This is a point that is going to get more and more attention, and a
valuable marketing approach for those making biodiesel from plant oils
that are produced in as sustainable a fashion as possible. I think we
will most definitely see product differentiation of biodiesel based on
feedstock
This:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/whitepaper/index.shtml
seems to lead to this:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/whitepaper/ourenergyfuture.pdf
which may actually be the White Paper under discussion in the
following stories and others.
I haven't had time to read it. I've read through a few
Risk to environment poses same dangers as terror, warns Blair
Paul Brown, environment correspondent
Tuesday February 25, 2003
The Guardian
The destruction of the environment and global warming are as great a
threat to world peace as terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, the
prime
Dave,
I encountered the same problem.
From: David Preskett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [biofuels-biz] New file uploaded
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 16:08:46 +
How do you get to the file uploads? I get to the Yahoo site
Mark,
100% agree with you. It's better that Smithfield,
IBP, Tyson, et al do something with their waste that
helps to close the loop. In the short to medium term
it's a great step.
I was just responding to something someone else wrote
about sustainability. Since sustainability implies
Didn't get in on the start of this.But that has never stopped me before so
here goes.Is your lye a solution of lye in water or lye in methanol or
is it a the solid. If you buy the lye as a solution the density at some
specified temperature will be on the label. If you divide the mass you need
in
If I recall, most of the Sterlings I hear about use a working gas of
Helium.
Curtis
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From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James,
If you can show me how the sterling will run from 80 degree Celsius
Unless I made a wrong turn on a calculation, it looks as if water weighs 1.0233
gms / CC. Yes, thats absolutely pure deionized water.
Suppose you made a balance with two graduated containers and a balance beam.
Something about coat hangers and Wal Mart kitchen supplies come to mind.
You could
Bummer I really want that info
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From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:38 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Fw: IS BUSH NUTS? by William Thomas
Hey Doug,
You've amused...I mean assumed wrongly.
I
TALK to the owner and have them put it out for you, and pick up,
weekly, in the containers they buy it in. Sealed, fresh as possible.
That is the best way. And find some Canola oil.
Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca
On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 08:36 AM, Keith Addison wrote:
We have one - very nice. made for gear oil. (heavier oils!!), 12/24V
Comes with strainer and flow control (filler) nozzle
Edward Beggs
http://www.biofuels.ca
On Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 02:33 PM, girl_mark_fire
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pumping coldish WVo with a dc pump is one of
Mark, thanks! I completely forgot about this technique, and it's
super useful for those not planning to make any quantities of fuel-
like SVo'ers needing a small amount of lye/water reference tester for
doing titration on oil to see how bad it is for instance. Asking
people to shell out even
Dear Dom,
If you go to the link that explains my position you will find
that I do not suggest any ban on SUV. This type of vehicle
are useful or recreation for some people. I suggest,
1. That as much as possible these vehicles should be used
in the environment that they designed for,
Dom,
A majority of postings are about energy related questions. You managed
with something very rare. Girl_Mark that is one of the most knowledgeable
and that to 99% always share useful information, reacted on one of your
stupid (I very seldom use this kind of evaluations) and discriminating
Dom,
A majority of postings are about energy related questions. You managed
with something very rare. Girl_Mark that is one of the most knowledgeable
and that to 99% always share useful information, reacted on one of your
stupid (I very seldom use this kind of evaluations) and discriminating
Thank you for the compliment Hakan-
I ignore a lot of political postings I disagree with here- my theory
is that renewable energy appeals to people across all ends of the
political spectrum- which is very unique. Though it sometimes it's
really disturbing to see the disagreements, and in my
Hello All,
Thanks everyone for all the infomration sheared on the list. A lot has been
learned and will still be lernt when following the discussions going on.
