[biofuel] Re: gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread brainchild0069
x-charset ISO-8859-1Kieth, The stuff you wrote about alcohol makes alot of sense.Thanks Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to

Re: [biofuel] gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread robert luis rabello
murdoch wrote: That is interesting to learn about NASCAR, but my question is what are they using now, not how did they get started. I understand. My knowledge is incomplete, but nearly all the track auto racing venues I'm aware of use methanol as a fuel. Further, it's easier to find

Re: [biofuel] gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Robert, Thanks for your education, learned a lot from it and it is described in a very easy way. Very good job! Hakan At 01:32 08/03/2004, you wrote: murdoch wrote: That is interesting to learn about NASCAR, but my question is what are they using now, not how did they get started.

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread Party of Citizens
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, murdoch wrote: http://www.nature.com/nsu/040301/040301-15.html They're pretty much what you'd think, from the name. Just saw an ABC news presentation on this contest and the vehicles. By 2015 apparently the Pentagon has said that 1/3 of military vehicles must drive

[biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
http://www.nature.com/nsu/040301/040301-15.html They're pretty much what you'd think, from the name. Just saw an ABC news presentation on this contest and the vehicles. By 2015 apparently the Pentagon has said that 1/3 of military vehicles must drive themselves, or some such. We're spending $1

[biofuel] idea

2004-03-08 Thread brainchild0069
x-charset ISO-8859-1I have an idea.You guys(and gals) tell me what you think... Have a Diesel engine (fueled by biodiesel,of course)with an a/c compressor (for air conditioning)mounted on it running a generator, have the coolant piped into the house for area heating,or through a heat

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 17:17:11 -0800 (PST), you wrote: On Sun, 7 Mar 2004, murdoch wrote: http://www.nature.com/nsu/040301/040301-15.html They're pretty much what you'd think, from the name. Just saw an ABC news presentation on this contest and the vehicles. By 2015 apparently the Pentagon

[biofuel] Racing And Fuel

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
That is interesting to learn about NASCAR, but my question is what are they using now, not how did they get started. I understand. My knowledge is incomplete, but nearly all the track auto racing venues I'm aware of use methanol as a fuel. Further, it's easier to find aftermarket racing

Re: [biofuel] gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread robert luis rabello
A correction is in order: I just spent an hour or so visiting with my pastor, and as we were watching a videotape of a stock car race, I asked him what fuel NASCAR uses. (He owned a circle track car before he went into the ministry, so we can do some serious gearhead talk together!) He

[biofuel] Bush's world and news sources

2004-03-08 Thread tallex2002
x-charset ISO-8859-1news sources In Bush's world, human wants and needs trump Mother Nature and environmental protections http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=1271 India News: And now, electricity from bamboo keralanext.com keralanext.com March 7 2004

Re: [biofuel] Bush's world and news sources

2004-03-08 Thread jkolling
I'm sure he won't mind many people being killed then either, because that compliments his logic, ultimately. By time, one would expect all views to be broadened, not tightened. :) news sources In Bush's world, human wants and needs trump Mother Nature and environmental protections

[biofuel] Team Ethanol?

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/8069980.htm Paul Dana was mentioned on the evworld.com page and elsewhere. I don't think they're running ethanol... I don't know what the name of the team means. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM http://www.nature.com/nsu/040301/040301-15.html They're pretty much what you'd think, from the name. Just saw an ABC news presentation on this contest and the vehicles. By 2015 apparently the Pentagon has said that 1/3 of military vehicles must drive themselves, or some such. We're

[biofuel] jatropha curcas

2004-03-08 Thread Theo Taylor
x-charset ISO-8859-1We are interested in planting jatropha curcas for producing our own biodiesel and have found quite a bit of information on the net but a lot of it is conflicting. So we have a lot of questions that we need answering and would appreciate any help in this regard. We are also

[biofuel] Re: gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread spriggsbororon
x-charset ISO-8859-1--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What state? Did you say? Good ole Minnesota. Between Minnesota and Iowa, there is a lot of ethanol produced. The first ethanol plant I saw (and smelled) from a highway was in

Re: [biofuel] Robot Vehicles

2004-03-08 Thread Party of Citizens
Right you are, Mongo. What is Ralph Nader's slogan? Unsafe at any speed? Yes we cling to our personal autos like well like Mongo would cling to his horse in the wild west days. But imagine a city in which personal autos are left in parkades at the perimeter. You can still use them for

[biofuel] Nitromethane fuel question

2004-03-08 Thread spriggsbororon
x-charset ISO-8859-1Back in the 1960's, I attended a few drag races (1/4 mile event) at the drag strip. The fuelers used 'nitro'. When I would get a pit pass and walk by the rails and funny cars, the odor would clean out my nostrils (Whew!). When I asked various non-racing people afterwards

Re: [biofuel] idea

2004-03-08 Thread bob allen
http://www.coastintelligen.com/default.asp brainchild0069 wrote: I have an idea.You guys(and gals) tell me what you think... Have a Diesel engine (fueled by biodiesel,of course)with an a/c compressor (for air conditioning)mounted on it running a generator, have the coolant piped into

[biofuel] Fuel Cells And Hydrogen vs. Hybrids And Biofuels, article by David Morris of ILSR.ORG

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
http://www.evworld.com/view.cfm?section=articlestoryid=647 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to:

Re: [biofuel] first batch of ethyl ester

2004-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
(Hey Ken - dunno where to start? Neither do I! Neither did he, IMO...) Hello Leif I an acquaintance of mine is making ethyl esters in Congo and failed on his first attempt. Sorry to be discouraging, but it seems he's not making it, and I don't think he ever will, not that way - he's started

Re: [biofuel] jatropha curcas

2004-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
x-charset ISO-8859-1Hello Theo We are interested in planting jatropha curcas for producing our own biodiesel and have found quite a bit of information on the net but a lot of it is conflicting. So we have a lot of questions that we need answering and would appreciate any help in this regard.

RE: [biofuel] idea

2004-03-08 Thread Randal Son
“In this way, if your engine and generator are big enough, you could comfortably live completely off the grid. “ This idea needs to have the numbers run to see if the waste heat is sufficient. That of course depends on the thermal efficiency and square footage of the living space. Also run

[biofuel] Robert Perry: Nox Reduction by Cyanuric Acid

2004-03-08 Thread kirkmcloren
x-charset ISO-8859-1Robert Perry: Nox Reduction by Cyanuric Acid -- -- C. Petit: San Francisco Chronicle (Dec 18, 1986); Smog-Fighting Process Discovered R. Perry: US Patent # 4,731,231; NO reduction using

[biofuel] Pimentel

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
Spin and media manipulation are integral to the current energy mess and the fact that biofuels don't get a fair deal. At the Biodiesel list last week someone was declaiming with great confidence that ethanol consumes more energy than it produces, and citing, of course, the much-debunked David

Re: [biofuel] Re: gasoline

2004-03-08 Thread murdoch
Thanks. I particularly like getting these first-handed accounts. Me, I used to live in Califronia. Now I live in AZ. Tie-ing this in with the racing fuel discussion, with this handy list you provide of ethanol plants, it would be nice if a racing series would take a look at it, and, if some