Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[Jens Hatlak]

D. K. Kraft wrote:

As I've said before, trying to find out if current behavior for SM 2
is filed as a bug is very difficult. My search keywords of "seamonkey
2 news server settings" have not yielded anything helpful from
Bugzilla.


Unfortunately Bugzilla is not intelligent enough to understand that 
search query. :-( The search form on the bugzilla.mozilla.org main page 
searches all open bugs of all Mozilla products, i.e. Firefox, 
Thunderbird, SeaMonkey, ... To limit the search scope to SeaMonkey you 
need to use the search page available from the "Search existing bug 
reports" link. Select Product SeaMonkey there and use only 
problem-specific words (hint: use strings like error messages, dialog 
titles etc.) to fill in the Words field, leaving out both the product 
name and the product version (those are stored in places where the Words 
query will not find them, if at all).


In this case, instead of searching for "seamonkey 2 news server 
settings" you should have searched for "ask me before downloading".


Again, unfortunately, you would not even have found the relevant bug 
using that method because... SeaMonkey's mail and news component shares 
a fair amount of code with Thunderbird (and the browser component with 
Firefox) so if a bug affects both products it is often discussed in a 
single bug that is not necessarily filed on the product you're using. 
Thus in this case you would have had to also do two more searches, one 
with Product set to Thunderbird and one with Product set to MailNews 
Core. You could have used Advanced Search to run only one search against 
all three "products" but the form there is much more complex.


I understand that the above is not feasible for an average user. I guess 
only searching SeaMonkey bugs is probably enough. If you find no 
matching bug that way, filing a new one is OK even if it's later 
duplicated against another like in this case.


BTW: When a bug filed against one product is duplicated against a bug 
from another product it becomes invisible to searches with Status = 
Open. I think that's bad but have no easy solution either. Maybe bugs 
duplicated against other products should be included in Status = Open 
searches. :-/


HTH

Jens

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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[Hartmut Figge]

NoOp:

>Thanks. I've added my confirmation on the bug report for linux.

I remembered an old posting from me regarding this problem. This was
from 30.5.2009, so the regression was prior. Therefore i should also
confirm and mention this date. Sigh.

Hartmut
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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[NoOp]

On 10/22/2009 03:11 PM, D. K. Kraft wrote:
> With patience akin to a cat's, NoOp, on 10/22/2009 2:14 PM typed:
...
>> And confirmed on:
>> Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
>> Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0
>> 
>> D.K. Please file a bug report as I can't find one already filed.
> 
> Buggo been filed:  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523958
> Hopefully the fix isn't a headache, because this is a bit of a show-stopper
> for me with SM 2.0.  Probably not as weighty for those not frequently using
> newsgroups.
> 
> Thanks for the feedback, fellow SM users.  Appreciate it --

Thanks. I've added my confirmation on the bug report for linux.

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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[D. K. Kraft]

With patience akin to a cat's, NoOp, on 10/22/2009 2:14 PM typed:

On 10/22/2009 01:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

D. K. Kraft:


Specifically, SM 2 doesn't keep the server setting for "Ask me before
downloading [500] messages."  This is the case for every news server on my
list (I have two free news servers, the Mozilla news server, and two other
private servers).  Steps to reproduce:  go into Server Settings for a given
news server, check the above described option, click OK.  Upon reentering the
Server Settings, the option does not remain checked.


Yes, that's even true for my current nightly.

Hartmut


And confirmed on:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0

D.K. Please file a bug report as I can't find one already filed.


Buggo been filed:  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523958
Hopefully the fix isn't a headache, because this is a bit of a show-stopper
for me with SM 2.0.  Probably not as weighty for those not frequently using
newsgroups.

Thanks for the feedback, fellow SM users.  Appreciate it --
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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[NoOp]

On 10/22/2009 01:30 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
> D. K. Kraft:
> 
>>Specifically, SM 2 doesn't keep the server setting for "Ask me before
>>downloading [500] messages."  This is the case for every news server on my
>>list (I have two free news servers, the Mozilla news server, and two other
>>private servers).  Steps to reproduce:  go into Server Settings for a given
>>news server, check the above described option, click OK.  Upon reentering the
>>Server Settings, the option does not remain checked.
> 
> Yes, that's even true for my current nightly.
> 
> Hartmut

And confirmed on:
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.4)
Gecko/20091017 Lightning/1.0pre SeaMonkey/2.0

D.K. Please file a bug report as I can't find one already filed.

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Re: SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[Hartmut Figge]

D. K. Kraft:

>Specifically, SM 2 doesn't keep the server setting for "Ask me before
>downloading [500] messages."  This is the case for every news server on my
>list (I have two free news servers, the Mozilla news server, and two other
>private servers).  Steps to reproduce:  go into Server Settings for a given
>news server, check the above described option, click OK.  Upon reentering the
>Server Settings, the option does not remain checked.

Yes, that's even true for my current nightly.

Hartmut
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SM 2.0 RC2: News server setttings don't hold

[D. K. Kraft]

Testing SM 2.0 RC2 with a migrated profile from 1.1.18, Win XP Pro SP3:

Specifically, SM 2 doesn't keep the server setting for "Ask me before
downloading [500] messages."  This is the case for every news server on my
list (I have two free news servers, the Mozilla news server, and two other
private servers).  Steps to reproduce:  go into Server Settings for a given
news server, check the above described option, click OK.  Upon reentering the
Server Settings, the option does not remain checked.

As I've said before, trying to find out if current behavior for SM 2 is filed
as a bug is very difficult.  My search keywords of "seamonkey 2 news server
settings" have not yielded anything helpful from Bugzilla.  If a bug has been
filed and someone has the specific listing for it, I would greatly appreciate
it.  Likewise, if someone else has experienced or is experiencing the same
behavior, I'd like to know.

TIA for any feedback --
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