I have a small question concerning the quality of biodiesel. Do some one
have information of any laboratory, univeristy or other
Hi Tomas,
If you need to certify your BD, I think that you have to go to the
governmental testing institution. I do not remember the name of
it in Finland, but in Sweden it is Statens Provningsanstalt. Give
them a call and find out, if it is not them who is testing, they will
tell you where to
snip
Componet CAS numberWeight% OSHA Hazard Category
ACETONE 0.2 - 2.6 Hazardous
67-64-1
METHANOL97.5 - 0 Hazardous
67-56-1
I can only guess this means its 97.5 % methanol and not good enough to
make biodiesel with. Would like your input
You might consider one of the wax crystal inhibitors used as an additive for
diesel fuel. It doesn't take much but they drop the wax point of diesel
fuels. It should work for these fuels.
Dom Amato
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From: gumpon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Ladies and Gentlemen:
When I wrote that I was reading email from this group for the first time. I
am a chemist who was, in the past, involved only marginally with the oil
business. I want to become involved with biofuels because I see it as an
opportunity to do something that can be both
Yes. According to Webster's it is unsolicited usually commercial E-mail
sent to a large number of addresses .
Dom
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 11:03 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Just one man's observation!
Check out the link below. They have digital scales down to 0.1 gram
accuracy for less than $50 new. Have you checked Ebay?
Dom Amato
http://www.aweighscales.com/digital_scales_Pocket_Digital_Scales.htm
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From: Dan Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Domenick V. Amato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Yes. According to Webster's it is unsolicited usually commercial
E-mail
sent to a large number of addresses .
Dom,
Glad you took the time to look it up. His response was not un-
solicited and it was sent to
Dear Dom Amato,
Can you elaborate somewhat more on this.
I've already seen several research papers stating that the 'normal' available
additives for dino-diesel do little or nothing for Biodiesel. On the other
hand, there are a few commercial products available which claim to to the
thing for
Here are a couple of locations that will better provide links to the
documentation you're asking for. The second hotlink is more of a general
summary.
http://www.dorway.com/symptoms.html
http://www.dorway.com/badnews.html#symptoms
Funny how Donald Rumsfeld's fingerprint is found throughout the
Another term to look for is jeweller's balance. I used to see these on ebay
all
the time. Went for less than US$10 most of the time IIRC.
Darryl McMahon
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
From: girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date sent:
Domenick V. Amato wrote:
That's probably one of the most lame answers I have heard in a very long
time. I can assure you that the person who was in the SUV does not agree.
Railroad trains can kill SUVs and Yugos can kill pedestrians. Should we
ban railroad trains and Yugos or SUVs and
Curtis,
Yes, the modern stirling engines use pressurized cases filled with helium.
Anything to eeek out a little more thermal efficiency.
Hmmm, I suppose hydrogen could be used. oh the humanity!
more fun:
http://users.moscow.com/oiseming/lc_ant_p/lnk_stir.htm
Mark
--- csakima [EMAIL
I measure my Lye with a simple kitchen scale that I bought at a
Kitchen Stuff Plus store here in Toronto. It cost me about $8
Canadian.
Jeremy
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I was also wondering about that as a conversion table I looked at had
something like 1tsp == 1gm for salt. Has anyone done a conversion for
Lye? Or seen one somewheres arounds?
James Slayden
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wouldn 't recommend determining weight
I remember some talk about this, not to long ago, with a few sources named,
but, I wasn't paying to much attention to it at the time. Your best bet
would be to check the Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ .
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Perry Jones [EMAIL
- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 01:21
Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
I'm sure that being able to drive a 62 ton M-1 Abrems, qualifies me to drive
a 1 1/2 ton SUV.
- Original Message -
From: Domenick V. Amato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 07:15
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Behind the Great Divide
When I wrote that I was reading email from this group for the first time.
I
am a chemist who was, in
One small problem Dom, by joining the list, you solicited all E-mail from
it, not just this post and that post.
Greg H.
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From: Domenick V. Amato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 07:19
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Just one
Greg,
Thank you for the further clarification regarding the SPAM issue that
Domenick brought up.
BTW, Is the Abrams tank the one with the turbine? I like turbines,
they pack a lot of punch in a small package. They make great flame
throwers too! E-mail me off list if you want to hear
This:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/whitepaper/index.shtml
seems to lead to this:
http://www.dti.gov.uk/energy/whitepaper/ourenergyfuture.pdf
which may actually be the White Paper under discussion in the
following stories and others.
