Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Freitag
OldTimer schrieb:
 I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer
 the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders  the Address Book to an HP
 laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail,
 folders and address book set up).
 
 With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the
 following steps:

[...]

Your steps seem to be reasonable, that should work. :-)


 I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it
 and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy
 drive).

Now this is awesome, an example for the digital oblivion...

regards

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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Ray_Net

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Walter wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program 
to use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, 
tef, ? I have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications 
but it makes no difference.


See also Edit | Preferences | Advanced | System...

If that doesn't help, report back with details of what's happening 
and when and one of the experts will jump in and help.


I am trying to read a .tef file created by TablEdit, a program which 
creates tablature for musical instruments. There is a special font 
(tef265.ttf) Which this program uses. It is in my font file. When I 
click on a .tef file


(http://everythingdulcimer.com/tab/Be_thou_my_vision_DAD.tef)

instead of the notes and tab numbers, question marks are in those 
positions. If I do a shift/click then SeaMonkey file download manager 
kicks in and then I can click on launch file and the file is displayed 
correctly with notes and tab numbers and I can play the song and make 
adds/changes. This problem has occurred in the past two months whereby 
it had worked for several years before. I believe I have made a change 
somewhere but I cannot find it.


Under Preferences/helper applications I have added application/tef 
and under file type details I have added open these files with 
tabledit.exe  This makes no difference.


If you need further clarification I will try to supply it.


To me, the question marks sound like a font issue, not a program issue. 
Your system is behaving as if it doesn't have the right font and 
substituting one it does have, and there are no glyphs at those 
positions in the font it does have. On my system, which doesn't have 
that font, SM opens it as a text file and displays in Courier New, so of 
course I get white question marks in black diamonds.


What happens if you launch TablEdit and open the file directly from 
there? (just do CTRL-O and paste the URL into the dialog). If it opens 
fine, SM has a problem and I would look at its font settings (e.g., Edit 
| Appearance | Fonts | Allow documents to use other fonts); if not, then 
it's a system-wide problem and not SM's fault.


But I'm just a power user, not an expert, so take this with a grain of 
salt.


The OP said: and I can play the song and make adds/changes. so, it's a 
program issue and not a font issue. This web document *must* be opened 
by tabledit.exe who finds the neede font. SM cannot do the job. SM try 
to open this file by it's own (with expected bad result)

The OP tell us exactly where to search:
 This problem has occurred in the past two months whereby
 it had worked for several years before. I believe I have made a
 change somewhere but I cannot find it.
Unfortunately, i am not an expert.
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Re: SM2 not showing home page on opening

2009-11-09 Thread Gerald Ross

David E. Ross wrote:

On 11/8/2009 4:34 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:

 My home page is my bookmark file. Setting is for browser to open on
 home page. This has worked for years with multiple versions including
 SM2 until today.

 I changed to the following: show website icons  aggressively look for
 website icons and always load website icons for bookmarks. After doing
 this and restarting, the browser opened with a blank page. If I
 clicked on home page it showed the bookmark file. I went back and
 changed every preference back the way It was originally and browser
 still opens with a blank page. Any suggestions?

 Using winXP




Also using WinXP.

On the menu bar, I went to [Edit  Preferences].  On the Preferences
window, I selected Browser.  On the Browser pane, under Display on, I
selected the Home page radio button for all three items in the
pull-down selection list.  Under Home Page on the saem Browser pane, I
used the Choose File button to navigate to my bookmark.html file.

However, if you browse in more than one profile, you might not get your
home page when you startup except for the profile you were in when you
terminated.  See bug #525242 at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525242.

That is what it is set for, but it quit working. I never have had more 
than one profile. Late last night I did a Windows Restore to earlier 
yesterday, and now Seamonkey works like it used to. Strange.


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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

2009-11-09 Thread M van Ketel

Smiles wrote:

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the
internet and email setup and use.

I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.

I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column
web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.

Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch


Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does
double as a html coding class.

thanks to all that reply :)



I use a custom HTML page as well, with several easy-view, easy-click 
(daily) bookmarks, as well as some notes (to-do-list or something like 
that) and script (e.g. birthdaylist), etc.


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Re: Am I the only one using a portal home page

2009-11-09 Thread Smiles

M van Ketel wrote:

Smiles wrote:

Good day

I volunteer as a computer instructor and have two 4 hour classes on the
internet and email setup and use.

I have for 10 years demonstrate and recommend having a local html
document as your homepage for which ever browser you you use.

I do give them a sample to start with it basically sets up a four column
web page to which you can populate with your daily websites you visit.

Mine has about 20 for daily visits plus 20 others I select from for
daily phone support with a total of about 50 which are used within the
week. One of them links to by bookmarks for fast launch


Do any one in the group use a similar plan and document?

