From: Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: petrodiesel price in uk
UK barrel is 205 liters - 45 UK not US gallons.
*terry, a 'barrel' is a universal quantity of oil (petroleum), like when
your read 'production in saudi arabia dropped by 500,000 barrels a day'. it
has always been, and still
Also conveniently forgotten is the fact that, when D2 changed to ultra low
sulphur diesel, there was a power loss of 5%.
Wonder why?
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Nice preemptive strike. Kudos.
;-)
Ed B.
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Mike,
That is, by and large correct. There is a slight horsepower reduction when
running biodiesel neat.
Some would jump on this factoid like a cat on a rat, screaming I told you
so, and other mindless declarations that berate
Dick -
UK barrel is 205 litres - 45 UK not US gallons.
Petrodiesel is not crude oil
18p per litre is the price a garage (filling station) has to pay the
supplier, before he (or she) adds around 4p profit, making it 22p.
Add 45.82p fuel tax equals a rounded 68p.
Multiply that by 17.5% VAT (a tax
Thank you, Ed, but I was actually wondering why the whole world had
overlooked the fact that there was a reduction in mpg with ULSD,
Perhaps it was because nobody felt threatened by a better substitute?
Methink the lady doth protest too much!
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Tom/Steve and all:
On the other hand you do not need to make any, or nearly as much, biodiesel,
so processor and supplies and lab equipment and time spent making are
reduced or eliminated.
I very strongly advocate the use of biodiesel and SVO as a synergistic and
complementary system, with
Friction?
;-)
Ed B.
From: Biofuels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:55:01 +0100
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] What's the difference
Also conveniently forgotten is the fact that, when D2 changed to ultra low
sulphur
Dear Todd,
Thanks for your information. Hydrogenation sounds interesting but first
things first.
I live next to a fishing harbour which probably consumes a few million
liters of diesal monthly.
If I want to have an impact on this I need to be able to tell people
straight what they gonna get
Marc,
In NZ while containers are loaded by overhead cranes at the
container terminal (wharf) most transport is then by speciallly fitted semis
which have hydraulic hoists front and back which can unload and reload fully
laden containers by lifting them over the side and onto the tray.
Mike,
Check out
http://www.cytoculture.com/Biodiesel%20Handbook.htm#Lower%20Hydrocarbon%20Em
issions
Mariners would appreciate this text.
Also, start checking within a 40 mile radius of your port and determine how
many fast food outlets you have, everything from hamburger joints to donut
I am wading through and thining the message herd as we speak. I hope to be
caught up be tonight or tomorow(my webmail is acting up).
I will send out the Power Point File to all that have requested it as soon as I
find out who they all are. :-)
Have Fun and Play Nice
Richard Hoard
From: dhargis1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Musings about toilet tissue
One thing that I have noticed is that in the USA and in Northern Europe
the
norm is to clean ones butt with toilet paper. In the Middle East, Africa,
India, and I believe in China, the norm is to wash with water as
I've had some thoughts running about in my head for a bit, and thought that
I would pass them on. Perhaps it isn't strictly on-topic, but it illustrates
how small changes in a population's lifestyle can have major implications on
a global scale.
One thing that I have noticed is that in the USA
Derek,
In the same vein have you ever thought how much water would be
used if the whole world switched to the french way and everyone used bidets.
Just think what a market there would be for portable water purification
units and steam distillation units in some countries.
Mind you if
David Reid wrote:
Will dig out some more information for you over the next week or so on
Jeruasalem artichokes if I get a chance. How long are you in the
Phillipines
for? If you are going to be there for awhile it may pay to get some seed
from the World Seed Bank and do a few growing trials.
Derek Hargis wrote:
Yes, you're probably right. That was one of the reasons that I
mentioned
thinking to restrict myself to designing within only 20 foot containers.
Then, I think a lot of the interior of the container is going to be
empty
space surrounding the machinery. I had hoped to move
David Reid wrote:
In NZ while containers are loaded by overhead cranes at the
container terminal (wharf) most transport is then by speciallly fitted
semis
which have hydraulic hoists front and back which can unload and reload
fully
laden containers by lifting them over the side and onto
Hi Ian,
Couldn't find your various postings at the web pages2stage,
process,react1a.
Please email those, I will see whether there is any problem areas.
Thanks
Gerry
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hello. my name is john amory, victoria, au. my
question is- is methane CH4 the gas version of
methanol. If so, can methane be liquified back to
methanol. thank you. ja
thank you.
Do You Yahoo!?
Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address
Marc,
No problem. You dont need ballast to counterbalance the weight as
the container is lifted. The semi trailer tray has pull out arms that slide
in box section channels welded under the tray which are pulled out and have
fold down legs with feet plate attached which take the load as
Here you are guys, no more power bills, no more energy crisis, no
more global warming, no more nukes... Of course this couldn't
possibly be a scam, perish the thought - o me of little faith. :-)
Keith Addison
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Tokyo
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Hey! I saw the Bio Bug today in Philadelphia, PA . I saw at least 3
Biodiesel companies with exhibits, plus the national biodiesel board. The
guys from Nevada were helpful. I downloaded the National Clean Cities
Conference booklet at http://ccities.doe.gov and found out that Straight
Vegetable
Yes, the conference was very cool. Liked the kronosport electric/human
powered hybrids as well. The big rig was methane (LNG). got to crawl all
over that. http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biobug.htm
Steve Spence
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Try Jatropha and see what can be done at http://jatropha.org . Its a
tropical plant that I believe will grow in Jereusalem. It produces an
inedible oil that can be use as fuel when pressed.
Greg
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Sent: Monday, May
Try 50/50 kerosene/SVO! I used new oil and kerosene and it worked in my
driveway testing.
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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 3:29 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Can Biod be replace central heating oil?
Marc,
Rang Tappers and there are apparently about 5 manufacturers of
them. Have just rung Steelbro who are the largest manufacturers of them and
who apparently export them all over the world so I may have been wrong when
I said I doubted they were a kiwi idea. They arnt cheap though. A
Over here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania where we have road taxes unlike NJ,
my wife has decided to change her driving habits. Now, she has asked me to
drive the family to Church on Sunday in my 1985 VW Diesel Jetta, instead of
taking the gas powered Plymouth Grand Voyager. My diesel prices have
Look out for a high freeze point, which may be unacceptable to your Winter
customers!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:16 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuel] Tallow
,
My name is Frank
Our group in MN has also determined that a 20 cargo
container is the best option for a mobile Biodiesel
plant. We have been quoted a cost of $750 to $1200 US
depending on condition. The semi trailers we looked
into were twice as much and would have additional
costs. The solution we have proposed
I wonder if anyone has thought of producing a simple
steam conversion for Wankel rotor engines. All the
advantages of a turbine with none of the high RPM
headaches. Or maybe a simple low rpm low efficiency
steam piston engine with integral generator windings
like the picoturbine. It would seem to
Here are my thoughts for what they are worth:
It is my understanding that there are two main
problems with running diesels on SVO.
1. The solidification at low temperatures. Not a
problem in sunny Mexico.
and
2. Deposits on the injectors and ring grooves leading
to inefficiency and
What does a conversion kit consist of?
steve spence wrote:
you don't need a conversion kit for biodiesel, but you would for straight
veggie oil (SVO)
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Hi Dana,
Got any drawings? Have quickly scanned what you have written
and the idea looks as if it might have a fair bit of merit. Any other
reference material as well?
B.r., David
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Yeah thats the snake oil peddler Dennis Lee at freeelec.
Heard he was in jail for a time re confidence scam.
He's a bit more polished now. No hard promises.
A real piece of work.
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From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 7:06 PM
To:
Relative to drum cleaning, or any cleaning for that matter, try Citra-Solve.
It's a citrus based cleaner that cuts hundreds of greases, oils and
petrochem products.
Leaves most surfaces squeaky clean as a babies bum.
Todd
Appal Energy
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Dear Todd,
Excellent reference!!! It addresses many of the topics to satisfy my
curiosity, etc...
Here is Cape Town, we only have about 1000 fish and chip shops in the area.
A couple of dozen fish processing plants and much more. Fish oil?
I have completed my first biodiesal setup and tested.
kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah thats the snake oil peddler Dennis Lee at freeelec.
Heard he was in jail for a time re confidence scam.
He's a bit more polished now. No hard promises.
A real piece of work.
Oh yeah, I remember him. Thanks!
Best
Keith Addison
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My experience of trying SVO mixed in with the heating oil was cold wax
crystal blocked fine filter (before the jet) and waxing of the jet, leading
to misdirected spray and locking out.
I will not do it again in a domestic unit.
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For economy, use both sides
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Hello Jay
Hi Folks,
I am new on the list.
Welcome!
