Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-11 Thread Michael Chapman
> Thanks to Albert I found: "A Perl script that that 'corrects' the headers on Wave Format Extensible files." It won't solve Aaron's problem, but could be modified. Michael ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Politis Archontis
> That would be wonderful to have a HOA version of this. I had searched on > your website for the tool to make it myself, but the page doesn't load > http://mchapman.com/amb/soft/positions/ > > Regards, > > Albert Hi, is that any different from opening up Reaper or any other DAW with some

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Albert Leusink
> > Stefan > > Happy to have mine used (with usual academic courtesies ...). > (It's on ambisonia, or I can send. > Am working on a HOA version ...) > > Michael > > Hello Michael, That would be wonderful to have a HOA version of this. I had searched on your website for the tool to make

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Marc Lavallee
On Tue, 10 May 2016 13:57:36 -0700 Eric Benjamin wrote: > When I recorded Haley Jo's lovely voice for the original eight > directions, I also recorded her announcing other directions. > Unfortunately I wasn't prescient enough to record every conceivable > direction. I wonder

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Eric Benjamin
When I recorded Haley Jo's lovely voice for the original eight directions, I also recorded her announcing other directions. Unfortunately I wasn't prescient enough to record every conceivable direction. I wonder what would be a good announcement for half height positions? Sent from my iPhone

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Richard
Don't forget the programs 'copysfx' and 'chxformat' in the CDP MultiChannel Toolkit enable users to tinker with channel masks, including setting to zero (if that helps), or of course to write a plain old multichannel WAVE file. Richard Dobson http://people.bath.ac.uk/masrwd/mctools.html

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Marc Lavallee
On Tue, 10 May 2016 19:21:37 - (GMT) "Michael Chapman" wrote: > > Micheal Chapman did it in 2007: > > http://ambisonia.com/Members/michael/ambisonicfile.2008-07-05.2994956247/ > > > > A newer version could be done with a HOA panner and voice synthesis. > > > > -- > > Marc

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Michael Chapman
>> Aaron Heller wrote: >> > https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA > > On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:02:49 +0100, Stefan Schreiber wrote: >> Well done. >> >> Just one suggestion: As VR is a lot about 3D, you could think about to extend the "8 positions" demo to some equivalent 3D demo. Which probably would be

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Michael Chapman
> Aaron Heller wrote: > >>Problem solved. Here's the YouTube version of one of the most downloaded file from Ambisonia, AJH_eigtht_positions.amb >> >> https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA > Well done. > > Just one suggestion: As VR is a lot about 3D, you could think about to extend the "8 positions"

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-10 Thread Marc Lavallee
On Tue, 10 May 2016 16:11:11 +0200, David Pickett wrote: > No criticism of the system -- it must be me, because LEFT BACK and > LEFT FRONT are indistinguishable. > > Disappointing... > > David Hi David. It's you, but it's not "your fault" because everyone is different. Can you compare the

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-08 Thread Marc Lavallée
> Aaron Heller wrote: > > https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA On Mon, 09 May 2016 00:02:49 +0100, Stefan Schreiber wrote: > Well done. > > Just one suggestion: As VR is a lot about 3D, you could think about > to extend the "8 positions" demo to some equivalent 3D demo. Which > probably would be "26

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-08 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Aaron Heller wrote: Problem solved. Here's the YouTube version of one of the most downloaded file from Ambisonia, AJH_eigtht_positions.amb https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA Thanks to Albert, Dillon, Bruce, and Marc for suggestions. Dillon diagnosed the problem, but it took a while to discover

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-08 Thread Bruce Wiggins
Currently, the surround (binaural) audio only works on Android devices. Cheers Bruce On Sun, 8 May 2016 09:29 David Pickett, wrote: > At 04:05 08-05-16, Aaron Heller wrote: > > >Problem solved. Here's the YouTube version of one of the most downloaded > >file from

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-05-08 Thread David Pickett
At 04:05 08-05-16, Aaron Heller wrote: >Problem solved. Here's the YouTube version of one of the most downloaded >file from Ambisonia, AJH_eigtht_positions.amb > > https://youtu.be/eY9DMn8pgGA Exciting news -- thanks Aaron! But I must have missed something earlier. What do I do to play

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-26 Thread Dillon Cower
Hi Aaron, Currently the channel layout for upload to YouTube must be 4.0 or unspecified ; e.g., with ffmpeg, specify "-channel_layout 4.0". We're working on improving things regarding other channel layouts. Apologies for the confusion in

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-25 Thread Aaron Heller
Is there some trick to uploading these files? The files I make upload, but then fail during processing. I make the files like this: $ /opt/local/bin/ffmpeg -loop 1 -framerate 30 -i cube-1920x960.png -i > AJH_eight-positions-ambix.wav -map 0:v -map 1:a -c:a pcm_s16le > -channel_layout quad