My boss said it of no value and is best removed, this feature does
double as a html coding class.

thanks to all that reply :)



I use a custom HTML page as well, with several easy-view, easy-click 
(daily) bookmarks, as well as some notes (to-do-list or something like 
that) and script (e.g. birthdaylist), etc.


Mark
thank you glad to hear someone uses this idea I never thought to add a 
few troubleshooting scripts to the page

great idea thanks Smiles
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Re: How hard is it to port FF extensions..?

2009-11-09 Thread Hartmut Figge
Rex:

I've subscribed to the feed for Seamonkey 2.0 addons and I keep waiting 
impatiently for updates to some of my favorite Firefox/Thunderbird addons.
Some of the ones I'd like are Quote colors, Quote collapse (very good 
for reading newsgroups), image toolbar, extended statusbar, download 
statusbar and so on.

Impatient people may hack like this ...

Is it possible to hack these to run with SM2.0 by adding an entry for 
targetApplication in the install.rdf file?
Something like this:
 em:targetApplication
!-- Seamonkey --
   Description
   em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
   em:minVersion1.0/em:minVersion
   em:maxVersion2.1a1pre/em:maxVersion
   Description
/em:targetApplication

... or simply, if lazy *g*, use this Pref ...

- user.js -
user_pref(extensions.checkCompatibility, false);
---

... but this by no means implies that they will work with SM2. It may
be, but it may not and it could even be dangerous.

Hartmut
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Adding Helper Applications

2009-11-09 Thread Mr. Cheese
In previous versions 1.x.x one could add helper applications and MIME 
types. I don't see how to do this in SM 2. What am I missing?

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Re: New Seamonkey

2009-11-09 Thread Benoit Renard

Phillip Jones wrote:
The Modern Theme included does have the Grippies. Finally the Moz crew 
came to their senses.


The Moz crew? Welcome to the SeaMonkey crew. We are not Mozilla.
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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

2009-11-09 Thread Andrea Govoni
on 09/11/09 05:08 NoOp said the following:
 
 On 11/08/2009 07:10 PM, Kent Briggs wrote:
 
 Yeah, that's nothing. The delays show up when you got multiple groups 
 with 50,000 or more posts in them.
 
 You may have missed this from my previous post:
 gmane.linux.ubuntu.user - 200054 (goes back to 2004)
 That is:
 200,054
  and is 4 times your 50,000 posts.
 
 Scroll up to the top to the group, click  instantaneously get:
 Newsgroups: gmane.linux.ubuntu.user
 Subject: Re: D-Link Airplus DWL-G650+

I think you're misunderstanding Kent's complaint.
The big delay and high CPU activity that Kent is referring to is when
newsgroups with many thousands of messages already downloaded are
checked for new messages. It's not when a message is displayed or when
SM2.0 downloads the number of headers you want the *first* time that a
newsgroup is checked.

AFAIK, SM2.0 check for new newsgroup messages in several cases:
• at startup, if the Check for new messages at startup setting is
checked for the relevant newserver;
• every x minutes, if the Check for new messages every x minutes is
checked for the relevant newserver;
• when the newserver is expanded in the Folder Pane, if the about:config
- news.update_unread_on_expand setting is true (that's the default in
SM2.0);
• when the user click on a newsgroup in the Folder Pane (I don't know if
this is always true, or only if about:config -
news.update_unread_on_expand is false).

That said, the point is that SM2.0 is considerably slower and consumes a
very bigger amount of CPU time than SM1.1.18 to perform this task.
Moreover, if the CPU isn't powerful enough, SM becomes unresponsive for
a varying amount of seconds until the check is done.
I think this is the very same issue that was causing the application
stalls and CPU burst discussed in this thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.seamonkey/browse_thread/thread/b2ca52cd58029e13/

I haven't tried to reproduce this issue with a fresh new profile, yet,
but I think I experienced it after the profile migration from SM1.1.18
to SM2.0: with the Check for new messages every x minutes setting
checked (just like it was on SM1.1.18), SM2.0 was unusable for the
frequent stalls.

We absolutely need a bug report about this.
I'm not a very good English writer, but if there are no other
voluntaries I'll file it after testing with a new profile and drop here
the bug number.


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Re: Adding Helper Applications

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Freitag
Mr. Cheese schrieb:
 In previous versions 1.x.x one could add helper applications and MIME
 types. I don't see how to do this in SM 2. What am I missing?


Download a file of the type you want in SM2 and it will be added as you
have to choose what to do with it at that point...
regards

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Re: How hard is it to port FF extensions..?

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Freitag
Hartmut Figge schrieb:
 Rex:
 
 I've subscribed to the feed for Seamonkey 2.0 addons and I keep waiting 
 impatiently for updates to some of my favorite Firefox/Thunderbird addons.
 Some of the ones I'd like are Quote colors, Quote collapse (very good 
 for reading newsgroups), image toolbar, extended statusbar, download 
 statusbar and so on.
 
