Re: YouTube Problems

[Geoff Welsh]

EE wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I 
need.   With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session 
cookies.


How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting 
the setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.



I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions.  


That's really cool.  I never knew that was there.
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Re: YouTube Problems

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

EE wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I 
need.   With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session 
cookies.


How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting 
the setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.



I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions.  I am 
actually using a cookie manager extension (written for Firefox but run 
through the converter) that can make cookie permission exceptions for 
the site I am currently viewing.  I patched it so that it would also 
access cookieViewer.xul.




Interesting solutions.
My solution in Firefox is to have two profiles and two FF windows open. 
One has the "normal" settings and the second one is set to delete 
cookies and various other stuff when I close that window.  Rather clumsy 
but it works.


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Re: YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 4/20/2020 11:59 AM, EE wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> EE wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:
> Thomas Pamin wrote:
>> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
>> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
>> Edge. Any help?
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E
>
> I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
> YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
> Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/62.0
>
> You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
> probably does not matter much.
>

 Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
 cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
 setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
 SeaMonkey.

>>> I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I 
>>> need.   With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session 
>>> cookies.
>>>
>> How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting the 
>> setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.
>>
> I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
> You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions.  I am 
> actually using a cookie manager extension (written for Firefox but run 
> through the converter) that can make cookie permission exceptions for 
> the site I am currently viewing.  I patched it so that it would also 
> access cookieViewer.xul.
> 

I use the the Permissions Menu menu list in PrefBar.  This is NOT
inherent in the installed PrefBar.  Instead, you must download it from
 and import
it into PrefBar.  It provides the old way of managing cookies, popups,
images, and permissions for Web sites to install extensions and updates.

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the agency within the National Security Council tasked to
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Re: YouTube Problems

[NFN Smith]

EE wrote:
How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting 
the setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.



I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions.  I am 
actually using a cookie manager extension (written for Firefox but run 
through the converter) that can make cookie permission exceptions for 
the site I am currently viewing.  I patched it so that it would also 
access cookieViewer.xul.



I've found that bookmarking the cookieViewer is useful.  Although I 
normally flush my cookies at the end of a session, it's the fastest way 
of getting to cookie data quickly, and to me, the UI works better than 
going through the Data Manager.


Smith

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Re: YouTube Problems

[EE]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I 
need.   With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session 
cookies.


How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting the 
setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.



I bookmarked chrome://communicator/content/permissions/cookieViewer.xul
You can use that to make exceptions to cookie permissions.  I am 
actually using a cookie manager extension (written for Firefox but run 
through the converter) that can make cookie permission exceptions for 
the site I am currently viewing.  I patched it so that it would also 
access cookieViewer.xul.


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Re: YouTube Problems: Blank page shown instead of preview and suggestions list.

[Thomas Pamin]

Thomas Pamin wrote:

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Thomas Pamin schrieb:
Lots of blank pages and no video 


Hi,

REPRODUCIBLE with installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 
2.53.2 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200222130008 (Default Classic 
Theme, newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit AND: Modified 
User String "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:75.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/75.0". See 


But it's ok for me with default user string:


@Thomas:
Can you please try that page with newly created User Profile? That 
should work for YouTube without any problems.


Best regards

Rainer

So to use the default user string do you just delete the agent override 
string totally?
I reset the user override string to make it blank. And, now YouTube 
works, and also Instagram, which also was giving me blank pages!

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Re: YouTube Problems: Blank page shown instead of preview and suggestions list.

[Thomas Pamin]

Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

Thomas Pamin schrieb:
Lots of blank pages and no video 


Hi,

REPRODUCIBLE with installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 
2.53.2 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200222130008 (Default Classic Theme, 
newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit AND: Modified User 
String "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/75.0". See 


But it's ok for me with default user string:


@Thomas:
Can you please try that page with newly created User Profile? That 
should work for YouTube without any problems.


Best regards

Rainer

So to use the default user string do you just delete the agent override 
string totally?

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Re: YouTube Problems

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

EE wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I need. 
  With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session cookies.


