Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

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If upgrades are disabled so are announcements, and they did tell you 
about it with the first post in this thread.


That is the explanation.  I did not check the newsgroup until the 
crashes started.

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google time stamps

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When I ask SeaMonkey to go to  google.com I see a time stamp appended:
https://www.google.com/#spf=1615495862979

Other browsers do not display it.

Anyone have a definitive explanation?

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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

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Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey wrote:

On 1/25/2021 12:36 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

 I cannot use SM at Chase.


Chase works for me with:
general.useragent.override.chase.com:  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; 
Win64; x64; rv:81.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/81.0


Every few months I have to update the "rv" and "Firefox" levels.


I pasted that into user.js, and Chase seems to work.

If I swap chase for some other bank's domain should that one stop 
complaining about unsupported?


TY
Ray



This site will tell you about your browser:
https://www.whatismybrowser.com/

It tells me >  Firefox 60 on Windows 10

✗ Your web browser is out of date
Out of date web browsers can have security problems and may cause websites to 
not work properly.
You have version 60, why not upgrade to 86?



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Re: Export saved password SM2.53.6

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Hello,
How do you export password from SM,

Wich password manager to use with SM to sync password?

Thanks



Offhand I doubt you can do that, in part because the passwords are 
encrypted inside SM.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

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Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/






Today SeaMonkey started crashing again and again.  So I check for the 
new version! Why didn't SeaMonkey tell me about that?

But CONGRATULATIONS on the new release.
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Re: Site that doesn't work since upgrading to 2.53.5.1

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On 14/01/2021 22:01, no...@nonospam.org wrote:


...
I installed SM v2.53.5.1 on this laptop and confirmed that the problem 
with https://pskreporter.info/pskmap.html was present. I then 
uninstalled that version of SM and installed v2.49.4. The problem was 
still present! I repeated this several times, going back as far as 
v2.30, and all of them had the same problem with this site.


Your observation makes it all the more relevant to try older Firefox 
versions with the site. I think I tried SM 5.3.5.1 spoofing the user 
agent as Firefox without success, which makes it likely that some site 
JS is testing for a feature that isn't present in SM. As it works with 
the latest ESR, one could try each previous ESR until it doesn't, and 
that might offer a good hint as to what's missing with SM.


I am extremely embarrassed to have made this error in diagnosing the 
situation and I apologize to everyone who has spent time looking into it.

 > ...

Very generously put, but who could cast the first stone?

/df



The site passes the W3C Validator, which always makes me happy :-)
WAG: Could the site be oriented to touch screen use?
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mozilla-releases-security-updates

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https://us-cert.cisa.gov/ncas/current-activity/2020/12/16/mozilla-releases-security-updates-firefox-firefox-esr-and

How to integrate these updates into SeaMonkey?
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Re: Unable to work with by bank now with SM

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Hello,

Going to: 
https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/banque-par-vous-meme/internet-mobile/index.aspx 



shows me a header page with a "Se connecter" red-button permitting me to 
be connected to my bank.


This is true with Chrome and Firefox.

With SM the "header page with that login button" is simply missing.


https://www.belfius.be/retail/fr/becoming-a-customer-360-coholder/index.aspx

seems to show the red button, albeit in French, for my SM 2.53.5.1 on 
Win 10.

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junk folder

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The "Junk" folder does not populate until I click on it.  Why would any 
folder do that?

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Re: Chase now blocking SeaMonkey 2.53.4 with default UA

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Ant wrote:

On 10/19/2020 2:51 PM, NFN Smith wrote:

Ant wrote:
Dave, others and I ran into this back in the end of September 2020 
in "Cannot Access Verizon.com LogIn OR Chase.com SM 2.53.4 W10 Pro" 
newsgroup thread in this newsgroup. More and more web sites are 
annoyingly doing this. :(


Yep.  I find financial institutions in general to have this issue, 
and Chase seems to be the most aggressive.


Yeah, I'm seeing more non-financial ones too like 
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/ that takes me to 
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/unsupported-browser?err=custom-elements,shadow-dom 
(at least, it still supports Firefox). I had a specific thread about 
this issue in my 9/2/2020 9:38 PM PDT newsgroup post titled 
"RottenTomatoes.com rejects SeaMonkey even with fake UAs."


I remember being a part of that discussion.  It looks like that site's 
scripting is querying something deeper in the browser than the UA.





I went as far as the login screen, and there's the usual drivel about 
security issues.  Earlier today, I was reading the meeting notes from 
Seamonkey devs, and they're pretty current on getting updates 
backported.


It really comes down to the people at Chase don't want to be bothered 
with anything other than Chrome, current versions of Firefox, Safari, 
and maybe Edge.


Yep. This had been around when Internet Explorer (IE) was winning the 
web browser war before Chrome joined the fight. Now, IE is way down 
like Firefox and SeaMonkey with Chrome being the top. Developers are 
lazy, don't want to work more, and don't care. Argh. :(


Devs may be lazy, but with financial institutions, it's actually the 
problem of the people who do support.  Consider the following scenarios:


Me: I'm having problems getting logged into my Chase account from the web.
Chase: What browser are you using?
Me: Firefox 73 on Windows
Chase: Go to the hamburger menu, select Options, and then click on [x 
and y]


- or -


Me: I'm having problems getting logged into my Chase account from the web.
Chase: What browser are you using?
Me: Mozilla Seamonkey on Windows
Chase: We don't support Seamonkey [dialtone]

It's not just Seamonkey they're doing this to. I'm sure that the same 
applies to things like PaleMoon and Waterfox.  I haven't heard of it 
applying to Chrome derivatives such as Iron, Epic or Opera, but it may 
be that their UA is close enough to stock Chrome to not disrupt 
interaction. However, if you have problems and talk to tech support, 
it's a good guess that saying something that's not "Chrome" will give 
you the same figurative dialtone.


I think it comes down to the institution wanting to minimize operator 
time spent on customer service, and if they can't tell you what to do 
with what they have on their own desks, they're not going to take the 
time to try to figure it out. It would not surprise me that Chase has a 
corporate standard of clearing customer support calls in less than 5 
minutes, and preferably faster, if they can.  And once a call goes over 
5 minutes, there's real heat on the operators to get the call wrapped 
within seconds.  And I'll bet there's an internal metric that measures 
that very closely.


They're in too big of a hurry to end the call that they have any 
patience or willingness to facilitate anything outside of the 
mainstream, as they define it.




For what it's worth, I was just at Constant Contact, and they 
explicitly complained about Seamonkey, but didn't prevent me from 
logging in.


Hmm, we all should complain. Is there a specific contact method you 
used? Did they answer back yet?


No direct interaction, just a boilerplate that they pop up after I log in:


Constant Contact does not officially support SeaMonkey.

