Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-12 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2017-01-10, Stefan Schreiber wrote: I came basically to the same conclusions. (AAC implementation possible, some MP3 "hack" maybe...) But to implement this, you or I or anybody would need the (detailled) format specifications. It'd take a fair amount of digging, but

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-11 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-10, Stefan Schreiber wrote: I came basically to the same conclusions. (AAC implementation possible, some MP3 "hack" maybe...) But to implement this, you or I or anybody would need the (detailled) format specifications. It'd take a fair amount of digging, but I think I have all of t

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
I am extremely jealous !! But its good to hear some firsthand experience with them ha snice things to say - I have my eye on them for a couple of projects. On 10 January 2017 at 13:20, Kees de Visser wrote: > Nice speakers indeed! We use them for stereo monitoring in the Luxembourg > Philharmoni

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Andrew
: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 At 17:18 07-01-17, Richard Lee wrote: >> One broadcast I recall was a play based upon Alice in Wonderland entitled > >"Alice's Adventures In Wonderland". > I must be missing something subtle concerning the change

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread David Pickett
At 17:18 07-01-17, Richard Lee wrote: >> One broadcast I recall was a play based upon Alice in Wonderland entitled > >"Alice's Adventures In Wonderland". > I must be missing something subtle concerning the change in the title (Is it the capital I?)... David

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Alan Varty
Many thanks indeed Geoffrey for that clarification. Alan -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Barton Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:45 AM To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Message: 10 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:42:43 - From: &

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Richard
Very interesting > I think I am correct in saying the BBC (H) and NRDC (45j) decided to > co-operate rather than have yet another two competing systems on > the 4-channel scene which at the time already had CD-4, UD-4, SQ and > QS in the arena. BBC/NRDC each modified their encoding "towards" > e

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Kees de Visser
Nice speakers indeed! We use them for stereo monitoring in the Luxembourg Philharmonie. Unfortunately the control room is too small to accommodate 5 so we use small Neumanns for 5.1. I hope to find time this year to do some Auro testing. Kees de Visser > On 10 Jan 2017, at 11:13, Augustine Leud

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Geoffrey Barton
> > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:42:43 - > From: "Alan Varty" > To: "Surround Sound discussion group" > Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 > Message-ID: <26495940C1B04DA6B9C600AD83F69931@AlanPC> > Conten

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Dave Malham
On 10 January 2017 at 03:13, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > > Funnily, Gerzon also built up another hierachy of sorts, incompatible with > UHJ. That's the frontal stereo one for early HDTV work. I never understood > why he didn't bring it under the ambisonic compatibility fold. > AFAIR, this was a "poli

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
If you fancy drooling over speakers - Id say these would be very nice : https://www.strictlystereo.com/shop-online/kii-three-active-speakers On 10 January 2017 at 10:12, Augustine Leudar wrote: > Is there a good UHJ VST plugin you can put in a DAW ? I tried one the > other day hoping it would

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Augustine Leudar
Is there a good UHJ VST plugin you can put in a DAW ? I tried one the other day hoping it would fill the room with warm spherical ambience and magically create sounds well outsid ethe two speakers - but instead it just removed most of the low frequencies On 10 January 2017 at 03:47, Sampo Syre

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-10 Thread Alan Varty
lled it HJ. Alan -Original Message- From: Sampo Syreeni Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:58 AM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 On 2017-01-09, Alan Varty wrote: It was repeated several times over a period of about 12 mo

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
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Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-10, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: For UHJ I have experienced about +20 degrees outside of the speakers. I've only heard well-decoded UHJ or the "super-stereo" effect once (thanks to Eero Aro). But even then I can confirm that even the undecoded stereo goes well beyond the speaker positi

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: - Backward-compatible (to stereo) forms of Ambisonics are very probably possible. They are not "probably possible". That's what the BHJ version of UHJ *is*. Yes. But you still have to put L/R + 1 or 2 ext. channels into some <

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: - Backward-compatible (to stereo) forms of Ambisonics are very probably possible. They are not "probably possible". That's what the BHJ version of UHJ *is*. Yes. But you still have to put L/R + 1 or 2 ext. channels into some < stereo MP3 or AAC file.

