Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[NoOp]

On 3/16/2017 3:52 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 3/16/2017 12:51 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Richmond wrote:
 I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
 Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:

 https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

 It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
 the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.

>>>
>>> That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
>>> getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.
>>>
>>> I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
>>> are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
>>> like gmail.
>>>
>> 
>> OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was doing 
>> with POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the initial 
>> post in this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 service after 
>> 9 March due to errors.  As I had made no changes on my end I can only 
>> assume that Yahoo changed something on the POP3 server that was making 
>> it impossible for SeaMonkey to use it as I had previously.  When I saw 
>> the notice about 31 March I assumed that they were connected and there 
>> would likely be no fix from Yahoo forthcoming prior to that date.
>> 
>> As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am 
>> getting the same error:
>> 
>> "The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND 
>> XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum 
>> Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail, 
>> turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in 
>> the Account Settings window."
>> 
>> Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still 
>> encountering them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP 
>> account which I am using instead of the POP3 one.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
> 
> I get that occasionally & when I do I try the following:
> 
> 1. Right click on 'Inbox', then 'Properties' then click on 'Repair Folder'.
> 2. Shut down SeaMonkey & restart.
> 3. 2. Right click on the account name & click on 'Get Messages for Account'.
> 
> If that doesn't work repeat 1, shut down SeaMonkey, and then delete the
> .msf files for the account (Troubleshooting|Profile Folder:Show
> Folder|Mail|, then restart SeaMonkey.
> 
> Not 100%, but seems to work most of the time. Give it a try.
> 

David,

Forgot that I did some troubleshooting on this back in 2013, you can see
the link here:


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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[NoOp]

On 3/16/2017 12:51 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
>>> I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
>>> Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:
>>>
>>> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html
>>>
>>> It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
>>> the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.
>>>
>>
>> That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
>> getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.
>>
>> I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
>> are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
>> like gmail.
>>
> 
> OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was doing 
> with POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the initial 
> post in this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 service after 
> 9 March due to errors.  As I had made no changes on my end I can only 
> assume that Yahoo changed something on the POP3 server that was making 
> it impossible for SeaMonkey to use it as I had previously.  When I saw 
> the notice about 31 March I assumed that they were connected and there 
> would likely be no fix from Yahoo forthcoming prior to that date.
> 
> As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am 
> getting the same error:
> 
> "The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND 
> XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum 
> Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail, 
> turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in 
> the Account Settings window."
> 
> Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still 
> encountering them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP 
> account which I am using instead of the POP3 one.
> 
> Dave
> 

I get that occasionally & when I do I try the following:

1. Right click on 'Inbox', then 'Properties' then click on 'Repair Folder'.
2. Shut down SeaMonkey & restart.
3. 2. Right click on the account name & click on 'Get Messages for Account'.

If that doesn't work repeat 1, shut down SeaMonkey, and then delete the
.msf files for the account (Troubleshooting|Profile Folder:Show
Folder|Mail|, then restart SeaMonkey.

Not 100%, but seems to work most of the time. Give it a try.
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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[WaltS48]

On 3/16/17 3:51 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

Richmond wrote:

I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.



That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.

I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
like gmail.



OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was 
doing with POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the 
initial post in this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 
service after 9 March due to errors.  As I had made no changes on my 
end I can only assume that Yahoo changed something on the POP3 server 
that was making it impossible for SeaMonkey to use it as I had 
previously.  When I saw the notice about 31 March I assumed that they 
were connected and there would likely be no fix from Yahoo forthcoming 
prior to that date.


As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am 
getting the same error:


"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or 
XTND XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', 
``Maximum Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To 
download your mail, turn off these options in the Server Settings for 
your mail server in the Account Settings window."


Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still 
encountering them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP 
account which I am using instead of the POP3 one.


Dave



You are not the only one! You could confirm this 7 year old bug.



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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[WaltS48]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Richmond wrote:

I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.



That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.

I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
like gmail.



OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was doing
with POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the initial
post in this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 service after
9 March due to errors.  As I had made no changes on my end I can only
assume that Yahoo changed something on the POP3 server that was making
it impossible for SeaMonkey to use it as I had previously.  When I saw
the notice about 31 March I assumed that they were connected and there
would likely be no fix from Yahoo forthcoming prior to that date.

As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am
getting the same error:

"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window."

Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still
encountering them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP
account which I am using instead of the POP3 one.

Dave



Did you turn off the "Leave on Server", "Fetch Headers Only" and 
"Maximum Message Size" options and still get the error?


Maximum message size is probably under Disk Space and actually "To save 
disk space, do not download: Messages larger than ".


