Re: Here we go again...crash...crash...crash...SM 2.0.10 Mac

2010-11-26 Thread Stéphane Grégoire
Hi,

Philip Chee a tapoté, le 26/11/2010 02:53:
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=614845
 Some helpful person has added the crash signature to the summary (which
 you forgot to do).


I've searched a field summary, but the summary is the title!


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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Jean-Marc Desperrier

Jane_Galt wrote:

Oh, at the end of that video by Shaw, he gave the nazi salute. Seems he was
a big fan of Hitler too.


It's not extremely strong evidence. Whereas in the case of Henry Ford 
and James Mooney of General Motors, the evidence is personal 
acknowledgment by Hitler.

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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Lucas Levrel

Le 26 novembre 2010, Jane_Galt a écrit :


Webshots built a huge base of excellent wallpaper photos ( now in HD too )
and then got bought out by American Greetings, which IMO screwed up their
site with too much high techy crapola.


Another great victory of the free market.

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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jane_Galt wrote:


No, an investment can only be private. Private parties invest the money
they've EARNED. Government loots people and destroys wealth. They cant
invest, they can only consume other peoples' wealth, taken at gunpoint.

It's like calling a burglar an investor when he takes your TV set and
buys himself a car with the money he sold it for.
...


[big snip]

There are lots of places to post this political crap, but 
mozilla.seamonkey.support is not one of them. Try Glenn Beck's website 
or something.


Let's get back on topic, people!

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Re: Testing SeaMonkey 2.0.11 candidates - help wanted!

2010-11-26 Thread Robert Kaiser

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

p.s. It is looking like we'll need a build_2 to match what Firefox is
doing. They claim the change won't need additional QA time and is
extremely minor. But I haven't read too much on the issue yet.


The only change expected in there is one to satisfy Hawaii government 
users, I think we can safely ignore it for this one (unless you prefer 
the exercise on doing release build runs). ;-)


Robert Kaiser


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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/25/10 8:39 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
 David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid  wrote :
 
 On 11/25/10 5:29 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
 chicagofan m...@privacy.net  wrote :

 Jane_Galt wrote:
 chicagofanm...@privacy.net   wrote :
 Webshots stopped working for me several weeks ago, and I wrote them
 about the problem.  In a week it was working again.  Unfortunately, I
 don't know if that was because I switched from SM 2.09 to SM 2.10
 during that period, or because they changed something in response to
 my e-mail. 

 If I'm to judge by their response, it wasn't them.  The reply
 recommended I change to Internet Explorer, after I had said I refuse
 to use IE.  :)  I know, it was a robot reply... so who knows?
 bj
  
 Another thing to mention is that I use the SM browser only, not the
 whole suite. Not sure if that makes a difference in the builds or
 anything. Here's my about:   version 2.0.10

  * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1;
  en-US; 
 rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


 We're using the same SM version, but I am using the whole suite.  I 
 don't think that has anything to do with it though.  I am a premium 
 user, which might have made them look into my complaint, how about you?

 A what? 

 I told them in my messages that SM was a Gecko/Mozilla based browser 
 like Firefox, and there was no reason it should not work now, as it had 
 for 4 or 5 years... before they made these latest updates.  As 
 mentioned
 before, I also told them I refused to use IE.  :)

 Goes without sayin. :)

 Hope you can get some help soon.
 bj

 Is anyone else getting a parsing error at this site?: 
 http://www.memory4less.com/ 

 This is NOT a SeaMonkey problem.  This is a Web site problem.

 This is another case of invalid sniffing.  I get the problem with
 SeaMonkey 2.0.10.  I DO NOT get the problem with SeaMonkey 2.0.10 if I
 spoof Firefox 3.6.10.

 I will file a Mozilla bug report (Tech Evangelism), but only if you
 first notify the owner of the Web site that they have serious bugs.

 
 How can that be done when the site wont work? LOL
 

You have been given several suggestions on how to make it work.  I've
tried one of them, and it was indeed successful.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/25/10 8:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 11/25/10 5:30 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
 David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid  wrote :

 On 11/25/10 12:10 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty a.nony.m...@example.invalid  wrote :

 WLS wrote:

 Jane_Galt wrote:
 Is Seamonkey considered defunct now?

 No.

 I cant even get it to work anymore with my subscription of Webshots.
 Yet FF and Internet Explorer work with it.

 Works fine here. 

