Re: [Biofuel] ethanol from Sorgum please

2005-08-01 Thread mustafa majid
Sweet Sorghum is the way to go for a lot of reasons. I am trying to get the responsce from different varities (old and new) with the aim of max. stalk yield. We believe we could use the existing sugar mill / distillery structure to process the sorghum stalks. We also believe new varities being

[Biofuel] veriety of jatropha

2005-08-01 Thread Shailesh kumar
dear sir, i would like to know more about the veriey of Jatropha curcus , which is best in oil content and best in production. which organisation is working in this regards. thanks shailesh Shailesh kumarPansuriya Plot No.77,Astron Society, Amin Marg,RAJKOT 360001 INDIA Tele-fax:+91

Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen energy efficiencies

2005-08-01 Thread Andrew Lowe
Michael wrote: This press release below produced the AP story that follows it. July 5, 2005 Cornell ecologist's study finds that producing ethanol and biodiesel from corn and other crops is not worth the energy By Susan S. Lang Chris Hallman/University Photography Ecologist

Re: [Biofuel] Attachments re: ethanol from Sorghum

2005-08-01 Thread Mark Klein
Sorry MARK KLEIN - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 8:40 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Attachments re: ethanol from Sorghum on 7/30/05 7:03 PM, Mark Klein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: some text that

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Michael Redler
In poor taste? Maybe. I liked it anyway just because it's different from what I'm used to hearing. Mean spirited? Doubtful. Listen to Rush if you want to hear mean spirited and poor taste. "God must love you better." and "In God we Trust" This must beconfusing to some atheists. Pagans just

Re: [Biofuel] The rise of Corporate Power and the disabling of democracy

2005-08-01 Thread Pannirselvam P.V
Helo Keith The present political crises and corruption in recent turbulence in Brazil is certainly due to the lobby , the big buisness , The Corporate banking system where rich is becoming richer , the poor much poor trying to disable the democracy and sustainable developements .The

Re[2]: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Whomever, Sunday, 31 July, 2005, 18:03:48, you wrote: Wwrc In poor taste. Maybe even mean spirited. God must Love you better than Wwrc us RED NECKS. Oh, that's right, you don't believe In GOD We Trust. In poor taste. Maybe even mean spirited.? I assume that you have NEVER listened

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread des
Thank you! That was the first message in this thread I found worth saving for future reference. Too much out there, (government, business and religion) has propagated the illusion of separation, competition and isolation... We could easily forget that we do all come from the same Source,

RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread malcolm maclure
Lol, n1 Mike J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Redler Sent: 01 August 2005 13:30 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country In poor taste? Maybe. I liked it anyway just because

[Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-01 Thread Probst, Peter
Greetings, I'm collecting the various tools to perform a titration of WVO and see there are several types of phenolphthalein solutions available. Is there a certain solution that works better than others? Should I get the most economical? Thanks in advance for your help, Pete Some options for

[Biofuel] problems with wash

2005-08-01 Thread Thomas Kelly
Help me please my story is a long one. My 1st attempt at making biodieselwas a 2 L. test batch using virgin corn oil. Shake test came out OK; bubble washed -produced clear golden biodiesel. Repeat using 2L fryer oil honey amber biodiesel. I then did two separate 15 L

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Brian Rodgers
Yes yes yes I agree as well, this message I missed because I read a few other messages in this thread and was not encouraged, this one is better. Positive and spiritual. Thank you Brian Rodgers ___ Biofuel mailing list

[Biofuel] ethanol from wood please compliment

2005-08-01 Thread Brian Rodgers
Hi Brian, You are fortunate to have walking encyclopedia in your dad. Nurture him well. Thank you too Manick. Yes, my Dad stills gets around on the ranch. We are grateful that his health is holding and truth is I am kind of hoping that I look that good when and if I live to be 87 years

Re: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread WCOTE
OK, is this all just wry humor or sarcasm? Otherwise, I do detect arrogance, condescension, religious and political pride (a negative). This written language is so poor in expressing true intent, especially if the writer is masking or hiding true feeling behind clever language. Let us try to

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Nancy Canning
I agree with you Gustl. Yet, I am amazed and the quanity of people who will uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. That the Child is of no value and has no right to life. - Original Message - From: des

Re: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Diesel Bill OK, is this all just wry humor or sarcasm? Otherwise, I do detect arrogance, condescension, religious and political pride (a negative). In the eye of the beholder perhaps. What do other beholders see in you, do you think? This written language is so poor in expressing

Re: RE: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Michael Redler
Bill, There are seemingly countless ways to express ones opinion and depending on the discussion, wry humor can work very well. However, I was sincere when I said that I enjoyed the change of pace from the liberal bashing I'm so used to. I was also sincere about my advice to listen to Rush if

Re: [Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-01 Thread des
Probst, Peter wrote: Greetings, I'm collecting the various tools to perform a titration of WVO and see there are several types of phenolphthalein solutions available. Is there a certain solution that works better than others? Should I get the most economical? Thanks in advance for your help,

