Hello Tom
What a sad story - should the EPA perhaps be renamed the Environment
Prevention Agency?
I am the producer of Yellow Brand PREMIUM Biodiesel, located in Ashfield, MA.
In 2001, we produced 3,650 gallons of biodiesel from our own technology. This
is a low cost production system, in its
Sound like the US and British producers are getting hit. We're having the same
problems on this side of the pond.
Dave Preskett
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Tom
What a sad story - should the EPA perhaps be renamed the Environment
Prevention Agency?
I am the producer of Yellow Brand PREMIUM
For Biodiesel production in large
scale, how do the following raw
material stand:
1. Paddy Husk
(Rice is made by removing the
outer husk of paddy)
2. Saw dust
3. Cane sugar pulp
Is there any value in these for
biodiesel production?
If you have any system(s)
to use these raw materials,
The EPA administrator was referring to 40 CFR 79, which states: In
accordance with the regulations at 40 CFR 79, Subparts A, B, C, D and F,
Registration of Fuels and Fuel Additives, manufacturers of (1) motor vehicle
gasoline, (2) motor vehicle diesel fuel, and (3) additives for those fuels,
It may be splitting hairs but is Biodiesel diesel fuel?
Could you argue that there is nothing in the act as stated
(Registration of Fuels and Fuel Additives, manufacturers of (1) motor
vehicle
gasoline, (2) motor vehicle diesel fuel, and (3) additives for those fuels)
that require the
Tom, it's probably not time for guerilla biodiesel, but there are PLENTY
of environmental advocacy groups who would espouse your cause. Pressure,
especially independent and well-publicised, on your administrators is the
best chance to get them to reconsider their INTERPRETATION of the rules they
Have seen some mention of Rice bran being used but I believe that is the
layer under paddy husk. (its removal turns brown rice into white rice).
according to my information the oil in this material turns rancid very
quickly ruining the product for human or animal consumtion in a matter of
hours
This business about the EPA closing down any small scale biodiesel production
facilities is a national problem. I'm ready to provide all of the background
information to any environmental advocacy group that is interested in looking
into this problem. If there is any formal group that wants
Hello John:
You might want to look into how the State of Minnesota is handling this. The
State is VERY actively promoting Biodiesel.
Just a thought.
Good Luck,
Len Walde, P.E.
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From: John Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday,
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-09237feb06.story?coll=la-headli
nes-business
February 6, 2002
Ban on MTBE Induces Suit Using NAFTA Provision
By EVELYN IRITANI, TIMES STAFF WRITER
Santa Monica city officials had no idea they would trigger an
international legal brawl when they sent
Natural gas is the solution, hmphh - when will it ever dawn on
these people that biodiesel is a cheaper and better answer? Do they
have ADD or what?? - Keith
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/02
/08/MN7.DTL
California school buses hit for smog - Old
Sound like the US and British producers are getting hit. We're having the same
problems on this side of the pond.
Dave Preskett
Hi David
What problems are you having in the UK? Could you give us some detail please?
regards
Keith Addison
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Tom
What a sad
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ss_market+.shtml
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Honda steers hybrid to mass market
By Royal Ford, Globe Staff, 2/3/2002
NDIAN WELLS, Calif. - The car, with an electric motor boosting its
small gasoline engine, has
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- 2/5/2002 - ENN.com
Senate plan would increase fuel economy to 37 mpg
Tuesday, February 05, 2002
By Nedra Pickler, Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Automakers would be required to increase fuel efficiency
by up to 56 percent for
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Planet Ark :
US gas guzzlers top Meanest Vehicles list
USA: February 7, 2002
DETROIT - Detroit Big Three automakers produce the biggest gas
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Environment, which is
Which is the better process route to achieve dehydrated ethanol from fermented
broth? Extractive distillation? Azeotropic distillation with an entrainer?
Molecular sieves? Prevapoation with membranes? All seem viable but what are the
financial benefits for selecting each route?