You may close this message and continue to use Constant Contact with 
SeaMonkey,

but we cannot guarantee that it will work.

In order to provide you with the fastest, most secure experience,
we encourage you to switch to one of our officially supported browsers.



Although I can get the idea that a UA that identifies itself as Firefox 
60 is something they may consider "insecure" if they're not familiar 
with Seamonkey, I have yet to see a site (rottontomatoes 
notwithstanding) that makes this kind of complaint that doesn't perform 
the way that I want it to if spoof a UA.  Maybe it's the various 
tracking and ad delivery mechanisms that don't work, but I'm aggressive 
enough with NoScript that those generally don't run anyway.  Yes, I 
often have to manually enable the site's own scripting, and things like 
googleapis and gstatic (although not google-analytics) and various CDN 
and anti-DoS mirrors to get the essential features, but that's still on 
me and not the site.


If I really can't wrestle my Seamonkey configs to do what I want, I may 
simply use Firefox with minimal tweaking for one transaction.


Smith





OK!  How do I spoof Chrome?


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Junk Folder

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I've noticed that the "Junk" folder does not populate until I click on 
it.  Why would any folder do that?

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Re: How to Set SeaMonkey as default mail client in Windwso 10?

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I had to reset my Windows 10 installation. That was a bad idea. It 
essentially deleted all of my programs. I'm adding back the ones I need 
but I can't seem to get SeaMonkey set as the Default Mail program so 
Libre Office and Foxit PDF reader (and probably other applications) 
can't sent mail.


I gone into the Default applications and Windows offers SeaMonkey as one 
of the mail options so I set it. It doesn't work. I suspect I need to do 
something more.


Can anyone tell me how to do this?



Google says, Change default programs in Windows 10

On the Start menu, select Settings > Apps > Default apps.
Select which default you want to set, and then choose the app.

You may want your . pdf files, or email, or music to automatically 
 open using an app other than the one provided by M$.

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Re: Address book handling: Collected Addresses

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I happen to be running Seamonkey 2.53.2, but I'm realizing that I've 
been seeing this for some time -- certainly in various releases of 2.49, 
and possibly further back than that.


I make periodic visits to my Collected Addresses address book, and 
generally move the addresses I want to keep permanently into other 
address books, and discard most of the rest.


Usually, I don't pay attention to handling until much later when I 
repeat the exercise (sometimes months apart), but more than once, I've 
noticed addresses in Collected Addresses with a deja vu feeling of "I 
thought I had moved or deleted that address a long time ago".


What's happening is that once I move or delete addresses, and Seamonkey 
restarts, a re-visit to Collected Addresses shows those addresses still 
there, although for moved addresses, they are being correctly copied to 
other folders.


As far as I can tell, I'm only seeing this on the Collected Addresses 
folder, although I don't frequently delete addresses from other folders.


If I was seeing this kind of effect on a mail folder, I would normally 
re-index the folder, but I'm not aware of a similar capacity for doing 
that with an address book.



Any idea of how to get around this problem?

Smith


I have the same question.  Also, How can I remove duplicate addresses?

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Re: More and more sites do not accept Seamonkey

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I am finding more and more sites not accepting Seamonkey.

The latest is Rotten Tomatoes.

I do not understand as Seamonkey is almost identical to Firefox?

Andy



More and more web companies are reasonably paranoid about SECURITY and 
obsessive about support COSTS. Consequently they must pick and choose 
which browsers they will support. I suggest that outweighs whether one 
browser is similar to another.


We SM fans just have to keep at the web sites to accept OUR fave.
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Re: More and more sites do not accept Seamonkey

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AK wrote:

I am finding more and more sites not accepting Seamonkey.

The latest is Rotten Tomatoes.

I do not understand as Seamonkey is almost identical to Firefox?

Andy



Edit / Preferences / Advanced / HTTP Networking

Change User Agent string setting to 'Identify as Firefox'. See if that 
helps.





I tried that; but the setting that did work was #3: Id as SeaMonkey with 
Firefox compatibility - or words to that effect.

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Re: Good bye SeaMonkey Browser

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EE wrote on 15-08-20 19:21:

Lance Courtland wrote:
It is with much sadness that I must abandon SeaMonkey as a web 
browser. I have been a loyal user since Mosaic in 1993, then Netscape 
Navigator, then SM. However, I have become overwhelmed by the 
quantity and complexity of fixes, tweaks, configs, spoofs, and 
kluges, each constantly needing updating, to get SM to fully function 
on a wide variety of URLs at a rapid speed.


Where once its customizability was a bonus, it is now a burden. SM 
seems to have been brought down by the difference between "you can do 
all this to make it work however you want" and "you have to do all 
this to make it work at all."


I certainly appreciate all the hard work a dwindling number of 
developers have put in to keep SM alive.


I will continue to use the Mail & Newsgroup functions, which I like a 
lot.  I have managed to make email links clicked in SM Email open in 
Chrome, which is now my default.  I have always resisted adopting the 
most current offering from the Macrofirms of the digital world, but 
it has become too burdensome to continue being a browser salmon.


Parting is such sweet sorrow.

Lance


Why use Chrome? 
Because Chrome works with ZOOM ... and a lot of sites have problem with 
SM, per example, You can fill a form but the XMIT button did not work 
using SM.



Zoom works great with SM 2.53.3 for me (no add ons no ext).

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Re: Access Denied - CarMax.com

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Going to carmax.com I get the following error:

Access Denied
You don't have permission to access "http://www.carmax.com/; on this 
server.


Reference #18.2d891ab8.1596029342.1765be0e

I works just fine with Chrome.

What is my solution? Thank you!


Did you try https://www.carmax.com/
?
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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 7:05:25 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:

I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access anything. Cannot 
even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. 
I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want to 
continue my email client in SM.

Try making the SM UA override the same as with the FF that works.
You can make it bank specific if necessary.


Thank you Paul. Apology...I am new here and I don't know how to reply directly 
to
you. So I just clicked on reply all. David gave me a US Bank UA. Didn't work 
but it was Windows NT10. I use Windows 7. Do I need to change it to 7?

The Win 10 one should work ok... if it works at all.
Win 7 is actually NT6.1.

Have you installed any blockers or add-ons?


Yes...Shockwave Flash - disabled
Flash Got
Modify HttP Response
No Script
UBlock Origin
Tiny Java Script Debugger - disabled
The others are enabled but I have disabled all
and enabled all each one at a time also.Didn't seem
to help.



US BANK may have decided to run a much tighter ship:
"U.S. bank giant data breach affects over 100 mln users. WASHINGTON, 
July 29 (Xinhua) -- The fifth-biggest credit card issuer in the U.S. 
Capital One said Monday that the personal information of more than 100 
million customers was compromised during a massive data breach by a 
hacker.Jul 30, 2019"

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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 7:05:25 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 4:51:51 PM UTC-6, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Marion Walther wrote:

I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access anything. Cannot 
even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. 
I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want to 
continue my email client in SM.