Re[2]: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Nancy, I can't disagree. Murder, war, abortion, capital punishment are all on the same level with different types of justifications for each depending on situation, etc. But then, as I have said, only that which is wrong requires justification. What is true and right stands

RE: [Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-01 Thread Thompson, Mark L. (PNB RD)
Hi all I got 16oz of 1% (95% Isopropyl) for $16 here in California. This is probability 100X more than I could ever use. I would happy give 1/2 it to Needy people if they can cover the cost of shipping and bottling. I don't know if I can mail Isopropyl through the US postal system. Does

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Brian Rodgers
uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. I would have to say "I disagree!" the Netiqutte rules govern my language. There is a massive over population problem on this planet and it is not the snails. Nuff said?

Re: [Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-01 Thread Thomas Kelly
Those prices for phenolphthalein are high. 500ml 1% in 70% Alcohol @ $69.24!!! Try Science Kit (www.sciencekit.com) 500ml 1% phenolphthalein in alcohol $5.70 Item # 95115-06 Flinn Scientific (www.flinnsci.com) 500ml 1% phenophthalein in alcohol $5.80 Item # P0020 I am not associated with

[Biofuel] Keegan vs. von Clausewitz: war is not a worthwhile instrument of national policy

2005-08-01 Thread Michael Redler
I live in New Haven and although I'm not a student there, I sometimes can get access to presentations at Yale through a friend of a friend. In 2002, I went to a teach-in where a panel of Yale professors fielded questions about the war.One of the panelists was John Keegan, a well known

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread bob allen
Nancy Canning wrote: I agree with you Gustl. Yet, I am amazed and the quanity of people who will uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. That the Child is of no value and has no right to life. If by this

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Appal Energy
OK, is this all just wry humor or sarcasm? Alrighty then Diesel Bill, Take a lot of this with a grain of salt..., the same way many who read your intial remark took yours. I do detect arrogance, condescension, religious and political pride (a negative). Uhh. Ain't that akin to the

[Biofuel] more encouraging solar news

2005-08-01 Thread capt3d
Cost Competitive Electricity from Photovoltaic Concentrators Called 'Imminent' Wednesday, July 13, 2005 Golden, Colo. ? Solar concentrators using highly efficient photovoltaic solar cells will reduce the cost of electricity from sunlight to competitive levels soon, attendees were told at a

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
But a snail trumps a person? Too simply I think. -Kbob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nancy Canning wrote: I agree with you Gustl. Yet, I am amazed and the quanity of people who will uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread capt3d
how the heck did we get around to thetopic of killing babies?who's 'killing babies'? are you suggesting that environmentalists = baby killers? you really don't want to go there, nancy. you're just wasting your time. -chris b.-Original Message-From: Nancy Canning [EMAIL PROTECTED]To:

[Biofuel] Union of Concerned Scientists

2005-08-01 Thread Kirk McLoren
There is concern on the part of The Union of Concerned Scientists that US automakers are going to frustrate the introduction of the hybrids. If you want to send letters they are automated. -Kirk http://ucsaction.org/ucsaction/join.html?r=-7LfrYM1FzemE Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
I had to jump in here! rantO n0, not an abortion debate. Women have every right to full control over their own bodys and should have complete feedom of choice. Another example of the difference between red and blue states?? Dictating christian moral beliefs as if they were gospel and trying

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread RobertCVA
In a message dated 8/1/2005 1:45:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "I am amazed and the quanity of people who will uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. That the Child is of

[Biofuel] formula for a 55 gallon

2005-08-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how much ethanol to used for a 35gallon wvo. and how much lye. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Keith Addison
uphold and fight for some snails life, being of great importance and right to live, yet believe it is okay to kill babies. I would have to say I disagree! the Netiqutte rules govern my language. There is a massive over population problem on this planet and it is not the snails. Nuff said?

Re: [Biofuel] formula for a 55 gallon

2005-08-01 Thread Keith Addison
how much ethanol to used for a 35gallon wvo. and how much lye. Don't do it! Making ethanol biodiesel is not for novices, see: Ethyl esters -- making ethanol biodiesel http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#ethylester Anyway, you should ALWAYS make small test batches (1 litre) when

Jesus was a liberal..., and look what it got him... was Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread Appal Energy
You twist the argument Nancy, and intentionally barb it with a misconstruction of what others actually believe. I wonder what a reader is expected to construe from such an act? In the first place, there are enormous herds of people who believe in the right to life for all life. (In case you

Re: [Biofuel] Union of Concerned Scientists

2005-08-01 Thread Appal Energy
There is concern on the part of The Union of Concerned Scientists that US automakers are going to frustrate the introduction of the hybrids. Worry not Kirk. It's a plausible reality. Detroit is going to work itself (and hundreds of thousands of the cogs in its wheels) out of a job over the