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: Not really simply because binaural is meant for headphones - transaural is meant to be the binaural equivalent for loudspeakers. If you think about it - our ears have their own transfer function - the filter would have to be tailored to our own HRTFs to remove our HRTF f

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-09, Alan Varty wrote: It was repeated several times over a period of about 12 months or so and advertised as being either QUAD or MATRIX-H and eventually HJ in Radio Times. Tell me/us, is any of this H-stuff available anywhere? Has anybody tried decoding it via the usual UHJ machi

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-09, Augustine Leudar wrote: Hi Stefan - yes I have a set of soundman ones which Ive use don and off for the last ten years - I have really weird shaped ears though so my recordings dont work well on people with normal shaped heads ;) BTW, I have to second that. I have pretty normal

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: The critique I'd have for such panning laws is that they don't really respect the ambisonic/Gerzon theory, especially at the low frequencies. Stereophonic panning laws are based on Blumlein's stereo theory, which in Wittek's opin

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
For UHJ I have experienced about +20 degrees outside of the speakers. But then my speakers are a bit unusual, they are phase linear, if I play back square waves I get recognisable square waves if using a small diameter Omni microphone :-) Bo-Erik On 9 Jan 2017 22:18, "Augustine Leudar" wrote: No

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: The critique I'd have for such panning laws is that they don't really respect the ambisonic/Gerzon theory, especially at the low frequencies. Stereophonic panning laws are based on Blumlein's stereo theory, which in Wittek's opinion is pretty close to s

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Groups
I doubt it. That links to a 1966 video by Jonathan Miller which will only have mono sound! Bill Taylor On 09/01/2017 21:21, Augustine Leudar wrote: - will this have the quad audio ? It makes me wonder if Delia Derbyshire or any of the Radiophonic workshop did any quad stuff - now that I

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
- will this have the quad audio ? It makes me wonder if Delia Derbyshire or any of the Radiophonic workshop did any quad stuff - now that I would love to hear ! On 9 January 2017 at 20:38, Paul Hodges wrote: > --On 09 January 2017 19:45 + Augustine Leudar > wrote: > > > Is it perhaps a

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
Not really simply because binaural is meant for headphones - transaural is meant to be the binaural equivalent for loudspeakers. If you think about it - our ears have their own transfer function - the filter would have to be tailored to our own HRTFs to remove our HRTF filtering. I suppose you cou

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 09 January 2017 19:45 + Augustine Leudar wrote: > Is it perhaps available here ? Paul -- Paul Hodges ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/list

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: Hi Stefan - yes I have a set of soundman ones which Ive use don and off for the last ten years - I have really weird shaped ears though so my recordings dont work well on people with normal shaped heads ;) Do they use some form of filter to get the spectral balance for

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Alan Varty
ry 9, 2017 4:33 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Most likely this broadcast Alan; I wonder if Transcription Services still have the tape!? Note the reference to the 'Quadraphon' :-) From

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
Hi Stefan - yes I have a set of soundman ones which Ive use don and off for the last ten years - I have really weird shaped ears though so my recordings dont work well on people with normal shaped heads ;) On 9 January 2017 at 16:41, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Augustine Leudar wrote: > > Yes i ju

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
> Music Conducted By: Carl Davis > Recording by: Adrian Revill. > Director: Ian Cotterell > > > Cheers, > Andrew Birt > > > ----Original message---- > From : alan.va...@talktalk.net > The Monday Play: Alice&#x

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 06:27:15AM +0200, Sampo Syreeni wrote: > Basically VBAP (vector base amplitude panning) is a form of equal > power weighted amplitude panning. Just as your normal stereo panning > law would be, only it's in 3D, over widely varying speaker geometry. VBAP is the 3D form of p

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: Yes i just mean - when making a 3D sound installation you can use various types of panning round a sphere (or whatever of speaker array). You seemed to be saying ambisonics had a clear advantage over other types of panning for 3D audio - I was just wondering what you saw

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread g...@btinternet.com
ucted By: Carl Davis Recording by: Adrian Revill. Director: Ian Cotterell Cheers, Andrew Birt Original message >From : alan.va...@talktalk.net The Monday Play: Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Date : 05/01/17 - 11

