Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-08-01 Thread Ray_Net

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Dans son message précédent, Bernard Mercier a écrit :

Après mure réflexion, Daniel a écrit :

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit :

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.

You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks
manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.
Robert Kaiser

In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the
same directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt.
So import will not work.




Perhaps KaiRo will correct me, but I believe SM 2.2 now stores your
bookmarks file in the same location as your mail profile. If you have
not created a bookmark since upgrading to SM 2.2 there will be no
places.sqlite in your profile, so what you may need to do is locate your
old bookmarks.html, then import it into your SM 2.2, then when you
close, you might have a bookmarks.html in your profile locationmaybe.

Thank you.
What happened I think is that I was looking in a FireFox profile, while
thinking I was in the SeaMonkey one.



As I had a very recent bookmarks.html elsewhere, I did an import in SeaMonkey
2.2 and I got my bookmarks, as well as a bookmarks.html file, which is in the
same directory as the places.sqlite.



So still don't know what happened when the automatic update was done and I
didn't have my bookmarks.

I am confused now.
I continued to work so.
I added a bookmark and then looked where a change is made.
The bookmarks.html is still at the same date and time. So nothing was added
there.
But places.sqlite changes regularly date and time.

So where are the bookmarks really?

In bookmarks.html as some tend to say?
Or in places.sqlite?
To be clear I use 2.2 now.


If you want to have a bookmarks.html file up-to-date, you need to go to
the bookmark manager then choice Tools then choice Export HTML
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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-08-01 Thread Robert Kaiser

Bernard Mercier schrieb:

I am confused now.
I continued to work so.
I added a bookmark and then looked where a change is made.
The bookmarks.html is still at the same date and time. So nothing was added
there.
But places.sqlite changes regularly date and time.


In 2.2, bookmarks.html is not used any more, all bookmarks are stored in 
places.sqlite. There is a hidden pref with which you can export 
bookmarks to the quasi-HTML file every time you close SeaMonkey, but it 
still will not use bookmarks from there but from places.sqlite.
We have code that should import the old bookmarks the first time you use 
2.1 or 2.2, and it works for most people but apparently sometimes fails. 
Importing manually from the bookmarks.html from bookmarks manager works, 
after that, you should not need the bookmarks.html file any more.


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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-31 Thread Daniel

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit :

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.



You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks
manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.



Robert Kaiser

In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the same
directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt.
So import will not work.



Perhaps KaiRo will correct me, but I believe SM 2.2 now stores your 
bookmarks file in the same location as your mail profile. If you have 
not created a bookmark since upgrading to SM 2.2 there will be no 
places.sqlite in your profile, so what you may need to do is locate your 
old bookmarks.html, then import it into your SM 2.2, then when you 
close, you might have a bookmarks.html in your profile locationmaybe.


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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Après mure réflexion, Daniel a écrit :
 Bernard Mercier wrote:
 Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit :
 Dale DePriest schrieb:
 I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
 file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
 the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
 location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.

 You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks
 manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.

 Robert Kaiser
 In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the
 same directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt.
 So import will not work.


 Perhaps KaiRo will correct me, but I believe SM 2.2 now stores your 
 bookmarks file in the same location as your mail profile. If you have 
 not created a bookmark since upgrading to SM 2.2 there will be no 
 places.sqlite in your profile, so what you may need to do is locate your 
 old bookmarks.html, then import it into your SM 2.2, then when you 
 close, you might have a bookmarks.html in your profile locationmaybe.
Thank you.
What happened I think is that I was looking in a FireFox profile, while
thinking I was in the SeaMonkey one.

As I had a very recent bookmarks.html elsewhere, I did an import in SeaMonkey
2.2 and I got my bookmarks, as well as a bookmarks.html file, which is in the
same directory as the places.sqlite.

So still don't know what happened when the automatic update was done and I
didn't have my bookmarks.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-31 Thread Bernard Mercier
Dans son message précédent, Bernard Mercier a écrit :
 Après mure réflexion, Daniel a écrit :
 Bernard Mercier wrote:
 Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit :
 Dale DePriest schrieb:
 I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
 file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
 the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
 location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.
 You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks
 manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.
 Robert Kaiser
 In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the
 same directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt.
 So import will not work.
 

 Perhaps KaiRo will correct me, but I believe SM 2.2 now stores your 
 bookmarks file in the same location as your mail profile. If you have 
 not created a bookmark since upgrading to SM 2.2 there will be no 
 places.sqlite in your profile, so what you may need to do is locate your 
 old bookmarks.html, then import it into your SM 2.2, then when you 
 close, you might have a bookmarks.html in your profile locationmaybe.
 Thank you.
 What happened I think is that I was looking in a FireFox profile, while
 thinking I was in the SeaMonkey one.