 The usual answer is the site is using browser sniffing, and won't
 recognize any but 'common' browsers. The JavaScript on their main page
 (Jane didn't specify any specific page)

 http://www.webshots.com/pro/

 looks for Internet Explorer,
 Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Netscape (!), Opera, but not
 SeaMonkey.  (Yet another example of author bungle.)

 Yeah well it kept me from using my Webshots subscription for almost a
 month until I tried other browsers.

 Adding the oft-mentioned NOT Firefox to the SeaMonkey User Agent
 string might help. WLS, have you done this?


 Is there something I can do from here? Webshots wont even reply to my
 angry emails about denial of service by them.



 Read my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html to understand
 sniffing and spoofing.  Although some of the page is quite technical, I
 tried to write this in a way that non-technical individuals can
 understand the issues.  (There is a very brief definition of spoofing at
 http://www.rossde.com/internet/intr_gloss.html#spoof.)

 Download and install PrefBar from
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/67148/.  Use it to
 spoof Firefox, but only when trying to view Webshots (or other sites
 that have broken sniffing).


 Says it's only for FF?


 
 Hmm.
 
 I previously downloaded the PrefBar .xpi file from
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/67148/ instead of
 installing directly from the Web page.  (I do this because I want to
 archive all software that I install on my PC.)  I then used SeaMonkey's
 Add-On Manager to install PrefBar without any problems.
 
 I just now downloaded the PrefBar .xpi files from both the Firefox and
 SeaMonkey pages within addons.mozilla.org.  Comparing the SH1 hashes of
 both, they are the same.
 

That was the SHA1 hashes, not SH1.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread David E. Ross
So when the government invests in new roads or repairing old bridges to
facilitate the transportation of goods and the commute of workers, that
money is wasted?  How about when the government invests in water plants
so that we don't get sick from typhoid or cholora or invests in
aquaducts so that manufacturers have a steady source of water for
producing products?  What about when the government invests in schools
so that we have a well-educated workforce?

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http://www.rossde.com/.

Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive
bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation.
© 1997 by David E. Ross
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Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links

2010-11-26 Thread Michael Lueck

Ed Mullen wrote:

Daniel F. wrote:

Hey y'all,

I'm the maintainer of the ubuntuzilla repository. Here are my thoughts/
comments on the matter.


Just a thought. I have no idea what you're talking about because you
have deleted/snipped EVERYTHING to what your are replying.


I started the thread originally, via the Gmane NNTP gateway to this list.

I suspect Daniel replied via the same method.

The thread was working through the correct command line syntax to launch SeaMonkey with when clicking mailto: links within Firefox. Daniel and I came up with the correct syntax, and we are trying to 
find which product has the incorrect syntax.


Sincerely,

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Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links

2010-11-26 Thread Michael Lueck

Daniel F. wrote:


It is quite likely, though, that the fault lies not with seamonkey
itself, but with the preferred applications gnome applet, which has
'seamonkey -mail %s' as the default option, when it detects the
presence of /usr/bin/seamonkey on the system. This is currently my
best guess.


Which is what NoOp seemed to suggest as well.

I will try to dupe this with a newer build of Ubuntu to see if it is still a 
problem.

If it is still a problem, I might open a bug report directly with Gnome, 
bypassing Ubuntu all together.

Thank you Daniel for taking the time to provide verbose input.

Sincerely,

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Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...

2010-11-26 Thread Rufus

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 12:16 PM, Rufus wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

If you have the same problem in more than one profile, then the cause is
probably system-wide (unless you installed the same add-ons in your new
profile).

One thing that is system-wide is plugins. Go to Help--About_Plugins.
From the resulting page, tell us what plugins are listed.


This does seem to be recurring every couple days or so - generally a
reboot will get it to stop, but this time I removed the SM app I had
installed, re-downloaded and reinstalled. The last swarm of crashes
happened after a wake from Sleep.

Report ID Date Submitted

bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 9:28 PM
bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 9:27 PM
bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 9:25 PM
bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 9:25 PM
bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 9:23 PM
bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 2:38 PM
bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 2:31 PM
bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 2:29 PM

Plugins installed:

DefaultPlugin.plugin
MRJPlugin.plugin
QuickTime Plugin.plugin
Flash Player.plugin
JavaPlugin2_NPAPI.plugin
Silverlight.plugin
Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
DivXBrowserPlugin.plugin
DirectorShockwave.plugin
huludesktop.webplugin
iPhotoPhotocast.plugin


Are these from about:plugins or from the Mac OS X plaugins folder?