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
Yes i just mean - when making a 3D sound installation you can use various types of panning round a sphere (or whatever of speaker array). You seemed to be saying ambisonics had a clear advantage over other types of panning for 3D audio - I was just wondering what you saw as ambisonics' advantages o

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Eero Aro
Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: I have head from guys at swedish radio that the Finland radio corporation have done a lot of Ambisonic recordings Yes. I did. Some of my colleagues were a little interested, but as the chicken and egg situation only continued, the interest slowly dropped. No decoders,

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
I have head from guys at swedish radio that the Finland radio corporation have done a lot of Ambisonic recordings and still continued to do so. http://labs.plan8.se/ambisonics-webplayer/ Here is a FOA binaural Web based player that you can use in chrome on most platforms. If a number of things fal

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: Sorry, correction: "I must again ask: What does "vbap" actually mean in your question?" etc. It refers to Ville Pulkki's dissertation at Aalto University (then Helsinki University of Technology, fi: Teknillinen korkeakoulu). h

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sampo Syreeni wrote: - Backward-compatible (to stereo) forms of Ambisonics are very probably possible. They are not "probably possible". That's what the BHJ version of UHJ *is*. Yes. But you still have to put L/R + 1 or 2 ext. channels into some < stereo > MP3 or AAC file. Our aim wou

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-09, Stefan Schreiber wrote: Sorry, correction: "I must again ask: What does "vbap" actually mean in your question?" etc. It refers to Ville Pulkki's dissertation at Aalto University (then Helsinki University of Technology, fi: Teknillinen korkeakoulu). http://lib.tkk.fi/Diss/20

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Sorry, correction: "I must again ask: What does "vbap" actually mean in your question?" etc. Best, St. ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or option

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-07, Stefan Schreiber wrote: - If the listener doesn't use some decoder, UHJ is listened to as < stereo >. (You are delivering surround sound, but the listener actually doesn't notice.) Actually se does notice. That's because UHJ was rather well designed to be a compatibility forma

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: Spatial audio is as doused snakeoil as the hifi world. I find this view a bit one-sided. At least this should not be related to our discussion... Sound localisation is not a purely subjective affair - I didn't claim this. have there been any listening tests whic

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Augustine Leudar
Spatial audio is as doused snakeoil as the hifi world. Sound localisation is not a purely subjective affair - have there been any listening tests which demosntrate binaural rendering is capable of creating anything like headphone spatialisation over two stereo loudspeakers ? I highly doubt it.Anyw

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: modern binaural recordings I've heard on speakers did not give excellent results they gave terrible results, aside from the fact the transfer functions are messed up by room reflections and cross talk it doesn't even work perfectly on headphones due to differences in indi

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Dave Malham wrote: Oh, good grief! I did it as well - a typo of a typo! The date should nineteen seventy-seven. That's 1977 or MCMLXXVII or... Dave Why not compromising on MCMLXXXVII?One X more or less... :-) On 8 January 2017 at 12:04, Dave Malham wrote: I was puzzled a

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Augustine Leudar wrote: <> modern binaural recordings I've heard on speakers did not give excellent results they gave terrible results, aside from the fact the transfer functions are messed up by room reflections and cross talk Fair enough. But it seems that opinions about this seem to be va

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Dave Malham
Oh, good grief! I did it as well - a typo of a typo! The date should nineteen seventy-seven. That's 1977 or MCMLXXVII or... Dave On 8 January 2017 at 12:04, Dave Malham wrote: > I was puzzled at first as to why (or even how!) BBC Matrix H would have > been used in 1997 but then I realised i

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Dave Malham
I was puzzled at first as to why (or even how!) BBC Matrix H would have been used in 1997 but then I realised it was a typo for 1997 :-) Dave On 8 January 2017 at 04:35, Bob Burton wrote: > 1997 "The year had started and finished with Mike (Oldfield) collaborating > with David Bedford. To fi

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-08 Thread Augustine Leudar
modern binaural recordings I've heard on speakers did not give excellent results they gave terrible results, aside from the fact the transfer functions are messed up by room reflections and cross talk it doesn't even work perfectly on headphones due to differences in individual hrtfs. Transaural i

