My SeaMonkey loves to crash in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC with @ xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | mozglue.dll | xul.dll | GetUpdateRect.

2020-06-05 Thread Ant

Hello.

My SeaMonkey loves to crash from xul.dll in my decade old, 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1 PC once in a while. Here are a few sent crash reports:


https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/20cc3419-007d-4e9c-b208-333ad0200530

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/16e81e6a-e0b7-45ed-9e93-fbb740200606

https://crash-stats.mozilla.org/report/index/90271966-1928-4524-bf7e-ac5230200514

It happens once in a while though. It doesn't matter how long 
SeaMonkey's uptime was. Is anyone else getting thes XUL.dll crashes too 
or just me?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread WaltS48

On 6/5/20 5:49 PM, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 >> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?



You don't need it with YouTube Studio.

I didn't.

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread Ray_Net

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread meagain

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?

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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-05 Thread WaltS48

On 6/5/20 1:09 PM, Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing 
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my 
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file 
might reveal, and this is what I found:


Name    Date modified    Type    Size
Sent    6/4/2020 7:23    File    2,605,188 ...
Sent.mst    6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File    2 KB

I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename 
the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf).  I then visited the the OLD 
Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new 
Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new 
folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst).  Well, all seemed to be 
going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a 
copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I 
attempted to send my test message:


Save Message
Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder 
(Sent) due to network or file access errors.
You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local 
Folders.

     Retry    Save    Don't Save

My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf 
folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the 
above window.  My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to 
see my saved message...I could not find my message.


All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my 
actions.  I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I 
sent a message.  I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely 
to its limits) and could not hold another message.  I also am not able 
to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload 
that exists.


I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of 
file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" 
and "Sent.msf folder".  I cannot figure out how to change the new 
folders to look like the old original folders.


Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage 
of my sent messages on my system.  I can delete the new Sent and 
Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to 
Sent and Sent.msf.


Frog

P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this 
thread.  Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time 
of trying to make my computer work.







I always thought that email messages went into that accounts Sent folder 
and not the Local Folders > Sent folder.


The Sent folder in Local Folders is where newsgroup messages I send get 
placed.


That's the way my SeaMonkey works anyway.

The Sent folder in Local Folders is a computer folder.

You need to configure the email accounts "Copies & Folders" settings to 
"Automatically place a copy in: "Sent" Folder on: Local Folders.


I always place the copy in the accounts Sent folder. It is the default 
location.


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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-05 Thread EE

Frog wrote:

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing 
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my 
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file 
might reveal, and this is what I found:


Name    Date modified    Type    Size
Sent    6/4/2020 7:23    File    2,605,188 ...
Sent.mst    6/4/2020 7.23 MSF File    2 KB

I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename 
the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf).  I then visited the the OLD 
Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new 
Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new 
folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst).  Well, all seemed to be 
going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a 
copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I 
attempted to send my test message:


Save Message
Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder 
(Sent) due to network or file access errors.
You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local 
Folders.

     Retry    Save    Don't Save

My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf 
folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the 
above window.  My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to 
see my saved message...I could not find my message.


All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my 
actions.  I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I 
sent a message.  I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely 
to its limits) and could not hold another message.  I also am not able 
to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload 
that exists.


I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of 
file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" 
and "Sent.msf folder".  I cannot figure out how to change the new 
folders to look like the old original folders.


Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage 
of my sent messages on my system.  I can delete the new Sent and 
Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to 
Sent and Sent.msf.


Frog

P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this 
thread.  Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time 
of trying to make my computer work.



Maybe if you had done things the other way around, it would have worked. 
 Instead of renaming the Sent folder, create a new folder called 
Sent-old and transfer the messages from Sent to that.  If you use the 
File button, it is very easy to transfer messages from one folder to 
another.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread EE

meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop supporting 
this browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to use 
a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.