Try making the SM UA override the same as with the FF that works.
You can make it bank specific if necessary.


Thank you Paul. Apology...I am new here and I don't know how to reply directly 
to
you. So I just clicked on reply all. David gave me a US Bank UA. Didn't work 
but it was Windows NT10. I use Windows 7. Do I need to change it to 7?

The Win 10 one should work ok... if it works at all.
Win 7 is actually NT6.1.

Have you installed any blockers or add-ons?


Yes...Shockwave Flash - disabled
Flash Got
Modify HttP Response
No Script
UBlock Origin
Tiny Java Script Debugger - disabled
The others are enabled but I have disabled all
and enabled all each one at a time also.Didn't seem
to help.



Install Chrome and call US BANK Technical support: 1 (877) 202-0043
Write down all the information.
Once you get that working you should be able to create a new SM entry 
after deleting all the old SM info on US BANK.

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Re: US BANK HAS STOPPED SUPPORTING MY BROWSER

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I can sign in but my cursor just sits there. I cannot access anything. Cannot 
even log out. How can I resolve that? I have to go to Firefox to do my banking. 
I have used SeaMonkey since NetScape and have my own domain so I want to 
continue my email client in SM.



Edit |  Preferences | Advanced | HTTP Network
Check http 1.1
Check "Identify as SeaMonkey and advertise Firefox compatibility"
assuming you have SM version 2.53.3 or more recent.


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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

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On Sat, 27 Jun 2020 20:22:44 +1000, Daniel 
wrote:


Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows
Update portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be installed.

(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if there
is one, I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday Evening USA
time))

Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can
complete the installation  but time after time after time, the
update fails, so the system reverts to the previously installed system
 until next cold boot!!

Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the
Windows Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things get
fixed up/picked up next Update Tuesday??

Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??


Yes, I am still running Win7, and have no plans to move to Win8, or
downgrade to W10, the demented cartoon edition of windows.
W10 is basically a graphics terminal to the M$ cloud, nothing more.

Speaking strictly for myself, I do not reccomend leaving updates on at
all, or installing them except individually.
M$ consistently adds undocumented contents, or hides the full
description behind a summary, or uses misleading language.

Instead, get the yearly security rollups, then run the anti telemetry
shell scripts so they can't sneak anyting in.

Nearly all security updates for windows itself concern IE, OE, or IIS.
Do not use any of them and your attackable profile is reduced to a
miniscule fraction.

For myself, I run Win7 with a few extras.
Openshell, set as classic as I can make it.
7+ taskbar switcher.
Network activity indicator.
Explorer++, an open source replacement.
I get ~90% of a good GUI back.

I also replace windows search with voidtools everything.
It is faster, more consistent, and supports network searches.
It also recently began supporting content based searches as well.

This is what I do, do what works for you.



https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/accs/maintenance/windows-7-computers-to-be-blocked-january-14-2020

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Re: SM 2.53.3 Access Denied

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Starting with SM 2.53.2 I began getting access denied messages on a few
random websites.

With SM 2.53.3 it has gone from annoyance, to problem.
Places, for instance newegg, and there are many more,  will load the
home screen, then when I go anywhere, it is blank, or I get access
denied messages, it varies.

Yes I have tried in safe mode.
Yes I have tried a clean profile.
Yes I have tried with identify as FF & SM.
Yes I have tried with identify as FF.

Portable version of FF60 works fine.

Anybody else having this problem
Or is this just life having some fun at my expense?




https://www.ag.ndsu.edu/accs/maintenance/windows-7-computers-to-be-blocked-january-14-2020

This explains why some sites and others are blocking Win7.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

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meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.3.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am *still* working on it.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.3/






Windows Defender Smartscreen is disallowing the install. Stopping 
Smartscreen meerly gets "cannot contact smartscreen"!


Set level to warn:
https://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/what-is-smartscreen-and-why-is-it-running-on-my-pc/ 




FRG

That works.  Thank you.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

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 Original Message 


meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.3.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am *still* working on it.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.3/






Windows Defender Smartscreen is disallowing the install. Stopping 
Smartscreen meerly gets "cannot contact smartscreen"!


Set level to warn:
https://www.auslogics.com/en/articles/what-is-smartscreen-and-why-is-it-running-on-my-pc/ 




FRG


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.3 released!

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Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.3.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am *still* working on it.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.3/






Windows Defender Smartscreen is disallowing the install. Stopping 
Smartscreen meerly gets "cannot contact smartscreen"!

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Re: Reset email passwords

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 Original Message 

On 07/07/2020 09:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 07/07/2020 08:40 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I'm using SeaMonkey 2.49.4
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Build identifier: 20180711182954

My email provider is going thru his annual "Update Your Password" 
campaign. I've successfully changed the password on his end.


I can not remember how to reset SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I can go to
   Edit > Preferences > Privacy & Security > Passwords > Password 
Manager

and display the existing password.

How do I change it?  ;{
I know I did it last year but can't remember how.
Please help a septuagenarian who is aging ;}
TIA



I think the way to go is to try and retrieve your emails using the 
old password.

It will fail, and ask you for the new password.
I think it should then ask you if you want to replace the old with 
the new (in Seamonkey).


You can't do it directly in the Password Manager.



That is what I expected to happen.
It *DID NOT*
When I select the account name and then click "Get Msgs" the response 
is:

Sending of username did not succeed. Mail server ** responded:
Invalid format for plain response.


Since the last time I used the account [less than 1 hour earlier 
today], *nothing* has changed on my end.


My connection sees the other end as a Pop Server using Port 110.
and the password being sent insecurely.




110?  Did your Mail provider tell you that the value had changed?
Mine are all Connection Security = SSL/TLS  which maps to Port 995.



I've been on Port 110 for years (decades even ;)
I had updated password on one account and at next login got the reported 
error message.
Immediately before telephoning my provider, I had checked email on a 
secondary account with no problem. While speaking to the tech about the 
1st account, I had her reset the password on the secondary account. 
After I hung up, the secondary account gives the identical error message.


There must be a method to change SeaMonkey's copy of the password.
I *DID DO* it LAST year. Just don't remember how.





Pop3 on port 110 is the older of the two popular protocols used to 
retrieve eMail from remote mail servers. (The newer protocol, imap, the 
Internet message access protocol, uses port 143.)


Many ISP are changing to imap.
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Re: create link on desktop

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On 6/13/2020 12:50 PM, meagain wrote:

SeaMonkey lets you drag a link onto the desktop. But launching the link
now launches Microsoft Edge. I want the link to go back to SeaMonkey -
how to do that?



