After the trojan IcedID copy only mail/newsgrou p-parts

[Ray_Net]

Hello,
I was so stupid, that I let install the IcedID trojan on my pc.
MalwareBytes removed it (may be not completely.
My anti-virus told me that some site had installed an extension into 
google-chrome and let me remove it.
So I plant to backup bookmarks by export/import in html and to copy the 
current profile.

Next step add/remove seamonkey program. followed with deleting
the C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\ directory
Install a fresh seamonkey. the new profile will be empty.
What can i do to retrieve all the mail/newsgroup part ?
When I importe the bookmark.html file, it would re-instate bookmark 
toolbar, bookmark menu and other bookmarks ?

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

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Bret Busby wrote on 28-03-21 14:52:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3



It seems like this is the end of all mozilla products. In other words, 
in no time all mozilla products will be dead.


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[ NOT SOLVED] Re: [ SOLVED ] Re: Blocking spam

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NFN Smith wrote on 04-03-21 01:46:

Ray_Net wrote:
I agree with you. Another good idea to not delete them is the fact, 
that when the spamming ends, I will see it.
BUT I think that my e-mail adresse will be present in their 
sending-list FOREVER 


No spam anymore ... because the stupid spammer use another list of 
victims ? Or because the forged domain has been black-listed ?


By my experience, it's likely that the campaign has ended.  That's 
really common, especially when you get bursts of spam that obviously 
originate from the same source.  They will blast the world for a few 
weeks, and then completely disappear. Unfortunately, it's far more 
often that they simply shut down a campaign rather than being taken 
out by blacklisting or provider shutdowns of spammer infrastructure.


Smith

This evening a got another stupid mail ...
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Re: Item on CAPTCHA handling

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NFN Smith wrote on 02-03-21 17:54:
One of the things that I've noticed about sites that use Google's 
CAPTCHA tool is that if I'm working in Seamonkey, sometimes it takes 
as many as 7 or 8 solved puzzles before I can get past the CAPTCHA, 
and of course, that's really annoying.


Something that I came across a week or so back is that that handling 
is unusual for users that use Chrome.  And I haven't checked, but it 
apparently more than a couple is unusual for Firefox users. It seems 
that the CAPTCHA is more critical of Firefox UA strings that show 
another browser name, as being more likely evidence of bot activity.


Since I do quite a bit with on-the-fly spoofing of user agents with 
PrefBar, I've been playing with CAPTCHA handling.  Right now, if I see 
a CAPTCHA, before I start interacting with the picture puzzles, I 
change my UA from Seamonkey to a UA string for a recent version of 
Chrome, and I'm finding that I see less CAPTCHA puzzles, two or three 
at the most, and sometimes, only one.  For good measure, I've found 
the same experience showing a UA string for Opera. I haven't yet 
checked a stock Firefox string, but I suspect that it will also cause 
fewer CAPTCHA puzzles than Seamonkey.


Once I get past the CAPTCHA dialog, then I remove spoofing, returning 
to my normal Seamonkey UA.



Anyway, it's nice to see that there's an apparent way for us Seamonkey 
users to make the CAPTCHAs less intrusive.


Smith


I have the same problem when signing in to zoom to create webinars ...
With Seamonkey I need 4 or 5 captcha success before able to work.
When I do the same with Google-Chrome - there is NO captcha at all
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[ SOLVED ] Re: Blocking spam

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Ray_Net wrote on 24-02-21 18:02:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 24-02-21 13:11:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/02/2021 22:54, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)


If it works really well, you could add a Delete action after mMrking 
as Junk!


/df



Dangerous.  I'd always want to make sure before deleting, "Delete 
Mail Marked as Junk in Folder" can then be used.


I agree with you. Another good idea to not delete them is the fact, 
that when the spamming ends, I will see it.
BUT I think that my e-mail adresse will be present in their 
sending-list FOREVER 
No spam anymore ... because the stupid spammer use another list of 
victims ? Or because the forged domain has been black-listed ?

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Re: Blocking spam

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 24-02-21 13:11:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 23/02/2021 22:54, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)


If it works really well, you could add a Delete action after mMrking 
as Junk!


/df



Dangerous.  I'd always want to make sure before deleting, "Delete Mail 
Marked as Junk in Folder" can then be used.


I agree with you. Another good idea to not delete them is the fact, that 
when the spamming ends, I will see it.
BUT I think that my e-mail adresse will be present in their sending-list 
FOREVER 

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Re: Blocking spam

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 23-02-21 04:35:

On 22/02/2021 23:21, Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 2/22/2021 4:52 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 22-02-21 11:41:

On 21/02/2021 22:44, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

I have two spam-mail at 6h30 and 23h30 each day.
All mails are totally different . the only partially fixed 
part is that line:


"Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com 
[81.29.1.46] (may be forged))"

...>


Create a message filter. Use the Customise... entry in the header 
pull-down to add the Received header to the menu. Filter on 
"Received" "contains" ".afrophree.com" -> Set Junk Status.


Sorry ... your idea does not work, because the domain names are 
always different the only fixed part is the ip adress range.from 
'81.29.0.0 to 81.29.15.255

... >

Received contains 81.29



Quite. Or to be completely accurate, 16 rules like "Received contains 
[81.29.0.", where the 0 is replaced by 1..15 for the other 15.


Based on this: % Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?
together with your idea ... I have created such a filter - it works 
pretty well. (tedious to create)

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Re: Blocking spam

[Ray_Net]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 22-02-21 11:41:

On 21/02/2021 22:44, Ray_Net wrote:

...>

I have two spam-mail at 6h30 and 23h30 each day.
All mails are totally different . the only partially fixed part 
is that line:


"Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com [81.29.1.46] 
(may be forged))"


The names of the news servers are always didderrent and thei domain 
is NOT part of the ip adress.


The ip-adresses are always different, but still of the same domain 
which is: iahoster.com


How can I create a filter to catch the range ip-adresses -->
% Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?

Create a message filter. Use the Customise... entry in the header 
pull-down to add the Received header to the menu. Filter on "Received" 
"contains" ".afrophree.com" -> Set Junk Status.


/df

Sorry ... your idea doesnot work, because the domain names are always 
different the only fixed part is the ip adress range.from '81.29.0.0 to 
81.29.15.255

Examples:
Received: from web-1.multhe.com (web-1.multhe.com [81.29.1.178] (may be 
forged))
Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com [81.29.1.46] 
(may be forged))
Received: from cloud-1.produchic.com (cloud-1.produchic.com 
[81.29.1.244] (may be forged))
Received: from cloud-1.alizarcresit.com (cloud-1.alizarcresit.com 
[81.29.1.47] (may be forged))
Received: from secure-1.boonawkerien.com (secure-1.boonawkerien.com 
[81.29.1.238] (may be forged))


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Re: Blocking spam

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WaltS48 wrote on 21-02-21 21:38:

On 2/21/21 1:12 PM, CC D wrote:

How do I block email addresses from unwanted spam. When I get these emails I 
hit the spam button but they keep coming back.



Are they from the same address?

I would create a filter and move them to Trash.

Also check the Junk filter settings.

--


I have two spam-mail at 6h30 and 23h30 each day.
All mails are totally different . the only partially fixed part is 
that line:


"Received: from news1.afrophree.com (news1.afrophree.com [81.29.1.46] 
(may be forged))"


The names of the news servers are always didderrent and thei domain is 
NOT part of the ip adress.


The ip-adresses are always different, but still of the same domain which 
is: iahoster.com


How can I create a filter to catch the range ip-adresses -->
% Information related to '81.29.0.0 - 81.29.15.255' ?

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Suddenly SMTP is slow

[Ray_Net]

SMTP takes 10 seconds now ...
Another account using the same smtp takes 2 seconds

The difference between them is that the problem occurs with the first 
account using the default smtp.
When I changed it to use the named-smtp-server (default) I have also a 2 
seconds waiting time..

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Re: Getting back to 2.49.5, but for how long ?

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NFN Smith wrote on 05-02-21 17:44:

Rubens wrote:


Today I upgraded to 2.53.6.


Did you back up your profile?  If not, you may have difficulties 
reverting, without data loss.  I forget where it started happening 
(perhaps 2.53.0), but as with Firefox, profiles are now no longer 
backward compatible.




But half of my dear extensions used for years stopped working.


Extensions are becoming increasingly difficult.  Firefox abandoned use 
of XUL-based extensions beginning at Firefox 57 (in favor of Google's 
WebExtensions), and Thunderbird has now done that since 78.0.


To a large degree, most extension developers have also abandoned 
support of the older structure, and all XUL content has been removed 
from addons.mozilla.org.  Many (but not all) Seamonkey extensions can 
still be found at addons.thunderbird.net/seamonkey.


There is also an extensive collection of Firefox, Thunderbird and 
Seamonkey extensions through the Classic Add-Ons Archive at 
https://github.com/JustOff/ca-archive .


As for what may work or not is going to depend on the extension. I've 
found that I can continue to run pretty much everything I want, from 
one of these sources.


It's also worth noting that for several of the most popular 
extensions, the release notes 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/ indicate 
current status, and links for download.  These include uBlock Origin, 
NoScript, Session Manager and Enigmail.  I've also found that PrefBar 
still works, but that the only source for that is from the developer's 
web site, and not any of the sources noted above.