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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-05 Thread Frog

On 6/3/2020 10:05 AM, Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


I have not given up on making SeaMonkey move a copy of an outgoing 
message to my Sent folder...and I might have found my answer to my 
problem. I took a look at Local Folders to see what clues the Sent file 
might reveal, and this is what I found:


NameDate modified   TypeSize
Sent6/4/2020 7:23   File2,605,188 ...
Sent.mst6/4/2020 7.23   MSF File2 KB

I decided that the Sent folder was likely full, so I proceeded to rename 
the two folders (OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf).  I then visited the the OLD 
Sent and OLD Sent.msf Properties in order to make a new Sent and a new 
Sent.msf folders like the original folders. Next, I created two new 
folders in Local Folders (Sent and Sent.mst).  Well, all seemed to be 
going good at this point; so I sent a test message to myself to see if a 
copy was placed in my sent file. I got the following window when I 
attempted to send my test message:


Save Message
Your message was sent, but a copy was not placed in your sent folder 
(Sent) due to network or file access errors.
You can retry or save the message locally to Local Folders/sent Local 
Folders.

Retry   SaveDon't Save

My thinking was, the system just needs to find the new Sent - Sent.msf 
folders and all would be working normally...thus, I clicked Save in the 
above window.  My next move was paying a visit to Local Files>Sent to 
see my saved message...I could not find my message.


All of the above tells me that something has changed as a result of my 
actions.  I did not receive any "Save Message" window previously, when I 
sent a message.  I also learned that the Sent folder was stuffed (likely 
to its limits) and could not hold another message.  I also am not able 
to find a way of opening the stuffed Sent folder to remove the overload 
that exists.


I did notice that the original folders simply identified the type of 
file as Sent and Sent.msf and the new folder identify is "Sent folder" 
and "Sent.msf folder".  I cannot figure out how to change the new 
folders to look like the old original folders.


Well, there you you have a recap of my actions taken to activate storage 
of my sent messages on my system.  I can delete the new Sent and 
Sent.msf folders and rename the the OLD_Sent and OLD_Sent.msf folders to 
Sent and Sent.msf.


Frog

P.S. I continue to think about the other suggestions made in this 
thread.  Be assured that they are all very much appreciated at this time 
of trying to make my computer work.





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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread WaltS48

On 6/5/20 8:47 AM, meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop supporting 
this browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to use 
a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


Probably more than users of the current Firefox version would.

However, I had no trouble logging into my Google account, clicking the 
"Skip to Studio" button on the unsupported browser page and creating a 
studio dashboard.


Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 
SeaMonkey/2.53.2 with no extensions.


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What is YouTube doing!?

2020-06-05 Thread meagain

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
www.youtube.com = Works

	studio.youtube.com	= Fails with "You are using an unsupported browser 
or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be slow or 
unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
	www.youtube.com		= Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop supporting this 
browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser."


	studio.youtube.com	= Fails with "You are using an unsupported browser 
or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be slow or 
unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to use 
a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain
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Re: Sent folder not recording my outgoing messages in SeaMonkey....Why?

2020-06-05 Thread Daniel

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 5/06/2020 4:24 AM:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 4/06/2020 12:48 AM:

Frog wrote:

Why are my outgoing messages not being recorded in the Sent folder?

Frog


Why are you opening new threads?

Make a complete Windows backup
Deinstall Seamonkey x86
Deinstall Seamonkey x64
Deinstall Thunderbird.
Reboot
Make sure that nothing is left in

C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey
C:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey

Install SeaMonkey 2.53.2 x64.


Frank-Rainer, I don't know if this would effect Frog at all  but 
should Frog be installing an x64 program on a WOW64 OS ... or might he 
be better off if he switched to the 32 bit SeaMonkey installer??


WOW64 is not an OS.  It is the subsystem of 64-bit Windows used to run 
32-bit applications, mainly for cases where a 64-bit version of the 
application is not available.  If something shows up as running on 
"WOW64", it means it's a 32-bit application running on a system which is 
capable of running 64-bit applications (64-bit Windows on a 64-bit CPU). 
  While that should work, Windows does a number of strange things for 
compatibility when running 32-bit applications under WOW64, so it's 
probably better to run the native 64-bit version if one is available 
(which it is for recent versions of SeaMonkey).


O.K., I'll try to remember to pull my head in!! ;-) I thought WOW64 was 
a 32-bit OS which had been modified to operate on a 64 bit system.


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