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Bob Burton
1997 "The year had started and finished with Mike (Oldfield) collaborating with David Bedford. To finish the year Mike played on the title track on Bedford's 5th studio LPInstructions for Angels (V2090). Surprisingly, the track on which Mike appeared was recorded live at Worcester Cathedral on the

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Stefan Schreiber wrote: Paul Hodges wrote: --On 07 January 2017 18:55 + Stefan Schreiber wrote: - If the listener doesn't use some decoder, UHJ is listened to as *stereo*. (You are delivering surround sound, but the listener actually doesn't notice.) I have used it for a commer

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Paul Hodges wrote: --On 07 January 2017 18:55 + Stefan Schreiber wrote: - If the listener doesn't use some decoder, UHJ is listened to as *stereo*. (You are delivering surround sound, but the listener actually doesn't notice.) I have used it for a commercial job for precisely th

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 07 January 2017 18:55 + Stefan Schreiber wrote: > - If the listener doesn't use some decoder, UHJ is listened to as > *stereo*. (You are delivering surround sound, but the listener > actually doesn't notice.) I have used it for a commercial job for precisely that purpose. I had to reco

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Richard Lee wrote: If anyone has recordings of any of this Matrix H, HJ, UHJ stuff, please post a copy on http://ambisonia.com/ with a good description of what it is and the circumstances. I don't think UHJ is dead yet as the biggest present market for music is 2 channel stuff for headphone

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-07 Thread Richard Lee
If anyone has recordings of any of this Matrix H, HJ, UHJ stuff, please post a copy on http://ambisonia.com/ with a good description of what it is and the circumstances. I don't think UHJ is dead yet as the biggest present market for music is 2 channel stuff for headphones and UHJ gives excell

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-06 Thread Eero Aro
Martin Leese wrote: > (The archive of Wireless World issues is awesome.) Actually, the WW part is only a fraction. I was flabbercasted when I hit the "Home" link on that page. http://www.americanradiohistory.com/index.htm There's hundreds of other magazines as well, and more... Now, this is

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-05, Martin Leese wrote: This looks like the following Wireless World two-page article: Surround sound decoders - 5 Variomatrix adaptor for System 45J and Matrix H Phase shift circuit allows Variomatrix to decode Matrix H and System 45J by Michael A. Gerzon, M.A., Mathematical Institu

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Martin Leese
On 1/5/17, Martin Leese wrote: > "Alan Varty" wrote: >> Hello Eero. >> >> I cannot remember which issues contained the schematics for the Matrix-H >> only variomatrix decoder, sorry. > > This looks like the following Wireless World > two-page article: > > Surround sound decoders - 5 > Vari

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Martin Leese
"Alan Varty" wrote: > Hello Eero. > > I cannot remember which issues contained the schematics for the Matrix-H > only variomatrix decoder, sorry. This looks like the following Wireless World two-page article: Surround sound decoders - 5 Variomatrix adaptor for System 45J and Matri

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Alan Varty wrote: Hello Eero. I cannot remember which issues contained the schematics for the Matrix-H only variomatrix decoder, sorry. Later, there were some simple mods to change from H to HJ. Then, along came the Integrex linear decoder

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
Hello Stefan. See attachment. Alan -Original Message- From: Stefan Schreiber Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 4:27 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Alan Varty wrote: Hello Eero. I cannot remember which issues conta

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Eero Aro
Thanks Sampo Yes, it is a Firefox issue. There are several other pages in the same file that show blank. Works ok with Opera. Didn't check others. The downloaded file is also ok and shows fine with Acrobat Reader. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Surso

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread g...@btinternet.com
Strange Eero, plays ok on my machine. Attached the page for you as pdf Andrew Original message >From : eero@dlc.fi Date : 05/01/17 - 16:37 (GMTST) To : sursound@music.vt.edu Subject : Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 > It can be downloaded her

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-05, Eero Aro wrote: But Aaargh! Page 54, that should have the schematic diagram, is blank white! Actually it only shows white on my Firefox's internal PDF viewer. Viewed in a current version of Acrobat Reader DC, it works just fine. :) -- Sampo Syr