 ... but this by no means implies that they will work with SM2. It may
 be, but it may not and it could even be dangerous.


I can confirm that Quote Colors works in SM2 :-)
Never used the other ones, you have to try it yourself ;-)
DownloadStatusbar is going to come if I'm not mistaken...
regards

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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

2009-11-09 Thread Keith Whaley

»Q« wrote:

In news:3iadnwfge7zk_grxnz2dnuvz_vsdn...@mozilla.org,
James res07...@gte.net wrote:


I still would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if there is a way
to PROPERLY reply [without creating the problem with new threads]
from the mailing list interface.




If you're receiving all the list e-mails, instead of just digests,
simply replying should work fine without creating new threads. 


It doesn't. I don't receive digests, but daily input to my mailing list, and 
it does the same thing James has a problem with. My convoluted way of using 
the mailing list is no fun either, but it does not seem to create any changes 
to how the message is threaded, nor any change to the Subject line.

I see no need for this annoyance, but it continues.


(You weren't actually creating new threads, but your replies were
threaded under the digest posts, which most people don't have copies of.)




If there is not then why the heck is it even provided?  Members of
this list obviously don't want to have to struggle with a new thread
with every reply.


Digests are mostly useful for people who want to keep up with what's
going on in a list without actually participating.  People who want to
subscribe to the digests only but still reply to them should do what
you did, changing the Subject, but also mention in the body that
they're replying to digests so the regulars don't get bent out of shape.


keith whaley


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Seamonkey 2 and Googlebar

2009-11-09 Thread Chris Garriss
This may have been asked before, if so I missed the answer - and could
not find it with a search.  Is there an addon for Seamonkey 2 like
Google Toolbar, Googlebar, Googlebar Lite, etc?  Neither Google Toolbar,
Googlebar nor Googlebat Lite will funtion / install in Seamonkey 2.
Thanks, Chris
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Re: Seamonkey 2 and Googlebar

2009-11-09 Thread Martin Freitag
Chris Garriss schrieb:
 This may have been asked before, if so I missed the answer - and could
 not find it with a search.  Is there an addon for Seamonkey 2 like
 Google Toolbar, Googlebar, Googlebar Lite, etc?  Neither Google Toolbar,
 Googlebar nor Googlebat Lite will funtion / install in Seamonkey 2.
 Thanks, Chris

Like what? What kind of functionality of those bars exactly do you need?
The searching itself can be done in SMs addressbar (just check the
prefernces) or via a bookmarklet (e.g. create a bookmark with the
keyword g and the address http://www.google.com/search?q=%s then you can
search via
g how to cook Enter
to get your results. (how to cook are the search terms ;-))
If you need other things those bars provide you need to mention them ;-)
regards

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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Walter

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program to
use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, tef, ? I
have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it makes
no difference.

w.

sm 1.1.18 win xp, sp3




I am assumong that it not behaves as Firefox does.  You can edit 
existing entries, but you cannot add them.  Rather, the first time an 
unknown file type is encountered, you make a selection which is added to 
the list.


Do I understand that you have tried to edit an existing entry, but the 
setting doesn't stick?  If so, try setting the file type in question to 
always ask, then navigate to such a file type and set it that way.


Lee


To all who posted a reply to my query:

Please read again my original post, quoted above.

Example:  When I click on a link to a .pdf file, SM knows it is a .pdf 
file and calls Adobe Reader to read the file.  I want SM to recognize a 
.tef file and call tabledit to read the file.  Where is the setting to 
do this?  It is not in edit/preferences/helper applications as I have 
the .tef files identified there as: application/tef and file type 
details as: open these files with tabledit.exe


This is as clear as I can describe the problem.  All suggestions welcome.

Walter.
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Re: How hard is it to port FF extensions..?

2009-11-09 Thread Phillip Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rex wrote:

I've subscribed to the feed for Seamonkey 2.0 addons and I keep waiting
impatiently for updates to some of my favorite Firefox/Thunderbird addons.
Some of the ones I'd like are Quote colors, Quote collapse (very good
for reading newsgroups), image toolbar, extended statusbar, download
statusbar and so on.

