Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
I fully agree with Moz Champion (Dan). F-PROT do not protect from attacks. I use Comodo firewall. For more than 10 years I havn't any intrusion. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting you fully in any case. An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality. For example; the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for the AV programs to do. So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus. So how to protect yourself? Simple. Do NOT open email attachments (opening email is fine, just not the attachments ) If you MUST open an attachment Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the attachment Do NOT open/run files from the web If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the file Use a firewall Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against all malware, regardless of how new it is. The above system has protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an infection (at least to me). Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a website, or is SM immune to those? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
flyguy wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting you fully in any case. An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality. For example; the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for the AV programs to do. So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus. So how to protect yourself? Simple. Do NOT open email attachments (opening email is fine, just not the attachments ) If you MUST open an attachment Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the attachment Do NOT open/run files from the web If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the file Use a firewall Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against all malware, regardless of how new it is. The above system has protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an infection (at least to me). Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a website, or is SM immune to those? [Tools--Options]*--Navigator--Downloads Either choose Open the download manager or open a process dialog in this manner you are kept informed at the very least. You should also have a set place to download to as well If a site attempts to download something, without asking first, then I would kill the download and leave said site. I would also report the site to its host. In any case, even if it does by some strange circumstance get downloaded then the rule still applies Do NOT open/run files from the web ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: flyguy wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting you fully in any case. An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality. For example; the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for the AV programs to do. So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus. So how to protect yourself? Simple. Do NOT open email attachments (opening email is fine, just not the attachments ) If you MUST open an attachment Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the attachment Do NOT open/run files from the web If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the file Use a firewall Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against all malware, regardless of how new it is. The above system has protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an infection (at least to me). Aren't you still vulnerable to drive-by downloads when visiting a website, or is SM immune to those? [Tools--Options]*--Navigator--Downloads Either choose Open the download manager or open a process dialog in this manner you are kept informed at the very least. You should also have a set place to download to as well If a site attempts to download something, without asking first, then I would kill the download and leave said site. I would also report the site to its host. In any case, even if it does by some strange circumstance get downloaded then the rule still applies Do NOT open/run files from the web Sorry, forgot the addendum *varies by OS Linux [Edit--Preferences] Mac [SeaMonkey--Preferences] Windows as above ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting you fully in any case. An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality. For example; the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for the AV programs to do. So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus. So how to protect yourself? Simple. Do NOT open email attachments (opening email is fine, just not the attachments ) If you MUST open an attachment Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the attachment Do NOT open/run files from the web If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the file Use a firewall Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against all malware, regardless of how new it is. The above system has protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an infection (at least to me). You can leave F-Prot off until you really need it, such as checking files/attachments just before opening or running after the week 'save' of course. Good consels in my AV, i can disable the Internet E-Mail Auto-Protect protection ... not really needed because the protection works before the run of something. (may be that the disabled check works only during the download of the e-mail and have noting to do with the current issue) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Bob Fleischer wrote: Moz Champion (Dan) wrote: Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. Well, turning off F-PROT's file system protection does indeed improve performance. Bob In that case I suggest leaving F-Prot off. It is not really protecting you fully in any case. An anti-virus program is only as good as its 'definintions' file is, and regardless of how often it is updated, that file lags behind reality. For example; the I Love You virus, which infected over 30 million users (biggest infestation in history) was checked by many with the latest and greatest AV programs, and came back 'clean'. NONE of the AV programs extant at the time could detect the virus until their definitions files were updated, and that took three to seven days for the AV programs to do. So, even with F-Prot running, and automatic updating, there is still a 3 to 7 day 'window' in which you are not protected against a 'new' virus. So how to protect yourself? Simple. Do NOT open email attachments (opening email is fine, just not the attachments ) If you MUST open an attachment Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the attachment Do NOT open/run files from the web If yoiu MUST open/run files from the web Save it to disk for a week Update your AV program, check the file Open/run the file Use a firewall Using such a system allows you to run, and be fully protected against all malware, regardless of how new it is. The above system has protected ALL my computers since 1992 and has never failed. It has also been used by hundreds of users I advised and they never reported an infection (at least to me). You can leave F-Prot off until you really need it, such as checking files/attachments just before opening or running after the week 'save' of course. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Mail performance problems
Bob Fleischer wrote: I have been running the latest releases of SeaMonkey (now 1.1.16) on what should be a rather hot system -- a Core 2 quad 3.0 GHz system running Vista Business 64-bit in 8 GB RAM.. SeaMonkey mail performance, especially anything moving messages between folders, is really slow (like several seconds to move a message). I've compressed folders and rebuilt indexes and no improvement. I'm using F-PROT anti-virus. CPU usage according to Task Manager is in the single-digit percentage range. I run SeaMonkey at home with larger folders on a much older system with better performance -- but it is Windows XP and different anti-virus. The system disk is defragmented frequently. What else do I check? Thanks, Bob Long shot, but try turning your anti-virus OFF completely and then moving messages... any improvement? Such a test can indicate if it is anti-virus program releated or not. You can disconnect from the internet when you make the test if you have a mind to although its not really neccessary. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