The release notes also indicate that for some extensions, the coding 
may be fine to run in 2.53.6, but that in the underlying .XPI file, 
they may have a max version setting that won't allow for running past 
a certain version.  It's been a long time since I've needed to do it, 
but it is possible to edit a .XPI to set max version to be compatible 
with the version you're running.




Some of them have new WebEx-compatible updates though.

Does anybody know which future Seamonkey version is planned to 
support WebEx ?


WebEx is planned for 2.57, but isn't imminent, and developer notes 
indicate that there hasn't been any serious work started on 
implementation.


I do have an alpha of 2.57 installed, and in the current status, the 
browser pretty much works, but that's it.  The Mail and News client is 
not working, and there's no support for extensions, whether XUL or 
WebEx, and I don't expect any changes any time soon.


Smith

It looks like the end of SeaMonkey .
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How to correctly unsubscribe a newsgroup

[Ray_Net]

Hello,

After right-click on a newsgroup we can then click on unsubscribe ... 
and the newsgroup disappeared.


However in the profile under the News\\ directory the 2 
corresponding files .dat and .msf of the unsubscribed group are still 
present.

Could we delete them ?

Is that a safe action ? Or it could be more complicate to clean correctly ?
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Re: Updated SeaMonkey to 2.53.5.1 - Now I CAN'T RENAME EMAIL FOLDERS

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SalerPaul wrote on 13-12-20 03:01:

The default account folders or folders you created?
I can rename folders I created, not the default folders.

Folders I created. I've been using this system since Netscape Suite, never had 
this problem.
For now, I've found a workaround, renaming the folder in the PROPERTIES 
dialog...
I have another problem - seemingly unrelated, since it started a few weeks ago, 
and I just updated SeaMonkey a couple days ago - I can open .PDF files in 
Seamonkey, but can't PRINT them - because the PRINT dialog doesn't pop up... 
Similar to the way the RENAME FOLDER dialog won't pop up - though various other 
dialog boxes (such as PROPERTIES) open and work just fine! (To get around that 
problem, I have to download the .PDF file, then open and print it from a .PDF 
viewer.)
I don't get it.  Saler Paul
I don't know how I do it, but whane I click on a pdf file, I got a menu: 
"Save" or "Open with Foxi--Reader".

So I don't have your problem. And I am happy with that situation.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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David E. Ross wrote on 02-12-20 02:48:

On 12/1/2020 2:53 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55:

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
where I did not see the button.
Therefore I still be unable to connect.

If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask
them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims
Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true.


The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox  they
don't consider SM as a supported browser


As I replied earlier, that is what the credit union where I have had an
account for 50+ years said.  Instead, I am partway through the process
of abandoning the credit union.

In the meantime, I have accounts at another credit union (about 40
years), a commercial bank (over a decade), and a major mutual fund group
(25 years).  I can still do transactions in those accounts using
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7.  Today, I mailed letters to each of
those three, alerting them to the need to be backwards compatible as
they update their servers so that depositors and investors can continue
to use their legacy systems.


As I said before, I have a similar problem with my second bank.
Must I test all banks in belgium to find one where SM is ok ?

I just say that SM does not accept the future.
When SM will support the current situation, it's too late (and the 
situation have changed...

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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jcteyssier wrote on 01-12-20 18:55:

Ray_Net a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting 
me to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, 
I choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 


where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with 
Chrome) to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.

https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx
I have a button "Demander"
I clic here, then i get the button "Deveni client" and an other one 
"Se connecter"
"Se connecter" brings me to a login popup proposing several ways to 
connect (itsme, with and without usb device...)
Seamokey 2.53.1 FR win 10 64 bt with ublock origin active; all seem to 
work for me (but have no account so cna not try further)
Thanks for testing - going further is not needed. I just did not have 
"Devenir client" nor "Se connecter"

It's very strange that your SM 2.53.1 is working and not my SM 2.53.3
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 01-12-20 11:55:

On 30/11/2020 23:40, Ray_Net wrote:

...>
...
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.


If you have any response from the company's technical support, ask 
them to serve polyfills suitable for Firefox 56. SeaMonkey claims 
Gecko 60 but this is not entirely true.


The bank compagny says: Abandon SM ans use Chrome or Firefox  they 
don't consider SM as a supported browser

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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WaltS48 wrote on 30-11-20 02:34:

On 11/25/20 12:02 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Why are you using what appears to be a page for cell phone?

/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


The bank had changed their site making SM unusuable.
so under Chrome the bank say: Go to: https://www.belfius.be/
this will not permit me to connect - so they say click on any option, I 
choiced "mobile" and then
I go to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

where I can see the connection red button

BUT they have, just now, corrected their site and now going(with Chrome) 
to https://www.belfius.be/
redirect me immediately to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I can see the button.

without passing by another step.

So now with SM:
https://www.belfius.be/ after accepting cookies I am redirected to
https://www.belfius.be/about-us/en.html
where  I can click on retail
This action bring me to https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/index.aspx 
where I did not see the button.

Therefore I still be unable to connect.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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JAS wrote on 27-11-20 01:10:

Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't 
send

shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df


This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?
Can you install Firefox or maybe Chrome also portable from 
https://portableapps.com/ on a USB drive and run it from there when 
the need arises to use another browser. I have 
Edge,Chrome,Opera,Firefox and also Thunderbird installed on one and 
run them when I need to or just to test them out and have imported my 
bookmarks and setting on each.


JAS
Too late :-) :-) I have installed directly in my pc without trying the 
portable version :-)

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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 27-11-20 20:47:

On 26/11/2020 16:13, Ray_Net wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:
...>
A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


Which is likely because it also wants to use the Shadow DOM feature, 
which is really too complicated to implement outside the browser core.



This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?


The next significant SM browser upgrade (possibly the last) is being 
developed as 2.57 based on the Gecko engine used in Firefox 60 but 
Shadow DOM (and Custom Elements) appeared in 63. Those would have to 
be backported by the SM devs, so don't hold your breath.


/df

Thank you for those "details" .. IT seeme that more and more often I 
should use other browsers.

This one now is also not working with SM: https://login.one.com/mail
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Yamo' wrote on 27-11-20 09:20:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 26/11/2020 01:25:

I have bookmarked it and the result is the same.
Also for me, it looaded, but the top part of page is missing.
You should see in the upper right part a red button like this one:
**
* S'inscrire *
**
dit you see that button ?

No any button "s'inscrire" in pages...


What SM version did you use ? mine is 2.53.3

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
SeaMonkey/2.53.5

May this website is only working in Belgium?


This site works everywhere ... You don't see the "S'inscrire" button, 
because SM did not work correctly with this site.

Try using Chrome or Firefox - ans you will see this login-button.
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Dirk Fieldhouse wrote on 26-11-20 15:46:

On 26/11/2020 05:42, Daniel wrote:

.. Does it help if you make both "83.0"??


No, because as Lemuel posted before, the site assumes that the browser
offers a JavaScript interface that SM doesn't yet have, and doesn't send
shim code ("polyfill") to provide it.

A polyfill that works for GitHub seems to send belfius into endless 
recursion.


/df


This seems correct, because the website dit not test the UA string.
Anyway ... in what SM version "polyfill" will work ?
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Lemuel Johnson wrote on 25-11-20 21:08:

On 11/25/2020 11:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me 
to be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


See thread beginning Sept 2, 2020: RottenTomatoes.com rejects 
SeaMonkey even with fake UAs.


That site (and your bank) requires a browser that has support for the 
javascript object windows.customElements.  I don't think that's yet 
present in SeaMonkey.
I now also have another problem with a site I used often - it's 
https://login.one.com/mail

This one say that my browser is too old and I need to use ..blablabla... :-)
Putting this in user.js:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.belfius.be", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");
user_pref("general.useragent.override.one.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/83.0");

did not correct the two problems.

<https://developers.whatismybrowser.com/useragents/parse/?analyse-my-user-agent=yes> 


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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

David H. Durgee wrote on 25-11-20 23:29:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 25-11-20 20:33:

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to:
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting 
me to

be connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.


I have two bank accounts in two different banks.
I agreed to abandon SM for the first bank, but now I have a similar 
problem with the second bank. I should also abandon SM for this 
second bank ?...
SM is not able to access now 2 banks, How can I find another bank 
compatible with SM ? And If I found one ... If they upgrade their 
website, it could be that SM will stop working.

It seems that things evolve, but not SM, or not rapidly enough.

Now the question is: Is someone with the latest SM that can see if 
The header is present containing a login red-button labelled "Se 
connecter" when going
  to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 
?


A question for you, can you simply bookmark the above and use it in 
SeaMonkey?  I was able to paste the link and it loaded, but I don't 
read French and thus don't know if this is working correctly.


Of course if they change the link behind the scenes again you will 
need to update your link, and if the JavaScript enhancement is still 
missing from SeaMonkey you might need to pull it from another browser.


I hope this is helpful.

Dave


I have bookmarked it and the result is the same.
Also for me, it looaded, but the top part of page is missing.
You should see in the upper right part a red button like this one:
**
* S'inscrire *
**
dit you see that button ?
What SM version did you use ? mine is 2.53.3
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

David E. Ross wrote on 25-11-20 20:33:

On 11/25/2020 9:02 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,

Going to:
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx

shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to
be connected to my bank.

This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


Change banks.  I am in the process of closing my accounts at a credit
union where I have been a member (customer) for over 50 years.  I am
moving to another credit union.