Is it possible to hack these to run with SM2.0 by adding an entry for
targetApplication in the install.rdf file?
Something like this:
   em:targetApplication
!-- Seamonkey --
Description
em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
em:minVersion1.0/em:minVersion
em:maxVersion2.1a1pre/em:maxVersion
Description
/em:targetApplication





Last time I used Quote Collapse it caused major problem for me. So I
don't it it works with SM2 or not

Quote Colors does indeed work You have to go to Quote Colors page and
look for reference at bottom of page to 0.3.b2 then click on the hot
linked item to have it install. You'll have to click a time or two to
get around some warning about possible malicious code. But that goes up
with any Extension or Theme  that is not listed on Mozilla website. The
deem anything not on the _Official_ site as Malicious. (suppose they
want to cut down competition :)



need to correct this item:
Last time I used Quote Collapse it caused major problem for me. So I 
_don't know if it works_ with SM2 or not


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Re: SM2 Slow Newsgroup Reader

2009-11-09 Thread Kent Briggs

Andrea Govoni wrote:


I think you're misunderstanding Kent's complaint.
The big delay and high CPU activity that Kent is referring to is when
newsgroups with many thousands of messages already downloaded are
checked for new messages. It's not when a message is displayed or when
SM2.0 downloads the number of headers you want the *first* time that a
newsgroup is checked.


Exactly. Thank you.

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Bug:Dragging a link to addressbar simply appends it to existing URL.

2009-11-09 Thread Rex
I like how one can select a text link on a page and drag it to the tab 
bar for it to open in a new tab- or drag an existing link to do the same.
However when I try dragging a link to the address bar (to make it open 
in the current tab), it just gets appended there.

Let's say I'm on www.example.com, and there's a link to www.anothersite.net
When I drag the link to addressbar, the text there changes to:
http://www.example.comhttp://www.anothersite.net

This feature works fine in Firefox, I've used it several times there.



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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Phillip Jones

Walter wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program to
use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, tef, ? I
have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it makes
no difference.

w.

sm 1.1.18 win xp, sp3




I am assumong that it not behaves as Firefox does.  You can edit
existing entries, but you cannot add them.  Rather, the first time an
unknown file type is encountered, you make a selection which is added to
the list.

Do I understand that you have tried to edit an existing entry, but the
setting doesn't stick?  If so, try setting the file type in question to
always ask, then navigate to such a file type and set it that way.

Lee


To all who posted a reply to my query:

Please read again my original post, quoted above.

Example:  When I click on a link to a .pdf file, SM knows it is a .pdf
file and calls Adobe Reader to read the file.  I want SM to recognize a
.tef file and call tabledit to read the file.  Where is the setting to
do this?  It is not in edit/preferences/helper applications as I have
the .tef files identified there as: application/tef and file type
details as: open these files with tabledit.exe

This is as clear as I can describe the problem.  All suggestions welcome.

Walter.
Have you simply attempted to open the file. Once you open the file then 
you go to preferences  Browser  helper Applications scroll down the 
list click on item in right column it turns into a Button . Click on 
button and choose application to open.


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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

2009-11-09 Thread OldTimer

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

I have Netscape 4.5 on an old IBM PC with Win 95 and I want to transfer
the Mail messages, Inbox, Mail folders  the Address Book to an HP
laptop with Win XP Home SP2 and Seamonkey 2.0 (which already has mail,
folders and address book set up).

With help from references supplied by Martin I have completed the
following steps:

As the old PC only has a floppy drive (A:), I have exported the address
book (LDIF) to a floppy disc by the following steps: Opened Netscape and
clicked on Address Book, selected the address book and from the File
menu I chose Export. In the Export As window, I typed a file name
and exported it to the floppy drive (A:).

For the mail files, I went to C:\Program Files\Netscape\Users\ and
opened User1  User2 folders and copied the Inbox.sbd, Inbox, Sent,
Unsent Messages,  Draft files (not .msf) to the floppy disc. Where
there was any duplication of file names with those on the laptop, I
renamed them (eg. InboxOld1, xxxOld2).

I then zipped the mail files on the floppy to a zip folder and copied it
and the Address Book to a CD-RW disc (the laptop does not have a floppy
drive).

I now intend to open the compressed files on the CD with the laptop and
copy them into the equivilant folders/files in my Profiles folder
(abook.mab, Inbox, Sent, etc.).

I hope this all makes sense as I would appreciate some feedback before I
proceed, to assure me that I'm on the right track and have taken the
right steps so far.

An old-timer trying to keep up.
Ed



Darn, Win 95. I never really used it. I did use Win 98.

I would be better if this was Mac OS9. ;)

You will be able to install Netscape 7.2 on Windows 95. If you did, it
would offer to convert your NC 4.5 profile for use in NS 7.2. This would
convert the profile data into formats that SeaMonkey 2.0 could
understand, and enable it to be migrated to a SeaMonkey 2.0 profile,
making the whole thing easier.

Assuming the Win 95 machine can connect to the internet, try downloading
Netscape 7.2:

http://browser.netscape.com/releases

Install it, and convert the existing NC 4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use.

Open NS 7.2 and see if all is working as expected, are the bookmarks
there, is the mail account there, is all the mail there, etc?

If all is good then you copy the entire profile folder. Oh yeah, you
only have a floppy drive available. It probably won't fit.