The following works for SeaMonkey 2.49.5 under Windows 7.  Something
very similar should work for your SeaMonkey 2.53.2 under your Windows
10.  It takes two settings.

First setting:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select
[Browser].

3.  On the Browser pane, select the Set Default Browser button.

4.  On the Preferences window, select the OK button to close the window.

Second setting:

1.  In Windows 10, launch whatever corresponds to the Control Panel.

2.  On the Control Panel window, select Default Programs.

3.  On the Default Programs window, select  "Set program access and
computer defaults".

4.  On the Set Program Access and Computer Defaults, select the radio
button for Custom.

5.  On the Custom pane under "Choose a default web browser", select the
radio button for SeaMonkey and then the OK button.

6.  Close the Default Programs window.



THANK YOU for the step-by-step detailed instructions. It Worked!!

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SeaMonkey lets you drag a link onto the desktop. But launching the link 
now launches Microsoft Edge. I want the link to go back to SeaMonkey - 
how to do that?

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

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It is as if "browsers" and "web masters" are making war with one another 
with measures and counter-measures. HTML5 was supposed to be a truce!

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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

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 Original Message 

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox compatibility.




Is this 'user.js' used by  SM(64) and SM(32) ?
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.




https://studio.youtube.com/  will not function with  Firefox compatibility.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10
Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
  www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please
update your browser."

  studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of
one of these instead."

WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have
to use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?

- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That
works well for me.



What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true

but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.


You have to create it, it is not created by default. Location is in your
profile directory. Easiest way to locate is

Help > Troubleshooting Information > Application Basics > Profile Folder

click Open Folder button.



okayyy,  thanks for the explicit instructions. Much better way to Not 
shoot myself in the foot!  Will let you know results later.


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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

Ray_Net wrote on 06-06-20 00:25:

meagain wrote on 05-06-20 23:49:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an 
unsupported browser or an old browser version that may cause 
YouTube Studio to be slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of 
one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62. That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?


about:config then add an entry like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com
user set
string
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0

Or better add this line in user.js
user_pref("general.useragent.override.youtube.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:67.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0");


I find a about:config   called 
general.useragent.site_specific_overrides;true


but I do not find a file   user.js  -you're over my head.
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Re: What is YouTube doing!?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:

>> I use Intel Core I5 with Win 10

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works

 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
 www.youtube.com    = Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop 
supporting this browser soon. For the best experience please update 
your browser."


 studio.youtube.com    = Fails with "You are using an unsupported 
browser or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be 
slow or unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to 
use a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain


I use a user-agent override that claims to be Firefox 62.  That works 
well for me.




What is a user-agent override and how do I get (and use/install) it?

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What is YouTube doing!?

[meagain]

Using SeaMonkey 2.53.2
Platform: Windows x86
Language: English (US)

With "Firefox Compatibility" Enabled
www.youtube.com = Works

	studio.youtube.com	= Fails with "You are using an unsupported browser 
or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be slow or 
unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


With "Firefox Compatibility" Disabled
	www.youtube.com		= Works BUT Messages, "We’ll stop supporting this 
browser soon. For the best experience please update your browser."


	studio.youtube.com	= Fails with "You are using an unsupported browser 
or an old browser version that may cause YouTube Studio to be slow or 
unreliable. Try the latest version of one of these instead."


WHY?

Will SeaMonkey fans ('SM lovers' didn't sound right) really have to use 
a different User-Agent for each and every web sight?


- meagain
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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Just out of interest, why the 32-Bit version?  You seem to have a 64-Bit 
Windows 10.  I installed the 64-Bit version on two Windows 10 machines 
and neither machine had any complaints, at a guess I'd say that the 
32-Bit version is so rare that WindowsDefender does not have an 
exception for it.


--
spammo ergo sum, viruses courtesy of https://www.nsa.gov/malware/


Thanks for asking: I guess I like to do one step at a time!

Can I in fact install 64-bit without moving profiles or whatnot?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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meagain wrote:

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Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/



Too excited, I backed up 'profiles'; but running 
seamonkey-2.53.1.en-US.win32.installer invoked the wrath of 
WindowsDefender which would not permit me to run it.    What to do?




Checked the exe and it is exactly the same as the one I directly took 
from the build server a week ago. So you probably need to turn off some 
overeager Windows Defender setting.


FRG


I turned off the "property" 'blocked' and it moves on.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/



Too excited, I backed up 'profiles'; but running 
seamonkey-2.53.1.en-US.win32.installer invoked the wrath of 
WindowsDefender which would not permit me to run it.What to do?


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Re: What happens next?

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I do not expect miracles, but I am happy that it continues.
As for marketing, I don't expect the whole world to install SM and sweep 
Thunderbird and Co. off the market.

But it would be nice if a little bit more publicity would be made, for example 
through articles in magazines and corresponding portals.
It would surely be nice if some SM would try it and stick to it if they knew 
that there is continuity and that they don't have to look for a new program 
soon.
I wish you a lot of success and that you find possibilities to continue.

Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)



I too think SM is the best.
But
What IS the market? (even CCleaner has a browser!)
How might SM be monetized?

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Re: Norton complains after seeing 2.53.1.b1

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 Original Message 
Norton pops up a warning that SeaMonkey doesn't have a valid 
certificate or something like that!  What's this about?


digital signature?

I have not seen this "firewall alert" anywhere else. Only happens upon 
launch.


And then it stopped!
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Re: Norton complains after seeing 2.53.1.b1

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 Original Message 
Norton pops up a warning that SeaMonkey doesn't have a valid 
certificate or something like that!  What's this about?


digital signature?

I have not seen this "firewall alert" anywhere else. Only happens upon 
launch.


looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/3prnq6okxfhd8qb/Screenshot%202020-02-13%2016.56.47.png?dl=0
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Re: Norton complains after seeing 2.53.1.b1

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Norton pops up a warning that SeaMonkey doesn't have a valid certificate 
or something like that!  What's this about?


digital signature?

I have not seen this "firewall alert" anywhere else. Only happens upon 
launch.

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Norton complains after seeing 2.53.1.b1

[meagain]

Norton pops up a warning that SeaMonkey doesn't have a valid certificate 
or something like that!  What's this about?

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Re: Santa Tracker Doesn't support your browser

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meagain wrote:
https://santatracker.google.com/?utm_source=en_medium=hpp_campaign=2019-takeoff-hpp 




Why is this? Is it justified? Is it just changing user agent?


I had to allow JS and allow a redirect.



Thank you.  Still learning how many ways I can shoot self in foot.
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Santa Tracker Doesn't support your browser

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https://santatracker.google.com/?utm_source=en_medium=hpp_campaign=2019-takeoff-hpp

Why is this? Is it justified? Is it just changing user agent?
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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

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Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


You must know that google has a keyword  SITE:url.com   search-terms

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Re: A new SeaMonkey web forum!