The issue is that commerical Web sites often have their server software
updated.  What they fail to do is remain compatible with legacy systems
used by theit customers.  That indicates a lack of concern for those
whose transactions provide the profits that keep their businesses
operating.


I have two bank accounts in two different banks.
I agreed to abandon SM for the first bank, but now I have a similar 
problem with the second bank. I should also abandon SM for this second 
bank ?...
SM is not able to access now 2 banks, How can I find another bank 
compatible with SM ? And If I found one ... If they upgrade their 
website, it could be that SM will stop working.

It seems that things evolve, but not SM, or not rapidly enough.

Now the question is: Is someone with the latest SM that can see if The 
header is present containing a login red-button labelled "Se connecter" 
when going
 to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 
?

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Unable to work with by bank now with SM

[Ray_Net]

Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx


shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.
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Re: is Facebook mostly broken now on seamonkey?

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Ant wrote on 08-11-20 21:54:

 I refuse to use Chrome


I need to go on a site where with SM and FireFox the vertical scroll-bar 
is missing.

Chrome works correctly.
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Re: How to Set SeaMonkey as default mail client in Windwso 10?

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Rob Steinmetz wrote on 15-10-20 21:29:

WaltS48 wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I had to reset my Windows 10 installation. That was a bad idea. It 
essentially deleted all of my programs. I'm adding back the ones I 
need but I can't seem to get SeaMonkey set as the Default Mail 
program so Libre Office and Foxit PDF reader (and probably other 
applications) can't sent mail.


I gone into the Default applications and Windows offers SeaMonkey as 
one of the mail options so I set it. It doesn't work. I suspect I 
need to do something more.


Can anyone tell me how to do this?



Edit > Preferences > Mail & Newsgroups section, under the *General 
Settings* heading, you will find "Make SeaMonkey the default 
application for:".


I think you click the "Mail" button.
Under Preferences->Mail and Newsgroups in the Main Menu there is a 
setting to

"Use SeaMonkey Mail & News as the default application for:
Mail News Feeds"



I did not have that.
I have "Make SeaMonkey the default application for:".
With under this line 3 big buttons "Mail", "News" and "Feeds"
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

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rmpbklyn wrote on 15-10-20 01:42:

On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:16:12 PM UTC-4, dstamat wrote:

On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 10:49:20 AM UTC+2, Ant wrote:

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...

Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is that some 
extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon Seamonkey will be 
compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then it will be a struggle for 
all Seamonkey fans.

Which extensions?
--

The extensions that matter the most and which do not work in 2.53.4 are 
X-notifier 3.5.23 and Forecastfox (fix version) 2.4.8. These are the last 
versions that ever worked with Seamonkey. When Seamonkey becomes really 
compatible with WEBEXT extensions I will be able to use the latest versions now 
developed for Firefox. Until then I will either stay with 2.49.5 or move to 
Chrome.

Regards

Dimitris

try this site to find similar 
https://unofficialseamonkeynews.wordpress.com/2019/01/04/many-old-type-firefox-addons-lost/
I have tried AdBlock Plus 
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/adblock-plus-pop-up-addon/


and the result is:

Oops! We can’t find that page

If you’ve followed a link from another site for an extension or theme, 
that item is no longer available. This could be because:


 * The developer removed it. Developers commonly do this because they
   no longer support the extension or theme, or have replaced it.
 * Mozilla removed it. This can happen when issues are found during the
   review of the extension or theme, or the extension or theme has been
   abusing the terms and conditions for addons.mozilla.org. The
   developer has the opportunity to resolve the issues and make the
   add-on available again.

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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 11-10-20 10:49:

On 10/11/2020 1:43 AM, dstamat wrote:
...
Since it was mentioned, the reason I have not upgraded to 2.53.4, is 
that some extensions do not work there. I am hoping that soon 
Seamonkey will be compatible with all Firefox extensions. Until then 
it will be a struggle for all Seamonkey fans.


Which extensions?
There are a lot of extensions that have been created in the WEBEXT 
format which are not compatible with SM current version.

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Re: how do i backup my profile

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 09-10-20 20:57:


key3.db and cert8.db might not exist after SeaMonkey has updated the 
profile.  Check the numbers in those file names - DO NOT delete 
key4.db and cert9.db, since those are the versions in the new format.



I am under 2.53.3 and I have all those 4 files ...
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

[Ray_Net]

David H. Durgee wrote on 04-10-20 15:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it
freezes in the lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this
happen to Chrome? The STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't
close the window. Just the damn hourglass...

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
--
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see
this signature correctly.
Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._
(L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-.
Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";.
Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `.
===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,-
--/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
___/// __ __ __ __  | ___
/// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/
---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\
--///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ;
__///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// /
_/// | , | \ ---\\\ .'
___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-'
\ \ \ /
ASCII art by `. \ \ ,'
-bodom- `. \ \ ,'
Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-'
to e-mail if needed. `--\..--'

If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe
to change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest
thing is the email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over
from Gmail.  Also being able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?

Have you seen the latest Thunderbird?  Ugh. I prefer SeaMonkey over both
Thunderbird and FireFox.  If someone could develop a SeaMonkey theme for
them perhaps I could tolerate them, but as is now I use FireFox only
when I absolutely must.

Dave

Thunderbird is more simple .. I appreciate it.
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Re: Seamonkey freezing on new Facebook

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Stephen Katz wrote on 04-10-20 00:21:

On Saturday, October 3, 2020 at 12:53:17 PM UTC-7, Ant wrote:

On 10/3/2020 11:38 AM, Stephen Katz wrote:
...

Youtube not a big issue. It's mostly the sites with ads. When it freezes in the 
lower left says waiting for so-n-so. Why doesn't this happen to Chrome? The 
STOP button doesn't work either. And you can't close the window. Just the damn 
hourglass...

Is your SM better if you use an ad blocker with uBlock Origin? It's not
perfect, but it helps. Lots of web sites don't care for older browsers
like SeaMonkey that use older Gecko web browser engine (Firefox v57). If
you try the new Firefox v81.0.1, lots of web sites work fine even with
ads (not recommended IMO). :(
--
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see
this signature correctly.
Go Los Angeles _..n-"""/""--.._
(L.A.) Lakers! .n' _.-\-""("""--._`-.
Cool Miami ' .\' \ `. ``";.
Heat! ___/_-" | \ `. `.
===/// , ,-. .- .-; , , ,- ,L , ,_ ,-
--/// /_ |_/ _) /""|/|/ |_] /=_ /_ /=_ _)
___/// __ __ __ __  | ___
/// --/|| --// .' // "/ _// ))|(| "/
---/// /' || _//.; __//_. //_="' _\\
--///- -/---|| //'|| // ', _// ;| \\ ;
__///|__/_ _||_/< `||_//__"/ _// --|\ /-._// /
_/// | , | \ ---\\\ .'
___///_"/ | \ /`;=__.-'
\ \ \ /
ASCII art by `. \ \ ,'
-bodom- `. \ \ ,'
Remove ANT `-._ \ \ _.-'
to e-mail if needed. `--\..--'

If I am reading you all right Seamonkey has had it's day.  I am loathe to 
change as it has been my friend for over 20-years.  My biggest thing is the 
email, I am used to it and love it.  It pops right over from Gmail.  Also being 
able to send a link.  Chrome doesn't do that.
I might as well for now run two browsers.  Sad...

"is the email, I am used to it and love it."
Why not using thunderbird ?
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Re: Lightning

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Larry S. wrote on 23-09-20 22:50:

How do I get shut off Lightning?

Larry S.

I have disabled the Lightning extension ... (in Add-On Manager)
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[ SOLVED ] Re: No vertical scroll bar ...

[Ray_Net]

Paul Bergsagel wrote on 03-09-20 04:33:

Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 9/2/2020 7:34 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

No vertical scroll bar ...

https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/

Works ok with Google Chrome.

Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-)



Well, yes.  The "body" stanza of the site CSS includes the rule:
 overflow:  -moz-scrollbars-none;

If I disable that rule using Developer Tools the scrollbar re-appears.

I have no idea what they are trying to accomplish with that.

Lem Johnson

Maybe this is to passively "force" users not to use SeaMonkey.


NO ...
I had contacted the registar of the site who pass my mail (explaining 
what Lemuel Johnson had discovered) to the webmaster of the site AND HE 
SOLVED the problem..


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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!

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NFN Smith wrote on 14-09-20 17:58:

Daniel wrote:


Hmm! Ray, I just clicked on your link, with, I believe, my stock 
standard SM 2.49.5 UA showing, and basically got a Blank Screen 
... with a scroll-bar down the right hand side. So I scrolled 
waaa down, and got an ad for the Pixel 4a "Your Pixel 4a comes 
with 3 months of Google One.".


Is this what people are missing?? Or is there supposed to be 
something in all that blank screen??


I just took another look at that link, and I confirm that content is 
showing if you do a lot of scrolling, I do see the expected content, 
even if not quite rendering in the way that Google expects it.


I'm running 2.53.3.

Smith

Correct. I have the same so it's normal that I wrote "..doesnot work."
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Re: Website seems to work in Google Chrome only- HELP!!!

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NFN Smith wrote on 12-09-20 18:27:

Danny Kile wrote:

Tried to access the following website
https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a

Would not run in SeaMonkey no matter what I used for a User Agent. 
Then I tried Pale Moon and it would not run with it. I then tried 
Internet Explorer and it was a no go also. Then I tried it with 
Google Chrome and it works with it. So what is so different about 
Chrome? How do I get it to run in SeaMonkey?