How?  I used to do that until Firefox dropped the coding supporting the 
setting of Permissions and Seamonkey had to follow suit.


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Re: YouTube Problems

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

I default to blocking cookies and make exceptions for those that I need. 
 With sites I visit only occasionally, I limit them to session cookies.


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Re: YouTube Problems: Blank page shown instead of preview and suggestions list.

[Rainer Bielefeld]

Thomas Pamin schrieb:
Lots of blank pages and no video 


Hi,

REPRODUCIBLE with installation of unofficial (by wg9s) De SeaMonkey 
2.53.2 beta 1 pre Mozilla/5.0  (NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Build 20200222130008 (Default Classic Theme, 
newly created User Profile) on German WIN7 64bit AND: Modified User 
String "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:75.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/75.0". See 


But it's ok for me with default user string:


@Thomas:
Can you please try that page with newly created User Profile? That 
should work for YouTube without any problems.


Best regards

Rainer

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Re: YouTube Problems

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video icons. 
Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


Youtube is rolling out Polymer V2. Optimized for Chrome and only Chrome. 
Firefox works more or less. If you use youtube best use a Chromium based 
browser for it if you have problems.


We are working on backporting the needed fixes for Custom Elements but this 
takes time. Might even be impossible until 2.57.


FRG
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Re: YouTube Problems

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.



If you set SeaMonkey to accept cookies for the current session only will be 
the same without the risk of breaking somethin by marking databases read-only.


FRG
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Re: YouTube Problems

[What Ever]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/62.0

You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it
probably does not matter much.



Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites. Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only. The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.


SeaMonkey has settings available in the UI for that:

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Cookies
Cookie Retention Policy
(o) Accept cookies normally
(•) Accept for current session only
(o) Accept cookies for [nn] days

and

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | Private Data
Clear Private Data
[x] Always clear my private data when I close SeaMonkey
...
When I ask SeaMonkey to clear my private data, it should erase:
...
[x] Cookies

If you use these two settings, you can accept cookies from sites that 
require them without allowing them to persist past the end of the 
current session, and you don't have to remember to clear them because SM 
does so automatically whenever it terminates.


You can also set site-specific cookie-handling policies, as you know.
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Re: YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 4/18/2020 10:30 AM, EE wrote:
> Thomas Pamin wrote:
>> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
>> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
>> Edge. Any help?
>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E
> 
> I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for 
> YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
> Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/62.0
> 
> You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it 
> probably does not matter much.
> 

Rejecting cookies breaks some Web sites.  Instead, I makr the file
cookies.sqlite in my profile as read-only.  The Web server thinks it is
setting cookies, but those cookies are lost as soon as I terminate
SeaMonkey.

-- 
David E. Ross


Would the United States be more prepared to deal with COVID-19
if President Trump had not cut the budgets of the National
Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control
and Prevention (CDC)?  His administration also eliminated the
Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense,
the agency within the National Security Council tasked to
provide early warnings about epidemics and pandemics.
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Re: YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 4/17/2020 3:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


No problems in here with old and current/new YouTube.com web site design 
with and without "Advertise Firefox compatibility".

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Re: YouTube Problems

[EE]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I have media.autoplay.enable set to false.  I do not allow cookies for 
YouTube.  I use a user-agent override with YouTube.
Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:62.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/62.0


You might want to change the platform info for Windows, though it 
probably does not matter much.

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Re: YouTube Problems

[NFN Smith]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E



I'm not seeing problems with YouTube.  I know that checking/spoofing 
your User Agent settings has been suggested, I see from your post that 
you're already spoofing Firefox 68.  I don't think UA is the issue, and 
I'm inclined to believe that what's happening is somewhere in your user 
profile.


I suggest doing the following:

1) Clear your cache and cookies.

2) Try a restart in Safe Mode. Besides temporarily disabling extensions, 
that will reset a lot of your prefs to default. I have occasionally seen 
a one-off start in Safe Mode clear problems.  If problems return after 
Safe Mode, then chances are problems with one of your extensions.


