Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently

2009-09-15 Thread Ant

On 9/15/2009 11:57 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:


I don't use Ubuntu. I use raw Debian.


And I heard report of this problem from other distros as well, e.g.
openSUSE 11.0.


So basically, all UNIX and Linux? Nothing in Mac OS X and Windows?


Right.


As we're using the same NSS in 1.1.18 as in 2.0b2, and apparently
2.0b2 doesn't have that problem on the same machines, it looks very
much like the problem isn't even NSS itself, but how we actually load 
it.

If I just would understand any of that code...


Same here. I am just a QA tester. :D


According to the bug, it might be worth to set a https:// page as your 
start page and see if that makes the problem go away. If that works, we 
at least start to have a clue what's up.


Sure, but I had only seen this problem once so... :/
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Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently

2009-09-14 Thread Ant

On 9/14/2009 2:33 AM PT, Ant typed:

I FINALLY saw the problem on EarthLink's Webmail in my Debian/Linux 
box. How annoying. Is there a fix or do we have to downgrade back to 
v1.1.17? :(


Has even a bug been filed on the Linux version of the issue? I notice 
that you said it was an old Debian box, so maybe NSS is trying to 
use a newer API that's not supported on whichever old version of 
Debian that you're using, similar to the Windows issue where they're 
using an API that was introduced with IE4.


I don't know for your questions. How would I check for NSS version? 
Also, I cannot figure how to reproduce this error. It happened once. I 
fixed the problem by exiting SM and relaunching it.


Also, this should had been posted in mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup 
as well. :)

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Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently

2009-09-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Ant wrote:

On 9/14/2009 2:33 AM PT, Ant typed:

Also, I cannot figure how to reproduce this error. It happened once. I
fixed the problem by exiting SM and relaunching it.


Also, this should had been posted in mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup
as well. :)


The bug is filed, and not being able to consistently reproduce it is 
what makes it quite hard to find out what's the problem and possibly fix it.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514838

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Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently

2009-09-14 Thread Ant

On 9/14/2009 8:04 AM PT, Robert Kaiser typed:


How would I check for NSS version?


Why would you want to check it? We know the NSS version, SeaMonkey 
1.1.18 comes with NSS 3.12.3.1, that's the whole purpose of doing a 
1.1.18 at all, as the NSS 3.11.x used by SM 1.1.17 and lower allows SSL 
connections to be intercepted by third parties (so.called MITM attacks).



Also, I cannot figure how to reproduce this error. It happened once. I
fixed the problem by exiting SM and relaunching it.


Yes, that bug is filed, and not being able to consistently reproduce it 
is what makes it quite hard to find out what's the problem and possibly 
fix it.

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514838


Thanks Robert. We need to figure out how to reproduce it.

There might be clues from last night's incident. Before I went to 
https://webmail.earthlink.net/, I was trying to vote on 
http://ve3d.com/, but it gave me an error about not being able to write 
(cache related?). I didn't write the error down because I thought it was 
unrelated to SSL. I went to Webmail and it gave me that SSL error. I 
tried to repeat that, but failed. :(

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Re: SSL protocol disabled in 1.1.18 Linux - intermittently

2009-09-14 Thread Ant

On 9/14/2009 9:37 AM PT, NoOp typed:


How would I check for NSS version?


Why would you want to check it? We know the NSS version, SeaMonkey 
1.1.18 comes with NSS 3.12.3.1, that's the whole purpose of doing a 
1.1.18 at all, as the NSS 3.11.x used by SM 1.1.17 and lower allows SSL 
connections to be intercepted by third parties (so.called MITM attacks).



It does. But if you are using a debian packaged version, you'll want to
check the version on your system to ensure that it is updated as well.

http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-810-1
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-810-2
http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-810-3

Other distros should have similar security updates.

Ant, to check your version use 'apt-cache policy packagename'. Sample
output from an Ubuntu 9.04 system:

$ apt-cache policy libnss3-1d
libnss3-1d:
  Installed: 3.12.3.1-0ubuntu0.9.04.2
  Candidate: 3.12.3.1-0ubuntu0.9.04.2
  Version table:
 *** 3.12.3.1-0ubuntu0.9.04.2 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/main Packages
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 3.12.2~rc1-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages

$ apt-cache policy libnspr4-0d
libnspr4-0d:
  Installed: 4.7.5-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
  Candidate: 4.7.5-0ubuntu0.9.04.1
  Version table:
 *** 4.7.5-0ubuntu0.9.04.1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-updates/main Packages
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty-security/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 4.7.3-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages

Ref: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486537


I don't use Ubuntu. I use raw Debian. As for SeaMonkey package, I used 
the seamonkey-1.1.18.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz package from Mozilla's 
server since Debian dropped IceApe (aka SeaMonkey) a few months ago. :( 
I extracted it into /home/Programs/SeaMonkey.


For those above packages if they help at all, I saw:
$ apt-cache policy libnss3-1d
libnss3-1d:
  Installed: 3.12.3.1-1
  Candidate: 3.12.3.1-1
  Version table:
 *** 3.12.3.1-1 0
990 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 3.12.3.1-0lenny1 0
500 http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages
500 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages

$ apt-cache policy libnspr4-0d
libnspr4-0d:
  Installed: 4.8-1
  Candidate: 4.8-1
  Version table:
 *** 4.8-1 0
990 http://ftp.debian.org testing/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 4.7.1-4 0
500 http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages
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