Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On Sat, 26 Apr 2014 23:53:25 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: Running threads: 346/500 So, now we're getting closer to the problem. That is way too high. Session Total Input: 6.25 MiB (2.99 KiB/s average) Session Total Output: 1.44 MiB (707 B/s average) How long was your node up for, roughly? Sounds like a short time -- which would make those 346 threads a glaring bug. Threads: ... Running: 33 (5) ... Running: 223 (7) We gotta find out what those threads are. You can do that in the Statistcs page http://localhost:/stats/ ... what are the top few rows in the Thread usage list? Also, it would probably be very helpful to get a thread dump with the Generate a Thread Dump button, which will dump a detailed list of those 346 threads, and the current state that they're in. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
If you can, try to disable your firewall for a while, at least to test things. They have been the cause of many mysterious networking issues for me. On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:40:59 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: I did indeed get back onto the IRC last night. How would I check for the centralized seed node health and what's the easiest way to get that information and the rejection reasons? On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.comwrote: On 04/11/2014 09:17 PM, Dennis New wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:36:35 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: After 3 days of trying to get Freenet to work, I continue to run into the same issue. As soon as I log onto freenet, it goes through its usual Wait a few minutes while we set up and get connected, you should be connected 24/7 and all that. Well I never end up connecting to anyone, or if I do, I max out at around 3 or 4 and then I lose my connection to them in a few minutes. When I look at the status, they're more often than not busy, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't browse around. The proper ports are open, the firewall is welcoming the program with open arms, and I've lost too much sleep trying to get this to work. Here's the wrapper.log. I don't know what other information you'll need, so I'm hoping it's enough. http://code.bulix.org/pk192u-86010 That link seems broken now (404 error). I'm guessing the Max strangers that you should be connected to is 8? What version are you running? And, in Status Internet connection, does it say that your UDP Opennet port is forwarded? I think Daniel just came back into IRC saying the problem persists. This machine is on wireless, though with no measurable packet loss (with ping) and an exception in the firewall for Java. Maybe excessive jitter? I'm not sure what else to recommend checking. I know antivirus can frequently do odd things, like corrupt files when they're downloaded in a misguided attempt to clean them. I don't see what problem it might be introducing here - it sounds like more of a networking problem. Centralized seed node health stats would be useful right about now. That and logged rejection reasons from the seed nodes. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:44:27 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: [...] when I try to get to the Connections to Strangers listing while under advanced mode, it takes forever for it to get to that page (anywhere from 5 min - 30 min), and sometimes it doesn't even load it. There are times when I can't go through the different main menus for some reason. It just sits there waiting for a response, and attempting to click the link again or reloading the page only helps once in a while. [...] Yeeea, forget what I said earlier about the firewall. What's your CPU usage when freenet gets into this hung/slow state? Maybe include your http://localhost:/diagnostic/ info, which shows things like how many Running threads you have, and other useful stuff. (I don't think there's much of a privacy risk to paste that here, except perhaps the top OS version stuff.) Also your strangers/ page in advanced mode, http://localhost:/strangers/?fproxyAdvancedMode=2 might tell you the Peer backoff reasons, but it sounds like it's something local with your machine. From my experience, I've noticed that IO (harddrive reading/writing) is usually the bottleneck. I'm not sure what the equivalent of vmstat is for MSWindow$ -- something that can show how much your system is reading/writing from/to disk. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On 04/11/2014 09:17 PM, Dennis New wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:36:35 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: After 3 days of trying to get Freenet to work, I continue to run into the same issue. As soon as I log onto freenet, it goes through its usual Wait a few minutes while we set up and get connected, you should be connected 24/7 and all that. Well I never end up connecting to anyone, or if I do, I max out at around 3 or 4 and then I lose my connection to them in a few minutes. When I look at the status, they're more often than not busy, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't browse around. The proper ports are open, the firewall is welcoming the program with open arms, and I've lost too much sleep trying to get this to work. Here's the wrapper.log. I don't know what other information you'll need, so I'm hoping it's enough. http://code.bulix.org/pk192u-86010 That link seems broken now (404 error). I'm guessing the Max strangers that you should be connected to is 8? What version are you running? And, in Status Internet connection, does it say that your UDP Opennet port is forwarded? I think Daniel just came back into IRC saying the problem persists. This machine is on wireless, though with no measurable packet loss (with ping) and an exception in the firewall for Java. Maybe excessive jitter? I'm not sure what else to recommend checking. I know antivirus can frequently do odd things, like corrupt files when they're downloaded in a misguided attempt to clean them. I don't see what problem it might be introducing here - it sounds like more of a networking problem. Centralized seed node health stats would be useful right about now. That and logged rejection reasons from the seed nodes. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
