Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-12 Thread John



David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/11/11 4:38 AM, John wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

John wrote:

When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.


This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
fixed.

Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.



How can i vote negatively ?
Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.


That is not what is happening. When the newsserver lists open expanded I
always collapse them. The bug is that when I close the mail/news
reader with the listings collapsed, they are expanded again *sometimes*
when I next start mail/news. If they came back the way I left them when
I last closed the app, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

John


If you mean that individual newsgroup threads are expanded within a
newsgroup, that is a different issue.  That is bug #232562.  There is a
workaround for this.  Either through [Tools  Options  Advanced
Config Editor] or by editing the user.js file in your profile, set the
preference variable mailnews.scroll_to_new_message to false.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232562.

If you mean that a news-mail account is expanded, that is bug 507908,
which I cited earlier in this thread.


Yes, it is the mail-news accounts, specifically the newsservers, which 
are being expanded. I leave the mail account expanded all the time but 
not the news accounts.


Is it sufficient to have this reported as a bug for Thunderbird, or 
should it also be reported somewhere for SeaMonkey?


John
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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/12/11 12:06 PM, John wrote:
 
 
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/11/11 4:38 AM, John wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 John wrote:
 When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
 with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
 prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
 Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
 Thanks!

 I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
 completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
 sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
 it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.

 This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
 think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
 fixed.

 Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.


 How can i vote negatively ?
 Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
 before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.

 That is not what is happening. When the newsserver lists open expanded I
 always collapse them. The bug is that when I close the mail/news
 reader with the listings collapsed, they are expanded again *sometimes*
 when I next start mail/news. If they came back the way I left them when
 I last closed the app, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

 John

 If you mean that individual newsgroup threads are expanded within a
 newsgroup, that is a different issue.  That is bug #232562.  There is a
 workaround for this.  Either through [Tools  Options  Advanced
 Config Editor] or by editing the user.js file in your profile, set the
 preference variable mailnews.scroll_to_new_message to false.  See
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232562.

 If you mean that a news-mail account is expanded, that is bug 507908,
 which I cited earlier in this thread.
 
 Yes, it is the mail-news accounts, specifically the newsservers, which 
 are being expanded. I leave the mail account expanded all the time but 
 not the news accounts.
 
 Is it sufficient to have this reported as a bug for Thunderbird, or 
 should it also be reported somewhere for SeaMonkey?
 
 John

Since both bugs 232562 and 507908 are specifically Thunderbird bugs,
separate SeaMonkey bugs might be appropriate.
Check the following bug reports before submitting a new one:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64426
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208525

The user interface (UI) for SeaMonkey differs in some respects from the
UI for Thunderbird.  I'm not really familiar with the SeaMonkey UI for
mail-news.  I use Thunderbird for a newsreader because I don't want to
shut down and restart my newsreader when I change browser profiles.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread Ant

On 1/10/2011 4:49 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908


Thanks. I added my two cents and a vote. :)
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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread Ant

On 1/10/2011 9:46 AM PT, John typed:


When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I also find this annoying too. :(
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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread Ray_Net

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

John wrote:

When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.


This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature.  I
think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
fixed.

Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.



How can i vote negatively ?
Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was 
before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.

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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread W3BNR

On 1/11/2011 3:52 AM Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

John wrote:

When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.


This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
fixed.

Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.



How can i vote negatively ?
Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.


I also prefer to have it the way it was when I closed SM.  I have one news group 
that I prefer expanded and others I don't.  Perhaps a configuration option on 
each news group a user has rather than cut and dried expanded or not expanded?


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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread John

Ray_Net wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

John wrote:

When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.


This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
fixed.

Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.



How can i vote negatively ?
Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.


That is not what is happening. When the newsserver lists open expanded I 
always collapse them. The bug is that when I close the mail/news 
reader with the listings collapsed, they are expanded again *sometimes* 
when I next start mail/news. If they came back the way I left them when 
I last closed the app, I wouldn't be complaining about it.


John
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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread JAS
John wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 John wrote:
 When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
 with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
 prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
 Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
 Thanks!

 I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
 completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
 sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will
 find
 it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.

 This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
 think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
 fixed.

 Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.


 How can i vote negatively ?
 Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
 before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at
 start up.

 That is not what is happening. When the newsserver lists open expanded
 I always collapse them. The bug is that when I close the mail/news
 reader with the listings collapsed, they are expanded again
 *sometimes* when I next start mail/news. If they came back the way I
 left them when I last closed the app, I wouldn't be complaining about it.

 John
Mine has done exactly that for sometime now, through several versions ,
not just since the last update. It might happen once a week or so and I
shut down nightly. Only one of my news servers does not open when the
others do. At times the ones that are open have not checked for new
messages until I close them and reopen.

JAS

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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/11/11 4:38 AM, John wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 John wrote:
 When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
 with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
 prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
 Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
 Thanks!

 I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving
 completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to
 sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find
 it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.

 This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature. I
 think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
 fixed.

 Seehttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.


 How can i vote negatively ?
 Because i love this bug ... you will find expanded/closed as it was
 before the closing of SM, So you retrieve the latest situation at start up.
 
 That is not what is happening. When the newsserver lists open expanded I 
 always collapse them. The bug is that when I close the mail/news 
 reader with the listings collapsed, they are expanded again *sometimes* 
 when I next start mail/news. If they came back the way I left them when 
 I last closed the app, I wouldn't be complaining about it.
 
 John

If you mean that individual newsgroup threads are expanded within a
newsgroup, that is a different issue.  That is bug #232562.  There is a
workaround for this.  Either through [Tools  Options  Advanced 
Config Editor] or by editing the user.js file in your profile, set the
preference variable mailnews.scroll_to_new_message to false.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=232562.

If you mean that a news-mail account is expanded, that is bug 507908,
which I cited earlier in this thread.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
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Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-10 Thread John
When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open 
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I 
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19. 
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it? Thanks!


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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-10 Thread Ray_Net

John wrote:

When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
Thanks!


I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving 
completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to 
sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find 
it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.

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Re: Annoying behavior since updating SeaMonkey to 2.0.11 from 1.1.19

2011-01-10 Thread David E. Ross
On 1/10/11 2:37 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 John wrote:
 When I open the mail/news reader, about one time in four it will open
 with all newsservers expanded to show all subscribed newsgroups. I
 prefer them not to be expanded, and this never happened with v1.1.19.
 Why is this behavior not consistent each time, and how do I stop it?
 Thanks!
 
 I think that if you close all expanded stuffs  just before leaving 
 completely SM before going to shutdown your pc and before going to 
 sleep. The next morning started the pc and started SM ... you will find 
 it in the same situation of yesterday ... all is closed.

This is Bug 507908, which some developers think might be a feature.  I
think it is indeed a bug -- a regression from Tbird 2 -- and should be
fixed.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507908.

-- 

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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