Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[Alexander Yudenitsch]

George wrote, on 31 Jan 17 10:11:


I'm a user of Copernic Desktop Search.  It's frustrating that SeaMonkey
and Copernic don't co-exist.  Any chance of that changing? Or, does
SeaMonkey work on TEXT searches in emails with any other similar desktop
search apps?  The SeaMonkey built-in search is not user-friendly.


The SM Mail search is one of the main reasons I keep using SM; it may 
not be very 'user friendly', but it's the most powerful search I ever 
found -- and, a few years back I did look at Copernic, hoping to find a 
similarly powerful search for the all the contents of my system, but it 
appeared that, besides not doing that, it even didn't work with SM (only 
TB), so I stopped trying.


What I find most useful in SM Mail search is the ability to add "match 
all/match any" (usually the former) for an unlimited amount of 'logical 
rules' (like "subject contains X" AND "date is before 07/08/09" AND 
"body contains 'george'" AND "body does not contain 'mac'"), allowing me 
to usually pinpoint a specific message from over 10 years' worth, 
distributed in about 100 folders and sub-folders -- and that 'Boolean 
logic' is very rare among search engines of any type (I suppose it's not 
very user-friendly, but for me it's VERY useful).


Also, Copernic (like Windows itself) wants to index everything, which SM 
doesn't need to furnish quick and accurate search results.


I'd LOVE to find any 'general' search engines with characteristics 
similar to SM Mail Search, specially if it doesn't need indexing, but so 
far haven't found any.  Maybe there is 'more than one way to skin a 
cat', and I'm missing it?


--
Thanks beforehand for your attention, and I hope to hear from you soon.

s) Alexander Yudenitsch   



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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[George]

I do know of a workaround involving installing Thunderbird in addition 
to SeaMonkey.  Thinking about doing it...not sure if it's worth it. I 
know it did work years ago with Thunderbird 12, I think it was. Maybe.


Richmond wrote:

Maybe you could trick the software by creating a shortcut from the
Seamonkey mail to the Thunderbird mail. (Or is it from TB to SM?)


George  writes:


There's one thing I can doand I've been avoiding it as long as I
can...switch to Thunderbird.  I love SeaMonkey, but want to use
Copernic with my email.  Thanks for the response, Frank.

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Does it additionally use an add-on or is it a standalone product
only.  If standalone the program itself probably needs to be
changed. SeaMonkey uses the same folder structure and format as
Thunderbird. If the program recognizes only a TB profile nothing we
can do.

FRG

George wrote:

Richard, thanks for your response. My apologies for not going into
more detail about Copernic.  Here's a link to them, landing on a
list of files it will find...

http://www.copernic.com/en/products/desktop-search/file-types/

Notice it works with Thunderbird. When searching with Copernic,
you'll see an instant search result, regardless of the email folder.
SeaMonkey's search only works with one folder at a time.

What do I want that neither does nicely?  I'll have to think about
that I guess.  Take a look at the website.



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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[Richmond]

Maybe you could trick the software by creating a shortcut from the
Seamonkey mail to the Thunderbird mail. (Or is it from TB to SM?)


George  writes:

> There's one thing I can doand I've been avoiding it as long as I
> can...switch to Thunderbird.  I love SeaMonkey, but want to use
> Copernic with my email.  Thanks for the response, Frank.
>
> Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
>> Does it additionally use an add-on or is it a standalone product
>> only.  If standalone the program itself probably needs to be
>> changed. SeaMonkey uses the same folder structure and format as
>> Thunderbird. If the program recognizes only a TB profile nothing we
>> can do.
>>
>> FRG
>>
>> George wrote:
>>> Richard, thanks for your response. My apologies for not going into
>>> more detail about Copernic.  Here's a link to them, landing on a
>>> list of files it will find...
>>>
>>> http://www.copernic.com/en/products/desktop-search/file-types/
>>>
>>> Notice it works with Thunderbird. When searching with Copernic,
>>> you'll see an instant search result, regardless of the email folder.
>>> SeaMonkey's search only works with one folder at a time.
>>>
>>> What do I want that neither does nicely?  I'll have to think about
>>> that I guess.  Take a look at the website.
>>
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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[George]

There's one thing I can doand I've been avoiding it as long as I 
can...switch to Thunderbird.  I love SeaMonkey, but want to use Copernic 
with my email.  Thanks for the response, Frank.


Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Does it additionally use an add-on or is it a standalone product only.
If standalone the program itself probably needs to be changed. SeaMonkey
uses the same folder structure and format as Thunderbird. If the program
recognizes only a TB profile nothing we can do.

FRG

George wrote:

Richard, thanks for your response. My apologies for not going into
more detail about Copernic.  Here's a link to them, landing on a list
of files it will find...

http://www.copernic.com/en/products/desktop-search/file-types/

Notice it works with Thunderbird. When searching with Copernic, you'll
see an instant search result, regardless of the email folder.
SeaMonkey's search only works with one folder at a time.

What do I want that neither does nicely?  I'll have to think about
that I guess.  Take a look at the website.



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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Does it additionally use an add-on or is it a standalone product only. If 
standalone the program itself probably needs to be changed. SeaMonkey uses the 
same folder structure and format as Thunderbird. If the program recognizes 
only a TB profile nothing we can do.


FRG

George wrote:
Richard, thanks for your response. My apologies for not going into more detail 
about Copernic.  Here's a link to them, landing on a list of files it will 
find...


http://www.copernic.com/en/products/desktop-search/file-types/

Notice it works with Thunderbird. When searching with Copernic, you'll see an 
instant search result, regardless of the email folder. SeaMonkey's search only 
works with one folder at a time.


What do I want that neither does nicely?  I'll have to think about that I 
guess.  Take a look at the website.


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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[George]

Richard, thanks for your response. My apologies for not going into more 
detail about Copernic.  Here's a link to them, landing on a list of 
files it will find...


http://www.copernic.com/en/products/desktop-search/file-types/

Notice it works with Thunderbird. When searching with Copernic, you'll 
see an instant search result, regardless of the email folder. 
SeaMonkey's search only works with one folder at a time.


What do I want that neither does nicely?  I'll have to think about that 
I guess.  Take a look at the website.


Richard Owlett wrote:

On 01/31/2017 06:11 AM, George wrote:

I'm a user of Copernic Desktop Search.  It's frustrating that
SeaMonkey and Copernic don't co-exist.  Any chance of that
changing? Or, does SeaMonkey work on TEXT searches in emails with
any other similar desktop search apps?  The SeaMonkey built-in
search is not user-friendly.


I haven't used any Windows since XP and never looked at Copernic.
Looking at the first couple of hits I got on a search suggests it's a
member of a class of utilities that I didn't investigate.

I think you need to give us a better description of what you wish to
accomplish. I suspect the "how" may be as important as the "what". A
possible set of questions to answer:
  What do you like best/least about Copernic?
  What do you like best/least about SeaMonkey's search?
  What do you want that neither does nicely?
HTH


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Re: SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[Richard Owlett]

On 01/31/2017 06:11 AM, George wrote:

I'm a user of Copernic Desktop Search.  It's frustrating that
SeaMonkey and Copernic don't co-exist.  Any chance of that
changing? Or, does SeaMonkey work on TEXT searches in emails with
any other similar desktop search apps?  The SeaMonkey built-in
search is not user-friendly.


I haven't used any Windows since XP and never looked at Copernic.
Looking at the first couple of hits I got on a search suggests 
it's a member of a class of utilities that I didn't investigate.


I think you need to give us a better description of what you wish 
to accomplish. I suspect the "how" may be as important as the 
"what". A possible set of questions to answer:

  What do you like best/least about Copernic?
  What do you like best/least about SeaMonkey's search?
  What do you want that neither does nicely?
HTH

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SeaMonkey with Copernic search

[George]

I'm a user of Copernic Desktop Search.  It's frustrating that SeaMonkey 
and Copernic don't co-exist.  Any chance of that changing? Or, does 
SeaMonkey work on TEXT searches in emails with any other similar desktop 
search apps?  The SeaMonkey built-in search is not user-friendly.

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