I haven't had time to read it. I've read through a few
Yes, it is the one with the Multi-Fuel turbine ( 0 to 60 in 20 sec. ;-P ),
there were a few limitations as to what we could do with some fuels, ( could
not use the smoke generator with gasoline or similar low flash point fuels,
because the fuels in question, tended start engine fires ). Rumor
Risk to environment poses same dangers as terror, warns Blair
Paul Brown, environment correspondent
Tuesday February 25, 2003
The Guardian
The destruction of the environment and global warming are as great a
threat to world peace as terrorism and weapons of mass destruction, the
prime
Dear Keith
I have the problem with the methyle ester we produced from stearin,
crude or olein palm oil. When the temperature drops to about less than
15 or 10 C, the ester become solid waxy ( this might come from some of
the stearin which was not converted to ester ?) but it become clear
Mark
Check out this link they have 5hp stirling motors, I personally
don't know a thing about Stirling motors but all the hubub about
stirling motors sparked my interest. I ran across this link from
someones post in here. They are in Japan and I could not find a
price anywhere on the web
Yes, flame throwers.
there was a series of procedures in place that we had when I was training
to be an aircraft mechanic. Well, the wiring was incorrectly installed so
instead of Starter - Igniter - Fuel, it was Starter - Fuel -
Igniter. Needless to say that before we could stop the
On a similar note, anyone know where to get an inexpensive digital PH
meter??
Thanks,
Ed
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Greg,
Absolutely and I envy you.
Being in the signal corps the limit for me was bandwagon truck (wheel in
front) and other larger/smaller vehicles with wheels. I started as
communication specialist with Morse, codification and that stuff, but after
a transfer the slots for this in the new
--- Domenick V. Amato wrote:
What is luxo junk to one is comfort and safety to
another. The general
public votes with its pocket book for SUVs and
pickup trucks. Fifty million
Americans can't be politically incorrect.
Dom Amato
Hello Don,
By that logic, slavery wasn't bad. Neither
In a sunny climate like the mountains of New Mexico this
thing will make around 250 kwh a day and at ten cents each
that means about $25 a day worth of electricity. And
figuring 300 days a year of good sunshine, that comes to
about $7500 per year or less than six years pay back on the
machine.
I just purchased a $29 pH meter called the Hanna pH
on the internet. It's a little pocket pH. I also
purchased a 250gram pocket scale on e-bay last week
and it came w/ a 100g calibration weight($30).
(in the U.S.)
Brian
--- ehall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On a similar note, anyone know where
Ed
just call your local Scientific supplies store they will have it. I just did
about ten minutes ago and I am waiting on a call back.
Doug
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From: ehall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 1:53 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE:
It was fun, I admit that, not as much fun as firing the main gun, but, did
it more often.
Funny thing, when it came time for my folks to teach me to drive, they used
a '72 Mercury Grand Marquee 4 dr. station wagon, ( not just big, but very
big ). Then my first car was a '71 Merc. Montego,
I know that cars are (unfortunately) part of the
american persona and american psyche. And the
American dream and the american myth.
True!
But some other things, really excellent things are also part of the American
myth. Self reliance, ingenuity and that ever pervasive can do spirit.
At
I'm glad that Thor pointed out the comparison between suv's and the
minivans that preceded them and served the 'same purpose'.
People often think that automotive choice comes down to either buying
a huge SUV versus a Honda Civic- and yeah, if you have 3 kids and a
spouse and occasional friend
The Council of Energy Resource Tribes (CERT) is holding the National
Tribal Sustainability Conference, April 15, 16, 2003, in
Albuquerque, New Mexico. Go to www.certredearth.com for more info
and registration. CERT is an intertribal consortia assisting tribes
with the prudent development of
It was a joke, a take-off of an old statement made by the French to justify
whatever they wanted. fifty million Frenchmen can't be wrong. It was
intended as sarcasm rather than an true statement. Perhaps my jokes are
getting a little too old.
