Re: [freenet-support] reseed
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 08:13, Robert Greenage wrote: Today was the first time I did not lose any node references. Lose may be an incorrect term but if I cannot find something it is then lost. Reseeding did not cause the loss. I had 117 at midnight , I had 10 or so in the morning. My box was off overnight as I do not have a broadband connection. .I did not/ do not wipe the RT.Also no ARK sequence number has arrived. This was up around 117 when I had to reformat. Also the logs look very strange. Any thoughts or should I just shut up and accept that what I have been given? When you say you had to reformat, I presume you mean you shutdown and switched off your computer? Reformatting means that you clear everything off the hard drive and have to re-install your operating system and all your programs. You have two problems that I can see: 1) If you are using a dial-up modem, you should have a smaller number for the outputBandwidthLimit parameter in your configuration file. The default of 12288 (bytes per second) is for broadband connections with an upload speed of 256kbits/sec. For a 56K modem connection, you should use a value of around 4000. 2) Whenever you startup a freenet node, it will take some time to learn the network again. For the first hour you will probably only be able to access very popular content. For this reason, Freenet isn't very useful to modem users at the moment, but the problems are being worked on! -Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
I am sorry I thought I had it switched to plain text.I will never do that again.Apparently according to Kevin Steen my dialup is the root of all my problems.I'll wait to use freenet again until I can get a broadband connection. [Original Message] From: Toad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Greenage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/20/04 3:41:43 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] reseed Please in future do not send HTML mail to the list. Certainly not with tons of spacer gifs attached. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
On Fri, Aug 20, 2004 at 12:17:52PM +, Robert Greenage wrote: I did remove everything from the HDD. I used fdisk,wrote to zero,reformatted the hd, reinstalled the OS and all the programs that had been on there that I could salvage.Freenet was not one I could salvage.So when I reinstalled it with ver. 9091 I would reseed . After I turned the box off(no broadband) I lost all the node references that I had just installed from the reseed. I had 117 or so node references at midnight and in the am I had between 7 and 20. Since you state that my lack of broadband is the problem I'll discontinue using freenet until such time as I do have it. Thanks for the help. Ah, I see. Okay, modem nodes will probably not work especially well. Whether they can ever work acceptably would be an interesting topic for research. [Original Message] From: Kevin Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/20/04 5:16:10 PM Subject: Re: [freenet-support] reseed On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 08:13, Robert Greenage wrote: Today was the first time I did not lose any node references. Lose may be an incorrect term but if I cannot find something it is then lost. Reseeding did not cause the loss. I had 117 at midnight , I had 10 or so in the morning. My box was off overnight as I do not have a broadband connection. .I did not/ do not wipe the RT.Also no ARK sequence number has arrived. This was up around 117 when I had to reformat. Also the logs look very strange. Any thoughts or should I just shut up and accept that what I have been given? When you say you had to reformat, I presume you mean you shutdown and switched off your computer? Reformatting means that you clear everything off the hard drive and have to re-install your operating system and all your programs. You have two problems that I can see: 1) If you are using a dial-up modem, you should have a smaller number for the outputBandwidthLimit parameter in your configuration file. The default of 12288 (bytes per second) is for broadband connections with an upload speed of 256kbits/sec. For a 56K modem connection, you should use a value of around 4000. 2) Whenever you startup a freenet node, it will take some time to learn the network again. For the first hour you will probably only be able to access very popular content. For this reason, Freenet isn't very useful to modem users at the moment, but the problems are being worked on! -Kevin ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[freenet-support] reseed
just an FYI to Kevin Steen, Jay Oliveri and Toad. Prior to the reformat I was using ver. 5090 and I had no problems at all accessing anything I wanted to . Freenet was working perfectly. It was only after the reformat that my current problems began. I do not think it is in any way related 5091 or my modem as there were no problems prior. I am using the same hardware, the same software etc. as before when I could get freenet to work. I am convinced that if I made the appropriate changes in default.ini and / or in freenet.ini my problems would be solved. The big however, is that I am not sure what changes I should make. So maybe you are correct Kevin when you say that broadband would help. I just don't know. --- Robert Greenage --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- EarthLink: It's your Internet. ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
Quoting Kevin Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2) Whenever you startup a freenet node, it will take some time to learn the network again. For the first hour you will probably only be able to access very popular content. For this reason, Freenet isn't very useful to modem users at the moment, but the problems are being worked on! This isn't true. For one thing, there've been people on this list who use dial-up, and claim that it works just fine. For another thing, the node doesn't have to re-learn the network every time it starts. There may be a minor, two or three minute, delay in functioning, but not the hours that learning takes. Logically, re-learning is only necessary when the actual state of the network is different than the what's in the nodes routing table. Most of the nodes that are going to be in a node's routing table are the ones that are useful. The ones that are useful are the larger, more permanent nodes run by broadband users with some dedication to the project, yes? Those nodes don't change that often. My node runs pretty close to 24/7. I doubt the problem above is due (directly) to the node being on a modem line. As long as the node is given a few hours to run once in a while it should be fine. Never as good as a broadband node, but not useless. As Robert wrote, the node worked fine before. -todd ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
On Fri, 2004-08-20 at 18:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Kevin Steen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2) Whenever you startup a freenet node, it will take some time to learn the network again. For the first hour you will probably only be able to access very popular content. For this reason, Freenet isn't very useful to modem users at the moment, but the problems are being worked on! This isn't true. For one thing, there've been people on this list who use dial-up, and claim that it works just fine. Thanks for trying to win back any modem users I may have scared away! I'm happy to hear that freenet does work for modem users. Logically, re-learning is only necessary when the actual state of the network is different than the what's in the nodes routing table. Most of the nodes that are going to be in a node's routing table are the ones that are useful. The ones that are useful are the larger, more permanent nodes run by broadband users with some dedication to the project, yes? Those nodes don't change that often. My node runs pretty close to 24/7. My node also runs 24/7, but as a result it is always overloaded and doesn't accept new connections very often. Thus I conclude that any node which disconnects is going to have a hard time reconnecting to the network that it knew, and so it will need to re-learn. -Kevin signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
On Thursday 19 August 2004 02:51 am, Robert Greenage wrote: Here is what the node reference status looks like this morning.Last night when I shut the machine down ( I do not have broadband) I had 120 known routing nodes. Is there something I need to change in the config? Connections with Successful Transfers 0 Backed off nodes 6 ^^^ Connection Attempts 113 Successful Connections 7 0 transfers? Are you behind a firewall? If so, did you map the right port from the firewall to your machine running Freenet? What version of Java are you running? What OS and version? Lotsa questions.. -- Jay Oliveri GnuPG ID: 0x5AA5DD54 FCPTools Maintainer www.sf.net/users/joliveri ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freenet-support] reseed
On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 06:10:11PM +, Robert Greenage wrote: Following a reformat of the HDD and a reinstallation of the OS I also had to reinstall freenet. Subsequently I must reseed every time I turn the machine on and start freenet (I don't have broadband) . This never happened prior to the OS reinstall. Is there something I need to change in the Flaunch.ini? Also I used to get overwhelmed with logs and now nothing logs? Eh? What do you mean...? You must reseed? Why? -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Support mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://dodo.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