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-22 Thread Bruce Wiggins
We've been running a few tests and I'll be putting more details up on my website when we're happy with the results. 360 Ambisonic VR Tests: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6JlYpSUt3kgtQJou2AfgAVtWA5a6SMO1 The use of wav over aac, by the way, is more to do with ffmpeg messing with the

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-21 Thread Marc Lavallee
Hi Chris. Can you give us more infos about this "open source" object-based platform? Because sometimes, "open source" can mean "mostly closed". Also, PCM (or LCPM) is a lossless format; how can DSD sound better at the same resolution? Are you referring to the format or the hardware? -- Marc On

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-21 Thread chris boozer
DTS-X is based upon an open object codec that SRS labs developed and open sourced,     the decoder  is a proprietary implementation but anyone can make their own decoder. DTS acquired SRS labs to get the technology, it is superior to Dolby Atmos and is scale-able from bin-aural headphones all

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-21 Thread Marc Lavallee
I could provide an online listening test to compare PCM and LC-AAC (compressed with the FDK-AAC encoder), with a live A-B switch, along with the graphs that Aaron made, so that people with scientifically enhanced golden ears can give some feedback. A blind test would be even better. With the

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-21 Thread Aaron Heller
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Trond Lossius wrote: > > On 20 Apr 2016, at 21:16, Marc Lavallee wrote: > > > > I wonder why using uncompressed PCM instead of compressed AAC... > > Is there a risk of compressed audio altering the phase between the >

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-21 Thread Trond Lossius
> On 20 Apr 2016, at 21:16, Marc Lavallee wrote: > > I wonder why using uncompressed PCM instead of compressed AAC... Is there a risk of compressed audio altering the phase between the channels, affecting the spatial image? Cheers, Trond

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Albert Leusink
Politis Archontis writes: > > Hi Albert, > > This is interesting! > I don’t have an android and I cannot test it unfortunately. I would like to ask what are you doing with the > B-format? decode it to headphones dynamically? > > Archontis > Hi Archontis, For now, the

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Albert Leusink
Marc Lavallee writes: > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:09:40 +0200 > David Pickett wrote: > > > At 17:29 20-04-16, Albert Leusink wrote: > > > > >YouTube is now supporting ACN/SN3D FOA attached to a .mov video > > >container as uncompressed PCM audio. > > > > I am sure I

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Albert Leusink
David Pickett writes: > > At 18:39 20-04-16, Politis Archontis wrote: > > >Hi David, > > > >if you are asking if the ACN/SN3D FOA is the same as the B-format, > >yes, first-order is the B-format anyway you look at it. > >The B-format in ACN/SN3D convention is the same as in the

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Albert Leusink
David Pickett writes: > > At 17:29 20-04-16, Albert Leusink wrote: > > >YouTube is now supporting ACN/SN3D FOA attached to a .mov video container as > >uncompressed PCM audio. > > I am sure I should know, but if this is a multitrack thing, what do > the channels each contain? B

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Marc Lavallee
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016 18:09:40 +0200 David Pickett wrote: > At 17:29 20-04-16, Albert Leusink wrote: > > >YouTube is now supporting ACN/SN3D FOA attached to a .mov video > >container as uncompressed PCM audio. > > I am sure I should know, but if this is a multitrack thing,

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread David Pickett
At 18:39 20-04-16, Politis Archontis wrote: >Hi David, > >if you are asking if the ACN/SN3D FOA is the same as the B-format, >yes, first-order is the B-format anyway you look at it. >The B-format in ACN/SN3D convention is the same as in the traditional >definition without the W scaling and in

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Politis Archontis
Hi Albert, This is interesting! I don’t have an android and I cannot test it unfortunately. I would like to ask what are you doing with the B-format? decode it to headphones dynamically? Archontis > On 20 Apr 2016, at 18:29, Albert Leusink wrote: > > Hello all, > >

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Politis Archontis
Hi David, if you are asking if the ACN/SN3D FOA is the same as the B-format, yes, first-order is the B-format anyway you look at it. The B-format in ACN/SN3D convention is the same as in the traditional definition without the W scaling and in the ACN order: B_ACN_SN3D = [sqrt(2)*W Y Z X].

Re: [Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread David Pickett
At 17:29 20-04-16, Albert Leusink wrote: >YouTube is now supporting ACN/SN3D FOA attached to a .mov video container as >uncompressed PCM audio. I am sure I should know, but if this is a multitrack thing, what do the channels each contain? B format or what? David

[Sursound] YouTube now supports Ambisonics (warning....part advertisement..)

2016-04-20 Thread Albert Leusink
Hello all, Some welcome news, YouTube is now supporting ACN/SN3D FOA attached to a .mov video container as uncompressed PCM audio. This is great, as most of the world gets a lot of their content through YouTube and now they'll all get to experience the power of Ambisonics!. For now, it only