Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-11 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 4/10/2009 9:42 PM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 On or about 4/10/2009 12:47 AM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:
 Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:
 BeeNeR wrote:
 I've always had problems printing coupons with SeaMonkey. And no
 problems at all using IE. Although I have installed couponprinter.exe
 many times I still cannot print these coupons. Latest one is the one
 from ScottsEZSeed $5.00 coupon.

 Most of these sites use the couponprinter.exe program, but it doesn't
 work for me. I usually end up calling the company and they send the
 coupon by U.S. mail.

 This has happened with Epson and HP printers, and even using FinePrint
 as a printer.

 Any suggestions?

 I don't have an answer, but an opinion: printing in SM has always
 sucked!

 As it has in all Mozilla products, from the beginning.

 If we had a link to the page with the printable coupons, maybe we could
 be more specific.  However, I generally copy whatever I want to print
 into a word processor document, then print that.  It gives me far more
 control over what the printed outcome is.

 Lee

 I'm not sure what happens after the couponprinting software is
 installed.  Just keeps telling me I need the printing software.  If you
 reload the page, they think you've printed the coupon and you no longer
 have the option available.  This is true with every site I ever visited
 for a coupon using the couponprinting.exe method.

 Other sites that just display a coupon for printing have no problem.

 For example, try to print the coupon from Scotts grass seed at:
 scottsezseed.com


 -- 
 Ed
 
 Well, I went to the site, and filled out the form. I got an email reply
 quite quickly, and clicked the link.
 
 I am glad to see that they do have a Mac version.  Unfortunately, I,
 like most of us here, am reluctant to install an unknown piece of
 software simply to run a test.  I am sorry.
 
 Like others, I do wonder why they go through this nonsense for a $5 off
 coupon, which they probably issue in most daily newspapers anyway?  It
 seems a counterproductive marketing strategy.
 
 Lee

Well, it does build up their data base of names/address/phone numbers.
And it constitutes a union between you and them so they can now harass
you with unwanted phone calls and trash mail.  Plus selling your name to
other companies.  (Not that they or any other company would do that).

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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-11 Thread Leonidas Jones

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 4/10/2009 9:42 PM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:

BeeNeR wrote:

On or about 4/10/2009 12:47 AM, Leonidas Jones typed the following:

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

I've always had problems printing coupons with SeaMonkey. And no
problems at all using IE. Although I have installed couponprinter.exe
many times I still cannot print these coupons. Latest one is the one
from ScottsEZSeed $5.00 coupon.

Most of these sites use the couponprinter.exe program, but it doesn't
work for me. I usually end up calling the company and they send the
coupon by U.S. mail.

This has happened with Epson and HP printers, and even using FinePrint
as a printer.

Any suggestions?


I don't have an answer, but an opinion: printing in SM has always
sucked!


As it has in all Mozilla products, from the beginning.

If we had a link to the page with the printable coupons, maybe we could
be more specific.  However, I generally copy whatever I want to print
into a word processor document, then print that.  It gives me far more
control over what the printed outcome is.

Lee

I'm not sure what happens after the couponprinting software is
installed.  Just keeps telling me I need the printing software.  If you
reload the page, they think you've printed the coupon and you no longer
have the option available.  This is true with every site I ever visited
for a coupon using the couponprinting.exe method.

Other sites that just display a coupon for printing have no problem.

For example, try to print the coupon from Scotts grass seed at:
scottsezseed.com


--
Ed

Well, I went to the site, and filled out the form. I got an email reply
quite quickly, and clicked the link.

I am glad to see that they do have a Mac version.  Unfortunately, I,
like most of us here, am reluctant to install an unknown piece of
software simply to run a test.  I am sorry.

Like others, I do wonder why they go through this nonsense for a $5 off
coupon, which they probably issue in most daily newspapers anyway?  It
seems a counterproductive marketing strategy.

Lee


Well, it does build up their data base of names/address/phone numbers.
And it constitutes a union between you and them so they can now harass
you with unwanted phone calls and trash mail.  Plus selling your name to
other companies.  (Not that they or any other company would do that).