At least it works in IMAP. :)
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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[Gérard]

On 03/16/2017 08:51 PM, David H. Durgee wrote:

Richmond wrote:

I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.



That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.

I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
like gmail.



OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was doing with 
POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the initial post in 
this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 service after 9 March due to 
errors.  As I had made no changes on my end I can only assume that Yahoo 
changed something on the POP3 server that was making it impossible for 
SeaMonkey to use it as I had previously.  When I saw the notice about 31 March 
I assumed that they were connected and there would likely be no fix from Yahoo 
forthcoming prior to that date.


As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am getting 
the same error:


"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND XLST, 
which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum Message 
Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail, turn off 
these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in the Account 
Settings window."


Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still encountering 
them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP account which I am using 
instead of the POP3 one.


Dave


Dear Dave,
I have given up using /POP3/ *gmail* a long time ago, /IMAP/ works fine for me, 
no prob...


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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[David H. Durgee]

Richmond wrote:

I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:

https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.



That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.

I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
like gmail.



OK, I will concede that I might have misunderstood what Yahoo was doing 
with POP3 services.  All I can note is that as I reported in the initial 
post in this thread that I was unable to use Yahoo's POP3 service after 
9 March due to errors.  As I had made no changes on my end I can only 
assume that Yahoo changed something on the POP3 server that was making 
it impossible for SeaMonkey to use it as I had previously.  When I saw 
the notice about 31 March I assumed that they were connected and there 
would likely be no fix from Yahoo forthcoming prior to that date.


As I did not remove the POP3 account I can confirm that even now I am 
getting the same error:


"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND 
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum 
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail, 
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in 
the Account Settings window."


Am I the only one encountering these errors?  If so, I am still 
encountering them and the only way around them was to add an IMAP 
account which I am using instead of the POP3 one.


Dave
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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[NoOp]

On 3/16/2017 6:26 AM, Richmond wrote:
>> I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using 
>> Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:
>> 
>> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html
>> 
>> It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of 
>> the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.
>> 
> 
> That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
> getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.
> 
> I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
> are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
> like gmail.
> 

Ah... (que the light bulb above head!) - thanks for pointing that out.
I'm back to reading comprehension classes next week :-)


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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[Richmond]

> I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using 
> Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:
> 
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html
> 
> It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of 
> the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.
> 

That's not what the article says. It is talking about pop3 import, i.e.
getting mail from other email accounts into Yahoo.

I think if Yahoo stopped pop3 support it would be big news, because many
are trying to get away from it by pulling mail into another provider
like gmail.

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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[NoOp]

On 3/15/2017 6:02 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:
> David H. Durgee wrote:
>> Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey
>> via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a
>> problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve
>> Yahoo mail I get:
>>
>> "The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
>> XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
>> Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
>> turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
>> the Account Settings window."
>>
>> Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am
>> out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing
>> this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does
>> work properly?
>>
>> I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and
>> thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash
>> and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost
>> a week has passed and the problem still remains.
>>
>> Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey?
>> I have no interest in using web mail in the office.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using 
> Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:
> 
> https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html
> 
> It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of 
> the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.

Wow... interesting. I found this thread as well:


I have multiple POP3 accounts with yahoo (on both SeaMonkey &
Thunderbird), several are both IMAP and POP3. I've not had any notice as
indicated in the forums thread, but I reckon that I'll duplicate the
remainder just in case.


> 
> How can I switch over in SeaMonkey 2.48 from POP3 to IMAP?  Do I need to 
> set up an entirely new mail account, or can I simply edit the server 
> configuration for the current mail account?  Will there be any problems 
> I should expect with the conversion?

As TCW stated - create new IMAP accounts in parallel with your POP3
accounts. The only thing I'd do differently is just keep both the POP3
and IMAP accounts until the POP3 stops working - can't hurt & if you
have sufficient storage space, set the IMAP accounts to keep the
messages on the computer (Synchronization & Storage|Message
Synchronizing|tick 'Keep messages for this account on this computer'). I
distiguish between the two by including POP3 or IMAP in the account name
(e.g. username@yahoo IMAP or username @yahoo POP3).

Thanks for pointing out the yahoo KB.


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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[WaltS48]

On 3/15/17 1:45 PM, Alex Beauroy wrote:

On 15/03/2017 13:51, David H. Durgee wrote:

Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey
via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a
problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve
Yahoo mail I get:

"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window."

Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am
out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing
this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does
work properly?

I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and
thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash
and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost
a week has passed and the problem still remains.& Newsgroups

Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey?
I have no interest in using web mail in the office.

Dave

Hi there!!!
I had this problem!!! I finally decided to remove my Pop Yahoo mail 
account from SM and have tried to re-add it back by using the Mail & 
Newsgroups Accounts settings from the Edit Menu!!