From about:plugins - I copy/pasted the info, but it probably wasn't 
what you wanted...what info are/were you asking for?



In SeaMonkey, go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager, to open the Add-ons Manager.
Select the Plugins panel.
For each plugin you do not use on a daily basis, select it, and click
[Disable].

If SeaMonkey no longer crashes, you can start re-enabling plugins
one-by-one until you find out which one is causing the crashes.



Add-ons installed are Chatzilla 0.9.86, DOM Inspector 2.0.8, JavaScript 
Debugger 0.9.88.1, User Agent Switcher 0.7.2, and Diccionario de 
Español/Españia 1.3.1.  This pretty much is a duplicate Profile from 
another SM 2.0.10 install, other than Bookmarks - I use these same 
Add-ons on two other installs without issue.


So far, I haven't had another series of crashes since I did a secure 
erase of SM and the Alias of it I was using, then redownloaded, 
reinstalled, and recreated the Alias.  But in general it seems to take a 
couple days usage before I see a problem...so I'll keep watch.


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Re: SM 2.0.10 crash

2010-11-26 Thread Rufus

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 9:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I was composing a mail and suddently hop a crash !
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 24/11/2010 10:52

The other previous crashes was with a older SM release than the 2.0.10
bp-3ba00bd6-775f-424f-8a47-c07262100906 06/09/2010 16:38
bp-92e89d65-f574-48a7-8004-408392100621 22/06/2010 01:33
bp-b02f521c-e8dd-4c49-a07a-004bb2100601 01/06/2010 18:07
bp-90b32942-ab32-4c38-92ba-077182100424 24/04/2010 17:57
bp-329923d0-7196-466c-886c-17c792100423 24/04/2010 01:37

I have permitted the transfer of the crash info to mozilla group.

Should i create a bug ? Or is it a normal habitual SM2.0.10 crash ?

My installation is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Your crash signature is:
GetAdvanceForGlyphs

There is a bug report for that at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489691, but it was fixed
5 months before SeaMonkey 2.0 was released.

Does the crash always occur when composing a message?



No - it occurs at random.  The first one occurred during a post attempt 
in Mail/News as I recall, but most of the others occur on SM Crash 
Manager self-restart or Quit and then User restart attempts.


Sometimes SM will restart and crash as the Browser is displayed, 
sometimes it will crash on attempting to navigate away from the Home 
page after Browser display, sometimes it will crash before displaying 
the Browser, sometimes on selection of Mail/News...etc.  It really 
doesn't seem to have a pattern.


And it doesn't always occur - I seem to be able to reboot or wipe SM 
and regain stability for a session/day or so...but not always.  I had at 
least one instance of repeated crashing after a wake from system Sleep. 
 But nothing else on my/this machine is acting up other than SM.


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Re: Here we go again...crash...crash...crash...SM 2.0.10 Mac

2010-11-26 Thread Rufus

Philip Chee wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 13:21:11 -0600, Rufus wrote:


With the summary something like:
crash [...@ns_getbrightness(unsigned char, unsigned char, unsigned char)]

Phil



WILCO - at least it looks like you were able to find something I never
would have. I'll let you know the bug ID once I submit.



Bug submitted -

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=614845


Thanks

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_activity.cgi?id=614845
Some helpful person has added the crash signature to the summary (which
you forgot to do).

Phil



...hmmnnn...I thought I did that already - both in the Summary and 
Description...I quoted and referenced your post!


...but no big, as long as what is needed is there.  Hope somebody 
figures it out - I'm baffled as to why this is only happening on one out 
of three of my 2.0.10 installs, and why it just suddenly started 
happening on only this one machine.


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any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread user

... is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b
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Re: any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread Jordon

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

... is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?


Sure you've got the correct group? Seamonkey isn't
a word processor. Or do you mean in an email?
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Re: any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread Jay Garcia
On 26.11.2010 12:36, u...@domain.invalid wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 ... is there a 'button' there should be
 that allows you [writing a letter] to press
 the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
 appears in your letter?
 
 b

I suspect you mean an email, not a letter so to speak, yes?

In the mail component = File = Page Setup = Margins header/footer ..
make your choices.