Google has its own way of how they want to do things.

For simple interaction, I've found that even the search bar at 
google.com has a display quirk. However, if set the User Agent to show 
*only* Firefox, the quirk goes away.  Thus, in about:config, I have 
added an entry:



 general.useragent.override.google.com    Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0


I can't speak for Internet Explorer, but with Mozilla-derived 
browsers, it seems that Google doesn't handle things well if the UA 
string shows both "Firefox" and the name of the true browser. I've 
tested with both Seamonkey and PaleMoon, and I presume the same 
applies to Waterfox, as well.  If you show *just* Firefox, then that 
problem goes away.


You could probably get the same effect if you spoof a Chromium 
browser, whether Chrome proper, or a Chromium derivative, such as the 
new Edge, Opera, etc.


On the other hand, I've seen developer notes that indicate that where 
Google is going with YouTube, there's beginning to appear some things 
that work properly only in Chromium browsers, and even some stuff that 
may not work as well in Firefox, especially versions older than 78.x ESR.


Although you don't' have to abandon Seamonkey, you may want to get 
used to the idea that you don't necessarily use Seamonkey for 
everything (remember, there's nothing that requires you to commit to 
exclusive use of a single browser), and be prepared to use something 
other than Seamonkey to interact with certain sites.


Smith

You said: "If you show *just* Firefox, then that problem goes away. "

I have: user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");


And the https://store.google.com/us/product/pixel_4a
doesnot work.
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Re: No vertical scroll bar ...

[Ray_Net]

Richard Owlett wrote on 02-09-20 15:10:

On 09/02/2020 07:34 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

No vertical scroll bar ...

https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/

Works ok with Google Chrome.

Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-)


https://validator.w3.org/ reports > 20 warnings and > 100 errors.


But Google Chrome can cope with it :-)

My: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3


AND I notice that the page load with the vertical scroll-bar who 
vanished  by going to the right until it is outside the window, so 
inaccessible :-)

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No vertical scroll bar ...

[Ray_Net]

No vertical scroll bar ...

https://fr.surveymonkey.com/mp/legal/cookies/

Works ok with Google Chrome.

Again you will say that the problem is at te webmaster of the site :-)
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Re: Slow Scrolling

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EE wrote on 30-08-20 20:54:

Tom Pamin wrote:
Very slow to scroll down web pages with SM lately (on more than one 
PC). Edge works fine. Any ideas?


You could try smooth scrolling.  I prefer that because it is less 
jumpy that way.



How to smooth scroll ? Is it an SM option/parameter ?
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Re: Accessing Xfinity Support Page SM 2.53.3 Win 10 Pro

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Samuel S wrote on 29-08-20 17:35:

Hello all,

I just changed my provider to Xfinity from Fios and am having an issue 
with accessing Xfinity's Support pages.


I get the message that I must update my browser, despite using HTTP 
1.1 and the UAS in SM to Identify as Firefox.


Is there something more I can do to sidestep this besides using Chrome 
or Firefox?


TIA - bo1953


I can go here https://www.xfinity.com/support/contact-us without problem:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).


Perhaps you downloaded the proposed executable .exe file and run it.
My way of using zoom is to refuse, but ask the download and at a certain 
moment zoom propose me to work inside the brower.
To see if you can use/open your microphone and camera, could you try 
https://meet.jit.si/RAY-MEETING
When I try this I have in the bottom of the screen this text: "Audio and 
video error: navigator mediaDevices is undefined"
If this is the same ... we have the same problem and you use zoom 
directly by running their program.
Note for Frank-Rainer Grahl who want to  hand me a tissue :-) : I am not 
complaining, it's just to understand why mister "meagain" can use zoom.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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meagain wrote on 18-08-20 16:37:

 Original Message 

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted 
adopting the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the 
digital world, but it has become too burdensome to continue being a 
browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).

This is my User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.3
and zoom, nor other online-meeting are working. Perhaps is because you 
use the 64 version ? I have installed the 32 bits)

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 16-08-20 01:14:



Ray_Net wrote:

EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem 
with SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.




Should I hand you a tissue so that you can whine quietly and in 
private? As stated that was never a supported feature and we do what 
we can. If it is not enough for you just leave. A lot of sites I never 
vist have probably problems. The ones I use frequently still work but 
I am staying away from google based services where 90% of the bigger 
problems are.


FRG
So, what must I do when: I can fill a form but the XMIT button did not 
work using SM.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 22:59:

Ray_Net wrote:

Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 02:27:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then 
Netscape Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by 
the quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully 
function on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can 
do all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do 
all this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like 
a lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open 
in Chrome, which is now my default. I have always resisted adopting 
the most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, 
but it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.



Why not using Thunderbird as mail program instead of SM ?

Ray_Net,

Because I already have SM mail working the way I like it, and I don't 
want to have to go through a new install, configuration, connecting to 
4 email accounts, and figure out how to get TB to open links in Chrome.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
I suppose that because thunderbird is not a suite, the only way of 
starting a browser to open  a link is to pass the link information to 
the default browser - more simple than using SM.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function 
on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but 
it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with 
SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work 
using SM.


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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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Lance Courtland wrote on 15-08-20 02:27:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM.  However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and kluges, 
each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function on a 
wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but it 
has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.



Why not using Thunderbird as mail program instead of SM ?
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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/12/2020 9:47 AM:



Ant wrote:

On 8/11/2020 2:20 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
...
It's strange that you said that jit.si have a problem ... because 
jit.si works very welle whan I access it using Google Chrome.


Yes and it worked with 2.49 and it failed with 2.53. There is a bug 
open. Might even work now again. I put a lot of stuff in lately.


What's the URL for that bug report?--


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1624636
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1624178

If Jitsi uses web components it will not work.


In what SM version could we expect that web components will work ?
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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Ant wrote on 8/11/2020 11:40 PM:

On 8/11/2020 2:20 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
...
It's strange that you said that jit.si have a problem ... because 
jit.si works very welle whan I access it using Google Chrome.


Yes and it worked with 2.49 and it failed with 2.53. There is a bug 
open. Might even work now again. I put a lot of stuff in lately.


What's the URL for that bug report?--


Perhaps this one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1419507
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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/11/2020 11:20 PM:



Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/11/2020 6:22 PM:



Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/11/2020 4:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
I had problem with ZOOM ... so I test it with two other free sites 
(because a ZOOM meeting must be opened by someone paying for the 
use of it)
I was in SM 2.49.1 and I expected that this problem will be 
resolved with the latest 2.53.3 - NO - NOT SOLVED - SM is UNUSABLE 
...


Those are my latest tests:

-

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
give a blank screen

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
give a screen with:
It looks like you're using a browser we don't support
Please try again with the latest version of Chrome or Firefox.

*** THEREFORE I DO ***
for both - creating in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.jit.si", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

restarting SM and testing:

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
works but unable to use the camera nor the microphone

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
works, but:
- Cannot start the camera -no reason
- Cannot start the microphone
   reason: Failed to access your microphone - Cannot use 
microphone for an unknown reason navigator mediaDevices is undefined.


*** AND NOW WITH CHROME ***

With Google Chrome:
https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne 
or stop/start the camera.

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne 
or start/stop the camera.




I have a free ZOOM account.  I hosted a meeting last Friday with no 
problems.


Lem Johnson



Probably used Issacs add-on as mentioned in the release notes. 
jit.si seems to have a problem right now. Imported more webrtc 
patches but not sure if already fixed.




I don't understand what you are saying.
I just say that with jit.si, infomaniak.com AND zoom - all those 
"site" are unsuable, because they cannot access the microphone nor 
the camera when accessed by SeaMonkey.


Yes because this feature/webrtc was never officially supported. 
SeaMonkey will not show the notification. I tried to make it work but 
needs extensive changes in the tabbwoser code among other things.


It's strange that you said that jit.si have a problem ... because 
jit.si works very welle whan I access it using Google Chrome.


Yes and it worked with 2.49 and it failed with 2.53. There is a bug 
open. Might even work now again. I put a lot of stuff in lately.


But for all this to work you need an add-on which is mentioned in the 
release notes. But it is easier to just rant.


FRG
OK, Thanks for the explanations. I will wait until resolved ... because 
I have a detour using another browser.

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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Ant wrote on 8/11/2020 11:40 PM:

On 8/11/2020 1:59 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
...
I have tried to participate on a zoom meeting and the result is the 
same - I was obliged to use Google Chrome.


Why not Firefox?
Firefox is not installed on my pc. and I have another way also: 
Using Microsoft Edge works also perfectly.

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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/11/2020 6:22 PM:



Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 8/11/2020 4:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
I had problem with ZOOM ... so I test it with two other free sites 
(because a ZOOM meeting must be opened by someone paying for the use 
of it)
I was in SM 2.49.1 and I expected that this problem will be resolved 
with the latest 2.53.3 - NO - NOT SOLVED - SM is UNUSABLE ...


Those are my latest tests:

-

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
give a blank screen

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
give a screen with:
It looks like you're using a browser we don't support
Please try again with the latest version of Chrome or Firefox.

