Re: huge lag in typing on Linked In Messages

2017-02-12 Thread jm745_1999
On Thursday, October 13, 2016 at 10:15:36 AM UTC-5, Hawker wrote:
> Hello,
> When composing a message in Linkedin there is a huge lag between my 
> typing and the characters showing up. It makes it very painful to 
> compose messages. Any idea what causes this and what I can do about it?
> It is  the only place I have seen this.

I am definitely having this issue. It's irritating when you are trying to carry 
on important conversations. I'm using Firefox, have anyone else had this issue 
on another browser?
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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread Ed Mullen
On 2/12/2017 at 2:34 PM, Lee's prodigious digits fired off with great 
aplomb:

On 2/12/17, Jonathan N. Little  wrote:

flyguy wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/10/2017 2:47 PM:





If you don't have Lightning installed, perhaps it's some other extension
adding something to the user-agent string and tripping up their dodgy
sniffing.


Bingo! I am using Lightning, and your fix worked for the NYT. I never
would have found that solution.



Over a decade ago UA browser sniffing was exposed as bad web design
because it was unreliable and very fragile. Why are we back to
relitigating this?  It has been proven a to be a "Bad Idea" (TM)


Because doing a half-assed job that gets it right 80% of the time is
sooo much easier than figuring out the right way to do it.

Regards,
Lee



And because the ONLY reason to check what browser a viewer is using is 
because the author of the Web page doesn't know how to write compliant HTML.


Browser sniffing = incompetence.

The only acceptable check is, perhaps, for transactional reasons, to see 
if a viewer has javascript disabled. And then to (gently) inform the 
user of the consequences.



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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread flyguy

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 12:13 PM:

flyguy wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM:

flyguy wrote:

This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile:

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442


Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times.
The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and
IE 11.

Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last
couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote
marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza
places in the area, under which is a list of those places.
Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab,
which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get
what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full
map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked
on.

I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link
the menu that's under the Google search box at the top.


The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I
can get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's
user-agent to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not
sufficient; it seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey
from the user-agent string. To do that:
1. Enter about:config in the address bar
2. Accept the warning
3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent"
4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to
"true" (double-click to toggle if it's not)
5. Right-click > New > String
6. For the name, enter
"general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or whichever local
version of google you get directed to)
7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0"

Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which
more accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version
corresponding to your SeaMonkey version, as follows:
1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit >
Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking or
"general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in about:config)
2. Help > About SeaMonkey
3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the
"SeaMonkey/" at the end.
4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred
setting (it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version
into the user-agent string for step 3).


I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland
wa" (no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When
I click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google
search box at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has:
 Rating Pizza Hours Clear Filters X

The status bar reports "Done".

Better than a blank page, but not quite there  :^(


After a bit more experimenting, it seems that it may be necessary to
check a few other settings as well:
- Enable JavaScript for Google (in case you've disabled it, or using a
script blocker like NoScript)
- Set the user-agent for www.google.co.uk (or your local variant) to a
Firefox user-agent
- Turn OFF "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

Yes - set the user-agent sting for Google to something indicating
Firefox with no mention of SeaMonkey, and also turn OFF "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" so that the default user-agent indicates
SeaMonkey with no mention of Firefox! That changing "Advertise Firefox
compatibility" makes a difference suggests that there may be another
domain involved which isn't affected by the specific user-agent
override, but I can't work out what it is.

I've been able to produce at least 3 different results depending on
combinations of these settings. After changing the settings, go to
www.google.com (it redirects to a local version, www.google.co.uk for
me), search for "pizza", click one of the places listed under the small
map, and depending on the combination of settings...

1. With JavaScript disabled: Another search results page, with the
search term changed to the name of the place I clicked.

2. With JavaScript enabled, SeaMonkey default user-agent, with or
without "Advertise Firefox compatibility": A menu bar but no content
underneath. This sounds like what you're seeing now. I had assumed this
is what you originally described as "another tab, which remains blank",
but it now sounds like you really were seeing a completely blank page.

3. With JavaScript enabled, general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk
set to a Firefox-only string (either the one I suggested or yours minus
" SeaMonkey/2.46"), and "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled: A
page with the other places listed down the left, a large map on the
right, and details about the one I selected in a panel covering the left
side of 

Re: How to unclock Hangouts plugin with SM 2.40

2017-02-12 Thread Francois LE COAT

Hi,

Francois LE COAT writes:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.40 under Mac OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) and I've
installed the Hangouts plugin "GoogleVoiceAndVideoSetup.dmg" v.5.38.6.
The problem is the plugin is currently locked by SeaMonkey, and I don't
know how to unlock it... I know Hangouts works, because I used it a
few times, before SeaMonkey locked it. But now I can't use it anymore.