3) Try a fresh profile.


Smith
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Re: YouTube Problems

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


I think it's your user-agent override.  From your mail header, I see:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0

If I set that as my user-agent, I get a mostly blank page at that URL.

With the default user-agent, it looks fine.  The layout is slightly 
different depending whether or not "Advertise Firefox compatibility" is 
enabled, but the content is there in either case.


It also looks OK if I use your user-agent, but with "Firefox/60.0" 
instead of "Firefox/68.0" - SeaMonkey 2.53.1 is based on Firefox 60, not 
68.  I'm guessing they're detecting that you have Firefox 68, and trying 
to use features which are not supported in the older version SeaMonkey 
is currently based on.  If you're still on SeaMonkey 2.49 series, you 
might need "Firefox/52.0", since that's the version SeaMonkey 2.49 is 
based on.


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Re: YouTube Problems

[WaltS48]

Thomas Pamin wrote:

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E

I'm still getting a blank page, after trying suggestions here.


Could it be due to your UA string? Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; 
x64; rv:73.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/73.0


Mine is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1


I'd try a new profile.
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Re: YouTube Problems

[Thomas Pamin]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E

I'm still getting a blank page, after trying suggestions here.
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Re: YouTube Problems

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On 4/17/2020 4:16 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 4/17/20 7:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 4/17/2020 3:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
>>> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
>>> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
>>> Edge. Any help?
>>> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E
>>>
>>
>> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
>>   SeaMonkey/2.49.5
>> "Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
>> Cookies for the requested Web site only
>> Popups blocked
>> Images from all domains enabled
>> HTML5 Media enabled
>> "When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always
>>  use the colors and background specified by the web page."
>>
>> Looks okay to me.  I see both text and images.  However, images are
>> initially blank and fill in only as I scroll.  After scrolling to the
>> bottom, the images remain.
>>
>> I selected one of the links.  The video and audio played.
>>
> 
> Which link?
> 

"Weather strategy for pilots: improve your preflight and inflight
decision making "

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Directorate for Global Health and Security and Bio-Defense,
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Re: YouTube Problems

[WaltS48]

On 4/17/20 6:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E


The page isn't blank for me.

The "How pilots can use flight simulators to stay current-webinar 
recording" start out with a lady mentioning something about the 
broadcast is now starting and all attending are in listen only mode and 
there is no video.


I don't think there are any videos as other items on that page just show 
a static image, and some have the same disclaimer about being in listen 
only mode.


SeaMonkey 2.53.1 with no extensions.

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Re: YouTube Problems

[WaltS48]

On 4/17/20 7:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/17/2020 3:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote:

YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on
Edge. Any help?
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E



Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
Images from all domains enabled
HTML5 Media enabled
"When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always
use the colors and background specified by the web page."

Looks okay to me.  I see both text and images.  However, images are
initially blank and fill in only as I scroll.  After scrolling to the
bottom, the images remain.

I selected one of the links.  The video and audio played.



Which link?

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Re: YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 4/17/2020 3:39 PM, Thomas Pamin wrote:
> YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
> icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
> Edge. Any help?
> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
 SeaMonkey/2.49.5
"Advertise Firefox compatibility" disabled
Cookies for the requested Web site only
Popups blocked
Images from all domains enabled
HTML5 Media enabled
"When a web page provides its own colors and background" set to "Always
use the colors and background specified by the web page."

Looks okay to me.  I see both text and images.  However, images are
initially blank and fill in only as I scroll.  After scrolling to the
bottom, the images remain.

I selected one of the links.  The video and audio played.

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YouTube Problems

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YouTube is still giving me issues. Lots of blank pages and no video 
icons. Here's the latest page that is blank on SM, but works fine on 
Edge. Any help?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL772AE94FA6BA3D6E
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/29/2020 9:30 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/28/2020 8:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
move up the list?

What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny



See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
step #3.




Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it
it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag
either. Do you have any idea why?