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Why is this old ant still sick daily and almost all day, but with a 
nasty allergy (leaks, sneezes, and itches)? No cold, flu like from the 
end of August from this stupid old body, etc. :(


Get Well soon Ant!


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Re: 2.49.5

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Anyone know if release of it is happening soon?

Try it.
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Re: Google Earth

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Running win 10 on a Dell 530s desktop.
I have been trying to load GE from a new download. I get the message that "This app 
cannot run on your PC" I have also tried a new version of Google Earth Pro with 
similar results.
The closest I got was GE open with the side bar and the portion that should 
contain an image of the Earth but it is all black, no planet earth. If I enter 
a location it does nothing at all.
Is there a way to get Google Earth or even Google Earth Pro up and running on 
my PC? Thank you.



The google earth is also a standalone program for PC - all versions are 
"pro".


For a PC delete the old one and install the latest version. Access via a 
browser is a separate approach.


If you see all dark try resetting your default settings.

I LOVE GOOGLE EARTH.

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Re: images blurred

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WaltS48:

On 8/12/19 9:46 AM, meagain wrote:



https://www.bostonglobe.com/


Not blurry for me using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

 
That's because of^. :) If you want to see to see the problem, uncheck
'Advertise Firefox compatibility'.

Hartmut



DISabling Firefox compat does fix the problem for me! Thank you.

But but  it used to work!

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Re: images blurred

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On 8/12/19 9:03 AM, meagain wrote:
Today a newspaper site has images blurred when viewed by SeaMonkey 
2.49.4 but not in other browsers. What could cause that?


We don't know without visiting the site.


https://www.bostonglobe.com/

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images blurred

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Today a newspaper site has images blurred when viewed by SeaMonkey 
2.49.4 but not in other browsers. What could cause that?

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Re: Website eats memory

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David E. Ross


"President Donald Trump said on Tuesday [11 December] that
U.S. authorities had 'caught 10 terrorists', ... but four
government sources said there was no recent evidence of terrorism
suspects being caught along the border."  Reuters News

I think Trump is the primary source of the fake news he condemns.


Very much so!
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Re: Seamonkey running but not responding

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On 6/15/2019 1:51 PM, meagain wrote:

I am frequently getting the message

"Seamonkey running but not responding and must be closed before starting
seamonkey."

Why does this happen and can it be stopped?



I get this when SeaMonkey fails to terminate when I tried to terminate
it.  For me, this is a rare but occasional problem.  To resolve it, I
use the Windows Task Manager to terminate either the application or the
process (the result is the same).

If you are getting this frequently, you might be doing something strange
to terminate SeaMonkey.  Is it possible that you are shutting down
Windows without terminating SeaMonkey?  If so, how are you shutting down
Windows?



It happens repeatedly after full restart, close SM, open SM. If I kill 
the complaintant window "running but not responding..." then TaskManager 
does NOT show a part of "seamonkey" running. I cannot see any "running " 
part of SM, so it must be a service that SM started that I'm not letting

finish.

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Seamonkey running but not responding

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I am frequently getting the message

"Seamonkey running but not responding and must be closed before starting 
seamonkey."


Why does this happen and can it be stopped?
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Re: User Agent

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What is the recommended/preferred method to make a website see SeaMonkey 
as Firefox?


Why is the "user agent" still needed?  Seriously, have html 
implementations diverged so much?

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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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Trying SM 2.53 ... Backing up profile... Installing...
And... It cannot work with web.whatsapp.com :(



Advertising "firefox compatibility" seems to change the response.
It's under prefs | advanced | http ...
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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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meagain wrote on 12/06/2019 12:19 AM:

meagain wrote:

On 10/06/19 08:03, ovchinnikov.vas...@gmail.com wrote:


SeaMonkey is failing me in so many ways. e.g.
https://alumsso.mit.edu/oauth/authorize?response_type=token_id=ic=all_uri=https%3A%2F%2Falum.mit.edu%2Fdirectory%2F%23%2F 



Loads here with 2.53 and no warnings. Can't test further.

FRG


I'm game: where to get 2.53?


Go to http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ and download the version of your 
choice  and install.


Report back here what you find.


I find a Win-32 AND a Win-64 - how do I switch over from 32 to 64?

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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 10/06/19 08:03, ovchinnikov.vas...@gmail.com wrote:

... like:
- Github (warning reported at the top of the site)
- web.whatsapp.com (totally unusable)
The last one is the most confusing me.
How Seamonkey introduses itself to web-servers and how can I change 
it any way?

Is it possible to masqarade SM as Firefox?
...


See 

The WhatsApp page is sufficiently idiotic that, as well as masking 
your SeaMonkey-ness behind Firefox, you have uncheck 'Advertise 
Lightning compatibility' in Preferences>Advanced>HTTP Networking; see 
.


If pages (eg GitHub) include a pointless browser compatibility 
warning, you can use user JS or CSS (directly, or through NoScript 
surrogates or Stylish) to hide it.



If the user-agent is the problem, why not just put a user-agent override 
for the specific site into about:config?  For example:
general.useragent.override.get.adobe.com/flashplayer set to Mozilla/5.0 
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:57.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/57.0


Browser sniffing has been reported to be done in several different ways, 
which if still true means that useragent is not a fix-all solution, but 
it does help sometimes.

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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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 Original Message 

On 10/06/19 08:03, ovchinnikov.vas...@gmail.com wrote:

... like:
- Github (warning reported at the top of the site)
- web.whatsapp.com (totally unusable)
The last one is the most confusing me.
How Seamonkey introduses itself to web-servers and how can I change 
it any way?

Is it possible to masqarade SM as Firefox?
...


See 

The WhatsApp page is sufficiently idiotic that, as well as masking 
your SeaMonkey-ness behind Firefox, you have uncheck 'Advertise 
Lightning compatibility' in Preferences>Advanced>HTTP Networking; see 
.


If pages (eg GitHub) include a pointless browser compatibility 
warning, you can use user JS or CSS (directly, or through NoScript 
surrogates or Stylish) to hide it.





SeaMonkey is failing me in so many ways. e.g.
https://alumsso.mit.edu/oauth/authorize?response_type=token_id=ic=all_uri=https%3A%2F%2Falum.mit.edu%2Fdirectory%2F%23%2F 






Grumble: I found the problem in how certificates are handled: I was 
being overly cautious!


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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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 Original Message 



meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

On 10/06/19 08:03, ovchinnikov.vas...@gmail.com wrote:



SeaMonkey is failing me in so many ways. e.g.
https://alumsso.mit.edu/oauth/authorize?response_type=token_id=ic=all_uri=https%3A%2F%2Falum.mit.edu%2Fdirectory%2F%23%2F 



Loads here with 2.53 and no warnings. Can't test further.