Well, see if you can go this far, and the we can regroup. I', here for
you. In this case the sig is justified.

Lee



Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5 and 
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the and convert the existing NS 
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use.  It sounds like there's more for me to do 
than to just think that this happens automatically.  What are the steps 
to do this?


Ed
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Re: Seamonkey 2 and Googlebar

2009-11-09 Thread Chris Garriss
On 09.11.2009 10:07  Martin Freitag spoke thusly:

 Chris Garriss schrieb:
 This may have been asked before, if so I missed the answer - and could
 not find it with a search.  Is there an addon for Seamonkey 2 like
 Google Toolbar, Googlebar, Googlebar Lite, etc?  Neither Google Toolbar,
 Googlebar nor Googlebat Lite will funtion / install in Seamonkey 2.
 Thanks, Chris
 
 Like what? What kind of functionality of those bars exactly do you need?
 The searching itself can be done in SMs addressbar (just check the
 prefernces) or via a bookmarklet (e.g. create a bookmark with the
 keyword g and the address http://www.google.com/search?q=%s then you can
 search via
 g how to cook Enter
 to get your results. (how to cook are the search terms ;-))
 If you need other things those bars provide you need to mention them ;-)
 regards
 
 Martin
I have not installed the new version yet, since my brother did and found
the Googlebar did not work.  I used it quite a bit for site search,
scholar search and University search.  To a lesser extent page
information.

Chris
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Re: Transferring From NS 4.5 (Win95) to SM 2.0 (XP)

2009-11-09 Thread Leonidas Jones

OldTimer wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

OldTimer wrote:

/snip/

Downloading and installing NS 7.2 sounds easy enough (uninstall 4.5 and
install 7.2), but I'm not sure about the and convert the existing NS
4.5 profile to NS 7.2 use. It sounds like there's more for me to do
than to just think that this happens automatically. What are the steps
to do this?

Ed


When you first install NS 7.2, and run it for the first time, it will 
look for a profile.  If it finds none in the 7.2 profile location, it 
will look in the Communicator profile location.  If it finds a 
Communicator profile, and it will, it will offer to convert the profile 
for 7.2's use.


All your data, your mail, your bookmarks, etc., will be copied and 
converted to a format that NS 7.2 can understand.  SeaMonkey 1.1.18 can 
also use this profile.


Leave NC 4.5 installed for now.  Install 7.2 and run it, allowing it to 
convert your profile.  Open 7.2 and verify that the data is there.  Then 
you transfer this profile to the new machine.  Install 7.2 on the new 
machine, and point it to the profile you have moved.  I can point you to 
directions on how to do this.


Once you are sure you no longer need the data in the old NC 4.5 profile, 
you can uninstall 4.5.


Lee
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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Leonidas Jones

Walter wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program to
use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, tef, ? I
have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it makes
no difference.

w.

sm 1.1.18 win xp, sp3




I am assumong that it not behaves as Firefox does. You can edit
existing entries, but you cannot add them. Rather, the first time an
unknown file type is encountered, you make a selection which is added
to the list.

Do I understand that you have tried to edit an existing entry, but the
setting doesn't stick? If so, try setting the file type in question to
always ask, then navigate to such a file type and set it that way.

Lee


To all who posted a reply to my query:

Please read again my original post, quoted above.

Example: When I click on a link to a .pdf file, SM knows it is a .pdf
file and calls Adobe Reader to read the file. I want SM to recognize a
.tef file and call tabledit to read the file. Where is the setting to do
this? It is not in edit/preferences/helper applications as I have the
.tef files identified there as: application/tef and file type details
as: open these files with tabledit.exe

This is as clear as I can describe the problem. All suggestions welcome.

Walter.


I did read your original post.

Well, I will try to make my response clearer.  There is no place to add 
a file type in the list and to add an application.


Does the tef file type appear in your list? If so, your are supposed to 
be able to edit the existing entry in PreferencesBrowserHelper 
Applications.  Highlight the entry for the tef file type.  You should 
get a dropdown to select the desired action, one of which should allow 
you to browse to location of the application you wish to use to open 
that file type. Did you do this?


From what you said earlier:

I have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it 
makes no difference.


it would seem that you tried to do this and it didn't stick.  If that is 
the case, my suggestion was to set it to ask every time, then navigate 
to an example of that file type in the internet, and try to set the 
appropriate application when it asks, to see if that will stick.


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Re: How hard is it to port FF extensions..?