I just now tried it, and I was able to move a button by dragging it.  I
tried it again, specifically with the HTML5 Media checkbox; and I was
able to move it.

Oops!!  My error  You have to left-click on the item under Enabled
Items, not right-click.  As you drag the item, the cursor is an arrow;
you should see a small rectangular outline attached to the bottom of the
arrow.  The destination of the item will at the point of the arrow when
you release the left mouse button.

NOTE:  You can also drag from Available Items to Enabled Items or
vice-versa.



Thank you for you help in this matter! Left click and dragging does
nothing, whether I'm in the Available Items or Enabled Items, nothing
ever follows the the mouse pointer. I can right click and get the
context menu for edit,coy, delete and so-forth. Left click only
highlights that selection.

Any ideas,

Danny




When you highlight the item by left-clicking, do not release the left
mouse button.  You should then be able to drag the item.




I have resolved the problem! I upgraded PrefBar from Version 7.0.1 to 
Version 7.1.1. I can now drag and drop items in the list and move them.


Thank you for your help,

Danny


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/29/2020 9:30 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/28/2020 8:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
move up the list?

What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny



See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
step #3.




Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it
it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag
either. Do you have any idea why?



I just now tried it, and I was able to move a button by dragging it.  I
tried it again, specifically with the HTML5 Media checkbox; and I was
able to move it.

Oops!!  My error  You have to left-click on the item under Enabled
Items, not right-click.  As you drag the item, the cursor is an arrow;
you should see a small rectangular outline attached to the bottom of the
arrow.  The destination of the item will at the point of the arrow when
you release the left mouse button.

NOTE:  You can also drag from Available Items to Enabled Items or
vice-versa.



Thank you for you help in this matter! Left click and dragging does
nothing, whether I'm in the Available Items or Enabled Items, nothing
ever follows the the mouse pointer. I can right click and get the
context menu for edit,coy, delete and so-forth. Left click only
highlights that selection.

Any ideas,

Danny




When you highlight the item by left-clicking, do not release the left
mouse button.  You should then be able to drag the item.



I know how drag and drop works, it just does not do it. What I need is a 
resolution to why it does not work.


Thank you for your help,

Danny



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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/29/2020 9:30 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/28/2020 8:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:
>>>
 On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:

> David E. Ross wrote:
>
>> I believe the preference variable is
>>  media.autoplay.enabled
>> If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.
>>
>> At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does 
>> seem
>> to work.
>
> That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
> still be
> a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There 
> are a few
> sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even 
> after you
> click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button 
> to
> toggle the setting.

 By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is 
 a
 video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
 checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
 video plays.
>>>
>>> How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
>>> that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
>>> the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?
>>>
>>
>> It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
>> checkboxes is easy.
>>
>> If you want my checkbox, do the following:
>>
>> 1.  Go to .
>>
>> 2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
>> the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
>> you want to download the file.
>>
>> 3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
>> in the pull-down context menu.
>>
>> 4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
>> window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
>> pull-down context menu.
>>
>> 5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
>> HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.
>>
>> 6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
>> list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
>> will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.
>>
>> With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
>> checkmark, it is disabled.
>>
>> After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
>> HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
>> remove the file from my Web site.
>>
>
> I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
> everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
> move up the list?
>
> What am I overlooking?
>
> Thank you,
> Danny
>

 See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
 step #3.


>>>
>>> Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it
>>> it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag
>>> either. Do you have any idea why?
>>>
>>
>> I just now tried it, and I was able to move a button by dragging it.  I
>> tried it again, specifically with the HTML5 Media checkbox; and I was
>> able to move it.
>>
>> Oops!!  My error  You have to left-click on the item under Enabled
>> Items, not right-click.  As you drag the item, the cursor is an arrow;
>> you should see a small rectangular outline attached to the bottom of the
>> arrow.  The destination of the item will at the point of the arrow when
>> you release the left mouse button.
>>
>> NOTE:  You can also drag from Available Items to Enabled Items or
>> vice-versa.
>>
> 
> Thank you for you help in this matter! Left click and dragging does 
> nothing, whether I'm in the Available Items or Enabled Items, nothing 
> ever follows the the mouse pointer. I can right click and get the 
> context menu for edit,coy, delete and so-forth. Left click only 
> highlights that selection.
> 
> Any ideas,
> 
> Danny
> 
> 

When you highlight the item by left-clicking, do not release the left
mouse button.  You should then be able to drag the item.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/28/2020 8:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
move up the list?