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Re: SM 2.0.10 crash

2010-11-26 Thread Ray_Net

Rufus wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 9:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I was composing a mail and suddently hop a crash !
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 24/11/2010 10:52

The other previous crashes was with a older SM release than the 2.0.10
bp-3ba00bd6-775f-424f-8a47-c07262100906 06/09/2010 16:38
bp-92e89d65-f574-48a7-8004-408392100621 22/06/2010 01:33
bp-b02f521c-e8dd-4c49-a07a-004bb2100601 01/06/2010 18:07
bp-90b32942-ab32-4c38-92ba-077182100424 24/04/2010 17:57
bp-329923d0-7196-466c-886c-17c792100423 24/04/2010 01:37

I have permitted the transfer of the crash info to mozilla group.

Should i create a bug ? Or is it a normal habitual SM2.0.10 crash ?

My installation is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Your crash signature is:
GetAdvanceForGlyphs

There is a bug report for that at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489691, but it was fixed
5 months before SeaMonkey 2.0 was released.

Does the crash always occur when composing a message?



No - it occurs at random. The first one occurred during a post attempt
in Mail/News as I recall, but most of the others occur on SM Crash
Manager self-restart or Quit and then User restart attempts.

Sometimes SM will restart and crash as the Browser is displayed,
sometimes it will crash on attempting to navigate away from the Home
page after Browser display, sometimes it will crash before displaying
the Browser, sometimes on selection of Mail/News...etc. It really
doesn't seem to have a pattern.

And it doesn't always occur - I seem to be able to reboot or wipe SM
and regain stability for a session/day or so...but not always. I had at
least one instance of repeated crashing after a wake from system Sleep.
But nothing else on my/this machine is acting up other than SM.


Dis you speak about this crash (signature):
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 ?

Or are you speakingin general about your big amount of crashes ?
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Re: SM 2.0.10 crash

2010-11-26 Thread Ray_Net

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 9:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I was composing a mail and suddently hop a crash !
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 24/11/2010 10:52

The other previous crashes was with a older SM release than the 2.0.10
bp-3ba00bd6-775f-424f-8a47-c07262100906 06/09/2010 16:38
bp-92e89d65-f574-48a7-8004-408392100621 22/06/2010 01:33
bp-b02f521c-e8dd-4c49-a07a-004bb2100601 01/06/2010 18:07
bp-90b32942-ab32-4c38-92ba-077182100424 24/04/2010 17:57
bp-329923d0-7196-466c-886c-17c792100423 24/04/2010 01:37

I have permitted the transfer of the crash info to mozilla group.

Should i create a bug ? Or is it a normal habitual SM2.0.10 crash ?

My installation is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Your crash signature is:
GetAdvanceForGlyphs

There is a bug report for that at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489691, but it was fixed
5 months before SeaMonkey 2.0 was released.

Does the crash always occur when composing a message?


I just had this once ...
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Jane_Galt
Lucas Levrel lucas.lev...@u-pec.fr  wrote :

 Le 26 novembre 2010, Jane_Galt a écrit :
 
 Webshots built a huge base of excellent wallpaper photos ( now in HD too )
 and then got bought out by American Greetings, which IMO screwed up their
 site with too much high techy crapola.
 
 Another great victory of the free market.
 

Things succeed and fail in the free market, but at least there are individual 
rights and freedom, versis the slavery of forced-collectivism.


-- 
- Jane Galt

By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced to 
pay back, Government does NOT create jobs, it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Jane_Galt
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com  wrote :

 Jane_Galt wrote:
 
 No, an investment can only be private. Private parties invest the money
 they've EARNED. Government loots people and destroys wealth. They cant
 invest, they can only consume other peoples' wealth, taken at gunpoint.

 It's like calling a burglar an investor when he takes your TV set and
 buys himself a car with the money he sold it for.
...
 
 [big snip]
 
 There are lots of places to post this political crap, but 
 mozilla.seamonkey.support is not one of them. Try Glenn Beck's website 
 or something.
 
 Let's get back on topic, people!
 

Yeah socialists go ballistic like the wicked witch being soaked with water, 
then it's GET BACK ON TOPIC!

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By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced to 
pay back, Government does NOT create jobs, it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
create jobs, could be using to do so!
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Jane_Galt
David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid  wrote :

 So when the government invests in new roads or repairing old bridges to
 facilitate the transportation of goods and the commute of workers, that
 money is wasted?

Being it was taken at gunpoint by enslaving people to pay for it, it's 
slavery not investment.

The pyramids werent investment either, they were slavery. It doesnt matter 
how utilitous they are.