 As I had a very recent bookmarks.html elsewhere, I did an import in SeaMonkey
 2.2 and I got my bookmarks, as well as a bookmarks.html file, which is in the
 same directory as the places.sqlite.

 So still don't know what happened when the automatic update was done and I
 didn't have my bookmarks.
I am confused now.
I continued to work so.
I added a bookmark and then looked where a change is made.
The bookmarks.html is still at the same date and time. So nothing was added
there.
But places.sqlite changes regularly date and time.

So where are the bookmarks really?

In bookmarks.html as some tend to say?
Or in places.sqlite?
To be clear I use 2.2 now.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-31 Thread NoOp
On 07/31/2011 04:48 PM, Bernard Mercier wrote:
 Dans son message précédent, Bernard Mercier a écrit :
...
 Perhaps KaiRo will correct me, but I believe SM 2.2 now stores your 
 bookmarks file in the same location as your mail profile. If you have 
 not created a bookmark since upgrading to SM 2.2 there will be no 
 places.sqlite in your profile, so what you may need to do is locate your 
 old bookmarks.html, then import it into your SM 2.2, then when you 
 close, you might have a bookmarks.html in your profile locationmaybe.
 Thank you.
 What happened I think is that I was looking in a FireFox profile, while
 thinking I was in the SeaMonkey one.
 
 As I had a very recent bookmarks.html elsewhere, I did an import in SeaMonkey
 2.2 and I got my bookmarks, as well as a bookmarks.html file, which is in the
 same directory as the places.sqlite.
 
 So still don't know what happened when the automatic update was done and I
 didn't have my bookmarks.
 I am confused now.
 I continued to work so.
 I added a bookmark and then looked where a change is made.
 The bookmarks.html is still at the same date and time. So nothing was added
 there.
 But places.sqlite changes regularly date and time.
 
 So where are the bookmarks really?
 
 In bookmarks.html as some tend to say?
 Or in places.sqlite?
 To be clear I use 2.2 now.
 

Maybe this will help:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-30 Thread Bernard Mercier
Après mure réflexion, Robert Kaiser a écrit :
 Dale DePriest schrieb:
 I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
 file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
 the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
 location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.

 You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks 
 manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.

 Robert Kaiser
In my case, the problem is that I don't have a bookmarks.html file in the same
directory as the places.sqlite and places.sqlite.corrupt.
So import will not work.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-30 Thread Bernard Mercier
MCBastos a exposé le 27/07/2011 :
 Interviewed by CNN on 27/07/2011 12:42, Bernard Mercier told the world:

 Even before updating, I didn't have a bookmarks.html file.
 As far as I remember some comment, it is not used anymore and all is in one
 place, places.sqlite.
 Thus such a file can maybe grow considerably.

 Not quite correct. SM 2.0.x still uses the bookmarks.html. One of the
 big changes in 2.1 was precisely moving bookmars into places.sqlite --
 which enabled a number of new features, such as Sync and the new
 click-on-the-address-bar-icon method of bookmarking, similar to
 Firefox's star.

 Still, for a variety of reasons, Seamonkey keeps the ability of
 exporting the bookmarks to an html file automatically on shutdown. I
 don't recall right now if this option is enabled by default.
Then I don't understand why I don't have a bookmarks.html file.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-29 Thread Dale DePriest

Bernard Mercier wrote:

Up to now I happily migrated from 1.x.x to 2.0.14 through the proposed update
facility.
When the proposal came to update to 2.2 I was confident to choose to update.

Horror

When 2.2 openend I didn't have my bookmarks any more.

I looked in the forum here and saw an advice to look to try to rename
places.sqlite.corrupt to places.sqlite. I had 2 such files ...corrupt and
...corrupt1.
The places.sqlite and ..corrupt and ..corrupt1 are all 20MB. So supposingly
containing my bookmarks.

After such a rename I still didn't have my bookmarks.
But going in the manage bookmarks, I found the structure of my bookmarks back,
but apparently the urls aren't accesible as clicking on a bookmark doesn't open
the bookmark.

So this is really a disaster.

The files being 20MB I have the feeling the URL's are there, but how can I
access them?

I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open 
file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of 
the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the 
location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.


For me they were at:
file:///E:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Dale%20DePriest/Application%20Data/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/Profiles/quqf743l.default/bookmarks.html

Your location may be different.

Dale
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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-29 Thread Robert Kaiser

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.


