Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-25 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:25:01PM -0700, Aaron Heller wrote: > Note that while AmbDec can accommodate FuMa normalization on input, it > still makes the connections to jack in ACN order so the inputs will often > appear in Jack in ACN order (and never in FuMa order). More precisely, the jack

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Aaron Heller
dio/dis-mpeg-h-3d-audio >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > >> > --Richard >> > >> > >> > > -Original Message- >> > > From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of >> > > Sönke Pelzer >> > &g

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Aaron Heller
From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > > > Sönke Pelzer > > > Sent: 24 March 2016 11:55 > > > To: Surround Sound discussion group > > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion > > > > > > Hi Aaron, > >

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Aaron Heller
.vt.edu] On Behalf Of > > Sönke Pelzer > > Sent: 24 March 2016 11:55 > > To: Surround Sound discussion group > > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion > > > > Hi Aaron, > > > > I looked up some recent MPEG-H papers, but co

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Richard Furse
iscussion group > Subject: Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion > > Hi Aaron, > > I looked up some recent MPEG-H papers, but couldn't find information about > their HOA channel ordering and normalization scheme. > Could you please point me to these? > > Thank you, >

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Sönke Pelzer
Hi Aaron, I looked up some recent MPEG-H papers, but couldn't find information about their HOA channel ordering and normalization scheme. Could you please point me to these? Thank you, Sönke 2016-03-24 7:25 GMT+01:00 Aaron Heller : > Martin, > > Note that while AmbDec can

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Aaron Heller
Make that "compiled to VST"... http://faust.grame.fr/onlinecompiler/ On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM, Aaron Heller wrote: > Martin, > > Note that while AmbDec can accommodate FuMa normalization on input, it > still makes the connections to jack in ACN order so the inputs

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-24 Thread Aaron Heller
Martin, Note that while AmbDec can accommodate FuMa normalization on input, it still makes the connections to jack in ACN order so the inputs will often appear in Jack in ACN order (and never in FuMa order). I say "often" because the Jack API does not have any notion of the 'order' of an

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-23 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/23/2016 10:30 PM, Dave Malham wrote: Hi Martin (and Eric!), One very simple thing I would do, before doing anything else, with any system that's playing, as we say, silly bu..ers, is just to play a well localisable sound out of each speaker (on its own) in turn and check that (a)

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-23 Thread Dave Malham
Hi Martin (and Eric!), One very simple thing I would do, before doing anything else, with any system that's playing, as we say, silly bu..ers, is just to play a well localisable sound out of each speaker (on its own) in turn and check that (a) it's coming out of the speaker it should (all

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-23 Thread Eric Benjamin
"In both cases the sound was coming from seemingly random places, and a number of positions went practically silent." What is needed, not just for you, but for everyone, is a comprehensive set of test files. It may be that your loudspeakers aren't where the system thinks they are (wrong speaker

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Matthias Kronlachner
Hi, there is a preset for this in ambix_converter: ".amb / AMB plugins (full periphonic) / Tetraproc -> ambix". Greets, Matthias On 22/03/16 20:01, Steven Backer wrote: Hi Martin, If you’re already using ambiX, you might try looking at inserting the ambix_converter_o3 plugin between the

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Martin Dupras
Thank you all for the very helpful tips. I will try those things tomorrow. - martin On 22 March 2016 at 18:49, Martin Dupras wrote: > Today I tried playback sources in third order Ambisonics on a 8+6+1 > hemispheric speaker array using Reaper. It didn't quite work as >

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 06:49:10PM +, Martin Dupras wrote: > I then tried to run 16 outputs out of Reaper into Jack, and from Jack > into AmbDec, again using my ADT-calculated coefficients. I understand > that AmbDec uses the Furse-Malham convention, so I would have thought > it was

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/22/2016 07:49 PM, Martin Dupras wrote: Today I tried playback sources in third order Ambisonics on a 8+6+1 hemispheric speaker array using Reaper. It didn't quite work as intended so I'm trying to figure out where I've gone wrong. I was using the Blue Ripple TOA-Core panner plugin to

Re: [Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Steven Backer
Hi Martin, If you’re already using ambiX, you might try looking at inserting the ambix_converter_o3 plugin between the TOACore outputs and the decoder inputs. It can easily take care of the conversion for you. Note that in addition to channel ordering you also need to convert the

[Sursound] Furse-Malham to ACN conversion

2016-03-22 Thread Martin Dupras
Today I tried playback sources in third order Ambisonics on a 8+6+1 hemispheric speaker array using Reaper. It didn't quite work as intended so I'm trying to figure out where I've gone wrong. I was using the Blue Ripple TOA-Core panner plugin to position the sound. I understand that Blue Rippler