What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny



See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
step #3.




Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it
it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag
either. Do you have any idea why?



I just now tried it, and I was able to move a button by dragging it.  I
tried it again, specifically with the HTML5 Media checkbox; and I was
able to move it.

Oops!!  My error  You have to left-click on the item under Enabled
Items, not right-click.  As you drag the item, the cursor is an arrow;
you should see a small rectangular outline attached to the bottom of the
arrow.  The destination of the item will at the point of the arrow when
you release the left mouse button.

NOTE:  You can also drag from Available Items to Enabled Items or
vice-versa.



Thank you for you help in this matter! Left click and dragging does 
nothing, whether I'm in the Available Items or Enabled Items, nothing 
ever follows the the mouse pointer. I can right click and get the 
context menu for edit,coy, delete and so-forth. Left click only 
highlights that selection.


Any ideas,

Danny


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/28/2020 8:42 AM, Danny Kile wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:
>
>> On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:
>>
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>>
 I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
 If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

 At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
 to work.
>>>
>>> That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
>>> still be
>>> a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There 
>>> are a few
>>> sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even 
>>> after you
>>> click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
>>> toggle the setting.
>>
>> By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
>> video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
>> checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
>> video plays.
>
> How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
> that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
> the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?
>

 It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
 checkboxes is easy.

 If you want my checkbox, do the following:

 1.  Go to .

 2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
 the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
 you want to download the file.

 3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
 in the pull-down context menu.

 4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
 window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
 pull-down context menu.

 5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
 HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

 6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
 list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
 will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

 With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
 checkmark, it is disabled.

 After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
 HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
 remove the file from my Web site.

>>>
>>> I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
>>> everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
>>> move up the list?
>>>
>>> What am I overlooking?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Danny
>>>
>>
>> See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
>> step #3.
>>
>>
> 
> Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it 
> it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag 
> either. Do you have any idea why?
> 

I just now tried it, and I was able to move a button by dragging it.  I
tried it again, specifically with the HTML5 Media checkbox; and I was
able to move it.

Oops!!  My error  You have to left-click on the item under Enabled
Items, not right-click.  As you drag the item, the cursor is an arrow;
you should see a small rectangular outline attached to the bottom of the
arrow.  The destination of the item will at the point of the arrow when
you release the left mouse button.

NOTE:  You can also drag from Available Items to Enabled Items or
vice-versa.

-- 
David E. Ross


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I
move up the list?

What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny



See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
step #3.




Yes, I saw that but though I misunderstood, because when I click on it 
it will not drag. If I click on any of the other they will not drag 
either. Do you have any idea why?

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/27/2020 3:03 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:
>>> David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:
>>>
 On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:

> David E. Ross wrote:
>
>> I believe the preference variable is
>>  media.autoplay.enabled
>> If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.
>>
>> At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
>> to work.
>
> That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
> still be
> a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are 
> a few
> sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after 
> you
> click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
> toggle the setting.

 By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
 video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
 checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
 video plays.
>>>
>>> How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
>>> that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
>>> the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?
>>>
>>
>> It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
>> checkboxes is easy.
>>
>> If you want my checkbox, do the following:
>>
>> 1.  Go to .
>>
>> 2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
>> the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
>> you want to download the file.
>>
>> 3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
>> in the pull-down context menu.
>>
>> 4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
>> window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
>> pull-down context menu.
>>
>> 5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
>> HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.
>>
>> 6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
>> list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
>> will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.
>>
>> With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
>> checkmark, it is disabled.
>>
>> After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
>> HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
>> remove the file from my Web site.
>>
> 
> I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and 
> everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I 
> move up the list?
> 
> What am I overlooking?
> 
> Thank you,
> Danny
> 

See my step #6.  You do that in the PrefBar window that was launched in
step #3.