FRG


I'm game: where to get 2.53?
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Re: SeaMonkey seems to be more and more unsupported by modern web-applications

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On 10/06/19 08:03, ovchinnikov.vas...@gmail.com wrote:

... like:
- Github (warning reported at the top of the site)
- web.whatsapp.com (totally unusable)
The last one is the most confusing me.
How Seamonkey introduses itself to web-servers and how can I change it 
any way?

Is it possible to masqarade SM as Firefox?
...


See 

The WhatsApp page is sufficiently idiotic that, as well as masking your 
SeaMonkey-ness behind Firefox, you have uncheck 'Advertise Lightning 
compatibility' in Preferences>Advanced>HTTP Networking; see 
.


If pages (eg GitHub) include a pointless browser compatibility warning, 
you can use user JS or CSS (directly, or through NoScript surrogates or 
Stylish) to hide it.





SeaMonkey is failing me in so many ways. e.g.
https://alumsso.mit.edu/oauth/authorize?response_type=token_id=ic=all_uri=https%3A%2F%2Falum.mit.edu%2Fdirectory%2F%23%2F


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youtube studio won't work with SM

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says "out of sync" use another browser!
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Re: no email via comcast

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On 5/18/19 9:45 AM, meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote:
Both pop3.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net no longer work with 
SeaMonkey as of new 'updates" from MS.




Works here. I just downloaded 196 new messages for my Comcast  POP3 
account.


Updated Windows 10 earlier today before testing the Thunderbird 
60.7.0 release candidate.


Do you get an error message?


No error msg.  Outlook works, but not SM.  Infinity web page works, 
but not SM.  This started on monday.  Comcast does not "support" SM 
nor Firefox.


Don't know about supporting it, but as I said I got my 196 new messages 
just fine. Will try again today and see what happens.


Windows doesn't do updates on Monday's AFAIK and I waited a few days 
before updating to the latest patches.


I also use Firefox to access my XFINITY web account without a problem.

Do you use an antivirus program? Try disabling it and see if SeaMonkey 
works.




I used Ccleaner and redid all passwords and we're working again!

Thanks for your encouragement!

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Re: no email via comcast

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 Original Message 

meagain wrote:
Both pop3.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net no longer work with 
SeaMonkey as of new 'updates" from MS.




Works here. I just downloaded 196 new messages for my Comcast  POP3 
account.


Updated Windows 10 earlier today before testing the Thunderbird 60.7.0 
release candidate.


Do you get an error message?


No error msg.  Outlook works, but not SM.  Infinity web page works, but 
not SM.  This started on monday.  Comcast does not "support" SM nor 
Firefox.


SM works for gmail accounts, but not for comcast. Have tried 
mail.comcast.net port 995  and imap.comcast.net port 993 - nada!

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Re: no email via comcast

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meagain wrote:
Both pop3.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net no longer work with 
SeaMonkey as of new 'updates" from MS.




Works here. I just downloaded 196 new messages for my Comcast  POP3 
account.


Updated Windows 10 earlier today before testing the Thunderbird 60.7.0 
release candidate.


Do you get an error message?


No error msg.  Outlook works, but not SM.  Infinity web page works, but 
not SM.  This started on monday.  Comcast does not "support" SM nor Firefox.

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Re: no email via comcast

[meagain]

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Both pop3.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net no longer work with SeaMonkey 
as of new 'updates" from MS.




My settings worked fine for years and years until 5/15. MS has somehow 
defeated SM from using the Win10 email system.


Outlook works fine with imap server on comcast.
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no email via comcast

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Both pop3.comcast.net or mail.comcast.net no longer work with SeaMonkey 
as of new 'updates" from MS.


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YouTube pop up menus

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If I place cursor over a youtube VIDEO and Right-click I get two 
overlapping (!) pop-up-pull-down menus.  The underneath menu is
from youtube and offers handy features like "URL at current Time" while 
the ontop menu is from SeaMonkey.  HAPPILY BOTH WORK *if* I can see any 
of it.


Is there a way to separate these menus?

Other browsers ALTERNATE odd-click and even-click so you can see first 
one and then the other menu.

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startupCache

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It looks like I have a redundant/obsolete "cache" - can I delete the 
older one?



Directory of 
C:\Users\xyz\AppData\Local\C\Users\Rick\AppData\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\qqfjv1rd.default\startupCache


09/03/2017  07:35 AM 2,857,687 startupCache.4.little
   1 File(s)  2,857,687 bytes

 Directory of 
C:\Users\xyz\AppData\Local\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\qqfjv1rd.default\startupCache


03/01/2019  04:56 PM 3,040,374 startupCache.4.little
   1 File(s)  3,040,374 bytes
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passwords in profile

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May I assume that passwords are saved in the user profile?

If I then save a copy of the directories with the profile on a cloud 
service, like Onedrive, could those passwords etc be seen?

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Re: dropbox forum fail with seamonkey

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https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/English/ct-p/English

displays only text with no formatting, et cetera, when using SeaMonkey.

Other browsers seem fine.  I've checked images, script settings but ...


It is now working again!  I think DB changed the code, but it's hard to 
prove!


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Re: dropbox forum fail with seamonkey

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meagain wrote on 24/02/19 07:41:

 Original Message 

meagain wrote on 22/02/19 23:35:

https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/English/ct-p/English

displays only text with no formatting, et cetera, when using SeaMonkey.

Other browsers seem fine.  I've checked images, script settings
but ...

Thanks.


Meagain, just checking both Bill's and Paul's replies and noticed 
their User Agent strings *BOTH* have FireFox along with SeaMonkey.


Maybe if you adjust yours (Edit->Preference->Advanced->HTTP 
Networking->User Agent String, tick the box), re-boot SeaMonkey and

it works, tell the Help Desk at Dropbox that they are sniffing
incorrectly!!

HTH



I have firefox checked in http settings... how do I reset all browser
 settings for a clean slate?


O.K., this time your User-Agent does show Firefox  Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Previously, it did not  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64;
rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4

Did you change the setting as I suggested??


Yes indeed.


Next thing, some sites, apparently, spit the dummy if FF is not the last
thing mentioned  whilst others spit the dummy if anything apart from
FF is mentioned.

These changes are accomplished by editing your config file. Let us know
if you need this!


Yes, I think I do.

[ BTW, In the config file I noticed a batch of

browser.contentHandlers.types.0.title;Feedly

up to ...types.5...  which seem excessive - are these needed?]


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Re: dropbox forum fail with seamonkey

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meagain wrote on 22/02/19 23:35:

https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/English/ct-p/English

displays only text with no formatting, et cetera, when using
SeaMonkey.