  How about when the government invests in water plants
 so that we don't get sick from typhoid or cholora or invests in
 aquaducts so that manufacturers have a steady source of water for
 producing products? 

The free market could do it without slavery.

 What about when the government invests in schools
 so that we have a well-educated workforce?

Same thing. Free market demand creates a supply. 

The sun dont shine down on us, out of the ass of government.



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By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced to 
pay back, Government does NOT create jobs, it NEVER HAS. It actually 
consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES 
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread David E. Ross
On 11/26/10 1:46 PM, Jane_Galt wrote:
 David E. Ross nob...@nowhere.invalid  wrote :
 
 So when the government invests in new roads or repairing old bridges to
 facilitate the transportation of goods and the commute of workers, that
 money is wasted?
 
 Being it was taken at gunpoint by enslaving people to pay for it, it's 
 slavery not investment.
 
 The pyramids werent investment either, they were slavery. It doesnt matter 
 how utilitous they are.
 
  How about when the government invests in water plants
 so that we don't get sick from typhoid or cholora or invests in
 aquaducts so that manufacturers have a steady source of water for
 producing products? 
 
 The free market could do it without slavery.
 
 What about when the government invests in schools
 so that we have a well-educated workforce?
 
 Same thing. Free market demand creates a supply. 
 
 The sun dont shine down on us, out of the ass of government.

It's quite simple.  You ingore reason when asking for help with
Mozilla-based products, and you ignore reason when discussing politics.
 I will ignore you completely.

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Re: SM 2.0.10 crash

2010-11-26 Thread Rufus

Ray_Net wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 9:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I was composing a mail and suddently hop a crash !
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 24/11/2010 10:52

The other previous crashes was with a older SM release than the 2.0.10
bp-3ba00bd6-775f-424f-8a47-c07262100906 06/09/2010 16:38
bp-92e89d65-f574-48a7-8004-408392100621 22/06/2010 01:33
bp-b02f521c-e8dd-4c49-a07a-004bb2100601 01/06/2010 18:07
bp-90b32942-ab32-4c38-92ba-077182100424 24/04/2010 17:57
bp-329923d0-7196-466c-886c-17c792100423 24/04/2010 01:37

I have permitted the transfer of the crash info to mozilla group.

Should i create a bug ? Or is it a normal habitual SM2.0.10 crash ?

My installation is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Your crash signature is:
GetAdvanceForGlyphs

There is a bug report for that at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489691, but it was fixed
5 months before SeaMonkey 2.0 was released.

Does the crash always occur when composing a message?


I just had this once ...


I've had multiple clusters of crashes, over the span of about 5-7 days. 
 I've only been posting the most recent info on them, after I've done 
something like re-boot or wipe SM and am able to recover and use SM for 
a new session...until it's crashed again.


This is happening while I'm traveling with my MacBook, so I don't have 
any other of my machines/installs handy to compare...and it also makes 
the crash clusters particularly annoying.


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Re: SM 2.0.10 crash

2010-11-26 Thread Rufus

Ray_Net wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 10-11-25 9:13 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

I was composing a mail and suddently hop a crash !
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 24/11/2010 10:52

The other previous crashes was with a older SM release than the 2.0.10
bp-3ba00bd6-775f-424f-8a47-c07262100906 06/09/2010 16:38
bp-92e89d65-f574-48a7-8004-408392100621 22/06/2010 01:33
bp-b02f521c-e8dd-4c49-a07a-004bb2100601 01/06/2010 18:07
bp-90b32942-ab32-4c38-92ba-077182100424 24/04/2010 17:57
bp-329923d0-7196-466c-886c-17c792100423 24/04/2010 01:37

I have permitted the transfer of the crash info to mozilla group.

Should i create a bug ? Or is it a normal habitual SM2.0.10 crash ?

My installation is:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10


Your crash signature is:
GetAdvanceForGlyphs

There is a bug report for that at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=489691, but it was fixed
5 months before SeaMonkey 2.0 was released.

Does the crash always occur when composing a message?



No - it occurs at random. The first one occurred during a post attempt
in Mail/News as I recall, but most of the others occur on SM Crash
Manager self-restart or Quit and then User restart attempts.

Sometimes SM will restart and crash as the Browser is displayed,
sometimes it will crash on attempting to navigate away from the Home
page after Browser display, sometimes it will crash before displaying
the Browser, sometimes on selection of Mail/News...etc. It really
doesn't seem to have a pattern.