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Autoplay on/off is in the preferences of 2.53.1 b1 preferences (was: Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems)

[Paul Bergsagel]

If you are running SeaMonkey 2.53.1 b1 you can easily turn autoplay 
using the preferences.  Open Preferences and click on Appearance->Media 
and uncheck the box "Enable Autoplay of HTML5 media content".


alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There 
are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even 
after you

click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have 
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at 
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?




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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and 
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I 
move up the list?


What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny




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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[alexyu]

Hi, David E. Ross! Thanks for writing, on 27 Feb 20 02:00:


On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:


David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?


It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.


It's been a long time since I changed anything in my PrefBar, but I do 
know about its possibilities; by the way you described it, I didn't know 
if this was a 'PrefBar standard option' which I had neglected to add, or 
one added later (in this case, I now know, by yourself).


Thanks also for your generous offer:


If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.


As I said, it's been years since I last customized PrefBar, so I didn't 
even remember where my 'PrefBar addons' were stored.  Turns out I had a 
folder named "PrefBar Buttons"... with none for video, as was to be 
expected.



3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.


I've added your "HTML5_media.btn"; I suppose none of the other files in 
your "(http://www.rossde.com/)test" folder have anything to do with 
this, so I left them alone; thanks once more.


After a 'trip down memory lane', I remembered that I do have an 
installed extension for this, but it's been ages since I last saw it in 
use; it's "YouTube Flash Video Player" 54.0.1, from Baris Derin; It 
offers 2 options, "HTML5 Video Player" & "Flash Video Player", but I 
don't remember if there's some way to toggle them without opening the 
addon's Options, which makes it rather inconvenient (and is probably why 
I forgot about it); as far as I can recall, during a phase, some time 
ago, I did try both options and, not noticing any significant change, 
dropped the matter.


My "media.autoplay.enabled" Pref is set to 'false', but the addon option 
is set to "HTML5 Video Player", so I don't know what SM makes of that; 
possibly, the Pref has precedence, which might explain why I didn't 
notice any difference when switching the options...


I currently use the "Video Downloader Professional" 1.97.37.1 extension 
(for video downloads, natch, but it doesn't always work for YouTube); 
previously, I used "Video Downloader Helper", but some time ago switched 
to the current one.  However, when it can't DL a video, good old "Clip 
Grab" usually saves the day.


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:
> 
>> On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:
>>
>>> David E. Ross wrote:
>>>
 I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
 If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

 At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
 to work.
>>>
>>> That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still 
>>> be
>>> a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a 
>>> few
>>> sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after 
>>> you
>>> click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
>>> toggle the setting.
>>
>> By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
>> video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
>> checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
>> video plays.
> 
> How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have 
> that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at 
> the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?
> 

It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.

-- 
David E. Ross


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[EE]

alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have that 
option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at the time of 
installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?


I have an extension called Autoplay Toggle which provides me with a toolbar 
button to toggle autoplay.  It is still on the Thunderbird addons site.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/autoplay-toggle-nonrestartless

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[alexyu]

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have 
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at 
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> I believe the preference variable is
>>  media.autoplay.enabled
>> If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.
>>
>> At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
>> to work.
> 
> That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still 
> be 
> a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a 
> few 
> sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you 
> click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to 
> toggle the setting.
> 

By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.

With media.autoplay.enabled set to false, I just now loaded a YouTube
Web page with Bizet's L'Arlésienne Suites No. 1 & No. 2.  There was no
button to start the video.  I then changed media.autoplay.enabled to
true, but there still was no way to play the video.  The video started
after I reloaded the Web page; at that point, buttons did appear.

-- 
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[EE]

David E. Ross wrote:

I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be 
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few 
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you 
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to 
toggle the setting.


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[NFN Smith]

Danny Kile wrote:


Issue was resolved by restoring a backup copy of my user profile file. I 
have no idea why this all started with an upgrade to Adobe Flash Player.