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread g...@btinternet.com
Also IBA technical reviews can be accessed here http://www.ntlpa.org.uk/memorabilia Courtesy of the NTL Pension Association ! Regards Andrew Original message >From : st...@mail.telepac.pt Date : 05/01/17 - 16:27 (GMTST) To : sursound@music.vt.edu Subject : Re: [Sursound] The

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Eero Aro
It can be downloaded here:- http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Wireless_World_Magazine.htm Andrew What a great resource! Thanks for the link. The schematic would be in the 1976 September issue: Heller, D: Surround Sound Decoders Pts 3 and 4. QS Variomatrix Wireless World 82 (1488-9) pp. 57-

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Alan Varty wrote: Hello Eero. I cannot remember which issues contained the schematics for the Matrix-H only variomatrix decoder, sorry. Later, there were some simple mods to change from H to HJ. Then, along came the Integrex linear decoder with shelf filters and multi-system selection butt

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2017-01-05, Andrew wrote: It can be downloaded here:-http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Wireless_World_Magazine.htm Nice! Are we aware of other WW articles germaine to ambisonic and/or closely related quadraphonic systems? I think I should save any additional ones as well, to be include

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
found in IBA Technical Review No. 17 of March 1982. Alan -Original Message- From: Eero Aro Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 1:57 PM To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Many thanks indeed Eero. You are welcome. Actually

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Andrew
] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 > Many thanks indeed Eero. You are welcome. Actually, is the WW article with the practical schematics this one mentioned in the refrences: Heller, D: Surround Sound Decoders Pts 3 and 4. QS Variomatrix Wireless World 82 (1488-9) pp. 57-59 August, and pp

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Eero Aro
Many thanks indeed Eero. You are welcome. Actually, is the WW article with the practical schematics this one mentioned in the refrences: Heller, D: Surround Sound Decoders Pts 3 and 4. QS Variomatrix Wireless World 82 (1488-9) pp. 57-59 August, and pp. 53-56, September 1976 ? I have never s

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
Many thanks indeed Eero. 73 Alan -Original Message- From: Eero Aro Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:56 PM To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Hi In the Motherlode: http://tinyurl.com/gl67hy3 Should be in the BBC history site as

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Eero Aro
Hi In the Motherlode: http://tinyurl.com/gl67hy3 Should be in the BBC history site as well. Eero ex OH2BLC :-) 5.1.2017, 14:51, Alan Varty kirjoitti: Hello Andrew, Yes it was. I seem to recall the BBC had to get permission from Sansui to allow the use their Variomatrix chipset for H. At t

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
[Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 Was that the design published in 'Wireless World' Alan? Best regards Andrew Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Alan Varty Date: 05/01/2017 11:19 (GMT+00:00) To: Surround Sound discussion group Su

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Andrew
Was that the design published in 'Wireless World' Alan? Best regards Andrew Sent from my Samsung device Original message From: Alan Varty Date: 05/01/2017 11:19 (GMT+00:00) To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadr

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Frans van den Berge
ng to this play on BBC Radio 3/4 several times, great stuff. All the very best, Alan -Original Message- From: Andrew Sent: Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:32 AM To: Tim Boissaud-Cooke ; Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 I stil

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Varty
Boissaud-Cooke ; Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 I still have some off-air recordings of the BBC's Matrix H system. Never tried to decode them but they have a pleasing surround sensation when listened to on headphones. Must have been th

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Andrew
ssage From: Tim Boissaud-Cooke Date: 04/01/2017 21:49 (GMT+00:00) To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973 A link to the beginnings of quadrophony & broadcasting from 1973. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/archive/pdffile

Re: [Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-05 Thread Rev Tony Newnham
Hi This looks interesting. I remember listening to a couple of trial broadcasts in the early/mid 1970's. As an imporverished student, I only managed mono for the rears and a borrowed stereo receiver for the front channels. Interesting though. Every Blessing Tony On 04/01/2017 21:49, Ti

[Sursound] The BBC & Quadrophony in 1973

2017-01-04 Thread Tim Boissaud-Cooke
A link to the beginnings of quadrophony & broadcasting from 1973. http://downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/archive/pdffiles/engineering/bbc_engineering_94.pdf There are many other related articles if you search the site. All the best for 2017 Tim BC -- next part -- An HTML att