Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[cmcadams]

Roger Fink wrote:

On 4/27/2018 5:40 PM, cmcadams wrote:

The site https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ suddenly has trouble loading
in SM2.49.2.

Mainly it refuses to load anything but the header. Sometimes it loads
and then disappears. Sometimes, as I'm trying to figure out how to make
it load, it simply goes ahead and loads without my touching anything.

Disabling uBlock Origin doesn't help. Safe Mode doesn't help. Changing
cookie permissions doesn't help.

Changing UA from

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
SeaMonkey/2.49.2

to

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/59.0

doesn't help.

It loads in IE11.

Can anyone think of something I'm missing?


Try clearing all your RealPolitics cookies. Sites get redesigned and saved cookies 
from the earlier version clog up the works.


My RealPolitics cookie permissions are for session cookies only, but the real problem 
turned out to be my bookmarked URL. See previous posts.

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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/28/2018 6:07 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 4/28/2018 5:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 4/28/2018 1:55 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey
>>> v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin
>>> extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even
>>> IE11). No problems in IE11. :(
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7
>> SeaMonkey 2.49.2
>> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
>>
>> I can view the Web pages.
>>
>> However, I must agree with Desiree.  I selected Dropoff and input the
>> ZIP code of the location where I always take plastic and glass for
>> redemption.  I got "Search criteria returned 0 results."  I then
>> selected Curb Side and input my own ZIP code.  I got the same result
>> although we have had curbside recycling for years.
> 
> Do you get correct results in IE11 or another non-Gecko web browser?
> 

While IE11 does show four locations, none are the one I use.  The one I
use gives me money for the glass and plastic bottles I turn in.

The four shown by the Web page only accept items without doling out
money.  One accepts used motor oil, and two accept white paper.  I do
not know what the fourth one accepts; it is a hardware store.

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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[Roger Fink]

On 4/27/2018 5:40 PM, cmcadams wrote:

The site https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ suddenly has trouble loading
in SM2.49.2.

Mainly it refuses to load anything but the header. Sometimes it loads
and then disappears. Sometimes, as I'm trying to figure out how to make
it load, it simply goes ahead and loads without my touching anything.

Disabling uBlock Origin doesn't help. Safe Mode doesn't help. Changing
cookie permissions doesn't help.

Changing UA from

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
SeaMonkey/2.49.2

to

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/59.0

doesn't help.

It loads in IE11.

Can anyone think of something I'm missing?


Try clearing all your RealPolitics cookies. Sites get redesigned and 
saved cookies from the earlier version clog up the works.

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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[cmcadams]

Or they decided to "put their foot down". Was working for me, then a few hours later 
it wasn't. A scheduled change, I'm suggesting.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
The website needs to do this or http will stay. If the http site no longer works I 
would consider it a server misconfiguration.


FRG

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


I have found that SeaMonkey will translate http into https
automatically if the protocol changes for one of my bookmarks.  Why
would that not work for everybody?

Are you sure it's the program and not the website automatically redirecting you?




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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

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On 4/28/2018 4:46 PM, Desiree wrote:

On 4/28/2018 10:55 AM, Ant wrote:

https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey
v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin
extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even
IE11). No problems in IE11. :(

Thank you in advance. :)

I have no problems with that recycle website using Fx 52.7 ESR on 
Windows 10 Pro.  uBlock Origin only blocked one request (sharethis.com), 
  I also have Privacy Badger and it didn't block anything.


Very ignorant site as it says no recycling in Hawaii!  Gee, I wonder 
what the various recyle bins in this condo's parking garage are for? 
Plus, I guess I have imagined carrying my glass Guinness beer bottles to 
a recyling redemption site to get my 6 cents per bottle deposit back.


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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[cmcadams]

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

The site  suddenly has trouble loading in SM 
2.49.2.
Works fine here in 2.49.2 with Adblock Plus 2.9.1, no special effort. I tried 
disabling ABP everywhere, clearing cache and cookies and reloading, still no problem.


You might try clearing cache and cookies; that often works with cranky sites when 
something gets corrupted or stale.


If other sites are also affected, it might be a cranky Internet connection.



Thanks for answering. As happens I discovered the solution right after posting. The 
ancient bookmark I had for realclearpolitics.com featured http, while the https 
(that I copied from IE11, which evidently converted the URL to https automatically) 
worked instantly. Rectified!


If it weren't for stupid mistakes I'd hardly have any at all. :P


I have found that SeaMonkey will translate http into https automatically if the 
protocol changes for one of my bookmarks.  Why would that not work for everybody?