Andy Thomson
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Shukrainternationals
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For Biodiesel production in large
scale, how do the following raw
material stand:
1. Paddy Husk
(Rice is made by removing the
outer husk of paddy)
2. Saw dust
3. Cane sugar pulp
Is there any value in these for
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It may be splitting hairs but is Biodiesel diesel fuel?
Could you argue that there is nothing in the act as stated
(Registration of Fuels and Fuel Additives, manufacturers of (1)
motor
vehicle
gasoline, (2) motor vehicle diesel
Any biomass will make fuel pellet.
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In this application I don't think a CO2 scrubber will serve any purpose. The
problem with the CO2 is simply the volume that the pump has to shift not
that we need to eliminate carbon dioxide. I think a faster pump would be a
better solution and maybe more efficient energy wise than a piston pump.
As long as you are using a propane tank in the system. Have you
considered using a larger tank. Using the air comnpressor draw a
vacuum onto the tank and then use it as a stored energy source.
A
typical thousand gallon service propane tank with special
plumbing
and valving will
motie, a cold trap between the vacuum pump and the
ethanol source should solve the problem of pump
lubrication. adding an oil trap before the pump would
also be advisable.imho.
regards,roger
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], cornfed62 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As long as this is still
From the Biofuels-biz list:
I am the producer of Yellow Brand PREMIUM Biodiesel, located in Ashfield, MA.
In 2001, we produced 3,650 gallons of biodiesel from our own technology. This
is a low cost production system, in its third generation of development. With
recent updates to the system and
Keith Addison wrote:
We just hit 1001 members.
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
List owner
Isn't that a kilolist ? ;-)
Yes, but there are such great people here!
You're right of course Arne.
Congratulations!
snip
This week I have been shut down by the EPA because they say I may not use the
health effects data developed by the non-profit National Biodiesel Board,
which is used by every other commecial producer in the country, but must
develop my own. The EPA estimates that will cost me in excess
Anne,
What was the size of your production?
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From: Arne P. Ryason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
snip
This week I have been shut down by the EPA because
Joe Trotter wrote:
Anne,
What was the size of your production?
Joe - It's Arne, not Anne - no big deal - a common mistake. I don't produce
biodiesel yet; I was making a reference to another about a producer shut down
by the EPA - Tom Leue of Homestead Inc. who has just had his biodiesel
I guess my reaction would be to get on the phone with both of my
state senators and my congressman. The burrowcrats that made this
decision should be fired.
--
Harmon Seaver
CyberShamanix
http://www.cybershamanix.com
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html
CO2 is a very cheap gas. You would need a great deal of it to be worth
messing with.
If you have a greenhouse you could vent it in there when the sun is up.
Kirk
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From: cornfed62 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 12:37 AM
To:
Arne:
The EPA and IRS monitor this type of sites to figure out who to go after.
You should call and write your Congressman and Senator and demand that they
look into the EPA's actions and report back to you.
Richard
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However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure Plant Oil, is
a very
costly
operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the glycerine
substituting it
by methanol as well as adding other chemicals, **making the endproduct
poisenous
and equally hazardous as
In a message dated 02/11/2002 8:15:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Tom Leue of Homestead Inc. who has just had his biodiesel
production line shut down by Big Government for the benefit of Big Oil. My
Does anyone have a e-mail address or telephone number for Tom Leue?
Hi Richard,
Have a look back through the messages from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
especially the thread
Re: [biofuels-biz] Generally Stalled Motors
biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
His website is:
http://www.yellowbiodiesel.com/
Regards
JohnH
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Scratch a monopoly and you find the government underneath.
An old expression and getting truer every day.