Other browsers seem fine.  I've checked images, script settings but
...

Thanks.


Meagain, just checking both Bill's and Paul's replies and noticed their 
User Agent strings *BOTH* have FireFox along with SeaMonkey.


Maybe if you adjust yours (Edit->Preference->Advanced->HTTP 
Networking->User Agent String, tick the box), re-boot SeaMonkey and it 
works, tell the Help Desk at Dropbox that they are sniffing incorrectly!!


HTH



I have firefox checked in http settings... how do I reset all browser 
settings for a clean slate?


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dropbox forum fail with seamonkey

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https://www.dropboxforum.com/t5/English/ct-p/English

displays only text with no formatting, et cetera, when using SeaMonkey.

Other browsers seem fine.  I've checked images, script settings but ...

Thanks.
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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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meagain wrote on 8/02/2019 7:32 AM:

 Original Message 
I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me 
to download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com 
as well, and other sites.


When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video, 
but how do I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard 
drive?? Can I do it with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??


Do you not see a "download" button on VIMEO?


It's been a while, meagain. I'll check it out again to see what I see.



The "download" button appears on videos when the submitter has permitted it.

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Re: Downloading for Vimeo

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I've contributed to a couple of Kickstarter projects which entitle me to 
download the Video's from such sites as Vimeo.com. And Youtube.com as 
well, and other sites.


When I enter the supplied password, I'd expect I can watch the video, 
but how do I actually get the video file downloaded onto my hard drive?? 
Can I do it with-in SeaMonkey, or do I need an add-on??


Do you not see a "download" button on VIMEO?
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Website eats memory

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If I let the website https://www.rawstory.com/...  just view in 
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 Memory gets gobbled up slowly but surely. My guess
is that the site is playing all it's little videos at once and loading 
more.  How can I stop it from playing videos?

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Re: Website eats memory

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If I let the website https://www.rawstory.com/...  just view in 
SeaMonkey 2.49.4 Memory gets gobbled up slowly but surely. My guess
is that the site is playing all it's little videos at once and loading 
more.  How can I stop it from playing videos?


I'll try "block images from this website" and see if that is better.
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Re: Request for small new feature in Address Book

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EE wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:
When you want to send a message, you have the option to encrypt the 
message with "Security", assuming you and the other party have set up 
Digital Signing.


It would be a nice feature if you could have an option "always send 
encrypted" with every address book entry.


An alternative would be a general setting "always send encrypted if 
possible", which means the mail program has to look if a certificate 
has been stored, and then send encrypted if a certificate has been 
found.


What about just having a general "Notes" section in there?  Then one 
could add any information of any sort in there.  The MacOS contact 
list has a Notes area and it is very useful.



Thank you, but that is not the point.

For legal reasons, certain email traffic must be encrypted, from end 
point to end point. For instance emails between me and my doctor. 
Assuming we have both set up digital signing, any email traffic between 
us should *always* be encrypted, automatically. I should not have to 
choose Security > Encrypt This Message to get encryption.


You want this feature setup on a per-recipient basis just like "prefers 
to receive mail as " .



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Re: memory leak

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On 9/21/2018 10:49 AM, meagain wrote:

rawstory.com seems to put SM into a memory leak. Anyone else see this?



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4

I do not see this problem.  Often, such problems are caused by faulty
scripts in the Web pages, especially in delivering advertisements.  I
have JavaScript enabled, but I also use AdBlock Plus to suppress most
advertisements.



Agreed: it seems to be the ads, videos that keep running when 
off-screen, scripts, and pop-ups that just keep adding memory.

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memory leak

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rawstory.com seems to put SM into a memory leak. Anyone else see this?
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Re: Disable Default browser/mail client check

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On 7/18/2018 1:08 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Michael Garboski wrote:


I use Seamonkey on a system which a bunch of users use.

On first run, seamonkey asks to make itself the default web 
browser/email client.


Is it possible to put something in the default profile to disable 
this from happening?


Edit | Preferences | Advanced

System Integration:
[ ] Check default application settings on startup



Ok it looks like that was what i did. I set that setting, and copied the 
profile to SeaMonkey\defaults\profile directory.


For whatever reason, I can see the setting in the default profile 
'prefs.js' file, but as soon as a new user starts Seamonkey it seems to 
ignore that entry entirely, and just ask the user if they want Seamonkey 
to be the default browser/mail clien/newsgroup reader.


That could be a 'pain' for other users.  How about just putting a 
shortcut to SeaMonkey on your desktop and click that?  Turn off the

check for default unless you do lots of browser-other-app changes.
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Re: How to forward images?

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Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Sanpam wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:
When I forward an email that has images, the recipient only 
receives a plain text email
with lots of url's. How do I forward it so it has the images of the 
original email?


I don't think there should be any embedded url's.
Are you trying to forward a picture that is on a remote internet 
site or one

that resides on your computer?

Trying to forward emails that have images, like emails from Amazon 
that include pictures

of book covers.


I see...  The pictures are not really in the email.
The email just has links to the pictures on other pages, sites, 
frames, etc.

You will need to use HTML.
You may have to turn on JS, too.
Inline or attached should not matter.




You could send the links to those pages with the images.



Too many people do THAT with the result that the file is LONG and the 
photos are duplicated as I receive in HTML.



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Re: A good (free) File Search program ?

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After struggling with this same problem for a long time finally I have 
found

an excellent solution:  it is a smal program named "Everything" from
http://www.voidtools.com

Light, free and fast, it the best I have ever seen.

 


NOTE: 'Upgrade' do Windows 10 ?  You guys must be kidding.

Desiree wrote on 30/06/2018 00:47:


It was once possible to download a version of google that would index 
all your files, including content.  Naturally it took a lot of space!

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Re: EBAY support?

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On 18/06/2018 18:55, meagain wrote:


"As of June 26, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay
with your current browser. "

What do I do about this, pray tell?


Option 1: Nothing. Wait and see what shakes loose.
Option 2: Lie about your UA.

Regards.



Are you sure they're not terrorists?  They say they "detected" my browser!-)


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EBAY support?

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"As of June 26, 2018 you will no longer be able to check out on eBay 
with your current browser. "


What do I do about this, pray tell?

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Re: SeaMonkey version 2.49.3 Browser won't load Google and youtube sites

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Mason83 schreef:

On 24/05/2018 12:29, dirk wrote:


Yeah, something strange happened, I mentioned google.com worked, NOT
ANYMORE


I would assume either a virus, or an aggressive anti-virus.



I use Bulguard, but in Chrome and IE 11 it workd flawless, I presume SM 
issue?


Dirk, Your router may be blocking keyword "google".

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Re: View message body as plain text - but no attachments?

