releases there.


Am I incorrect in that belief?

I know I don't follow this closely enough to be well informed.


Adrian has been building it by hand on a loaner box or from home. So 
he's not using the Mozilla build system.

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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Please do not use any build from www.m64.info site or recommend it. He/She/It 
just copies Adrians builds and is a complete unknown who might even distribute 
malware at any time.


Adrian has his own build system. His builds are safe and recommended if you 
need the latest release. The only drawback is that, when a crash occurs, no 
symbols are available.


The current mozilla build system SeaMonkey uses is just fubar so expect delays 
for any official release. Talks are underway to change this but its all in 
peoples spare time so this problem will not be solved this week or the next...


FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

The third developer appears to have released a 64-bit 2.49 today.





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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 11:42 AM, TCW wrote:

On 3/14/2017 10:37 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried 
checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will 
get 2.49

eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from  > to 2.49? Or do you have some 
other build

like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
candidates

here .


User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49

Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 
2.49 as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow 
along, releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...




Well, hopefully the build system will be running by then so Adrian 
doesn't have to do it by hand anymore.



The third developer appears to have released a 64-bit 2.49 today.



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Re: Toolbar - Seamonkey Get Msgs - Get All Messages, Does NOT

[MozUser]

I am talking about newsgroup posts not eMail.

I do not use Seamonkey for eMail.


MozUser wrote:

How do I make Seamonkey really get ALL messages ?


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Toolbar - Seamonkey Get Msgs - Get All Messages, Does NOT

[MozUser]

How do I make Seamonkey really get ALL messages ?
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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 11:42 AM, TCW wrote:

On 3/14/2017 10:37 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried 
checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will 
get 2.49

eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from  > to 2.49? Or do you have some 
other build

like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
candidates

here .


User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49

Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 
2.49 as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow 
along, releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...




Well, hopefully the build system will be running by then so Adrian 
doesn't have to do it by hand anymore.



I didn't know Adrian was using the build system. I thought he was 
building on his own infrastructure and hosting the releases there.


The SeaMonkey Council is building on Mozilla infrastructure and hosting 
the releases there.


Am I incorrect in that belief?

I know I don't follow this closely enough to be well informed.

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Seamonkey Corrupted ?

[MozUser]

I just posted and I went after a corrupt post that someone else did.

Their pose was
Wrong Page Zaffe, David 7/15/2099 12:28 AM  88699

88699 is the Order received.

And yes it is at the top of the list.

The order was previously sorted a few days before.
When I just now sorted that crazy post did not show up at the top.
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Seamonkey Newsgroup Posts Saved For Off-Line Viewing

[MozUser]

How do I set Seamonkey Newsgroup Posts Saved For Off-Line Viewing ?

When I went to look at posts before Seamonkey acquired the internet 
connection to the newsgroup I could not read posts that I looked at 
yesterday.


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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[TCW]

On 3/14/2017 10:37 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking 
for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will 
get 2.49

eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from  > to 2.49? Or do you have some 
other build

like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
candidates

here .


User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49

Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 2.49 
as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow along, 
releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...




Well, hopefully the build system will be running by then so Adrian 
doesn't have to do it by hand anymore.

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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 10:45 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.


Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from http://www.seamonkey-project.org/> > to 2.49? Or do you have some other build
like Adrian's?

The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 candidates
here .



User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49
Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site



This is going to get even more interesting, once SeaMonkey releases 2.49 
as an ESR, provides updates for a year and Adrian doesn't follow along, 
releasing 2.51, 2.52, 2.53 ...


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Re: out of date?

[TCW]

On 3/13/2017 4:20 PM, Ronnie wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Progress for the 2.48 beta is tracked here:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1336310

Currently on build 2:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.48b1-candidates/build2/


It shouldn't take as long as 2.40 to 2.46 this time :) The beta is
just done now to make sure building works. ewong needs to switch to
new distributions servers (which might still cause a few headaches).

It was decided that 2.48 will be the last gtk2 build so a 2.48 release
will follow the beta. 2.49 hopefully soon afterwards.

FRG

TCW wrote:


Yeah but building Seamonkey has been busted on the official site for
OVER a year+ and the recent successful build of 2.46 took nearly an
act of God for it to be released. If repos continue to wait for those
build to work and build properly again, it may be another year.
Hopefully EWong can fix this bustage but I wouldn't get my hopes up.


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great, however perhaps something as simple as a userstyle to
disable/hide the message might be something worth considering since the
development cycle can lag, given circumstances.



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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[Mr. Ed]

On 03/14/17 10:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>> On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for 
>>> updates
>>> on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
>>> eventually?
>> Got the auto update this morning.
>>
>
> Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from   > to 2.49? Or do you have some other build
> like Adrian's?
>
> The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 candidates
> here .
>
>

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49
Auto update from 2.48 to 2.49 on the unofficial release site

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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[David E. Ross]

On 3/14/2017 7:04 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:
>> On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
>>> I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for 
>>> updates
>>> on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
>>> eventually?
>> Got the auto update this morning.
>>
> 
> Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from   > to 2.49? Or do you have some other 
> build like Adrian's?
> 
> The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
> candidates here .
> 
> 

SeaMonkey 2.46 is the latest at
.  Any later versions
are either development versions (aurora, beta) or else someone's
non-official, personal creation, all of which carry some end-user risk.

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Paraphrasing Mark Twain, who was quoting someone else:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
alternative truths.
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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[WaltS48]

On 3/14/17 9:41 AM, Mr. Ed wrote:

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
eventually?

Got the auto update this morning.



Got an update of SeaMonkey 2.46 from  > to 2.49? Or do you have some other 
build like Adrian's?


The SeaMonkey site is still offering 2.46, and I don't see any 2.49 
candidates here .



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Re: 2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[Mr. Ed]

On 03/14/17 8:48 AM, Arnie Goetchius wrote:
> I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
> on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
> eventually?
Got the auto update this morning.

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2.49 downloaded on 2 out of 4 machines?

[Arnie Goetchius]

I had 2.49 download on 2 out of 4 of my machines. I tried checking for updates
on the other 2 but got nothing. I suppose the other machines will get 2.49
eventually?
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Re: Thank you Thank you (I'm not going crazy!!) was: Re: Seamonkey Download

[Daniel]

On 14/03/2017 3:11 AM, Ray Davison wrote:

Daniel wrote:


In my other thread, it was suggested I set up a new profile. If my
problem is not fixed beforehand, I'll do that when the first ESR
version (2.49, I think) comes out.


Do you not understand you can have as many profiles as you want.  Rather
than mess with a profile that might be OK, copy it with a different
name, and play with that one.  Or, create a new, clean one.


Yes, already have Default plus three others (old ones).

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Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

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