Thank you for those that replied,



Glad to see that it's working again.

Going one step further, I think chances are pretty high that you don't 
need Flash at all, and it's likely to be safe to uninstall entirely.


I removed Flash a couple of years ago, and I've only seen a couple of 
sites that complain about Flash not being available, and they're not 
ones that I care about delivering video content.  I've had no problems 
at all with YouTube and not having Flash installed.


With proprietary video players, I've found that it's generally best to 
uninstall everything, unless you know that you have specific need for 
one. If you encounter a site that requires a specific player, they'll be 
quick to let you know (and generally offer you a link for a download). 
But until you know you need a specific player, you don't need it.


If the only reason that you have Flash is for YouTube, I suggest that 
you uninstall it.  One less potential security issue, and one less thing 
that you have to maintain with timely updates.


Smith

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


Issue was resolved by restoring a backup copy of my user profile file. I 
have no idea why this all started with an upgrade to Adobe Flash Player.


Thank you for those that replied,

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

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On 2/24/2020 11:29 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


OK. Yeah, I have both of those. I use PrefBar to toggle between. I hope 
I can do the same in v2.53 and newer versions.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/24/2020 10:07 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Danny Kile wrote:
>>> I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is
>>>
>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0
>>>
>>> I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
>>> Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
>>> broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.
>>>
>>> When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
>>> new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
>>> knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.
>>>
>>> It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
>>> you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
>>> the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
>>> are gray.
>>>
>>> I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
>>> What course of action do I need to take here?
>>>
>>> Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
>>> same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
>>> over.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.
>>>
>>> Danny,
>>
>> If it were me I would try some other UA.
>> If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
>> If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
>> I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.
> 
> I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.
> 

I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.

-- 
David E. Ross


Beyond Meat and other such vegetarian meat substitutes
represent the ultimate in ultra-processed foods.  Real
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ant wrote:

On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All 
of the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they 
to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.


I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.


Oh!  That must have been one of the changes between 2.49.3 and .5
Thanks for the heads up.  Either that or I added it.
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.


I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 8:31 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

 > Anyways, my updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others 
use HTML5 for videos.



Where are the setting to to disable Flash and the use HTML5 instead?


Hmm, I don't think YouTube uses Flash anymore. Can you try a brand new 
SeaMonkey profile (Profile Manager shortcut in W7's Start Menu) and see 
if you still have this problem?

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

Ant wrote:
I have a similar setup, but noticed your SM's UA is different compared 
to my "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5). Why is your Firefox at v69 and not its 
default v52 and Windows NT6.1? Did you change its UA? Anyways, my 
updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others use HTML5 for 
videos. I rarely use Flash these days unless the web sites require it.



On 2/24/2020 6:59 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

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I change my UA for Firefox/52.0.


> Anyways, my updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others 
use HTML5 for videos.



Where are the setting to to disable Flash and the use HTML5 instead?


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

I have a similar setup, but noticed your SM's UA is different compared 
to my "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5). Why is your Firefox at v69 and not its 
default v52 and Windows NT6.1? Did you change its UA? Anyways, my 
updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others use HTML5 for 
videos. I rarely use Flash these days unless the web sites require it.



On 2/24/2020 6:59 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

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Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,
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Re: youtube problems

[alex zuber]

On Wednesday, July 31, 2019 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-4, Ronnie wrote:
> seems seamonkey is having issues when it comes to replying to 
> notfications/messages within youtube... if you click the bell... then go 
> to take a look at the reply you can't scroll particularly if there 
> are lots of comments/replies to a particular post.

Most times it will not support.
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youtube problems

[Ronnie]

seems seamonkey is having issues when it comes to replying to 
notfications/messages within youtube... if you click the bell... then go 
to take a look at the reply you can't scroll particularly if there 
are lots of comments/replies to a particular post.

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Re: YouTube problems?