You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks 
manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.


Robert Kaiser

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-29 Thread Dale DePriest

Robert Kaiser wrote:

Dale DePriest schrieb:

I lost my bookmarks as well. Here is what I did to fix it. I did an open
file and traversed the seamonkey support installation to the location of
the bookmarks.html file and there they were. So I bookmarked the
location. Now I can see them and use them whenever I wish.


You should be able to import exactly that file from the bookmarks
manager and then have your bookmarks available just like usual again.

Robert Kaiser



Thanks for that. I didn't see this in the update.

Dale
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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-27 Thread DrSlider
I thought I, too, had lost my bookmarks, since they did not appear when I hit 
F9. However, they were just folded up. Click the + on the Bookmarks Menu 
and they are probably there. Custom icons will reload when you visit the sites. 

If you don't find them folded up, they will be at C:\Documents and 
Settings\Username\Application 
Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\randomfilename.slt\bookmarks.html If they are not 
there, they may be lost.

20 MB is too big for a bookmarks file. Even with my hundreds, it is only ~300 
KB. The places.sqlite files are history files.
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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-27 Thread Bernard Mercier
DrSlider a exprimé avec précision :
 I thought I, too, had lost my bookmarks, since they did not appear when I hit
 F9. However, they were just folded up. Click the + on the Bookmarks Menu
 and they are probably there. Custom icons will reload when you visit the
 sites. 

 If you don't find them folded up, they will be at C:\Documents and
 Settings\Username\Application
 Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\randomfilename.slt\bookmarks.html If they are
 not there, they may be lost.

 20 MB is too big for a bookmarks file. Even with my hundreds, it is only ~300
 KB. The places.sqlite files are history files.
I am back in 2.0.14, but at my next attempt I'll see into your advice.

Even before updating, I didn't have a bookmarks.html file.
As far as I remember some comment, it is not used anymore and all is in one
place, places.sqlite.
Thus such a file can maybe grow considerably.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-27 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 27/07/2011 12:42, Bernard Mercier told the world:

 Even before updating, I didn't have a bookmarks.html file.
 As far as I remember some comment, it is not used anymore and all is in one
 place, places.sqlite.
 Thus such a file can maybe grow considerably.

Not quite correct. SM 2.0.x still uses the bookmarks.html. One of the
big changes in 2.1 was precisely moving bookmars into places.sqlite --
which enabled a number of new features, such as Sync and the new
click-on-the-address-bar-icon method of bookmarking, similar to
Firefox's star.

Still, for a variety of reasons, Seamonkey keeps the ability of
exporting the bookmarks to an html file automatically on shutdown. I
don't recall right now if this option is enabled by default.

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Re: [Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-23 Thread Bernard Mercier
Bernard Mercier a formulé ce vrijdag :
 Up to now I happily migrated from 1.x.x to 2.0.14 through the proposed update
 facility.
 When the proposal came to update to 2.2 I was confident to choose to update.

 Horror

 When 2.2 openend I didn't have my bookmarks any more.

 I looked in the forum here and saw an advice to look to try to rename
 places.sqlite.corrupt to places.sqlite. I had 2 such files ...corrupt and
 ...corrupt1.
 The places.sqlite and ..corrupt and ..corrupt1 are all 20MB. So supposingly
 containing my bookmarks.

 After such a rename I still didn't have my bookmarks.
 But going in the manage bookmarks, I found the structure of my bookmarks
 back, but apparently the urls aren't accesible as clicking on a bookmark
 doesn't open the bookmark.

 So this is really a disaster.

 The files being 20MB I have the feeling the URL's are there, but how can I
 access them?
A fellow user of the same Linux distribution said he had the same problem.

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[Linux] Updating 2.0.14 to 2.2 a disaster for the bookmarks.

2011-07-22 Thread Bernard Mercier
Up to now I happily migrated from 1.x.x to 2.0.14 through the proposed update
facility.
When the proposal came to update to 2.2 I was confident to choose to update.

Horror

When 2.2 openend I didn't have my bookmarks any more.

I looked in the forum here and saw an advice to look to try to rename
places.sqlite.corrupt to places.sqlite. I had 2 such files ...corrupt and
...corrupt1.
The places.sqlite and ..corrupt and ..corrupt1 are all 20MB. So supposingly
containing my bookmarks.

After such a rename I still didn't have my bookmarks.
But going in the manage bookmarks, I found the structure of my bookmarks back,
but apparently the urls aren't accesible as clicking on a bookmark doesn't open
the bookmark.

So this is really a disaster.

The files being 20MB I have the feeling the URL's are there, but how can I
access them?

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