Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: > Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:12:18 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: >> Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:27:19 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: >> >>> On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown >>> menu box called "View:" . >> >> You have three menu bars, really? > > Wow. Readin

Re: [Bug 686555] Please use the string "Firefox/6.0.2 compatible" for the User Agent String of SeaMonkey

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Justin Wood (:Callek) 2011-09-15 17:27:41 PDT --- > No it is a "Core Gecko" bug, we use the |general.useragent.compatMode.firefox| > preference for this. > > It also can't be labeled "compatible" because many(!) UA sniffing scripts > treat > that as suddenly meaning MSIE. We only have Firefox

Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

2011-09-15 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov
Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:44:18 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:12:18 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:27:19 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown menu box called "View:" . You have thr

Re: maildir support in a future release, instead of mbox only?

2011-09-15 Thread Rich Gray
Alex Baer wrote: Rich Gray wrote: Alex Baer wrote: Re-creation of index files was unfortunately not done instantly in earlier versions. For large mbox files it takes ages. The whole concept slows down actions, such as copying 500 messages from one folder to another one significantly. It takes

Re: Are "security(sic/sick) updates" _EVER_ needed? ?? ???

2011-09-15 Thread Paul
Lee wrote: On 9/15/11, Paul wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: Provocative enough subject line? Actually I'm *serious* ! I personally suspect that all these "security" features are trying to protect users from there own culpable acts. I take responsibility for my own well being by: 1. *DISABLING*

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
On 9/15/2011 7:13 PM, cmcadams wrote: I didn't even realize that was there, mine's still set to false. The answer from Justin appears to resolve that: it could well still be the driver. Well |force_enable| will always be false unless you explicitly turn it to true. Its only used to override ou

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread cmcadams
Ken Rudolph wrote: WLS wrote: cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread cmcadams
I didn't even realize that was there, mine's still set to false. The answer from Justin appears to resolve that: it could well still be the driver. Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: cmcadams wrote: Sorry about that. Maybe it is all bugs and angst. Check if there's a newer video driv

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Ken Rudolph
WLS wrote: cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registr

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Chris Ilias
On 11-09-15 3:07 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: And does Seamonkey make this decision based on a probe, or based on a blacklist, or based on a whitelist, or on some other criterion ? There's a list with links to bugs at

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
On 9/15/2011 3:07 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 9/15/2011 2:04 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: about:config webgl.force-enabled -> true appears to suffice : I wonder why it is necessary ? Its necessary because the driver/hardware

Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown menu box called "View:" . When one clicks on

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
NoOp wrote: > On 09/15/2011 05:09 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> New computer, brand new installation of Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome, ext4 file >> system. I use Thunderbird, wife uses Seamonkey on same box. The latest >> version in the 11.04 repository is 2.0.13 and it installed as expected. >> I se

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread NoOp
On 09/15/2011 05:09 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: > New computer, brand new installation of Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome, ext4 file > system. I use Thunderbird, wife uses Seamonkey on same box. The > latest > version in the 11.04 repository is 2.0.13 and it installed as expected. I > set up

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: > On 9/15/2011 2:04 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: >> about:config webgl.force-enabled -> true appears to suffice : >> I wonder why it is necessary ? > > Its necessary because the driver/hardware combo you have is faulty in one of > possibly many ways

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: WLS wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: I'll worry about security later, after I get the current repository-provided version working without crashing! What do they have to say about it on the Ubuntu forum? Could it be a bad build in the repository? Can'

Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

2011-09-15 Thread S. Beaulieu
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj a écrit : I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown menu box called "View:" . When one clicks

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> I'll worry about security later, after I get the current >> repository-provided version working without crashing! > > Sometimes, when a program crashes repeatedly and inexplicably, it is not > the program at fault at al

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WLS wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >>I'll worry about security later, after I get the current >> repository-provided version working without crashing! >> > What do they have to say about it on the Ubuntu forum? Could it be a bad > build in the repository? Can't say. I haven't been to

Re: [SM2.3.3, Win7] View dropdown menu UI improvement ?

2011-09-15 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:12:18 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 00:27:19 -0400, /Rostyslaw Lewyckyj/: On the third menu bar on the email screen there is a dropdown menu box called "View:" . You have three menu bars, really? Wow. Reading one of your other p

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)
On 9/15/2011 2:04 PM, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: cmcadams wrote: Sorry about that. Maybe it is all bugs and angst. Check if there's a newer video driver (direct from the chipset vendor, eg nVidia, not the card manufacturer). about:config webgl.force-enabled -> true appears t

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?