Not a clue. I know that getting there didn't work with my bookmark, but did with the 
same address with https prefix.


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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/28/2018 5:31 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/28/2018 1:55 PM, Ant wrote:

https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey
v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin
extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even
IE11). No problems in IE11. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.2
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled

I can view the Web pages.

However, I must agree with Desiree.  I selected Dropoff and input the
ZIP code of the location where I always take plastic and glass for
redemption.  I got "Search criteria returned 0 results."  I then
selected Curb Side and input my own ZIP code.  I got the same result
although we have had curbside recycling for years.


Do you get correct results in IE11 or another non-Gecko web browser?
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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

[David E. Ross]

On 4/28/2018 1:55 PM, Ant wrote:
> https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey 
> v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin 
> extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even 
> IE11). No problems in IE11. :(
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

Windows 7
SeaMonkey 2.49.2
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled

I can view the Web pages.

However, I must agree with Desiree.  I selected Dropoff and input the
ZIP code of the location where I always take plastic and glass for
redemption.  I got "Search criteria returned 0 results."  I then
selected Curb Side and input my own ZIP code.  I got the same result
although we have had curbside recycling for years.

-- 
David E. Ross


First you say you do, and then you don't.
And then you say you will, but then won't.
You're undecided now, so what're you goin' to do?
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That should be Donald Trump's theme song.  He obviously
does not understand "commitment", whether it is about
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Re: Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

[Desiree]

On 4/28/2018 10:55 AM, Ant wrote:

https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey
v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin
extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even
IE11). No problems in IE11. :(

Thank you in advance. :)

I have no problems with that recycle website using Fx 52.7 ESR on 
Windows 10 Pro.  uBlock Origin only blocked one request (sharethis.com), 
 I also have Privacy Badger and it didn't block anything.


Very ignorant site as it says no recycling in Hawaii!  Gee, I wonder 
what the various recyle bins in this condo's parking garage are for? 
Plus, I guess I have imagined carrying my glass Guinness beer bottles to 
a recyling redemption site to get my 6 cents per bottle deposit back.

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

> Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from Firefox
> (Webext v normal extensions, etc.)

Web ext support is planned for 2.57. One of the things which will held it up. 
With the ESR60 code base many current extensions just won't work. That 
includes all popular Ad- and Scriptblockers. So would be pointless to release 
it in this state.


> as I understand it, if Mozilla breaks the
> mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down that hole??
> Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying the
> new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the (working) revised
> SM code??

Not enough devs left to do this. We barely keep it running. Only an option if 
you want no security fixes or new web standards support.


For the next ESR cycle based on 67 it is probably game over and we need to 
think about what to do. Fx 61 already breaks everything including full themes 
and this won't get better.


FRG

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 28/04/18 05:54:
Yes Mozilla broke the mailpane completely with code removals. The code will 
probably be aligned as much as possible with Thunderbird. Otherwise we 
wouldn't be able to release it at all with the current lack of develepers. 
Styling will of course be SeaMonkey:) The bad news is that this is still 
months away.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from Firefox 
(Webext v normal extensions, etc.) as I understand it, if Mozilla breaks the 
mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down that hole??


Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying the 
new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the (working) revised 
SM code??


Save having to fix what FF broke!!


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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

The website needs to do this or http will stay. If the http site no longer 
works I would consider it a server misconfiguration.


FRG

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

EE wrote:


I have found that SeaMonkey will translate http into https
automatically if the protocol changes for one of my bookmarks.  Why
would that not work for everybody?

Are you sure it's the program and not the website automatically redirecting you?


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Incompatible with old Gecko web browsers like SeaMonkey and Firefox?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

https://recyclenation.com/find/ seems to be incompatible with SeaMonkey 
v2.49.2 and Firefox v52 web browsers. I tried disable my uBlock Origin 
extension, enabled send referrer, and changing my user agents (even 
IE11). No problems in IE11. :(


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Ant via support-seamonkey]

On 4/27/2018 4:17 AM, Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ant a écrit le 24/04/2018 à 03:28 :

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)



I've just a positive reply to this bug
, the version 2.57
might resolve this old bug!


Awesome. The hard part is waiting for it since it has a long way to go. ;)
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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[Paul B. Gallagher]

EE wrote:


I have found that SeaMonkey will translate http into https
automatically if the protocol changes for one of my bookmarks.  Why
would that not work for everybody?
Are you sure it's the program and not the website automatically 
redirecting you?