*** THEREFORE I DO ***
for both - creating in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.jit.si", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

restarting SM and testing:

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
works but unable to use the camera nor the microphone

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
works, but:
- Cannot start the camera -no reason
- Cannot start the microphone
   reason: Failed to access your microphone - Cannot use microphone 
for an unknown reason navigator mediaDevices is undefined.


*** AND NOW WITH CHROME ***

With Google Chrome:
https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne 
or stop/start the camera.

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne 
or start/stop the camera.




I have a free ZOOM account.  I hosted a meeting last Friday with no 
problems.


Lem Johnson



Probably used Issacs add-on as mentioned in the release notes. jit.si 
seems to have a problem right now. Imported more webrtc patches but 
not sure if already fixed.




I don't understand what you are saying.
I just say that with jit.si, infomaniak.com AND zoom - all those "site" 
are unsuable, because they cannot access the microphone nor the camera 
when accessed by SeaMonkey.
I did not test it with Firefox, because only SM and Google Chtome are 
installed on my pc.
It's strange that you said that jit.si have a problem ... because jit.si 
works very welle whan I access it using Google Chrome.

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Re: Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

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Lemuel Johnson wrote on 8/11/2020 5:33 PM:

On 8/11/2020 4:25 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
I had problem with ZOOM ... so I test it with two other free sites 
(because a ZOOM meeting must be opened by someone paying for the use 
of it)
I was in SM 2.49.1 and I expected that this problem will be resolved 
with the latest 2.53.3 - NO - NOT SOLVED - SM is UNUSABLE ...


Those are my latest tests:

-

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
give a blank screen

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
give a screen with:
It looks like you're using a browser we don't support
Please try again with the latest version of Chrome or Firefox.

*** THEREFORE I DO ***
for both - creating in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.jit.si", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

restarting SM and testing:

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
works but unable to use the camera nor the microphone

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
works, but:
- Cannot start the camera -no reason
- Cannot start the microphone
   reason: Failed to access your microphone - Cannot use microphone 
for an unknown reason navigator mediaDevices is undefined.


*** AND NOW WITH CHROME ***

With Google Chrome:
https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
stop/start the camera.

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
start/stop the camera.




I have a free ZOOM account.  I hosted a meeting last Friday with no 
problems.




I have tried to participate on a zoom meeting and the result is the same 
- I was obliged to use Google Chrome.

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Another reason to avoid using SEAMONKEY

[Ray_Net]

I had problem with ZOOM ... so I test it with two other free sites 
(because a ZOOM meeting must be opened by someone paying for the use of it)
I was in SM 2.49.1 and I expected that this problem will be resolved 
with the latest 2.53.3 - NO - NOT SOLVED - SM is UNUSABLE ...


Those are my latest tests:

-

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
give a blank screen

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
give a screen with:
It looks like you're using a browser we don't support
Please try again with the latest version of Chrome or Firefox.

*** THEREFORE I DO ***
for both - creating in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.jit.si", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 
6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

restarting SM and testing:

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
works but unable to use the camera nor the microphone

https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
works, but:
- Cannot start the camera -no reason
- Cannot start the microphone
  reason: Failed to access your microphone - Cannot use microphone for 
an unknown reason navigator mediaDevices is undefined.


*** AND NOW WITH CHROME ***

With Google Chrome:
https://meet.jit.si/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
stop/start the camera.

https://meet.infomaniak.com/MY-MEETING
Works immediately with the possibility to stop/start the microphne or 
start/stop the camera.


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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

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Rob Steinmetz wrote on 06-07-20 21:02:
Like many people I have been doing web conferences lately. I added a 
USB camers to my desktop, so I could participate more easily. It 
generally works fine except it does not seem to work in seamonkey. I 
feel I must be missing something. The camera does work in other browsers.


What am I doing worng?
Finally my old and new pc cannot uss my inbuilt camera with SM: - other 
browsers works as a charm.

My inbuilt camera have a led which is on when it is in use.
With other browsers this led is on immediately,
With SM this led did not came "on"
So I say that SM did not try to access the camera.
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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

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Ray_Net wrote on 06-07-20 23:32:

Rob Steinmetz wrote on 06-07-20 21:26:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I was attempting to use zoom in the browser, I have a need to use 
webex as well. I also tried to use some of the camera test websites 
and they give me a error that my browser is not compatible.



Is there some reason you want to use your browser?

My general experience is that native conferencing apps work better 
than web browsers (and not just Seamonkey). The conferencing 
companies tout the ease of using a web broswer, but that hasn't been 
my experience


I mostly want to be sure SeaMonkey is working and it doesn't seem to be.


I have the same problem SEAMONKEY IS NOT WORKING AT ALL.

I use often ZOOM and this is working like a charm when I use Google 
Chrome (unable to work with SM)
You may also test immediately using this link 
https://meet.infomaniak.com/browser (if one or more clink on this 
link, they a re conferencing immediately when using Google Chrome.

Doesn't work at all using SM.

Errare humanum est.
Now it works on my old pc - the camera was switched on, but no image - 
on ANY browser - then I roll-back the camera driver and all goes well on 
my old pc even while with SM.
On my new pc ... other browser switched on the camera and are able to 
work - WITH SM .. SM did not switch on my camera... that's another problem.

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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

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Ray_Net wrote on 06-07-20 23:32:

Rob Steinmetz wrote on 06-07-20 21:26:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I was attempting to use zoom in the browser, I have a need to use 
webex as well. I also tried to use some of the camera test websites 
and they give me a error that my browser is not compatible.



Is there some reason you want to use your browser?

My general experience is that native conferencing apps work better 
than web browsers (and not just Seamonkey). The conferencing 
companies tout the ease of using a web broswer, but that hasn't been 
my experience


I mostly want to be sure SeaMonkey is working and it doesn't seem to be.


I have the same problem SEAMONKEY IS NOT WORKING AT ALL.

I use often ZOOM and this is working like a charm when I use Google 
Chrome (unable to work with SM)
You may also test immediately using this link 
https://meet.infomaniak.com/browser (if one or more clink on this 
link, they a re conferencing immediately when using Google Chrome.

Doesn't work at all using SM.


I hate to use Microsoft Edge, but I give it a try AND this is working 
very well also.


Perhaps SM needs to have installed Flash-Player (I did not install it on 
my new pc, and removed on my old pc) which nearly obsolete.


*Flash* on the internet has essentially become *obsolete*. It is a huge, 
consistent attack vector and the only means of viewing *Flash* content 
is through the *Flash Player plugin*. ... Until the end of 2020, Adobe 
will remain committed to its *Flash* software

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Re: Webcam with Seamonkey?

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Rob Steinmetz wrote on 06-07-20 21:26:

Bill Spikowski wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I was attempting to use zoom in the browser, I have a need to use 
webex as well. I also tried to use some of the camera test websites 
and they give me a error that my browser is not compatible.



Is there some reason you want to use your browser?

My general experience is that native conferencing apps work better 
than web browsers (and not just Seamonkey). The conferencing 
companies tout the ease of using a web broswer, but that hasn't been 
my experience


I mostly want to be sure SeaMonkey is working and it doesn't seem to be.


I have the same problem SEAMONKEY IS NOT WORKING AT ALL.

I use often ZOOM and this is working like a charm when I use Google 
Chrome (unable to work with SM)
You may also test immediately using this link 
https://meet.infomaniak.com/browser (if one or more clink on this link, 
they a re conferencing immediately when using Google Chrome.

Doesn't work at all using SM.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

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Daniel wrote on 19-06-20 06:42:

Steve Wendt wrote on 18/06/2020 4:32 AM:

On 6/17/2020 4:50 AM, Gunther Nikl wrote:


Maybe my (ancient :-) client cached the post?


Does your SeaMonkey/1.1.19 show the post from Ant with subject 
"Missing newsgroup posts" in this thread?  If so, that does point to 
a bug in newer versions.


"SeaMonkey/1.1.19"!! WOW!! I thought there *MUST* have been a typo 
crept in there somehow  but, sure enough, that's what Gunther's UA 
shows!!


His user agent is:

User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.2; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) 
Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/2.0 SeaMonkey/1.1.19

Looks like a VERY VERY OLD "override" because we see : Firefox 2.0 :-)

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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 14-06-20 01:43:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 4:41 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that 
comment from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, 
reply from the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which 
has been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the 
new one as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site 
did not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?

<https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/>

Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 
<http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>


In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update 
and reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates 
(converts) your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You 
only need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The 
profiles are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?


No, just install 2.53.2 over 2.49.1 after backing up your profile in 
case you want to go back to 2.49.whatever.




2.49.1 is x86 and if he wants x64 he should uninstall before.

FRG

64bits SM is better than 32bits ?
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Re: [ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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WaltS48 wrote on 13-06-20 21:22:

On 6/13/20 2:40 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/13/20 12:30 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not 
visible on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one? (suggestion, reply from 
the other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one 
as well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did 
not accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, 
without solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 


on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and 
MyDrive-Tomtom.

This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.


Update to at least SM 2.49.5?

<https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/>

Although 2.53.2 is the current version at 
<http://www.seamonkey-project.org/>


In case you don't know, if you update from 2.49.x to 2.53.x, you 
can't fall back unless you saved your profile before the update and 
reload it - the first time you execute 2.53.x it updates (converts) 
your profile and makes it incompatable to the old level.
- in addition, 2.49.5 (and above) are also available as 64-bit 
versions.   If you want a 64-bit version then you download it, 
uninstall your 32-bit version and install the new version.  You only 
need to do that when you migrate from 32-bit to 64-bit. The profiles 
are compatable between 2.49.1 and 2.49.5.