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Perhaps the picture is created by copy/paste into the mail and not 
attached ... so visible in html mode and invisible in text mode.



I've had that happen to my recipients -  so now I'll do both (which is a 
waste).

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Re: Lost email password

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Is there a way to retrieve a password used in SM Mail??

Older person is logged out and can't remember password they used.


Have you tried
Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords

?
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Re: SeaMonkey v2.49.2 is coming soon!

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Ant wrote:
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/06/quick-update/ and 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2018/02/05/next-release-is-2-49-2-and/


Humm!! Should we be worried that Ewong twice mentions "touch wood"?!? ;-P



Ewong, the American English idiom is "knock on wood" - is that what you 
meant?

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Re: Moving to a new machine

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meagain wrote on 30-01-18 00:02:

 Original Message 
If the new PC is blank or the old installation does not be preserved 
I am usually using zip -r -S with the whole mozilla dir in roaming. 
If SeaMonkey has already been installed just delete the complete 
roaming\mozilla dir on the new pc before unpacking. Same with 
roaming\Thunderbird.


FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

rickman wrote on 27-01-18 01:23:
I had to give up on my on my old laptop (Lenovo piece of ...) and 
got a new one.  I want to move all my newsgroup files to the new 
machine. Oddly enough when I search on doing this I find info on 
moving Thunderbird.  They say to use Mozbackup.  Will that work 
with Seamonkey?


Otherwise they talk about copying the profile folder contents. 
Should that work ok with Seamonkey?



YES

I should copy what's inside this directory:"
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\ 



Or you copy
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\

note "tit-p" is my user-account-name.


In addition to "tit-p" isn't "ey8r9gln"  user unique?
Yes, that's correct.Except that's not user unique but the default 
"profile-unique"
You should copy after or 2 levels before because this strange string is 
present in the text of the profiles.ini file located in the SeaMonkey 
directory

like this:  Path=Profiles/ey8r9gln.default


Thank you.  I am surprized that this sort of backup of profile tool is 
not in the suite.

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Re: Moving to a new machine

[meagain]

 Original Message 
If the new PC is blank or the old installation does not be preserved I 
am usually using zip -r -S with the whole mozilla dir in roaming. If 
SeaMonkey has already been installed just delete the complete 
roaming\mozilla dir on the new pc before unpacking. Same with 
roaming\Thunderbird.


FRG

Ray_Net wrote:

rickman wrote on 27-01-18 01:23:
I had to give up on my on my old laptop (Lenovo piece of ...) and got 
a new one.  I want to move all my newsgroup files to the new machine. 
Oddly enough when I search on doing this I find info on moving 
Thunderbird.  They say to use Mozbackup.  Will that work with Seamonkey?


Otherwise they talk about copying the profile folder contents. Should 
that work ok with Seamonkey?



YES

I should copy what's inside this directory:"
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\ey8r9gln.default\ 



Or you copy
C:\Users\tit_p\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\

note "tit-p" is my user-account-name.


In addition to "tit-p" isn't "ey8r9gln"  user unique?
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Re: G-Mail Security

[meagain]

 Original Message 
My usual POP access to my G-Mail was blocked this AM, with a message 
referring me to the following explanation:


If an app or device doesn’t meet our security standards, Google will 
block anyone who tries to sign in from that app or device. Because 
these apps and devices are easier to break into, blocking them helps 
keep your account safe.


Some examples of apps that do not support the latest security 
standards include:


    The Mail app on your iPhone or iPad with version 6 or below
    The Mail app on your Windows phone preceding the 8.1 release
    Some Desktop mail clients like Microsoft Outlook and Mozilla 
Thunderbird


What exactly is Google considering insecure about Mozilla-based mail 
clients?


To restore access I had to change a G-Mail setting to allow access by 
insecure apps.





Same thing: made my hair stand on end (ok, hairs) - eventually I changed 
password on all devices.


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Re: The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

 Original Message 

David E. Ross wrote:


I went to [Edit > Preferences] on the SeaMonkey menu bar and
selected [Privacy & Security > Certificates] on the left side of the
Prefeences window (under Category).  If I clear both checkboxes under
OCSP, I have no problem reaching google.com; but I refuse to surf the
Web in such an insecure manner.  If I check only the first checkbox,
I again have no problem; but that is still surfing in an insecure
manner.  If I check both checkboxes, the problem still exists.


Fair points.

So why should we care if our connection to Google is secure? It's just a 
search engine.




Hmm-mm, both my check-boxes  for certificates are checked and I have no 
problem with https://www.google.com


Now, Google is way more than a "search engine" - it is an archive AND 
accumulates information on what users search for and about. And now it 
listens to every conversation near a Google Home! Home + Dot + Echo 
devices now sell at the rate of  one a second! (or so they tell me)

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Re: The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

 Original Message 

President Trump:  Please stop using Twitter.  We need
to hear your voice and see you talking.  We need to know
when your message is really your own and not your attorney's.


And not a bot!
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Re: The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

On 1/19/2018 5:37 PM, Lee wrote:

On 1/19/18, meagain <rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com> wrote:

On 1/19/2018 4:26 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

meagain wrote:

What did I do and How do I fix it?


Odds are that you attempted to connect to a web server that may have an
invalid security certificate.  It tends to happen around this time of
year.

Call or email them and tell them to fix it.
Temporarily you can be not as secure until they fix it by setting
security.OCSP.enabled  to False
I would not leave it that way though.


Got it!   require


What's going on?

change
   security.OCSP.require
to true and I get the
   Secure Connection Failed
   An error occurred during a connection to www.google.com.
   The OCSP server experienced an internal error.
trying to load https://www.google.com, but then change
   security.OCSP.GET.enabled
to true and it works!?

Lee



I set both ...enabled   and ...required to   "true" and all is well 
again.  How they got missmatched is a mystery.

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Re: The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

On 1/19/2018 4:26 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

meagain wrote:

What did I do and How do I fix it?


Odds are that you attempted to connect to a web server that may have an
invalid security certificate.  It tends to happen around this time of year.

Call or email them and tell them to fix it.
Temporarily you can be not as secure until they fix it by setting
security.OCSP.enabled  to False
I would not leave it that way though.


Got it!   require

Thanks

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Re: The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

On 1/19/2018 4:26 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

meagain wrote:

What did I do and How do I fix it?


Odds are that you attempted to connect to a web server that may have an
invalid security certificate.  It tends to happen around this time of year.

Call or email them and tell them to fix it.
Temporarily you can be not as secure until they fix it by setting
security.OCSP.enabled  to False
I would not leave it that way though.


the site was

https://www.google.com

which I use as my SeaMonkey "home page".


to access   security.ocsp.enabledwhat is the argument to 'about:'?
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The OCSP server experienced an internal error

[meagain]

What did I do and How do I fix it?


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