2009-11-09 Thread Leonidas Jones

Phillip Jones wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Rex wrote:

/snp/

Last time I used Quote Collapse it caused major problem for me. So I
don't it it works with SM2 or not

Quote Colors does indeed work You have to go to Quote Colors page and
look for reference at bottom of page to 0.3.b2 then click on the hot
linked item to have it install. You'll have to click a time or two to
get around some warning about possible malicious code. But that goes up
with any Extension or Theme that is not listed on Mozilla website. The
deem anything not on the _Official_ site as Malicious. (suppose they
want to cut down competition :)



need to correct this item:
Last time I used Quote Collapse it caused major problem for me. So I
_don't know if it works_ with SM2 or not



Quote Collapse does work, if you disable compatibility as Harmut 
suggestd, or by using the Mr Tech extension.  That is also true of Quote 
Colors.  The others losted by the OP are not extensions I have used.


You might take a look at the Firefox and Thunderbird extension listed on 
Phil Chee's xSidebar pages:


http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/

Many of these have been adapted to work with 2.0, even if xsidebar is 
not installed.


Lee
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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

2009-11-09 Thread William Morrison

Keith Whaley wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

James wrote:






James, for future reference, when posting here with a problem, ALWAYS
use reply, so that your messages stay in one threading, so people can
chase up whats been suggested before so they don't repeat what others
have said.

Then, to stop each post getting too long, you can snip (i.e. cut 
and

delete) out the old stuff (as Lee did a few posts back), just leaving
enough for people to follow whats going on.

Good to see you've fixed your problem.

Daniel


For the record, James was using the mailing list interface, and
receiving a digest of posts periodically. Using the Reply key was 
going

to send a reply to the entire digest, and would not have threaded
anyhow. We got him set up on the news server and all is well.

Lee


.
.
And it is much appreciated.

I still would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if there is a way to
PROPERLY reply [without creating the problem with new threads] from the
mailing list interface.

If there is not then why the heck is it even provided? Members of this
list obviously don't want to have to struggle with a new thread with
every reply.

Incidentally, I always used reply on the mailing list just as I have
here; that doesn't work on the mailing list.

Thanks,
James


I know Reply All worked in the email client going through 
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org but you had to remove the 
originating sender so they don't get double of what you send but 
don't know if it works the same in newsgroup so I'm sending this 
through newsgroup. If you get this from the newsgroup and as a direct 
email James and this threads correctly I would suggest using the 
Reply All. If not then your guess is as good as mine.


It worked just fine that way, William, since you started from within 
the newsgroup.
But since I can answer the support list messages from either the 
newsgroup OR the mailing list, and if I'm already IN the mailing list, 
why not answer it from there instead of exiting the mailing list and 
opening the newsgroup, to answer ONE message, and going back to the list?

They both cover the very same words, so why is a mirror necessary?

Better said, when one is in the mail list already, and selects 'Reply' 
why is the header set up to put the last individual poster to any 
thread in the To slot instead of the CC slot?
Or, why send a personal copy to the last person to post to the group 
at all?

What's the point?

Put another way, why should I even belong to the newsgroup so long as 
support-seamon...@lists... exists? I get my messages at both places 
right now. If I dropped the newsgroup, but kept getting all the 
support- messages by way of the mail list, I don't NEED the newsgroup 
to communicate.


All this discussion to avoid fixing the situation so that selecting 
Reply replies to the support group instead of one person (the last 
poster). Odd.


keith whaley

What you said is very true but as you can see or maybe can't see is that 
I am not responding to you thru the NG this time but using the list to 
do so and that your not going to get a direct mailing of it because I 
simply clicked on reply all and then deleted your address from the 
sending address bar. I'm not sure how the list is setup but know from 
experience with Yahoo Groups that this problem may not be a problem of 
SeaMonkey's but of Google's where the list, I believe, originates and a 
simple change in the settings of the reply to preference by the 
moderator of the list could repair. I'm on over one hundred Groups on 
Yahoo and each has their settings different so I have to watch when 
replying to them if clicking reply just sends it to the posting member 
or back to the Group for distribution to all members.


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Importing a profile from a different computer

2009-11-09 Thread Ken
	I am using SeaMonkey 2.0 and have had very few problems except for the 
one regarding copying and pasting text.  I have read comments about 
McAfee (which I have) and their site adviser, but I do not have that 
installed.  At any rate, the copying/pasting problem is so random that I 
can live with it.


	I would now like to load SeaMonkey 2.0 on a laptop computer and use all 
the profile data from my desktop computer on it.  If I was to copy the 
.slt folder from my desktop to a memory stick, could I direct SeaMonkey 
2.0 to import that profile to the laptop?  Thanks.



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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread William Morrison

Walter wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program to
use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, tef, ? I
have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it makes
no difference.

w.

sm 1.1.18 win xp, sp3




I am assumong that it not behaves as Firefox does.  You can edit 
existing entries, but you cannot add them.  Rather, the first time an 
unknown file type is encountered, you make a selection which is added 
to the list.