Thanks for the reminder. :)

I'm just wondering why Ray_Net is still on an old SM 2.49.1.


I think that I use the 64bits SM seeing:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

Correct ?

What I will do is:
- Stopping SM - re-boot to be sure that SM is not running.
- Copy my profile somewhere.
- Uninstall my SM 2.49.1
- Install the SM 2.53.3 (I am waiting for this version)
Is it a good idea ?
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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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EE wrote on 13-06-20 22:27:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Why not use the latest official release of SeaMonkey?  The latest is 
2.53.2.



I am waiting the 2.53.3
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[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ] Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2 

is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible 
on my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment 
from your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the 
other one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1


Your add-ons are the same?  If you have a script-blocker which has 
been "trained" on the old machine, is the training on the new one as 
well?

Restarting with add-ons disabled would maybe a good test there.


[ PARTIALLY SOLVED ]

I have also another problem on my new pc:  the Google-Maps site did not 
accept my search text.

I know that this problem is solved by stopping SM then restart it.
So i do it - and all goes well with Google-Maps.
Then I read your post and I was playing around, on my old pc, without 
solution.
Finally I re-test the page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2

on my new pc and MIRACLE - all goes well.
So I have sometimes a problem affecting Google-Maps and MyDrive-Tomtom.
This problem is avoided by re-booting SM.
Now ... How to find it ? That's another problem.
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Re: Map not visible with SM on my new pc

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 13-06-20 17:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2
is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on 
my new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?


Works for me, the map is of Brussels.  Did you post that comment from 
your old machine or the new one?  (suggestion, reply from the other 
one and we can check user-agents).



On my old pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

On my new pc:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

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Map not visible with SM on my new pc

[Ray_Net]

Hello;
This page: 
https://mydrive.tomtom.com/fr_be/#+viewport=50.84627,4.3547,16,0,-0+ver=2
is ok, the map is visible with my SM on my old pc but not visible on my 
new pc.

Same version of SM on both pc.

It works ok on my new pc with Google-Chrome.


Any idea ?
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Re: Plugin for Seamonkey

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EE wrote on 10-06-20 21:05:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote on 10-06-20 05:32:

Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube
performance.  Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on
ClipGrab's Downloads tab.  Initially, the Format selection list is
grayed-out.  It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI.
Then, you can select the format.  There are three format choices that
are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original.  (There are two choices
for "original": video and audio-only.)


Isn't it reprehensible to steal videos or audios


If that were true, why would these things be sent to YouTube in the 
first place?
Why youtube did not make available for any video .. a "Download Button" 
? :-)

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Re: Plugin for Seamonkey

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David E. Ross wrote on 10-06-20 05:32:

On 6/9/2020 7:34 PM, Andy K wrote:

Is there a plugin for Seamonkey that can download the audio portion of videos 
on YouTube?

I am using Ubuntu_Mate 18.04

Thanks,
 Andy


Instead of a plugin, consider ClipGrab at .  If
you scroll down that Web page a little more than half way, you will find
a version for Ubuntu on the right side.

I use Windows.  I download the Windows version and then disable my
Internet connection before installing ClipGrab.  That way, I block the
installation of third-party nagware, which some consider to be malware.
I do not know if that installation approach is necessary for Ubuntu.

Once ClipGrab is installed, you start the playing of a YouTube
performance.  Copy the URI and paste it into the top input area on
ClipGrab's Downloads tab.  Initially, the Format selection list is
grayed-out.  It becomes available after ClipGrab has analyzed the URI.
Then, you can select the format.  There are three format choices that
are audio-only: MP3, OGG Vorbis, and original.  (There are two choices
for "original": video and audio-only.)


Isn't it reprehensible to steal videos or audios
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

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Paul Bergsagel wrote on 07-06-20 01:36:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/5/20 8:47 AM, meagain wrote:

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."
Works for me.  I do not have Firefox compatibility enabled. 
Youtube.com works and there is no warning message about the browser I 
am using.


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


studio.youtube.com does not seem to know about SeaMonkey, but works if 
you click on the button below.


I am using SeaMonkey 2.53.4 beta 1 pre   build by W9Gs.

The issue seems to me is that many web page designers do not know 
about SeaMonkey and reject the browser since it is an unknown 
browser.  If the sniffer would  look for the browser engine (i.e. 
gecko) instead of the browser's name (i.e. SeaMonkey) we would run 
into fewer compatibility issues.
BUT the webmaster did not know about gecko or other engine, they just 
look at the brower name 

And certainly never read this newsgroup mozilla.support.seamonkey.
You are the voice crying in the desert
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

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meagain wrote on 06-06-20 20:42:

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest 
version of

one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and 
use/install) it?



about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in 
your

profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile 
Folder


click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to 
Not shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox 
compatibility.





Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?

My user.js is here on this directory:
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default

Example:

C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

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Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[Ray_Net]

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube 
Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of 
these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

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Re: Home Depot videos don't play

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David E. Ross wrote on 26-05-20 22:56:

On 5/26/2020 12:40 PM, EE wrote:

flyguy wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 5/25/2020 1:36 PM:

flyguy wrote:

Windows 10, SM 2.49.4

The videos on this Home Depot page do not play for me, but they do
play if I use Chrome. What's wrong?

  > What's wrong?

For starters: 2.49.4. Try with 2.53.2.

Oops. Forgot to show the link:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RYOBI-ONE-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Electric-Cordless-String-Trimmer-and-Edger-1-3-Ah-Battery-and-Charger-Included-P2030/203645932


Can you try it with 2.49.4 and 2.53.2? I'm concerned it might be a
problem with SM setup and not the version.

I do not see anything that looks like a video on that page.  I see only
images and text.


The images along the left edge have right-pointing triangles, which
indicate selecting them launches videos.

Don't work for me, perhzps it's a Flash (I have not installed Adobe 
Flash Player ans I will not do it - because, it's a DEAD product)

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Re: Honey

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Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 24-05-20 10:53:

Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 23-05-20 16:24:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/23/20 9:18 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Is there a way to install Honey in the SeaMonkey browser?  The 
Honey site says it can be used with Firefox.


This? <https://www.joinhoney.com/features/honeygold>

What happens when you click the "Add Honey-Its Free" button?

Probably will work with a UA spoof



Doubt it will work. Probably a web extention interceptiong traffic. 
Nothing free here. You pay with you privacy and data.


FRG
I clicked on the link and I see a short text in big characters - then 
disappearing to show a blank page.

this blank page source contains 2176 lines.


I did the same and the temporary text was indicating that Honey helps 
people find money-saving supermarket coupons, or something similar.  
The text was only there for around a second.
US supermarket coupons are not valid in Vogon territories so I don't 
need to look further.


I tried again after removing cookies and the temporary text did not 
appear anymore 

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Re: Honey

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 23-05-20 16:24:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/23/20 9:18 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:
Is there a way to install Honey in the SeaMonkey browser?  The Honey 
site says it can be used with Firefox.


This? 

What happens when you click the "Add Honey-Its Free" button?

Probably will work with a UA spoof



Doubt it will work. Probably a web extention interceptiong traffic. 
Nothing free here. You pay with you privacy and data.


FRG
I clicked on the link and I see a short text in big characters - then 
disappearing to show a blank page.

this blank page source contains 2176 lines.
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Re: To go from SM 2.49.1 to SM 2.57 ?

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 02-05-20 23:33:



Ray_Net wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 21-04-20 10:24:

Ray_Net wrote:

So the questions is:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a 
hard block in to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first.



So the best way is :
- pass from 2.49.1 to 2.53.3 first then


yes for now.


- pass from 2.53.3 to 2.57


yes for later. 2.57 is useless other than for testing right now. We 
don't have an ETA.


FRG
Thank you. So I will just store the SM installer .exe of  2.53.3 and not 
use it until the release of the 2.57.


At that time, having stored 2.53.3 and 2.57 I will:

- uninstall 2.49.1
- install 2.53.3 and run  just upgrade mu profile.
- uninstall immediately 2.53.3
- install 2.57 ... and use it 
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To go from SM 2.49.1 to SM 2.57 ?

[Ray_Net]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 21-04-20 10:24:

Ray_Net wrote:

So the questions is:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
No. NSS is no longer backwoard compatible. We need to soon put a hard 
block in to go thru 2.53.1 to .3 first.



So the best way is :
- pass from 2.49.1 to 2.53.3 first then
- pass from 2.53.3 to 2.57

Is that correct ?

( I don't know what "NSS" is )
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Ray_Net wrote on 21-04-20 08:39:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :
<https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases#>


2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. 
Some popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer 
shown because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can 
usually get them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is 
a planned feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?

I have not undersatnd all the answers  It seems very complicated ...
I think that I should abandon SM 
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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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NFN Smith wrote on 20-04-20 17:34:

Ray_Net wrote:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?



For FireBug and true-full-screen-  if you don't know why you need 
them, chances are pretty good that you don't need them.


When I installed it  it was useful because full-screen was not 
working ...

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Re: Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 19-04-20 13:29:

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Ray_Net a tapoté le 19/04/2020 10:50:

I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?


I don't use it.


Firebug has been replaced with the internal developer tools. They 
still have a few rough edges and bugs but are working. Ok replacement 
together with DOMi.



- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?


I use BlueHell Firewall 2.6.4 and uBlock origin 1.16.4.20 :
<https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases#>


2.91 is available but not recommended. I had nothing but problems 
(temporary hangs and memory bloat) after 2.82 even with 2.49.x so 
switched to uBlock which is still somehwat maintained.



- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed
anymore ?


I don't think this is needed anymore.

FRG


Thank you for answering, but I think that I must stay with my 2.49.1 
until 2.57

Because: (the minimum that I want)
The french dictionary is a web extension
The uBlock origin (replacement of AdBlock-Plus is a web extension

AND in the 2.53.1 release notes I read:

Dictionaries in WebExtension formats do *not* work, even though they 
appear to install correctly.


SeaMonkey does not currently support the WebExtensions add-on api. Some 
popular add-ons like NoScript and uBlock Origin are no longer shown 
because of this on the SeaMonkey add-ons website. You can usually get 
them from the manufacturers site. WebExtensions support is a planned 
feature for 2.57.



So the questions are:
- Could I pass from 2.49.1 to 2.57 in one step ?
- What is approximately the release date of the 2.57 version ?
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Help me upgrading to 2.53.1

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I want to go from SM 2.49.1 to 2.53.1 ...
But I see that:
- FireBug is not available anymore. so what ?
- AdBlock-Plus is not available anymore. so what ?
- What about this addon "true-full-screen-in-seamonkey" not needed 
anymore ?

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Re: I suppose I'm not the first to ask this

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EE wrote on 17-04-20 21:57:

Ray_Net wrote:

DoctorBill wrote on 16-04-20 18:25:
How, in God's name, can I TURN OFF those 푰풅풊풐풕풊풄 Google 
Animations ! ?


DoctorBill


You just need to go to https://www.google.cn/  if you want to search 
something using google search engine.


Why Chinese Google?


This is the one WITHOUT the idiotic animation he want :-)
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Re: I suppose I'm not the first to ask this

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DoctorBill wrote on 16-04-20 18:25:
How, in God's name, can I TURN OFF those 푰풅풊풐풕풊풄 Google 
Animations ! ?


DoctorBill


You just need to go to https://www.google.cn/  if you want to search 
something using google search engine.

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Re: Do you use the default "Advertise Firefox compatiblity" option in your SeaMonkey?

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Ant wrote on 13-04-20 05:57:
I have to disable it for YouTube.com so I can rate, get faster web 
site speeds, etc. However, I lose its chat feature.


What about the rest of you? Thank you for reading and hopefully 
answering. :)

I have this option "Advertise Firefox compatiblity" set.
and also for some domains this option in about:config: per example:
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0

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Re: Useragent question - in about:config

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Daniel wrote on 13-04-20 10:22:

Geoff Welsh wrote on 13/04/2020 8:41 AM:

closing out my own question, thanks to some google searches;

the new preference to add in about:config to spoof at will is;

general.useragent.override

view message source on this post and it /should/ say Firefox 74

you can put Chrome or webkit or whatever you want.  :-)

Yeap, I see your User Agent as Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 
10.13; rv:61.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/74.0


but did you notice the pref you listed was 
"general.useragent.override" not the 
"general.useragent.override.seamonkey" that you quoted first time around.


As I understand it, now that you have it set to 
"general.useragent.override", ever site you visit will think you are 
using FF V78, not SM.


As an example, I have added some new entries where I changed the string 
accordingly with host I reach;
general.useragent.override.google.com -- string set to: Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

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jcteyssi...@gmail.com wrote on 12-04-20 10:32:

My existing webappsstore.sqlite file was 35 MB. After deleting it, it was 
recreated at only 32 KB.

Now the data manager works again -- the way it did many years ago!

I have a look to this file in my profile: it is actually 58 MB; located on a 
network drive ans all seems working well. So size should be not the only 
problem, your wife profile file was probably corrupted.
By the way, i suspect antivirus and/or firewall to analyze it intensively: this 
can lead ti previous problem (45 second delay)
I notice that from time to time (say once a week) Seamonkey (since win 10, 
never occur with win 7) takes more than 5 minutes to open... (running in 
application manager but no window appear, have to wait. In large majority of 
time, it open relatively quickly for a profile located on network drive (about 
4 or 5 seconds)

Jean-Charles



What happens if we remove this file:

webappsstore.sqlite ?

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Is my method of passing my current SM onto my new pc ?

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Hello,
This is what i will do - tell me if i do something wrrong or if I miss 
something ?

--
Before copying the Seamonkey directory .. must I remove all plugins, 
extentions,language pack, dictionaary ???

--
My current pc (windows10) is nearly dead - I have ordered a new one 
which I think will be under windows10 also.


I am using installed SM 2.49.1 and I have all software and plugin 
intallation files,etc .. to install 2.49.1 from scratch.


So to pass from the old pc to the new one...

With the old pc I will copy the
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\ directory somewhere.
when Seeamonky is completely out of the mix.

"tit_p" is my user name of my old pc.
"i-dont-know-now" will be my user name of my new pc.

then I will install the same SM version onto my new pc.
without installing french dictionary, adblockPlus, french language pack 
...etc
When the install is finished without personnalization ... I will stop SM 
then reboot the pc (so I am sure that no part od SM is running).


Then I will
1. delete the "Seamonkey" directory under 
C:\Users\i-dont-know-now\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ location of my new pc.
2. copy the "Seamonkey" directory under 
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ location of my old pc.(copied 
before)
into the "Seamonkey" directory under 
C:\Users\i-dont-know-now\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\ location of my new pc.


then start SM on my new pc, and all should be ok ? YES ? NO ?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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Ant wrote on 28-02-20 01:56:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ still doesn't show this version?




Hehe. I think you got a bit too excited. :-)
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Could we remove some files in the SM profile ?

[Ray_Net]

Hello,
When we unsubscribe all corresponding files are removed except the .dat 
file - Could we remove this one ?
When we delete a news-server, there are still this-server.msf and 
this-server.rc files present in the news directory - could we remove 
thoses files ?

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

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Richard Alan wrote on 15-02-20 18:22:

Ray_Net wrote:


Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:

I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?

Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page
...

It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import
your modified html file.

AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color
attribute ?

When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra
info about them to be in red.

Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify
the foreground color ?

Only if it is just to be printed. You won't be able to re-import the file
into the browser as Word will add so much word-processing code to the file
it will be rendered useless for the browser.

YES - Just What Thomas siad: to appear and be PRINTED in red.
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

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Thomas Pamin wrote on 15-02-20 11:33:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import 
your modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color 
attribute ?


When I print the whole list, I'd like some bookmark titles and extra 
info about them to be in red.


Perhaps copy/paste the html file into WORD then select text and modify 
the foreground color ?

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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

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Ray_Net wrote on 12-02-20 23:13:

Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
It's a one-way action  colors will not be present if you import your 
modified html file.


AnyWay, what part of bookmarks did you want to have a red-color attribute ?
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Re: Bookmarks in Color?

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Tom Pamin wrote on 11-02-20 21:35:
I would like some of my bookmarks, and passwords for bookmarks, to 
appear and be printed in red. Any way to do this?


Export your bookmarks into bookmark.html then modify this web page ...
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Re: OT: Java!! Was: Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.1b1 is Released!

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Daniel wrote on 24-01-20 09:38:

Ant wrote on 24/01/2020 5:42 PM:



V2.49.5 is the stable version right now. No Flash? I don't use any 
web sites that use Shockave and Silverlight these days. That includes 
Java. :O


I still get offered updates to my Java every couple of days!!

Click on the "Get update now" Button  and, a couple of minutes 
later, I get an "Update failed" notification.


;-(




I have completely removed java 
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Re: Seamonkey 2.49.5 - Home button disappeared

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Marisa Ciceran wrote on 19-01-20 18:43:

Ray_Net wrote:

Marisa Ciceran wrote on 18-01-20 20:29:

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Paul,

Of course I did, multiple times and after multiple reboots. :-(

Marisa

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Marisa Ciceran:


Paul,

I did that a number of times and it does not bring the Home 
button back.

Any other ideas?

Marisa, please do not top post. Replies belong under the quoted text.

To your question. Interesting enough that I tried to replicate the
problem. With success. :) I opened the Customize menu by right 
clicking

with the mouse on the Menu Bar. Then I dragged the Home button in the
new window. Result: No Home button in the Bookmarks Toolbar anymore.

So, did you look in the Customize menu for the Home button?

Hartmut
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What I forgot to say is that there is no "Home" button in the 
Customize menu, either. :/




If the "Home" button is not in the "Customise" window, may signify 
that the "Home" button is somewhere in a "bar", perhaps not visible, 
becaus of the large number of other buttons on this "bar".

What I can say is that in my about:config page I have:
pref.browser.homepage.disable_button.current_group
pref.browser.homepage.disable_button.default_page
both FALSE.
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Ray,

You hit the nail on the head. It was in another bar, not visible. 
Before I got your answer, I tinkered with "Customize" until it 
reappeared (but don't ask me how, it was in the middle of the night). 
I was then able to move it back to the Bookmarks bar.


Your added notes on about.config are helpful, too.

Thank you.

Marisa

Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad the problem is solved
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Re: Seamonkey 2.49.5 - Home button disappeared

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Marisa Ciceran wrote on 18-01-20 20:29:

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

Paul,

Of course I did, multiple times and after multiple reboots. :-(

Marisa

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Marisa Ciceran:


Paul,

I did that a number of times and it does not bring the Home button 
back.