I am most interested in alcohol production since I don't
have a diesel engine. As a daily driver I have a 30 year old economy car, a
Rambler. I rebuilt the motor so the thing runs great and it is so simple with
power nothing. I have also
Hi Derek
I've had some thoughts running about in my head for a bit, and thought that
I would pass them on. Perhaps it isn't strictly on-topic, but it illustrates
how small changes in a population's lifestyle can have major implications on
a global scale.
One thing that I have noticed is that in
Hi Todd
I agree, I can't see it - well, not for the likes of us. Nor for
farmers, coops, local communities. It's corporate stuff I guess.
Keith,
Took a look at the mobile bio-d plant. Off the cuff, it may have an
application somewhere, but you're talking a boatload of
infrastructure and
Hello Barry
Hi all,
I know you often hear this but I am a relatively new
member to the group who has been doing a lot of reading and thinking
about biodiesel.
Doesn't make you any the less welcome. :-)
I have come to decision that I want to have a go at making biodiesel
as the
For economy, use both sides
:-)
And for two-ply? Separate and then use both sides?
Keith Addison
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Gee Think it may be a case of oh shit
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From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Musings about toilet tissue
For economy, use both sides
:-)
And for two-ply? Separate and then use
Keith,
Thanks for your word of encouragement.
Barryt
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Information requires
Hello Barry
Hi all,
I know you often
Try this web site www.energea.at mailto = [EMAIL PROTECTED] .This is an
Austrian company that appears to specialise in mobile continuous process bio
diesel plants that fit into containers. Attached is one of their brochures
they sent to me when I enquired. They did not send me any prices though
Hanns,
If you could send the attachment directly to me I would appreciate it. The
mailing list is set to strip attachments from the e-mails so as not to allow
propogation of viruses.
Thanks,
Derek W. Hargis
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throw a diesel generator on a trailer. what amps do you need? 220volt is
probably best.
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see below:
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Dear Keith, Todd, et. al.,
Before I went to India for a look, I would have agreed with you. However,
the roads are so bad that it took me five hours to travel a distance of 110
k (68 miles) on one of the official Indian highways in a Jeep going as fast
as it could go, or as fast as the driver
my thought is the startup and shutdown on biodiesel will remove such
deposits on a regular basis?
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second tank, fuel lines solenoid, heat exchanger, etc. See from the fryer
to fuel tank
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i have plans for a oil/gas multifuel burner I'll be posting soon. has a
replaceable (cheap) jet assembly depending on fuel, and is made from a lp
tank.
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This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
bio-d from high FFA feedstock.
I am from Brisbane and have similar intersts so perhaps we could
communicate?
To Steve Spence,
Try this web site and its many links. There you will probably find all you
want http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html . I am also from Australia and
have similar interests. Are you from Brisbane by any chance.
Hanns Wetzel
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Hi Stuart and All,
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Do you know of any work to develop a portable
biodiesel capable of
recharging an electric vehicle?
You will have 2 problems, first is weight.
Finding a small light diesel engine is the 1st step. I
suggest a Duetz( 4.5 hp) or a small
Hello Hanns
To Steve Spence,
Try this web site and its many links. There you will probably find all you
want http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html .
That'll tickle him! Steve's site at Webconx and our site at Journey
to Forever are partner sites. And I keep saying that about his site.
This web site may be of interest to you
http://www.biodiesel-intl.com/rohstoff_e/rohstoff.htm . It also is an
Autrian company and they might give you some information about producing
bio-d from high FFA feedstock.
I am from Brisbane and have similar intersts so perhaps we could
communicate?
Keith,
Not to belittle your concern about water, its importance, and the likelihood
of wars being fought over it, but I still tend to feel that energy in one
form or another is of utmost importance. I currently live in an environment
where life is highly dependent upon technology and energy.
Hanns,
I am not sure if you are referring to me or Steve Spence. If
it's me then I live on the northern beaches of Sydney. Biodiesel is not an
issue here at all. I have heard virtually nothing about it locally in the
press. About a month ago the Newcastle City Council, north of
John,
Methane (CH4) is not gaseous methanol. Methanol is oxygenated methane re: a
hydroxyl group (OH) replaces one of the hydrogen atoms in the molecule. (CH3OH)
This is how it works for all the alcohols. Add the OH to ethane, and get
ethanol; to propane, and get propanol; butane, butanol, and so
Missed the original post on this thread.
If the question is as stated in the subject line, the answer is absolutely
yes.
Some precautions must be taken to deal with cold weather mechanics such as
clouding and gelling. Other than that, the only other problem is the
sludge buildup on the old fuel
How about a Little Deutz Coupe, instead, and leave the electric stuff at
home?
Ed B.
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