Can somebody help me?


I confirm I'm using SeaMonkey 2.40 on my 27" iMac mid-2010, and that
I don't know how to unlock the Google Talk plugin. I searched in
"about:config" section without success. How to unlock this plugin?

Thanks.

Best regards,

--
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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

flyguy wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM:

flyguy wrote:

This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile:

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442

Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times.
The link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and
IE 11.

Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last
couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote
marks), I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza
places in the area, under which is a list of those places.
Clicking on a pizza place in the list takes me to another tab,
which remains blank with status line showing "done". I used get
what I still get in IE and Chrome: the list of places, and a full
map overlaid with box showing the details of the place I clicked
on.

I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link
the menu that's under the Google search box at the top.


The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I
can get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's
user-agent to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not
sufficient; it seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey
from the user-agent string. To do that:
1. Enter about:config in the address bar
2. Accept the warning
3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent"
4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to
"true" (double-click to toggle if it's not)
5. Right-click > New > String
6. For the name, enter
"general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or whichever local
version of google you get directed to)
7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0"

Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which
more accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version
corresponding to your SeaMonkey version, as follows:
1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit >
Preferences > Advanced > Http Networking or
"general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in about:config)
2. Help > About SeaMonkey
3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the
"SeaMonkey/" at the end.
4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred
setting (it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version
into the user-agent string for step 3).


I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland
wa" (no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When
I click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google
search box at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has:
 Rating Pizza Hours Clear Filters X

The status bar reports "Done".

Better than a blank page, but not quite there  :^(


After a bit more experimenting, it seems that it may be necessary to 
check a few other settings as well:
- Enable JavaScript for Google (in case you've disabled it, or using a 
script blocker like NoScript)
- Set the user-agent for www.google.co.uk (or your local variant) to a 
Firefox user-agent

- Turn OFF "Advertise Firefox compatibility"

Yes - set the user-agent sting for Google to something indicating 
Firefox with no mention of SeaMonkey, and also turn OFF "Advertise 
Firefox compatibility" so that the default user-agent indicates 
SeaMonkey with no mention of Firefox! That changing "Advertise Firefox 
compatibility" makes a difference suggests that there may be another 
domain involved which isn't affected by the specific user-agent 
override, but I can't work out what it is.


I've been able to produce at least 3 different results depending on 
combinations of these settings. After changing the settings, go to 
www.google.com (it redirects to a local version, www.google.co.uk for 
me), search for "pizza", click one of the places listed under the small 
map, and depending on the combination of settings...


1. With JavaScript disabled: Another search results page, with the 
search term changed to the name of the place I clicked.


2. With JavaScript enabled, SeaMonkey default user-agent, with or 
without "Advertise Firefox compatibility": A menu bar but no content 
underneath. This sounds like what you're seeing now. I had assumed this 
is what you originally described as "another tab, which remains blank", 
but it now sounds like you really were seeing a completely blank page.


3. With JavaScript enabled, general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk 
set to a Firefox-only string (either the one I suggested or yours minus 
" SeaMonkey/2.46"), and "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled: A 
page with the other places listed down the left, a large map on the 
right, and details about the one I selected in a panel covering the left 
side of the map. I think this is what you're 

Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread Lee
On 2/12/17, Jonathan N. Little  wrote:
> flyguy wrote:
>> mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/10/2017 2:47 PM:
>
> 
>
>>> If you don't have Lightning installed, perhaps it's some other extension
>>> adding something to the user-agent string and tripping up their dodgy
>>> sniffing.
>>
>> Bingo! I am using Lightning, and your fix worked for the NYT. I never
>> would have found that solution.
>>
>
> Over a decade ago UA browser sniffing was exposed as bad web design
> because it was unreliable and very fragile. Why are we back to
> relitigating this?  It has been proven a to be a "Bad Idea" (TM)

Because doing a half-assed job that gets it right 80% of the time is
sooo much easier than figuring out the right way to do it.

Regards,
Lee
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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread flyguy

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/12/2017 5:53 AM:

flyguy wrote:

This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile:

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442



Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The
link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11.

Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last
couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote marks),
I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza places in the
area, under which is a list of those places. Clicking on a pizza
place in the list takes me to another tab, which remains blank with
status line showing "done". I used get what I still get in IE and
Chrome: the list of places, and a full map overlaid with box showing
the details of the place I clicked on.

I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link the
menu that's under the Google search box at the top.


The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I can
get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's user-agent
to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not sufficient; it
seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey from the user-agent
string. To do that:
1. Enter about:config in the address bar
2. Accept the warning
3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent"
4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to "true"
(double-click to toggle if it's not)
5. Right-click > New > String
6. For the name, enter "general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or
whichever local version of google you get directed to)
7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0"

Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which more
accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version corresponding to
your SeaMonkey version, as follows:
1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit > Preferences >
Advanced > Http Networking or "general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in
about:config)
2. Help > About SeaMonkey
3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the
"SeaMonkey/" at the end.
4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred setting
(it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version into the
user-agent string for step 3).


I used this string from Help, after removing the Seamonkey/2.46:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


The response is different than it was. When I use "pizza in richland wa" 
(no quotes): I get the usual pizza list and a small map, but When I 
click on a place or the map, the page reloads with the Google search box 
at the top, and only a menu bar under it. The bar has:  
RatingPizzaHours   Clear Filters X


The status bar reports "Done".

Better than a blank page, but not quite there  :^(
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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread Ed Mullen
On 2/12/2017 at 10:26 AM, Jonathan N. Little's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:

flyguy wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/10/2017 2:47 PM:





If you don't have Lightning installed, perhaps it's some other extension
adding something to the user-agent string and tripping up their dodgy
sniffing.


Bingo! I am using Lightning, and your fix worked for the NYT. I never
would have found that solution.



Over a decade ago UA browser sniffing was exposed as bad web design
because it was unreliable and very fragile. Why are we back to
relitigating this?  It has been proven a to be a "Bad Idea" (TM)




+1 and AMEN!

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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread Jonathan N. Little

flyguy wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 2/10/2017 2:47 PM:





If you don't have Lightning installed, perhaps it's some other extension
adding something to the user-agent string and tripping up their dodgy
sniffing.


Bingo! I am using Lightning, and your fix worked for the NYT. I never
would have found that solution.



Over a decade ago UA browser sniffing was exposed as bad web design 
because it was unreliable and very fragile. Why are we back to 
relitigating this?  It has been proven a to be a "Bad Idea" (TM)



--
Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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Re: NYT article not loading, similar Google problem

2017-02-12 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne

flyguy wrote:

This article does not load into Seamonkey, using my normal profile:

https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1942/02/15/85516308.html?pageNumber=166_u=64767442


Other than that link, I have no problems with the New York Times. The
link does load into a clean profile, and also in Chrome and IE 11.

Perhaps this related to a Google problem that began in the last
couple of months. For example, if I type in "pizza" (no quote marks),
I get the usual ad links, a small map showing pizza places in the
area, under which is a list of those places. Clicking on a pizza
place in the list takes me to another tab, which remains blank with
status line showing "done". I used get what I still get in IE and
Chrome: the list of places, and a full map overlaid with box showing
the details of the place I clicked on.

I can get the usual full map, etc, if I click on the "Maps" link the
menu that's under the Google search box at the top.


The issue with Google also seems to be dodgy user-agent sniffing. I can 
get it to work by configuring SeaMonkey to present Firefox's user-agent 
to Google. The "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is not sufficient; it 
seems we need to remove all mention of SeaMonkey from the user-agent 
string. To do that:

1. Enter about:config in the address bar
2. Accept the warning
3. In the "Search" bar at the top, enter "useragent"
4. Ensure "general.useragent.site_specific_overrides" is set to "true" 
(double-click to toggle if it's not)

5. Right-click > New > String
6. For the name, enter "general.useragent.override.www.google.co.uk" (or 
whichever local version of google you get directed to)
7. For the value, enter "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0"


Optional - If you want, you can work out a user-agent string which more 
accurately reflects your OS and the Firefox version corresponding to 
your SeaMonkey version, as follows:
1. Enable "Advertise Firefox compatibility" (under Edit > Preferences > 
Advanced > Http Networking or "general.useragent.compatMode.firefox" in 
about:config)

2. Help > About SeaMonkey
3. Copy the string after "User agent", but without the 
"SeaMonkey/" at the end.
4. Set "Advertise Firefox compatibility" back to your preferred setting 
(it just needed to be enabled to get the Firefox version into the 
user-agent string for step 3).


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