Do I understand that you have tried to edit an existing entry, but 
the setting doesn't stick?  If so, try setting the file type in 
question to always ask, then navigate to such a file type and set it 
that way.


Lee


To all who posted a reply to my query:

Please read again my original post, quoted above.

Example:  When I click on a link to a .pdf file, SM knows it is a .pdf 
file and calls Adobe Reader to read the file.  I want SM to recognize 
a .tef file and call tabledit to read the file.  Where is the setting 
to do this?  It is not in edit/preferences/helper applications as I 
have the .tef files identified there as: application/tef and file type 
details as: open these files with tabledit.exe


This is as clear as I can describe the problem.  All suggestions welcome.

Walter.
Excuse me for jumping in in the middle of this but wouldn't this be an 
Open With setting in Windows to control what app to open it with and 
that SeaMonkey would pick up the queuing from there as to what to open 
it with or what options to give you?


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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Walter

William Morrison wrote:

Walter wrote:

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Walter wrote:

Where in preferences or elsewhere do I tell SeaMonkey which program to
use in opening a particular kind of file, i.e. .jpg, exe, doc, tef, ? I
have tried the setting in preferences/helper applications but it makes
no difference.



Walter.



Excuse me for jumping in in the middle of this but wouldn't this be an 
Open With setting in Windows to control what app to open it with and 
that SeaMonkey would pick up the queuing from there as to what to open 
it with or what options to give you?



Big Bill,

I think you have maybe come up on the solution.  To get back to my 
original question, where is this setting, (in this case, Windows)? I 
have looked under system on the control panel but cannot find it there. 
Where else can I look? I remember seeing this option from time to time 
but I cannot find it now.


THanks to all, keep the suggestions coming.

w.
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Password pre-fill doesn't work with transformed documents

2009-11-09 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
I've noticed saved passwords are not pre-filled into transformed 
documents using Firefox 3.5 and SeaMonkey 2.0, while this worked 
just fine with the Password Manager of SeaMonkey 1.1 (and I guess 
with Firefox 2).  I've encountered this with my bank's online 
banking service:


https://remote.bank.allianz.bg/EBank/

They serve up XML content providing an XSLT xml-stylesheet which 
generates the HTML output in the browser (client-side).


Is anyone aware of Bugzilla entry or something regarding this issue?

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Re: WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

2009-11-09 Thread Keith Whaley

William Morrison wrote:

Keith Whaley wrote:

William Morrison wrote:

James wrote:






James, for future reference, when posting here with a problem, ALWAYS
use reply, so that your messages stay in one threading, so people can
chase up whats been suggested before so they don't repeat what others
have said.

Then, to stop each post getting too long, you can snip (i.e. cut 
and

delete) out the old stuff (as Lee did a few posts back), just leaving
enough for people to follow whats going on.

Good to see you've fixed your problem.

Daniel


For the record, James was using the mailing list interface, and
receiving a digest of posts periodically. Using the Reply key was 
going

to send a reply to the entire digest, and would not have threaded
anyhow. We got him set up on the news server and all is well.

Lee


.
.
And it is much appreciated.

I still would appreciate it if anyone can tell me if there is a way to
PROPERLY reply [without creating the problem with new threads] from the
mailing list interface.

If there is not then why the heck is it even provided? Members of this
list obviously don't want to have to struggle with a new thread with
every reply.

Incidentally, I always used reply on the mailing list just as I have
here; that doesn't work on the mailing list.

Thanks,
James


I know Reply All worked in the email client going through 
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org but you had to remove the 
originating sender so they don't get double of what you send but 
don't know if it works the same in newsgroup so I'm sending this 
through newsgroup. If you get this from the newsgroup and as a direct 
email James and this threads correctly I would suggest using the 
Reply All. If not then your guess is as good as mine.


It worked just fine that way, William, since you started from within 
the newsgroup.
But since I can answer the support list messages from either the 
newsgroup OR the mailing list, and if I'm already IN the mailing list, 
why not answer it from there instead of exiting the mailing list and 
opening the newsgroup, to answer ONE message, and going back to the list?

They both cover the very same words, so why is a mirror necessary?

Better said, when one is in the mail list already, and selects 'Reply' 
why is the header set up to put the last individual poster to any 
thread in the To slot instead of the CC slot?
Or, why send a personal copy to the last person to post to the group 
at all?

What's the point?

Put another way, why should I even belong to the newsgroup so long as 
support-seamon...@lists... exists? I get my messages at both places 
right now. If I dropped the newsgroup, but kept getting all the 
support- messages by way of the mail list, I don't NEED the newsgroup 
to communicate.


