Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

2017-11-11 Thread David E. Ross 
On 11/11/2017 9:38 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
>> the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
>> which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
>> integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
>> logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
>> to store my passwords.
> 
> Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
> posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
> upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
> nuisance logins that I entrust to it.
> 
>> As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
>> merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
>> change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
>> accounts and certain other critical Web sites.
> 
> As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
> institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
> file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
> to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.
> 
> So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
> may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
> "rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
> a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
> now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
> (the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
> Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
> not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
> And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
> cracking it won't help without the other part.
> 
> There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
> passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.
> 

I have never seen SeaMonkey forget a saved password.  I have indeed seen
this problem with Thunderbird.  (I do not use SeaMonkey's mail-news
capability.)  However, I think the problem in Thunderbird was fixed
several versions ago.

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*  President Trump issued executive orders
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*  The Republicans in Congress propose to
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Re: reverting to 2.48 release...

2017-11-11 Thread WaltS48 

On 11/11/17 4:44 PM, sean wrote:

Spent the morning trying:
  a) the latest SM Nightly seamonkey-2.55a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
... which crashed whenever attempting to download or read mail
  b) the latest release SeaMonkey 2.49.1 announced on Facebook
... which refused to open at all...

have reverted to what was available to my linux machine thru the 
Ubuntuzilla.ppa


sean --




Was b) the 64-bit contributed build or the 32-bit build?

The 64-bit build can be found here near the bottom of the page.



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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.1 is out!

2017-11-11 Thread sean 

Edmund Wong wrote:

Ant wrote:

Well almost!

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/2-49-1-is-out/
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/404-error/

Maybe more in https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ soon.



I am waiting for some response regarding the external
infrastructure and see if it's something that was
bugging it.

Sorry for the delay.

Edmund



thank you for all of your hard work and persistence...

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.1 is out!

2017-11-11 Thread sean 

Cruz, Jaime wrote:

Ant wrote:

Well almost!

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/2-49-1-is-out/
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2017/11/04/404-error/

Maybe more in https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ soon.


Just waiting for it to reach the Ubuntuzilla PPA repository now. :)



As Am I... tried installing this morning, but nothing would get it to 
open... reverted to 2.48 for now...


sean

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reverting to 2.48 release...

2017-11-11 Thread sean 

Spent the morning trying:
 a) the latest SM Nightly seamonkey-2.55a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2
... which crashed whenever attempting to download or read mail
 b) the latest release SeaMonkey 2.49.1 announced on Facebook
... which refused to open at all...

have reverted to what was available to my linux machine thru the 
Ubuntuzilla.ppa


sean --


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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

2017-11-11 Thread Gabriel 

WaltS48 wrote on 28/10/17 20:05:

On 10/28/17 1:21 PM, DoctorBill wrote:

Why can't the Site Manager erase them ?
Filter them out?

DoctorBill



What site manager?



[cut]

Who is in charge of the mozilla news server?
They should kill the feed from other servers for that spam (well, it's not spam, 
but defamation).


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Re: What's with all those Spanish or Italian Posts - pedofile ?

2017-11-11 Thread Gabriel 

NFN Smith wrote on 30/10/17 15:55:

WaltS48 wrote:



Match any of the following > Subject > Contains. Mark As Read then Delete.

Some of the words I use are the one in the topics subject, ocho, truffatore, 
mafioso, berlusconi, CRIMINALE,


That's what I'm doing.

My list also includes 'mafi' (for mafia, mafioso, mafiosi), barrai, and rossi.

I also use this filter set in several other Mozilla newsgroups, and it's been a 
long time since I've seen any of the Italian stuff.


It's definitely bot-generated, and unfortunately (as somebody else in this 
thread mentioned) it's not worth trying to filter on originating server. Too 
many involved.




It's not a bot AFAIK, it's from a mentally disturbed guy (maybe two, but there's 
one principal source).


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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

2017-11-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

David E. Ross wrote:


I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey. Some of
the third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud,
which I feel is quite risky. Others, I am just not sure of their
integrity and security. Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle
logins with both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey
to store my passwords.


Doesn't really address the OP's question. He's concerned by several 
posts we've seen here about SM forgetting passwords after recent 
upgrades. I, too, would be greatly inconvenienced if SM forgot all those 
nuisance logins that I entrust to it.



As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password. I also periodically
change the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial
accounts and certain other critical Web sites.


As a policy, I don't save logins and passwords for financial 
institutions in SM or anywhere else my computer. However, in a separate 
file with a nonobvious name and location, I do save fragments or clues 
to those logins and passwords along with a slew of other unrelated data.


So for a simple example (this isn't a real case), for one of my banks I 
may save the fragment "Yankees," which reminds me to add the fragment 
"rule!!" when I enter it in the website. For another example (again, not 
a real case), I may save "hIOdnV7QT9A_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (I grabbed this just 
now from your message id) and remember that the login is "hIOdnV7QT9A" 
(the first part) and the password is "_aJvHnZ2dnUU7" (the second part). 
Nothing in the file mentions the institutions or their websites, so it's 
not obvious to anyone else which parts of the mass of data go with what. 
And since what is there is incomplete (the rest being saved in wetware), 
cracking it won't help without the other part.


There are many ways of saving useful reminders (not complete logins or 
passwords) without assuming unreasonable risks.


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Re: I can't access a web CAM and don't understand why.

2017-11-11 Thread Ed Mullen 

On 11/10/2017 at 3:28 PM, Frog created this epitome of digital genius:
I have accessed a web cam located on the Ocean City, MD boardwalk for 
years and for unknown reasons it now does not open.


The web address for this web cam is:

http://www.oceangallery.com/

I do see a black rectangle where I believe the cam display should 
located.  This black rectangle has the following message displaced in it:


can't assign to properties of (new Boolean(true)):
not an object

This message does not communicate with me...Help!

Windows 10


Frog

It works in IE11.

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Re: Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

2017-11-11 Thread David E. Ross 
On 11/11/2017 5:05 AM, bo1953 wrote:
> Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
> manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM.
> 
> I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
> or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?
> 
> TIA - bo1953
> 
> 

I use the Password Manager that is inherent in SeaMonkey.  Some of the
third-party applications store the user's passwords in the cloud, which
I feel is quite risky.  Others, I am just not sure of their integrity
and security.  Since I have to trust SeaMonkey to handle logins with
both security and integrity, I must then trust SeaMonkey to store my
passwords.

As much as I trust SeaMonkey, I still use a lengthy pass-phrase (not
merely a password) as my master password.  I also periodically change
the individual passwords for the Web sites of my financial accounts and
certain other critical Web sites.

-- 
David E. Ross


Am I the only one who noticed the following?
*  President Trump issued executive orders
   that increase health-care costs.
*  The Republicans in Congress propose to
   eliminate itemized deductions for
   health-care costs.
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Password Manager Quick Question - SM 2.49.1 W10 Pro

2017-11-11 Thread bo1953 
Hello all, I have the above on my desktop and lt, the embedded password 
manager loses PW's at most upgrades of SM.


I wish to find out what others use for PWM's that are compatible with SM 
or is it I need to look for one which will work with W10 Pro instead?


TIA - bo1953


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