--
Ed


They could build up their database just as well by having you sign up 
and then mailing you a pdf.


Lee
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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-11 Thread Gregory Hicks

 Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:21:06 -0400
 From: Leonidas Jones leonidasjo...@netscape.net
 Subject: Re: Printing Coupons
 To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
 
[...]
 
  Well, it does build up their data base of names/address/phone
  numbers.  And it constitutes a union between you and them so they
  can now harass you with unwanted phone calls and trash mail.  Plus
  selling your name to other companies.  (Not that they or any other
  company would do that).
 
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 They could build up their database just as well by having you sign 
 up and then mailing you a pdf.

But then they could not control how many times you printed out the PDF.
Generally, the company just wants to give you ONE coupon...

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OT Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-11 Thread Leonidas Jones

Gregory Hicks wrote:

Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:21:06 -0400
From: Leonidas Jonesleonidasjo...@netscape.net
Subject: Re: Printing Coupons
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


[...]

Well, it does build up their data base of names/address/phone
numbers.  And it constitutes a union between you and them so they
can now harass you with unwanted phone calls and trash mail.  Plus
selling your name to other companies.  (Not that they or any other
company would do that).

--
Ed

They could build up their database just as well by having you sign
up and then mailing you a pdf.


But then they could not control how many times you printed out the PDF.
Generally, the company just wants to give you ONE coupon...





People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men
stand ready to do violence on their behalf -- George Orwell

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.  -- Thomas Jefferson

The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they
be properly armed. --Alexander Hamilton



Its a $5 throwaway. They plaster these things in newspapers all the 
time.  its a pointless exercise.


This is also off topic, followup set to mozilla.general

Lee
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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-10 Thread Jay Garcia

On 09.04.2009 20:53, BeeNeR wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


I've always had problems printing coupons with SeaMonkey.  And no
problems at all using IE.  Although I have installed couponprinter.exe
many times I still cannot print these coupons.  Latest one is the one
from ScottsEZSeed $5.00 coupon.

Most of these sites use the couponprinter.exe program, but it doesn't
work for me.  I usually end up calling the company and they send the
coupon by U.S. mail.

This has happened with Epson and HP printers, and even using FinePrint
as a printer.

Any suggestions?

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How about a URL?


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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-10 Thread Jay Garcia

On 10.04.2009 06:13, Jay Garcia wrote:

 --- Original Message ---


How about a URL?


Got the URL, had to fill out a form to get the email to get the coupon 
page. Waiting for the email ... zzz ... zzz ...zzz


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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-10 Thread Michael Gordon




And the reason they use this method is to prevent the user from making
multiple copies.  Although once the coupon is printed what's to prevent
me from manually copying it?

--
Ed


I did just that and I was prompted to install their program, no thanks.

I e-mail their support this morning and received a reply, see below.

Thank you for contacting us concerning Scotts products. As always, it is 
our goal to make sure that our customers are completely satisfied with 
our products and services.


I am sorry you are experiencing problems printing coupons from our 
website. All coupons that are printed off the web require that you 
download the software (unless that specific software is already 
installed on your PC, as in if another vendor uses the same software). 
Each coupon you print is unique and encoded by the software so that the 
coupons can't be duplicated or used for fraudulent purposes.  If you 
install the software now, you can use the same software for future 
coupon offers.


The Coupon printer is free, safe and easy to use. It does not install 
any form of spyware or adware or collect any personal information about 
you. Once it has been downloaded and installed, a process that only 
takes a few seconds, you will be able to print coupons from our site and 
from emails you might receive.


 If this is not acceptable to you and you would prefer we mail the 
coupon, please reply with your mailing address and I will mail you the 
coupon via the USPS.
I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. Please feel free 
to contact us on our toll free help line at 1-800-543-8873 if we can 
answer any additional questions or you are still unable to print our 
coupons. Just a note, Home Depot and Lowe's do not accept our coupons.


Again, thank you for taking the time to let us know of your concerns. 
Please do not hesitate to contact us if we can be of any additional help 
to you.