Kirk
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From: Arne P. Ryason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:11 AM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
Joe
John: I just talked with him thanks. Richard
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Glad to help from this side of the world
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 1:56
Subject: Re: [biofuel] EPA hassle
John: I just talked with him thanks. Richard
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http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/034/nation/Honda_steers_hybrid_to_ma
ss_market+.shtml
Boston Globe Online / Nation | World /
Honda steers hybrid to mass market
By Royal Ford, Globe Staff, 2/3/2002
NDIAN WELLS, Calif. - The car, with an electric motor boosting its
small gasoline engine, has
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/02/02052002/ap_46304.asp
- 2/5/2002 - ENN.com
Senate plan would increase fuel economy to 37 mpg
Tuesday, February 05, 2002
By Nedra Pickler, Associated Press
WASHINGTON - Automakers would be required to increase fuel efficiency
by up to 56 percent for
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm/newsid/14408/story.htm
Planet Ark :
US gas guzzlers top Meanest Vehicles list
USA: February 7, 2002
DETROIT - Detroit Big Three automakers produce the biggest gas
guzzlers on this year's list of Meanest Vehicles for the
Environment, which is
Ulp... Do you have a url for that, Alan?
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
However the process to chemically change the structure of Pure
Plant Oil, is a very
costly
operation and requires a lot of energy, as it removes the
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arne P. Ryason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
This week I have been shut down by the EPA because they say I may
not use the
health effects data developed by the non-profit National
Biodiesel Board,
which is used by every other commecial producer in the
Hello Jeff
Thanks for this, I got the files - nice neat diagrams. And thanks for
the link. I'll mull it all over and get back to you, tomorrow I hope.
All best
Keith Addison
Journey to Forever
Handmade Projects
Osaka, Japan
http://journeytoforever.org/
Keith,
I have made a couple jpg
Great concept ! I didn't think that the volume of CO2 would be a
problem,
as its generated reasonably slowly over the period of fermentation -
eg the
airlock on top of my fermentor steadily bubbles away, its not
exactly a
huge flowrate. I was thinking though of the problem of running
Sounds like a case of harasment to me. I'd be calling a lawyer so fast the
EPA wouldn't have time to say BioDiesel.
Greg H.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 03:46
Subject: [biofuel] EPA hassle - Re: [biofuels-biz] Generally Stalled Motors
Tom Leue wrote:
This week I have been shut down by the EPA because they say I may not use the
health effects data developed by the non-profit National Biodiesel Board,
which is used by every other commecial producer in the country, but must
develop my own. The EPA estimates that will cost me
Which is the better process route to achieve dehydrated ethanol from fermented
broth? Extractive distillation? Azeotropic distillation with an entrainer?
Molecular sieves? Prevapoation with membranes? All seem viable but what are the
financial benefits for selecting each route?
Andy Thomson
I would like an answer to that question myself
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From: Thomsons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 2:04 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Ethanol Distillation
Which is the better process route to achieve dehydrated
Keith: Take a look at the following article by Chuck Lapin. I have known
that natural gas and MTBE were bad since about 1980. Do we get heard? No!
Only the extreme environmentalists and their partners in the government.
Richard
TOXICOLOGIST 'APPALLED' AT IGNORING CNG RISK.
Diesel Fuel
Which is the better process route to achieve dehydrated ethanol from
fermented broth? Extractive distillation? Azeotropic distillation with an
entrainer? Molecular sieves? Prevapoation with membranes? All seem
viable but what are the financial benefits for selecting each route?
Andy Thomson
What is the point of being wealthy if you can't choose the music?
The energy tycoons have stated the future is fuel cells.
Any competing technology will be outlawed if it can't be done another way.
Most of the green extremists get grants from foundations representing the
ruling class and their
Sorry for quoting the entire message, but I couldn't figure out who
wrote what, so couldn't attribute the quote and snip too.
My legal skills are a little rusty, having retired from practicing
environmental law several years (over a decade, now) ago. Could
someone explain the meaning of
Keith: Take a look at the following article by Chuck Lapin. I have known
that natural gas and MTBE were bad since about 1980. Do we get heard? No!
Only the extreme environmentalists and their partners in the government.
Richard
Thankyou Richard, I'm glad to have that report, good ammo.
Shukrainternationals wrote:
I like your idea that we have government employees paid by us to harass us.
What an irony?
Like protection money. But don't paint it with too broad a brush -
very many of them are fine people who take their responsibilities
seriously.
Can we not start a movement
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