But Bingo the stuff is broken and it asks only for News group Server!!!
What should I do : I don't know!!!
It seems that this broken thing have been reported here already, but 
still no news about it.

Let me know what you'll get from this 
I'm still OK with SeaMonkey since Netscape Communicator and I'm trying 
to resist to Firefox/Thunderbird temptation!!!

Best Regards
@lex


That is this unresolved problem.

After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the 
MailNews account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be 
News). To work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid 
pref (where X is the internal number of the corresponding news 
account) to true in about:config, or delete the invalid news account


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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[Alex Beauroy]

On 15/03/2017 13:51, David H. Durgee wrote:

Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey
via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a
problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve
Yahoo mail I get:

"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window."

Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am
out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing
this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does
work properly?

I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and
thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash
and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost
a week has passed and the problem still remains.& Newsgroups

Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey?
I have no interest in using web mail in the office.

Dave

Hi there!!!
I had this problem!!! I finally decided to remove my Pop Yahoo mail 
account from SM and have tried to re-add it back by using the Mail & 
Newsgroups Accounts settings from the Edit Menu!!

But Bingo the stuff is broken and it asks only for News group Server!!!
What should I do : I don't know!!!
It seems that this broken thing have been reported here already, but 
still no news about it.

Let me know what you'll get from this 
I'm still OK with SeaMonkey since Netscape Communicator and I'm trying 
to resist to Firefox/Thunderbird temptation!!!

Best Regards
@lex
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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[TCW]

On 3/15/2017 8:02 AM, David H. Durgee wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey
via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a
problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve
Yahoo mail I get:

"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window."

Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am
out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing
this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does
work properly?

I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and
thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash
and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost
a week has passed and the problem still remains.

Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey?
I have no interest in using web mail in the office.

Dave


I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using 
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of 
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.


How can I switch over in SeaMonkey 2.48 from POP3 to IMAP?  Do I need to 
set up an entirely new mail account, or can I simply edit the server 
configuration for the current mail account?  Will there be any problems 
I should expect with the conversion?


Dave


If *all* of your email is on the server and nothing is stored locally, 
you'll be ok to:


1. Create a new account in Seamonkey that will be your IMAP account with 
IMAP server settings.


2. Once the IMAP account is up and running and all looks well, set it as 
the Default account.


3. Delete the POP3 account.

Is should be as simple as that. If you do have some mail stored locally, 
create a new folder in Local Folder called TEMP or HOLD (or whatever) 
and move your local mail there and then go through steps 1, 2 and 3. 
When done, just move the mail back from TEMP of HOLD.

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Re: Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[David H. Durgee]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey
via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a
problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve
Yahoo mail I get:

"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail,
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in
the Account Settings window."

Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am
out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing
this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does
work properly?

I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and
thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash
and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost
a week has passed and the problem still remains.

Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey?
I have no interest in using web mail in the office.

Dave


I think I may have found the answer to my question.  Anyone else using 
Yahoo mail via POP3 see this article:


https://help.yahoo.com/kb/mail-for-desktop/sln28161.html

It appears that Yahoo is dropping POP3 support effective at the end of 
the month.  They suggest using IMAP instead.


How can I switch over in SeaMonkey 2.48 from POP3 to IMAP?  Do I need to 
set up an entirely new mail account, or can I simply edit the server 
configuration for the current mail account?  Will there be any problems 
I should expect with the conversion?


Dave
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Problems with Yahoo POP mail

[David H. Durgee]

Since 9 March I have been unable to retrieve my Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey 
via their POP3 server.  I have made no changes, so I assume it is a 
problem or change on their end.  When I attempt to manually retrieve 
Yahoo mail I get:


"The POP3 mail server (pop.mail.yahoo.com) does not support UIDL or XTND 
XLST, which are required to implement the ``Leave on Server'', ``Maximum 
Message Size'' or ``Fetch Headers Only'' options. To download your mail, 
turn off these options in the Server Settings for your mail server in 
the Account Settings window."


Of course I AM interested in leaving messages on the server in case I am 
out of the office and want to check Yahoo mail.  Is anyone else seeing 
this problem?  Is there an alternative POP3 server for Yahoo that does 
work properly?


I seem to recall seeing this problem occasionally in the past and 
thought that it occurred when Yahoo had some sort of a POP3 server crash 
and failed to initially recover all functions.  But in this case almost 
a week has passed and the problem still remains.


Are there any other alternatives to retrieve Yahoo mail with SeaMonkey? 
I have no interest in using web mail in the office.


Dave
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