I did indeed get back onto the IRC last night. How would I check for the centralized seed node health and what's the easiest way to get that information and the rejection reasons? On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Steve Dougherty st...@asksteved.comwrote: On 04/11/2014 09:17 PM, Dennis New wrote: On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:36:35 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: After 3 days of trying to get Freenet to work, I continue to run into the same issue. As soon as I log onto freenet, it goes through its usual Wait a few minutes while we set up and get connected, you should be connected 24/7 and all that. Well I never end up connecting to anyone, or if I do, I max out at around 3 or 4 and then I lose my connection to them in a few minutes. When I look at the status, they're more often than not busy, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't browse around. The proper ports are open, the firewall is welcoming the program with open arms, and I've lost too much sleep trying to get this to work. Here's the wrapper.log. I don't know what other information you'll need, so I'm hoping it's enough. http://code.bulix.org/pk192u-86010 That link seems broken now (404 error). I'm guessing the Max strangers that you should be connected to is 8? What version are you running? And, in Status Internet connection, does it say that your UDP Opennet port is forwarded? I think Daniel just came back into IRC saying the problem persists. This machine is on wireless, though with no measurable packet loss (with ping) and an exception in the firewall for Java. Maybe excessive jitter? I'm not sure what else to recommend checking. I know antivirus can frequently do odd things, like corrupt files when they're downloaded in a misguided attempt to clean them. I don't see what problem it might be introducing here - it sounds like more of a networking problem. Centralized seed node health stats would be useful right about now. That and logged rejection reasons from the seed nodes. ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On 04/25/2014 12:40 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: I did indeed get back onto the IRC last night. How would I check for the centralized seed node health and what's the easiest way to get that information and the rejection reasons? There aren't centralized seed node stats or rejection reasons as far as I know. I'm saying they should exist - as in I hope to write them - because a problem like yours should give far more diagnostics and we have no idea how loaded the seed nodes are. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
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Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On 04/25/2014 05:44 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: Fair enough. So right now I'm just kind of in limbo right now? I mean I can try to scrounge through and get what information I can, but when I try to get to the Connections to Strangers listing while under advanced mode, it takes forever for it to get to that page (anywhere from 5 min - 30 min), and sometimes it doesn't even load it. There are times when I can't go through the different main menus for some reason. It just sits there waiting for a response, and attempting to click the link again or reloading the page only helps once in a while. I'm not willing to give Woah now - there's some new and very surprising information. I've never heard of such incredible slowness, and that problem is not due to the inability to connect to strangers. It isn't trying to load anything remote for these pages - this is something local to your machine. I suspect such slowness may be the _cause_ of the inability to connect to strangers. up on getting this to work, but I really have no idea what information I can give you guys at this point to help me with this problem. What machine are you trying to run this on? Does it have a reasonable amount of free RAM / CPU / storage? How big is your datastore? What are Freenet's memory and bandwidth limits set to? On 4/25/2014 4:27 PM, Steve Dougherty wrote: On 04/25/2014 12:40 PM, Daniel Brown wrote: I did indeed get back onto the IRC last night. How would I check for the centralized seed node health and what's the easiest way to get that information and the rejection reasons? There aren't centralized seed node stats or rejection reasons as far as I know. I'm saying they should exist - as in I hope to write them - because a problem like yours should give far more diagnostics and we have no idea how loaded the seed nodes are. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
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Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
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Re: [freenet-support] Cannot keep a connection to seeders or other strangers on Opennet
On Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:36:35 -0500, Daniel Brown wrote: After 3 days of trying to get Freenet to work, I continue to run into the same issue. As soon as I log onto freenet, it goes through its usual Wait a few minutes while we set up and get connected, you should be connected 24/7 and all that. Well I never end up connecting to anyone, or if I do, I max out at around 3 or 4 and then I lose my connection to them in a few minutes. When I look at the status, they're more often than not busy, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't browse around. The proper ports are open, the firewall is welcoming the program with open arms, and I've lost too much sleep trying to get this to work. Here's the wrapper.log. I don't know what other information you'll need, so I'm hoping it's enough. http://code.bulix.org/pk192u-86010 That link seems broken now (404 error). I'm guessing the Max strangers that you should be connected to is 8? What version are you running? And, in Status Internet connection, does it say that your UDP Opennet port is forwarded? ___ Support mailing list Support@freenetproject.org http://news.gmane.org/gmane.network.freenet.support Unsubscribe at http://emu.freenetproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/support Or mailto:support-requ...@freenetproject.org?subject=unsubscribe