[GerardJan]

Are you using linux? ¿ what type ?

sincerely

Ant wrote:

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

erwincas a écrit :

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Carden wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.


maybe it's pefbar...



I use PrefBar and the videos play fine.

for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and recently 
I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of flash video




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Re: YouTube problems?

[Ant]

On 7/6/2011 5:56 AM PT, George Carden typed:


Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.


No problems in my old SM v2.0.14 with the updated/latest PrefBar, 
FlashBlock, AdBlock Plus, Flash, etc. in my old, updated Windows XP Pro. 
SP3 home PC and 64-bit W7 HP work PC. Both embedded and on youtube.com. :)

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Re: YouTube problems?

[JD]

cyberzen wrote:

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

erwincas a écrit :

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.


maybe it's pefbar...



I use PrefBar and the videos play fine.


for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and
recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of
flash video



Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash 
but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1, 
WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723


From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a 
different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only 
problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar. 
Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore.


In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins

File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll

When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to 
the SM plugins folder:


C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins

With SM2, that folder is empty.

From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14.

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Re: YouTube problems?

[cyberzen]

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

erwincas a écrit :

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly?
They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.


maybe it's pefbar...



I use PrefBar and the videos play fine.


for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and
recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of
flash video



Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash
but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1,
WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723

 From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a
different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only
problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar.
Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore.

In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins

File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll

you are right it was there...


When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to
the SM plugins folder:

C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins

With SM2, that folder is empty.

 From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14.



I decided to put it there :
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\NPSWF32.dll

thank you for explaining those clues for flash and prefbar..
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Re: YouTube problems?

[JD]

cyberzen wrote:

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

JD a écrit :

cyberzen wrote:

erwincas a écrit :

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly?
They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.


maybe it's pefbar...



I use PrefBar and the videos play fine.


for me prefbar caused crashes in flash the first time I used it, and
recently I installed it one more time, it caused blind square instead of
flash video



Now that you mention it, I used to have a problem with PrefBar and Flash
but SM2 seems to have fixed that. For the record, I'm using SM 2.1,
WinXPSP3, PrefBar v. 5.1.1, build date 20100723

From my notes, in earlier versions of SM, Prefbar looked for Flash in a
different location than where Flash installed the plugin. The only
problem that created was I couldn't turn Flash on and off using Prefbar.
Like I said, I don't have that problem anymore.

In SM2.1, check the location of your Flash plugin. About:Plugins

File: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Macromed\Flash\NPSWF32.dll

you are right it was there...


When I had the problem, I had to move the Flash plugin, NPSWF32.dll to
the SM plugins folder:

C:\Documents and Settings\UserName\Application Data\Mozilla\plugins

With SM2, that folder is empty.

From your Header, it appears you're using SM 2.0.14.



I decided to put it there :
C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\plugins\NPSWF32.dll

thank you for explaining those clues for flash and prefbar..


You're welcome.

Did it help?

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YouTube problems?

[George Carden]

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They 
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me 
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.


Thanx.
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Re: YouTube problems?

[WLS]

George Carden wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Play fine for me in SM 2.2.
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Re: YouTube problems?

[PhillipJones]

George Carden wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works for Me.

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Re: YouTube problems?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

George Carden wrote:


Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly?
They don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes
me wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.


WFM. Vids play first time, every time, without delay.

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Re: YouTube problems?

[erwincas]

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Carden cardboa...@comcast.net wrote:
 Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
 don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
 wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

 Thanx.

Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2,  Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.
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Re: YouTube problems?

[JD]

cyberzen wrote:

erwincas a écrit :

On Jul 6, 6:56 am, George Cardencardboa...@comcast.net wrote:

Any idea why YouTube videos would not play in SeaMonkey suddenly? They
don't do a thing. They play fine in IE. This kind of thing makes me
wanna pull (the rest of) my hair out.

Thanx.


Works fine here with SM 2.2b3, WinXp Pro Sp2, Shockwave Flash 10.2
r159.

Chech your Add-Ons.


maybe it's pefbar...



I use PrefBar and the videos play fine.

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