All this discussion to avoid fixing the situation so that selecting 
Reply replies to the support group instead of one person (the last 
poster). Odd.


keith whaley


What you said is very true but as you can see or maybe can't see is that 
I am not responding to you thru the NG this time but using the list to 
do so and that your not going to get a direct mailing of it because I 
simply clicked on reply all and then deleted your address from the 
sending address bar. I'm not sure how the list is setup but know from 
experience with Yahoo Groups that this problem may not be a problem of 
SeaMonkey's but of Google's where the list, I believe, originates and a 
simple change in the settings of the reply to preference by the 
moderator of the list could repair. 


That's possible. I guess that first the oddity of the action of having a 
mail-list as well as a newsgroup mirroring each other's messages must be resolved.


IOW, what does the newsgroup do that the email list couldn't, or doesn't 
already?
Does eliminating one or the other harm the participants of either? How?

I'm on over one hundred Groups on
Yahoo and each has their settings different so I have to watch when 
replying to them if clicking reply just sends it to the posting member 
or back to the Group for distribution to all members.


Right. So, considering that AT THE MOLMENT I get news messages in teh 
newsgroup as well as in the mail list, I'm going to quit/delete my connection 
to the newsgroup, and see whether I still get messages!

If I still do, let's see what the header shows this time!

Thanks for the post.

Oh wait! I see that in THIS post's header, the newsgroup is NOT shown, but 
Google or Yahoo, whichever, manages to put YOUR name on top, and that's the 
person who gets any further answers, not the group at all!


Support-seamonkey... does get listed as a CC, but, not in the header of my 
reply. My reply was ONLY addressed to you, personally!


So everyone can see what's happening, I'll ADD support-seamonkey... to the 
header as CC, but as it was first delivered to me, to send back, it only had 
your (William's) name on the mail!


There's STILL something screwed up, isn't there.



Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread Walter

William Morrison wrote:


Big Bill,

I think you have maybe come up on the solution.  To get back to my 
original question, where is this setting, (in this case, Windows)? I 
have looked under system on the control panel but cannot find it 
there. Where else can I look? I remember seeing this option from time 
to time but I cannot find it now.


THanks to all, keep the suggestions coming.

Right click on one of these files, saved anywhere on you hard drive or 
disk drive, you want to open. The third option down is Open With click 
it and click it again in the next window then select the correct program 
to open it with and also check the box on the lower part of this window 
marked something like Use this Program to Open This File All of the Time



Bill

No luck there. I am beginning to think the setup I have is not 
recognizing the font file it requires. I have copied the font file to 
several places in SM but haven't found the correct one yet.


w.
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Re: file reading assignment?

2009-11-09 Thread JeffM
William Morrison wrote:
Open With
Use this Program to Open This File All of the Time

Walter wrote:
No luck there.

Vague statements don't help.
What is the name and extension of the file?
Did the file open?
Did it open but look like crap?
How did you determine the app to use to open it?

This is NOT a Mozilla problem
and should be handled in a group with MICROSOFT in its name.
Your Windoze Registry has been screwed up
--or you never installed an app to use this filetype.
Start there.
 http://filext.com/file-extension/tef
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Re: How hard is it to port FF extensions..?

2009-11-09 Thread Philip Chee
On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:16:18 +0530, Rex wrote:
 I've subscribed to the feed for Seamonkey 2.0 addons and I keep waiting 
 impatiently for updates to some of my favorite Firefox/Thunderbird addons.
 Some of the ones I'd like are Quote colors, Quote collapse (very good 
 for reading newsgroups), image toolbar, extended statusbar, download 
 statusbar and so on.
 
 Is it possible to hack these to run with SM2.0 by adding an entry for 
 targetApplication in the install.rdf file?
 Something like this:
  em:targetApplication
 !-- Seamonkey --
   Description
   em:id{92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a}/em:id
   em:minVersion1.0/em:minVersion
   em:maxVersion2.1a1pre/em:maxVersion
   Description
 /em:targetApplication

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Extensions_support_in_SeaMonkey_2

I have just finished a working port of download statusbar. I shall
upload it to my website later tonight.

There should be a version of Quote Colours for SeaMonkey 2.0 available
from their website. No idea of the rest.

Phil

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Seamonkey 2.0 in Debian and ubuntu I really miss the installer!

2009-11-09 Thread Rod Lovett

Hi,
Seamonkey 2.0 does not take mail settings, and others with it 
any more in Linux when it is decompressed, like all Seamonkey versions 
up till SM 1.1.18.

So this is a real pest and inconvenience.
  I know Linux is a poor relation to MS windows, which SM 2.0 
installer does take all the settings.


 The installer was really great in the Linux version, and 
transcended all the uncertainty waiting for an up to date packaged 
version that usually never happens with SM.
I am staying with 1.1.18 for now, and hoping either an installer is 
reconsidered, or I must decide what to do, as this is not good enough to 
lose your old mail.

I wonder if someone has a solution for the poor old Linux version.

Here's hoping
Regards
Rod
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