And it doesn't always occur - I seem to be able to reboot or wipe SM
and regain stability for a session/day or so...but not always. I had at
least one instance of repeated crashing after a wake from system Sleep.
But nothing else on my/this machine is acting up other than SM.


Dis you speak about this crash (signature):
bp-8ee1cb47-0e72-45c3-a70e-898c02101124 ?

Or are you speakingin general about your big amount of crashes ?


I'm speaking in general, about the big amount of recurring crashes...no 
two seem to have the same signature, looking at the information I've 
posted previously (none of the info seems duplicated); and they all 
occur(ed) in clusters - one immediately after the other.


All I can tell in each instance is that SM has crashed - Crash Reporter 
comes up.  And comes up...and comes up...


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Re: Testing SeaMonkey 2.0.11 candidates - help wanted!

2010-11-26 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 11/26/2010 10:02 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:

p.s. It is looking like we'll need a build_2 to match what Firefox is
doing. They claim the change won't need additional QA time and is
extremely minor. But I haven't read too much on the issue yet.


The only change expected in there is one to satisfy Hawaii government
users, I think we can safely ignore it for this one (unless you prefer
the exercise on doing release build runs). ;-)


O ok, I thought it was a wider spread thing of Hawaii users in general 
from by brief read of the heads-up. Yea, I think we can live without a 
build2


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Re: any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

 is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b
Does Vista not allow you to highlight the whole document, and drag and 
drop it into your message-compose window?

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Re: any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

u...@domain.invalid wrote:


 is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b



Does Vista not allow you to highlight the whole document, and drag and 
drop it into your message-compose window?


Sorry, meant Win7. (Not a Windows user!). Barry.
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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Jane_Galt wrote:

Paul B. Gallagherpau...@pbgdashtranslations.com   wrote :


Jane_Galt wrote:


No, an investment can only be private. Private parties invest the money
they've EARNED. Government loots people and destroys wealth. They cant
invest, they can only consume other peoples' wealth, taken at gunpoint.

It's like calling a burglar an investor when he takes your TV set and
buys himself a car with the money he sold it for.
...


[big snip]

There are lots of places to post this political crap, but
mozilla.seamonkey.support is not one of them. Try Glenn Beck's website
or something.

Let's get back on topic, people!



Yeah socialists go ballistic like the wicked witch being soaked with water,
then it's GET BACK ON TOPIC!


I'm perfectly capable of demolishing your arguments, such as they are, 
without stooping to sleazy tactics like name-calling. But this isn't the 
place for it. Ask any of the MVPs.


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Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links

2010-11-26 Thread Michael Lueck

NoOp wrote:

Unfortunately I didn't see Daniel F.'s reply as it appears that he
posted via google groups


Yes, he said that was the gateway he came through, not news.mozilla.org which I 
use.


I'm still working on pining this down, but if you look at:
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml
you'll find that themail-readers  sections in that file has this set for:


Learn something new every day. I did not know about that program list.


Either way I still think that the issue comes back to the
desktop environment rather than SeaMonkey


Which I will try to recreate on the latest Gnome, and if the problem still 
exists open a bug directly with Gnome.

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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

On 11/25/2010 1:52 AM, Jane_Galt wrote:

Is Seamonkey considered defunct now?


no.

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Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links

2010-11-26 Thread NoOp
On 11/26/2010 06:32 PM, Michael Lueck wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 Unfortunately I didn't see Daniel F.'s reply as it appears that he
 posted via google groups
 
 Yes, he said that was the gateway he came through, not news.mozilla.org which 
 I use.
 
 I'm still working on pining this down, but if you look at:
 /usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml
 you'll find that themail-readers  sections in that file has this set for:
 
 Learn something new every day. I did not know about that program list.
 
 Either way I still think that the issue comes back to the
 desktop environment rather than SeaMonkey
 
 Which I will try to recreate on the latest Gnome, and if the problem still 
 exists open a bug directly with Gnome.
 
 Thanks,
 

Found it. I just loaded up a test Ubuntu 10.10 with the default
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml
showing:
SeaMonkey:
executableseamonkey/executable
  commandseamonkey -mail %s/command
  icon-nameseamonkey/icon-name
  run-in-terminalfalse/run-in-terminal

I then installed SeaMonkey 2.0.10 from the Ubuntu repositories and set:
 System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|
to SeaMonkey and find the it is using
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml for the
setting (-mail %s).