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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[EE]

cmcadams wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

The site  suddenly has trouble 
loading in SM 2.49.2.
Works fine here in 2.49.2 with Adblock Plus 2.9.1, no special effort. 
I tried disabling ABP everywhere, clearing cache and cookies and 
reloading, still no problem.


You might try clearing cache and cookies; that often works with cranky 
sites when something gets corrupted or stale.


If other sites are also affected, it might be a cranky Internet 
connection.




Thanks for answering. As happens I discovered the solution right after 
posting. The ancient bookmark I had for realclearpolitics.com featured 
http, while the https (that I copied from IE11, which evidently 
converted the URL to https automatically) worked instantly. Rectified!


If it weren't for stupid mistakes I'd hardly have any at all. :P


I have found that SeaMonkey will translate http into https automatically 
if the protocol changes for one of my bookmarks.  Why would that not 
work for everybody?


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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Richmond]

Ant wrote:
> On 4/24/2018 6:35 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
>>> mark all. :(
>>>
>>> Thank you in advance. :)
>>
>> Yes there is, but it's not the way you would expect. What I did was
>> create a search folder which searches for unread messages in all
>> folders. (Local, Status isn't read). Then you can select all the
>> messages in this search folder (using ctrl-a) and mark them as read.
> 
> Wow. SeaMonkey needs an easier way. Thanks.

Once you have created the search folder you can leave it there
indefinitely, and so marking all groups as read becomes quite easy.
However, I now find an additional bug: SM keeps asking me if I wish to
subscribe to the search folder, and then tells me it doesn't exist. :/

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Re: google maps

[David E. Ross]

On 4/28/2018 6:05 AM, Smiles wrote:
> no map shown it says not compatible in light mode
> 
> Smiles wrote:
>> google maps no longer likes SeaMonkey what changes do I do change to 
>> view a map
>>
>> thanks

Did you check (as I suggested earlier) that you have enabled "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" for SeaMonkey's browser?  I am not sure, but it
might be enabled for E-mail but not for browsing.

Try going to .
Scroll down a little to just above the section "URI, URL".  You will see
your user agent string when browsing with SeaMonkey (or any other
browser).

-- 
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And then you say you will, but then won't.
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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Roger Fink]

On 4/23/2018 9:28 PM, Ant wrote:

Instead of going one by one? I cannot even highlight all newsgroups to
mark all. :(

Thank you in advance. :)


I'm using fossamail to post here, which is a near clone of Thunderbird. 
If I right click any unread message I can select Mark/All Read, "All" 
meaning every downloaded message in the newsgroup. Not sure if that 
applies to SeaMonkey or not.

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Re: google maps

[Smiles]

no map shown it says not compatible in light mode

Smiles wrote:
google maps no longer likes SeaMonkey what changes do I do change to 
view a map


thanks

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Re: Is there a way to mark ALL newsgroups, at the same time, in an usenet server?

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 28/04/18 05:54:
Yes Mozilla broke the mailpane completely with code removals. The code 
will probably be aligned as much as possible with Thunderbird. Otherwise 
we wouldn't be able to release it at all with the current lack of 
develepers. Styling will of course be SeaMonkey:) The bad news is that 
this is still months away.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, with SeaMonkey now, more or less, being divorced from 
Firefox (Webext v normal extensions, etc.) as I understand it, if 
Mozilla breaks the mailpane, why should the SM Devs follow Firefox down 
that hole??


Isn't is possible to fix faults in the old SM code rather then modifying 
the new FF code and then incorporate those improvements into the 
(working) revised SM code??


Save having to fix what FF broke!!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Realclearpolitics.com has trouble loading

[GerardJan]

David E. Ross wrote on 28/04/2018 0:46:

On 4/27/2018 2:40 PM, cmcadams wrote:

The site https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ suddenly has trouble loading in 
SM2.49.2.

Mainly it refuses to load anything but the header. Sometimes it loads and then
disappears. Sometimes, as I'm trying to figure out how to make it load, it 
simply
goes ahead and loads without my touching anything.

Disabling uBlock Origin doesn't help. Safe Mode doesn't help. Changing cookie
permissions doesn't help.

Changing UA from

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 
SeaMonkey/2.49.2

to

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0

doesn't help.

It loads in IE11.

Can anyone think of something I'm missing?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.2
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Cookies for the originating Web site only
Popups blocked
Images from other domains blocked
"When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always
use the colors and background specified by the web page."
"Allow documents to use other fonts" enabled
(plus an extension to inhibit or complicate tracking)

No problem viewing the page or navigating to other pages within that site.



¡ I don´t know what you are doing !
it runs fine for me with version :
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Build identifier: 20171016030418

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