Angela Garrison
Consumer Response Representative
The Scotts Company and Subsidiaries
14111 Scottslawn Road
Marysville, OH 43041


You are correct in that there is nothing to prevent printing the first 
coupon and then making 1000 copies and giving them to all your friends 
and neighbors.


The purpose of a coupon is to entice people to buy their product at some 
time in the future.


What should they care if they printed a 1000 coupons with their 
software, or a 1000 coupons were freely distributed?


Michael
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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-10 Thread BeeNeR
On or about 4/10/2009 3:01 PM, Michael Gordon typed the following:
 

 And the reason they use this method is to prevent the user from making
 multiple copies.  Although once the coupon is printed what's to prevent
 me from manually copying it?

 -- 
 Ed
 
 I did just that and I was prompted to install their program, no thanks.
 
 I e-mail their support this morning and received a reply, see below.
 
 Thank you for contacting us concerning Scotts products. As always, it is
 our goal to make sure that our customers are completely satisfied with
 our products and services.
 
 I am sorry you are experiencing problems printing coupons from our
 website. All coupons that are printed off the web require that you
 download the software (unless that specific software is already
 installed on your PC, as in if another vendor uses the same software).
 Each coupon you print is unique and encoded by the software so that the
 coupons can't be duplicated or used for fraudulent purposes.  If you
 install the software now, you can use the same software for future
 coupon offers.
 
 The Coupon printer is free, safe and easy to use. It does not install
 any form of spyware or adware or collect any personal information about
 you. Once it has been downloaded and installed, a process that only
 takes a few seconds, you will be able to print coupons from our site and
 from emails you might receive.
 
  If this is not acceptable to you and you would prefer we mail the
 coupon, please reply with your mailing address and I will mail you the
 coupon via the USPS.
 I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused you. Please feel free
 to contact us on our toll free help line at 1-800-543-8873 if we can
 answer any additional questions or you are still unable to print our
 coupons. Just a note, Home Depot and Lowe's do not accept our coupons.
 
 Again, thank you for taking the time to let us know of your concerns.
 Please do not hesitate to contact us if we can be of any additional help
 to you.
 
 Angela Garrison
 Consumer Response Representative
 The Scotts Company and Subsidiaries
 14111 Scottslawn Road
 Marysville, OH 43041
 
 
 You are correct in that there is nothing to prevent printing the first
 coupon and then making 1000 copies and giving them to all your friends
 and neighbors.
 
 The purpose of a coupon is to entice people to buy their product at some
 time in the future.
 
 What should they care if they printed a 1000 coupons with their
 software, or a 1000 coupons were freely distributed?
 
 Michael

And the reply to my complaint:

Thank you for contacting us concerning Scotts products. As always, it is
our goal to make sure that our customers are completely satisfied with
our products and services.

I am sorry you experienced difficulties printing the Scotts coupon from
the website. I am sending the coupon by mail. I apologize for any
inconvenience this has caused you.

Again, thank you for taking the time to let us know of your concerns.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if we can be of any additional help
to you.

Nicole Nunziato
Consumer Response Representative
The Scotts Company and Subsidiaries
14111 Scottslawn Road
Marysville, OH 43041

Ref # 7848808

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Re: Printing Coupons

2009-04-09 Thread Leonidas Jones

Peter Potamus the Purple Hippo wrote:

BeeNeR wrote:

I've always had problems printing coupons with SeaMonkey. And no
problems at all using IE. Although I have installed couponprinter.exe
many times I still cannot print these coupons. Latest one is the one
from ScottsEZSeed $5.00 coupon.

Most of these sites use the couponprinter.exe program, but it doesn't
work for me. I usually end up calling the company and they send the
coupon by U.S. mail.

This has happened with Epson and HP printers, and even using FinePrint
as a printer.

Any suggestions?



I don't have an answer, but an opinion: printing in SM has always sucked!



As it has in all Mozilla products, from the beginning.

If we had a link to the page with the printable coupons, maybe we could 
be more specific.  However, I generally copy whatever I want to print 
into a word processor document, then print that.  It gives me far more 
control over what the printed outcome is.


Lee
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