Re: [biofuel] Tanker Carrying 3.5 Million Gallons of Ethanol Sinks

2004-03-02 Thread Levon Barker
On Mon, 2004-03-01 at 14:05, murdoch wrote: When the Valdez and other Oil Spills have occurred, I had to wonder why they couldn't burn much of the Oil off the surface, even if they had to temporarily evacuate some towns because of smoke. In this case, also, I wonder if they could have burned

Re: [biofuel] Energy bill - was Re: U.S. Won't 'Beg OPEC,' Focus on Technology -Abraham

2004-03-02 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 01:47:40 +0900, you wrote: Hi MM My vote is for no energy bill, if my only choice is one that he and his team have sanctioned, as I understand the ones they have put forward. Then this might be relevant - from MoveOn.org, via another list, aimed at Washington, but I guess

[biofuel] BD in PA

2004-03-02 Thread david
x-charset ISO-8859-1I'm starting a new contract in PA (north of Phila.) and would be interested in seeing a BD operation in progress. is anyone in the area? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson,

[biofuel] explosion proof motors

2004-03-02 Thread j_schearer
x-charset ISO-8859-1My question for members is concerning the motor for the mixing tank. I managed to find an older oil furnace motor and got it working again. A friend of mine gave me a stainless spinner shaft for it and it seems like it will work well. I have not tried it yet though.

Re: [biofuel] explosion proof motors

2004-03-02 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1Short of explosion proof, there are TEFC (totally enclosed, fan cooled) motors. - Original Message - From: j_schearer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: [biofuel] explosion proof motors My question for

Re: [biofuel] BD in PA

2004-03-02 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1A new contract in what? - Original Message - From: david [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:04 PM Subject: [biofuel] BD in PA I'm starting a new contract in PA (north of Phila.) and would be interested in seeing a BD

Re: [biofuel] correction Re: Griffin Industries Biodiesel

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
skillshare wrote: It was not Griffin that had the bad batch, it as another supplier (Imperian Western Products). Griffin fuel was fine as far as meeting specifications, it happens to also have a high gel point. Gel point is not on the ASTM specs as a pass-fail number. the gel point

Re: [biofuel] Griffin Industries Biodiesel

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
Appal Energy wrote: Allan, Take a fuel sample, match it with equal parts water and agitate vigorously. I've seen your symptoms before when running fuel laden with incompletely converted glycerides. They are hydrophylic and would suck up any water in the bottom of the tank. Could that

Re: [biofuel] Griffin Industries Biodiesel

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
Dave Williams wrote: Alan Petrillo wrote: One of my trucks is sick, possibly fuel related, and both of them blow big white clouds on startup, and have experienced hard starting since I got my last batch of B100. Those are typical symptoms of a blown head gasket. Yes, but those are

Re: [biofuel] Re: Griffin Industries Biodiesel

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
skillshare wrote: Griffin's fuel is unusable as B100 in most climates in the winter, at least the samples of it that I've seen so far. It forms crystals at 45F, which are big enough to block onboard fuel filters. Even in the San Francisco Bay Area, a very mild climate, it's too gel-prone

Re: [biofuel] floating draw-off

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have built several floating draw offs, and I'm not sure which is best. For the float, one can use polyethylene foam, not styrofoam!, or a sealed air container, such as a PVC pipe with capped ends. Use a good weight on the float to keep it immersed in the

Re: [biofuel] floating draw-off

2004-03-02 Thread Pieter Koole
x-charset ISO-8859-1I use a lump of wood and it works pretty well. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole Netherlands The information contained in this message (including attachments) is confidential, and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please

Re: [biofuel] A question about lignine

2004-03-02 Thread Keith Addison
Dag Pieter Great ! Thanks a lot. You say it is all organic material. Doesn't the sulfuric acid do any harm, or is that all used by breaking down the cellulose ? It seems so, from what Fred said, but at any rate, even if not, it will certainly be broken down safely in a properly made hot

Re: [biofuel] List Trailer Question

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it against the law to TRIM THE TRAILERS off of messages posted to this list, or is it important to have 5 trailers on each message? They appear to be a waste of bandwidth and email box space. Hear, hear! (trailers trimmed!} AP Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-03-02 Thread Alan Petrillo
Walt Patrick wrote: I think you're falling into your own trap of seeing things according to a partisan agenda, but in a different, much broader, and much more important sense, that goes much further than the national concerns of some among the minority American contingent here. Us and

Re: [biofuel] Griffin Industries Biodiesel

2004-03-02 Thread Appal Energy
x-charset ISO-8859-1 Could that be like the monoglycerides I've seen some people on the list have trouble with? Could very well be. They materialize as an emulsion in the presence of water, the intensity of which is dependant upon their degree of presence. Dark brown fuel the color of maple

[biofuel] Solar Power via the Moon

2004-03-02 Thread Michael Redler
x-charset ISO-8859-1Has anyone seen this? I don't know if this is possible but it sounds like a pretty wild idea. http://www.aip.org/tip/INPHFA/vol-8/iss-2/p12.pdf Mike Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives:

Re: [biofuel] Weapons of Mass Deception

2004-03-02 Thread Walt Patrick
At 08:07 AM 3/2/04 -0500, Alan wrote: Walt Patrick wrote: I think you're falling into your own trap of seeing things according to a partisan agenda, but in a different, much broader, and much more important sense, that goes much further than the national concerns of some among the

[biofuel] San Francisco area- used homebrew reactors for sale

2004-03-02 Thread girl mark
I was planning on dismantling two of my old reactors and wash tanks because I am now using bigger equipment, but I thought I'd offer them for sale first before scrapping (and reusing) the parts. They're built from an upside down barrel, with a heating element, drain and separate dip tube

Re: [biofuel] Venezuela threat to cut US oil

2004-03-02 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, It is not the first time or the only source, that claims US to be behind the failed attempt in Venezuela. It was probably designed to secure deliveries of oil in the run up to the Iraqi invasion. Chavez survived it only because some leading generals did not play ball with US and

Re: [biofuel] Depletion of Oil and Natural Gas

2004-03-02 Thread Hakan Falk
MM, I think that the EVs and hybrids based on biodiesel, are much better and viable alternatives to any hydrogen vehicle. Anyway, if you drove hydrogen vehicle, it cannot be many kilometers or miles. Did they tell you the cost of the tank, I heard that it was around $20,000 with a range of

Re: [biofuel] Depletion of Oil and Natural Gas

2004-03-02 Thread alex
Hakan Falk wrote: MM, I think that the EVs and hybrids based on biodiesel, are much better and viable alternatives to any hydrogen vehicle. Especially if diesel can work on DIY mustard/canola oil! Alex Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink

[biofuel] Venezuela threat to cut US oil

2004-03-02 Thread murdoch
What's a little chilling is the possibility that we in the U.S. quite possibly could have contemplated or committed some of these pressure tactics of which the Venezuelan head of state complains, and which we presently deny. If only we in the U.S. could spend just as much effort, as we do on

Re: [biofuel] Depletion of Oil and Natural Gas

2004-03-02 Thread murdoch
Overall, I tend to agree with your thesis on your page, that damage is already done. On the issue of Oil Depletion, I've heard some conflicting accounts. But even in the unlikely event that the world were *still* awash in Oil, I do believe that we Americans could and will solve that problem by