Any other ideas?

Marisa, please do not top post. Replies belong under the quoted text.

To your question. Interesting enough that I tried to replicate the
problem. With success. :) I opened the Customize menu by right clicking
with the mouse on the Menu Bar. Then I dragged the Home button in the
new window. Result: No Home button in the Bookmarks Toolbar anymore.

So, did you look in the Customize menu for the Home button?

Hartmut
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What I forgot to say is that there is no "Home" button in the 
Customize menu, either. :/




If the "Home" button is not in the "Customise" window, may signify that 
the "Home" button is somewhere in a "bar", perhaps not visible, becaus 
of the large number of other buttons on this "bar".

What I can say is that in my about:config page I have:
pref.browser.homepage.disable_button.current_group
pref.browser.homepage.disable_button.default_page
both FALSE.
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Re: Highly Confusing "Print To File" - Where does it go ?

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DoctorBill wrote on 11-01-20 03:29:

DoctorBill wrote:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

DoctorBill:

Hartmut Figge wrote:

Daniel:

Hartmut Figge wrote on 11/01/20 11:37:



Preference Name
   print.print_to_filename
Value
   /home/hafi/mozilla.pdf

Hartmut

Are you suggesting, Hartmut, that then, if DocBill were to 
Double-click
on that value (/home/hafi/mozilla.pdf in your case), DocBill 
should be

able to send the file wherever he wanted  say
C:\DocBill\Documents\TestResults.pdf ??


No. The goal was to determine filename and path of the file SM 
would be

printing to. Seeing the reply of Bill I have checked in in a new
profile. The pref is indeed not there.

It is created the first time the print dialog is opened.


A Ha !  Question - can I insert (edit) into the Config file what you
said should be there ?

i.e.  print_to_filename   blah   blah  blah   etc  in that 
Print_printer

blah blah area ?

Would that "program" into SM's config what I need ?


The only thing you need to do is to click on File > Print. :) that 
opens
the print dialog, creates the pref and allows you to choose filename 
and

path. Look at the replies of Walt.

I'm assuming here that in Win the print dialog is similar to Linux.

Hartmut


.
NO...it does not do that.  That is why I asked about it.
I described what it does when I posted this.
Nun Salva posted what I see.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/dlgbox/images/printdialogboxxp.png 





My Bad ! Sorry !  It doesn't even look that good !
I did a screensave and put together what I see.
https://i.postimg.cc/W4k58sw3/Save-to-File-Problem.jpg
Hope this clears it up somewhat


This is a Windows issue, not an SM issue.
"Print to file" option/method is very old and often used in the years 
1980's

First you select the printer AND AFTER you click on "print to file".
This is just to say: I want to convert my data to commands to sent to my 
"In your example to "Brother HL-2230 series""
BUT instead of sending those converted data to your printer, you just 
write those converted data RAW to a binary file.
the only thing you can do with this file is something like in a dos-box: 
copy (Name of file.prn) /b lpt1
with your "Brother HL-2230 series" printer connected to the PRT port 
(lpt1) of your computer.
If you connect another printer, per example "hp psc 1310 series (Copy 
1)" you will just print à page with full of garbage :-)


More infos; here:



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Re: UA String Updates

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NFN Smith wrote on 04-12-19 23:14:

Ray_Net wrote:

NFN Smith wrote on 04-12-19 00:31:





It's definitely Google's problem.  Showing a stock Firefox UA gets 
around the problem. For some reason, Google doesn't like Seamonkey.


My U.A.String is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

but in my pref.js I have this line:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

And all goes well .


Google has some strange dislike for seeing a Firefox UA string that 
also has "Seamonkey" in it.  I don't know why.  I haven't checked to 
see if that's an issue with other Mozilla forks, such as PaleMoon or 
WaterFox.



OK, so you will tell me that "SeaMonkey" is not in the string ... OK, 
but instead of going to google.com, I go to google.be all goes well 
also - and in that case "SeaMonkey" is in the string, because rhere 
is no override.


When you go the route of prefs, you have to do the spoof on a 
site-by-site basis.  Thus, if you are normally searching at google.be, 
then you need a similar entry for general.useragent.override.google.be .




As I said, this is a test - I don't have a similar entry so, my ua 
string is with seamonkey inside.

anyway, I don't know why it works on my pc and not on other pc's.
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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

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Hello,
You may go to that page <https://metager.org/kontakt> and tell them:
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When I go to that page
<https://metager.org/meta/settings?fokus=web=https%3A%2F%2Fmetager.org%2Fmeta%2Fmeta.ger3%3Feingabe%3Dants%26focus%3Dweb%26submit-query%3D>
or with a shortest url <https://tinyurl.com/txczab6>
, it speak about only 2 search engines; Scopia and Bing

Is it possible to add per example: Google, DuckDuckGo, Yahoo, etc. ?
--

Ant wrote on 04-12-19 21:26:
Thanks. Hmm, 
https://metager.org/meta/settings?fokus=web=https%3A%2F%2Fmetager.org%2Fmeta%2Fmeta.ger3%3Feingabe%3Dants%26focus%3Dweb%26submit-query%3D 
only shows Scopia and Bing in used search engines. How do I add others 
like Google, Duck Duck Go, etc.?


On 12/4/2019 12:01 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
...
I think that at that place there is only ONE default - SO, if you 
need multiple search engine, it would be interesting to put there: 
not DuckDuckGo, nor Google, nor yahoo, but https://metager.org/ in 
english or https://metager.de/ in german.

I have seen that when on the page
"Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - "Internet Search" - "Manage 
Search engines" options
you may click on "Manage Search Engines" then click on "Get more 
search engines" thsi will bring you that page:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/search/?atype=4?atype=4
where you can accept the installation of the : "MetaGer - Metasuche 
(Die Metasuche über deutschsprachige Suchmaschinen)" by clicking on 
"Add to Seamonkey"

then,after installation, you may go to :
"Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - "Internet Search" - "Manage 
Search engines" options
and select this newly installed "search engine" and click on "Move 
Up" until ti is located above all the others.


So now, you can click on it's magnifying glass included in the 
"Search" button .. the search will be done thru ttps://metahger.de/  
(I don't know how to change to https://metager.org/ (in english)

and the search will be done using multiple search engines.

NOTE: I have seen on the metager english page <https://metager.org/> 
a link labelled  "Add MetaGer-Plugin" - I don't know if that is 
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Re: UA String Updates

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NFN Smith wrote on 04-12-19 00:31:

Edward wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

There's only a couple of sites that I regularly see that don't like 
the UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.5, especially Google's home page.  
Thus, rather than doing global spoofing, I went to prefs:js and set 
general.useragent.override.google.com to show a standard Firefox 
68.0 UA, while still showing the standard Seamonkey UA (including in 
the mail client) to the rest of the world.


I thought it was a bug in SM causing the Google home page to behave 
as it is, however was told it's the User Agent causing it.


It's definitely Google's problem.  Showing a stock Firefox UA gets 
around the problem. For some reason, Google doesn't like Seamonkey.


My U.A.String is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; 
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

but in my pref.js I have this line:
user_pref("general.useragent.override.google.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/67.0");

And all goes well .
OK, so you will tell me that "SeaMonkey" is not in the string ... OK, 
but instead of going to google.com, I go to google.be all goes well also 
- and in that case "SeaMonkey" is in the string, because rhere is no 
override.

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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

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Ant wrote on 04-12-19 03:58:

On 12/3/2019 2:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 03-12-19 09:55:

On 12/2/2019 9:49 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ant:


Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Don't know if I understand what you want. Perhaps. Well, there is 
MetaGer.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer


No. In SM's URL form box, you can enter keywords and press its 
magnifying glass search icon for whatever search engine SM is set 
(e.g., Google). I'd like to have it search more than one search 
engines at the same time like in multiple tabs.
When I click on it's magnifying glass included in the "Search" button 
.. the search is done thru DuckDuckGo.
Perhaps you speak about the: "Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - 
"Internet Search" - "Manage Search engines" options


Yes, those parts. Is there a way to search with multiple search 
engines at once like Google and DuckDuckGo?
I think that at that place there is only ONE default - SO, if you need 
multiple search engine, it would be interesting to put there: not 
DuckDuckGo, nor Google, nor yahoo, but https://metager.org/ in english 
or https://metager.de/ in german.

I have seen that when on the page
"Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - "Internet Search" - "Manage Search 
engines" options
you may click on "Manage Search Engines" then click on "Get more search 
engines" thsi will bring you that page:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/search/?atype=4?atype=4
where you can accept the installation of the : "MetaGer - Metasuche (Die 
Metasuche über deutschsprachige Suchmaschinen)" by clicking on "Add to 
Seamonkey"

then,after installation, you may go to :
"Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - "Internet Search" - "Manage Search 
engines" options
and select this newly installed "search engine" and click on "Move Up" 
until ti is located above all the others.


So now, you can click on it's magnifying glass included in the "Search" 
button .. the search will be done thru ttps://metahger.de/  (I don't 
know how to change to https://metager.org/ (in english)

and the search will be done using multiple search engines.

NOTE: I have seen on the metager english page <https://metager.org/> a 
link labelled  "Add MetaGer-Plugin" - I don't know if that is better.

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