I then modified:
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml
$ gksu gedit /usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml
and changed
executableseamonkey/executable
  commandseamonkey -mail %s/command
  icon-nameseamonkey/icon-name
  run-in-terminalfalse/run-in-terminal
to
executableseamonkey/executable
  commandseamonkey %s/command
  icon-nameseamonkey/icon-name
  run-in-terminalfalse/run-in-terminal
and rechecked System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader| and
find that it has changed to reflect the change in
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml (to
'seamonkey %s').

So the issue appears to be related to
/usr/share/gnome-control-center/gnome-default-applications.xml. Now, the
question is: where did gnome get those settings from? Mozilla, old Gnome
files, etc?

I'll dig a little further tomorrow if I have time.

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Re: Testing SeaMonkey 2.0.11 candidates - help wanted!

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 18:41:47 -0500, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 On 11/26/2010 10:02 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb:
 p.s. It is looking like we'll need a build_2 to match what Firefox is
 doing. They claim the change won't need additional QA time and is
 extremely minor. But I haven't read too much on the issue yet.

 The only change expected in there is one to satisfy Hawaii government
 users, I think we can safely ignore it for this one (unless you prefer
 the exercise on doing release build runs). ;-)
 
 O ok, I thought it was a wider spread thing of Hawaii users in general 
 from by brief read of the heads-up. Yea, I think we can live without a 
 build2

Detective Steve McGarrett won't be too happy.
Book 'em, Danno

Phil

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Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...

2010-11-26 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 12:02:06 -0600, Rufus wrote:

 Plugins installed:

 DefaultPlugin.plugin
 MRJPlugin.plugin
 QuickTime Plugin.plugin
 Flash Player.plugin
 JavaPlugin2_NPAPI.plugin
 Silverlight.plugin
 Flip4Mac WMV Plugin.plugin
 Google Earth Web Plug-in.plugin
 RealPlayer Plugin.plugin
 DivXBrowserPlugin.plugin
 DirectorShockwave.plugin
 huludesktop.webplugin
 iPhotoPhotocast.plugin

 In SeaMonkey, go to Tools--Add-ons_Manager, to open the Add-ons Manager.
 Select the Plugins panel.
 For each plugin you do not use on a daily basis, select it, and click
 [Disable].

 If SeaMonkey no longer crashes, you can start re-enabling plugins
 one-by-one until you find out which one is causing the crashes.
 
 Add-ons installed are Chatzilla 0.9.86, DOM Inspector 2.0.8, JavaScript 
 Debugger 0.9.88.1, User Agent Switcher 0.7.2, and Diccionario de 
 Español/Españia 1.3.1.  This pretty much is a duplicate Profile from 
 another SM 2.0.10 install, other than Bookmarks - I use these same 
 Add-ons on two other installs without issue.

I said plugins e.g. Flash Player.plugin. I didn't say anything about
extensions.

Phil

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Re: any way ,,,[clarification]

2010-11-26 Thread user

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

... is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b

... clarisycation

... when your in mail writing a letter and you want
to start the letter with a standard greeting [Dear Sir?[]
you press a button and it appearssn you finish the letter ad press
ehe closing button]

... just a convenience.

b

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Re: any way ,,,[clarification]

2010-11-26 Thread WLS

On 11/26/2010 11:11 PM, u...@domain.invalid wrote:

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

... is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b

... clarisycation

... when your in mail writing a letter and you want
to start the letter with a standard greeting [Dear Sir?[]
you press a button and it appearssn you finish the letter ad press
ehe closing button]

... just a convenience.

b



Create a template.

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Re: Is Seamonkey defunct?

2010-11-26 Thread Ed Mullen

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

On 11/25/2010 1:52 AM, Jane_Galt wrote:

Is Seamonkey considered defunct now?


no.



ROFLMAO.  Best answer so far.

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Re: any way ,,,

2010-11-26 Thread Ed Mullen

u...@domain.invalid wrote:

... is there a 'button' there should be
that allows you [writing a letter] to press
the button and the text [heading, footer etc]
appears in your letter?

b


Ok, just read the whole thread (to this point) and, I gotta say, I think 
I'm just going to go to bed instead of getting another drink.  No 
offense meant, it's just, well, geez, I read through this four times and 
I still don't get it.  Button?  Letter?  Text?  Heading?  Footer?


OUTFOX?

On second thought, perhaps another Jim Beam ... nah.  It still won't 
make any sense.


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