Sorry. What you say is basically true. But
I'd like to jump in a moment:
I just returned last night from a 2300 km filter test /RD run and
climate change presentation in Northern Alberta, through BC and Alberta
wilderness and the winter snow. (Some pics on our site later today I
hope)
This was most definitely in the land of big
1st Cav - Ft Hood.
Greg H.
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From: greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 14:49
Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
where? i was in 3AD
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Hrmm, can't seem to find a link for that. Might you have one?
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Robby Davenport wrote:
lowes stores in the usa have deep fryer oil pumps battery operated , for
the deep friers used for whole turkeys; it even has a screen on the
intake . price about 30 buck ' s Robert
Titration scale:
http://www.aweighscales.com/digital_scales_Gram_Scales.htm
$10 seems doable .
James Slayden
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, girl_mark_fire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark, thanks! I completely forgot about this technique, and it's
super useful for those not planning to make any
Hola Folks,
Here is a drill pump for pumping BD for only $4.86 @ Lowes. This is
similar to the one that Sears puts out only costs less. Great for both
110v and portable drills. BTW, only to be used for BD as Mark will
contest that WVO is too much for this little pump.
Mark, didn't you
whoops forgot the link:
http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=productDetailproductId=25781-335-RDP-1
Sorry!
James
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, James Slayden wrote:
Hola Folks,
Here is a drill pump for pumping BD for only $4.86 @ Lowes. This is
similar to the one that Sears puts out only costs less.
OK, I'll bite: What the heck is a 62 ton M-1 Abrems?
Perry
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From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
- Original Message
I picked up one of these little scales at a local head shop. It was
inexpensive ($12.00) and has worked really well. It's incredibly
sensitive and adjustable.
-Original Message-
From: James Slayden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Measuring Lye - Cheap Scales
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2003022719402932catname=qty=1it
em=2-1225
This 115 volt pump will handle SVO or heated WVO, biodiesel and water.
Originally designed by Little Giant as a solvent pump.
Relatively fast, ~300 gph on veg oil. Best little durable, all around pump
that your
The link didn't work right despite the proper cut and pasting- but I
think I know which pump this is from having gotten the info from Todd
before. note that they're not selfpriming. I bought one of them, and
they're fine for my purposes (moving fluids around at my site), but
non-self-priming
Actually come to think of it, that pump doesn't work well for cold
wvo at all as todd mentioned. It just doesn't have much suction.
mark
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No. It's an in house pump for moving fluids around in a small (250 -500
gpd) processing situation.
Best method I've seen yet for collecting oil is a vacuum pump similar to
what you'll find on septic service trucks.
http://www.aquadevice.com/english/03pump_universal.htm
Trash pumps work on warm
Todd,
Holy smokes did I find some killer tanks today.
These things are completely enclosed stainless steel rectangular tanks.
They have to be at least 600 gallons. Totally suited for methanol
reclamaition - there is a hatch on top and a few fittings.
Easily modifiable to add heat -
Sounds like it will be really neat. Here in San Diego I've always thought that
it would be great to see some PV implemented on much of the tribes' land, but
perhaps more of this is happening than I'm aware. It's my perception that many
of the tribes, as a whole, are making some money from the
http://www.aquaticeco.com/aquatic1v1/itempg.icl?orderidentifier=ID1039405208
50253023Deflag=0iteminfo4=0itmid=9217p
Mini pH Checker
Inexpensive yet accurate, this small pH pen supplies fast and accurate
readings. Microprocessor-based, it is great for both fresh and saltwater
aquariums and
Mark,
A pot still is okay, but not as efficient as a thin film evaporator.
Taking something like your box tanks and placing several old stainless H20
fire extinguishers inside would work well.
Run an inlet for hot H20 into each fire extinquisher and a return outlet,
hook up a hot water
MH wrote:
Thank you for the link!!
No problem! I find it really interesting that I read the same Bible, pray
to the same Jesus and worship faithfully, yet I do not find the
same justification for violence in the scriptures that was expressed by fellow
believers in that news story.
where? i was in 3AD
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From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 27, 2003 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] SUV question - Silk Purses out of Sows Ears
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From: Hakan Falk
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