2011-09-15 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Ray_Net wrote: Daniel wrote: GerardJan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > about:config webgl.force-enabled -> true appears to suffice : > I wonder why it is necessary ? Unless I also set about:config webgl.force_osmesa to true, in which case it stops working again. W[hat]TH is "osmesa" and W]ho]TH thought it a good idea to a

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: WLS wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: WLS wrote: SM 2.0.13 is no longer secure, try SM 2.3.3 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ You must have missed my original post in this thread. But thanks. Security is not the

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
cmcadams wrote: > Sorry about that. Maybe it is all bugs and angst. Check if there's a newer > video driver (direct from the chipset vendor, eg nVidia, not the card > manufacturer). about:config webgl.force-enabled -> true appears to suffice : I wonder why it is necessary ? Philip Taylor ___

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: > I'll worry about security later, after I get the current > repository-provided version working without crashing! Sometimes, when a program crashes repeatedly and inexplicably, it is not the program at fault at all (except in the sense that it was not coded de

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread cmcadams
Sorry about that. Maybe it is all bugs and angst. Check if there's a newer video driver (direct from the chipset vendor, eg nVidia, not the card manufacturer). Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
cmcadams wrote: Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/publi

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WLS wrote: > So why doesn't [does?] Ubuntu have SM 2.0.14? Is that operating system that bad > they don't keep up with security releases of browsers? Not that SM > 2.0.14 is up to date with security fixes. I can't answer that, except to say that Ubuntu is a fine operating system. -- -bts

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: > WLS wrote: >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >>> WLS wrote: > SM 2.0.13 is no longer secure, try SM 2.3.3 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ >>> >>> You must have missed my original post in this thread. But thanks. >>> Security is not the is

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Odd UI behaviour opening e-mail folders, and newsgroups, as tabs.

2011-09-15 Thread Rostyslaw Lewyckyj
Daniel wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. My email/news display is set up to have a folder pane on the left and a messages pane on the

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
WLS wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> WLS wrote: >>> SM 2.0.13 is no longer secure, try SM 2.3.3 >>> >>> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ >> >> You must have missed my original post in this thread. But thanks. >> Security is not the issue here; total crashing is. >> > > I didn't. > >

Re: WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)
cmcadams wrote: > Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and > angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: > https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html Seamonkey 2.3.3 (most recent stable version) :

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: WLS wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself: Followup: I've removed 2.0.13 and reinstalled it, but kept same profile. No change in the crashing. Google unhelpful. Any ideas? I have completely removed SeaMonkey -- now *

WebGL demos

2011-09-15 Thread cmcadams
Among the advantages of staying current on SM (hey, it can't ALL be bugs and angst) are these particularly nifty, IMHO, WebGL examples: https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos/webkit/Earth.html https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/sdk/demos

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
WLS wrote: > Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: >> Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself: >> >> Followup: >>> I've removed 2.0.13 and reinstalled it, but kept same profile. No >>> change in the crashing. Google unhelpful. Any ideas? >> >> I have completely removed SeaMonkey -- now *including* the

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread WLS
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself: Followup: I've removed 2.0.13 and reinstalled it, but kept same profile. No change in the crashing. Google unhelpful. Any ideas? I have completely removed SeaMonkey -- now *including* the profile -- and reinstalled 2.0

Re: SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Beauregard T. Shagnasty replied to hisself: Followup: > I've removed 2.0.13 and reinstalled it, but kept same profile. No change > in the crashing. Google unhelpful. Any ideas? I have completely removed SeaMonkey -- now *including* the profile -- and reinstalled 2.0.13 with new profile. Same thi

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?

2011-09-15 Thread Ray_Net
Daniel wrote: GerardJan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when I send a messag

Re: Are "security(sic/sick) updates" _EVER_ needed? ?? ???

2011-09-15 Thread Lee
On 9/15/11, Paul wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: >> Provocative enough subject line? >> Actually I'm *serious* ! >> >> I personally suspect that all these "security" features are trying to >> protect users from there own culpable acts. >> >> I take responsibility for my own well being by: >> 1. *D

SM Mail crashes when clicking Compose or Reply

2011-09-15 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
New computer, brand new installation of Ubuntu 11.04 Gnome, ext4 file system . I use Thunderbird, wife uses Seamonkey on same box. The latest version in the 11.04 repository is 2.0.13 and it installed as expected. I set up her POP email account (1 account). It receives mail fine. Browsing is f

deleting old emails

2011-09-15 Thread Neil Winchurst
Under synchronisation and storage in the account settings there is a provision for deleting messages according to certain criteria. This is to save disc space. One is for a maximum number of saved messages and another is for messages more than a set number of days old. However, I suspect that

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?

2011-09-15 Thread Daniel
GerardJan wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when I send a message, SM will firs

OT Merc anticts (was:- Re: Are "security(sic/sick) updates" _EVER_ needed? ?? ???)

2011-09-15 Thread Daniel
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 15/09/2011 00:12, NoOp told the world: got behind the wheel on his Mercedes at twice the speed limit -- Difficult enough to do at the speed limit!! -- Daniel _

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Odd UI behaviour opening e-mail folders, and newsgroups, as tabs.

2011-09-15 Thread Daniel
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. My email/news display is set up to have a folder pane on the left and a messages pane on the right. The mes

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?

2011-09-15 Thread GerardJan
Ray_Net wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when I send a message, SM will first put up an alert

Re: [SM 2.3.3, Win7] Hung alert when Sending messages?

2011-09-15 Thread Ray_Net
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: I'm on a Win7 Ultimate with SP1 system. My SM 2.3.3 is the pushed update to SM 2.3.2 which was downloaded and applied over an SM 2.0.14 system. I have no add-ons. Sometimes, like earlier this evening, when I send a message, SM will first put up an alert that it is sendi